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"basskisser" wrote in message om... snip Yes, YOU would be a better person. Anyone with reasoning skills would know that in the above statement, "wind flow" would mean????? Yes!!! WIND!!! This is from a science website: As the Earth rotates on its axis, gravity forces this relatively "heavy" air near the Earth's surface to spin round with it. However, the air higher up is less affected. The difference between the speed at which air moves close to the surface and the speed of air higher up forms vortexes or whirlpools. This mixing causes variations in air speed, and, consequently, "wind" is generated at the earth's surface Basskisser, I hate to disagree because I like your political bent, but in this case you are absolutely wrong. All wind energy comes from solar heating. End of story. Here are a few links to support this claim (I picked easy links to start you out): http://infoweb.newsbank.com/elementa...bj031598_2.htm http://www.nationalgeographic.com/me...cts/amaz6.html http://www.escambia.k12.fl.us/schscn...indenergy.html http://www.wintecenergy.com/wind_power.html http://www.evsc.virginia.edu/~evscta...atmcomp_03.pdf Real scientists (you know, with the white lab coats and thick glasses) use real science to figure this stuff out. You can get some ideas about how the do this by looking at this link. http://www.spacer.com/news/quikscat-00a.html Wind blowing and the earths rotation in a nutshell: http://starfire.ne.uiuc.edu/ne201/co.../wind/why.html Mark Browne |
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"Mark Browne" wrote in message news:JIIQb.117267$nt4.483016@attbi_s51...
"basskisser" wrote in message om... snip Yes, YOU would be a better person. Anyone with reasoning skills would know that in the above statement, "wind flow" would mean????? Yes!!! WIND!!! This is from a science website: As the Earth rotates on its axis, gravity forces this relatively "heavy" air near the Earth's surface to spin round with it. However, the air higher up is less affected. The difference between the speed at which air moves close to the surface and the speed of air higher up forms vortexes or whirlpools. This mixing causes variations in air speed, and, consequently, "wind" is generated at the earth's surface Basskisser, I hate to disagree because I like your political bent, but in this case you are absolutely wrong. All wind energy comes from solar heating. End of story. Here are a few links to support this claim (I picked easy links to start you out): http://infoweb.newsbank.com/elementa...bj031598_2.htm http://www.nationalgeographic.com/me...cts/amaz6.html http://www.escambia.k12.fl.us/schscn...indenergy.html http://www.wintecenergy.com/wind_power.html http://www.evsc.virginia.edu/~evscta...atmcomp_03.pdf Real scientists (you know, with the white lab coats and thick glasses) use real science to figure this stuff out. You can get some ideas about how the do this by looking at this link. http://www.spacer.com/news/quikscat-00a.html Wind blowing and the earths rotation in a nutshell: http://starfire.ne.uiuc.edu/ne201/co.../wind/why.html Mark Browne Mark, in a nutshell, SOME wind is produced by convection. But, how do you account for winds when convection has stopped, ie: surface temps. stabilize. In short, it's the Jetstream. Now, what does the jet stream at high altitudes have to do with it, you ask? NOAA has excellent publications answering just those questions. The short answer it a lot. |
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Mark, in a nutshell, SOME wind is produced by convection. But, how do you account for winds when convection has stopped, ie: surface temps. stabilize. When does this happen? In short, it's the Jetstream. Now, what does the jet stream at high altitudes have to do with it, you ask? NOAA has excellent publications answering just those questions. The short answer it a lot. I think you're persuing a semantic quibble. The Earth's rotation does not transfer any energy into the atmosphere, ie it does not cause wind. Period. Not even the jet streams. Now, the Earth's rotation does very much influence the direction of wind and the formation of weather systems which go even further to influence wind. If you want to rant and rave the "the Earth's rotation causes wind" then have at it, but you're hanging off the edge of a cliff here. Maybe next we can debate what the meaning of "is" is.... go ahead without me. DSK |
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"basskisser" wrote in message om... snip Mark, in a nutshell, SOME wind is produced by convection. But, how do you account for winds when convection has stopped, ie: surface temps. stabilize. In short, it's the Jetstream. Now, what does the jet stream at high altitudes have to do with it, you ask? NOAA has excellent publications answering just those questions. The short answer it a lot. The sun constantly blasts the earth with a kilowatt per square meter. Even If we can't see it on an overcast day, it's up there. This drives the massive convection circuit we call the jet streams. This drives a massive conveyer belt of warm from the warm equator to the cold poles. Convection never stops. There may be local (for us) pools of still air. This does not change the fact that a river of air flow by far overhead. The seeming random local weather can be thought of in much the same way as random bubbles of movement in a boiling pot - just a lot bigger and slower. The moving air is shaped by the Coriolis effect to form rotating pools of air. From our prospective the air seems relatively still. If you discount very small special cases (turbulence around a volcano) all air movement ultimately derives from solar heating. What's that - you ask about hurricanes? Solar heating of the water causing rising moist air! The Coriolis effect shapes this into cyclonic circulation. Mark Browne |
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On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:25:53 -0500, DSK wrote:
basskisser wrote: Mark, in a nutshell, SOME wind is produced by convection. But, how do you account for winds when convection has stopped, ie: surface temps. stabilize. When does this happen? Silly you, it happens when the equator is the same temperature as the poles. Everyone knows that. Steve |
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"Mark Browne" wrote in message news:5v9Rb.119393$Rc4.934399@attbi_s54...
"basskisser" wrote in message om... snip Mark, in a nutshell, SOME wind is produced by convection. But, how do you account for winds when convection has stopped, ie: surface temps. stabilize. In short, it's the Jetstream. Now, what does the jet stream at high altitudes have to do with it, you ask? NOAA has excellent publications answering just those questions. The short answer it a lot. The sun constantly blasts the earth with a kilowatt per square meter. Even If we can't see it on an overcast day, it's up there. This drives the massive convection circuit we call the jet streams. This drives a massive conveyer belt of warm from the warm equator to the cold poles. Convection never stops. There may be local (for us) pools of still air. This does not change the fact that a river of air flow by far overhead. The seeming random local weather can be thought of in much the same way as random bubbles of movement in a boiling pot - just a lot bigger and slower. The moving air is shaped by the Coriolis effect to form rotating pools of air. From our prospective the air seems relatively still. If you discount very small special cases (turbulence around a volcano) all air movement ultimately derives from solar heating. What's that - you ask about hurricanes? Solar heating of the water causing rising moist air! The Coriolis effect shapes this into cyclonic circulation. Mark Browne Mark, again, there are many, many NOAA publications available on the web, and in print, that explains weather patterns, winds, etc. much more clearly than I ever could here. Good reading. |
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(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ...
On 27 Jan 2004 04:35:37 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:25:53 -0500, DSK wrote: basskisser wrote: Mark, in a nutshell, SOME wind is produced by convection. But, how do you account for winds when convection has stopped, ie: surface temps. stabilize. When does this happen? Silly you, it happens when the equator is the same temperature as the poles. Everyone knows that. Are you really that stupid, or trying to be? Thanks for noticing. It's actually pretty tough trying to be as stupid as you. "convection has stopped", "surface temps stabilize" .... LOL Steve You are one of the dumbest, thick headed people on this planet. You can't POSSIBLY know as much as you think you do, you are too much of a narrow minded fool. |
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On 28 Jan 2004 04:25:13 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:
(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On 27 Jan 2004 04:35:37 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:25:53 -0500, DSK wrote: basskisser wrote: Mark, in a nutshell, SOME wind is produced by convection. But, how do you account for winds when convection has stopped, ie: surface temps. stabilize. When does this happen? Silly you, it happens when the equator is the same temperature as the poles. Everyone knows that. Are you really that stupid, or trying to be? Thanks for noticing. It's actually pretty tough trying to be as stupid as you. "convection has stopped", "surface temps stabilize" .... LOL You are one of the dumbest, thick headed people on this planet. You can't POSSIBLY know as much as you think you do, you are too much of a narrow minded fool. Wow, how can I possibly top the stupidity of that post? Ok, I know it may not be the brightest thing to do, but I'll ask you to defend your post at the top of this one. Since you didn't like my response to Doug, why don't you tell us just when, on Earth, does convection stop and the surface temp. stabilize? Steve |
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I just stumbled onto this thread.
What's a yatch? (let alone a hybrid yatch) -W (thinking of a Yugoslavian hermaphrodite hooker) |
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basskisser wrote: You are one of the dumbest, thick headed people on this planet. You can't POSSIBLY know as much as you think you do, you are too much of a narrow minded fool. This is the image I have in my head of this basskisser dude: http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame63.html -- Charlie ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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"Clams Canino" wrote in message news:O4PRb.170068$I06.1695705@attbi_s01... I just stumbled onto this thread. What's a yatch? (let alone a hybrid yatch) -W (thinking of a Yugoslavian hermaphrodite hooker) |
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"Clams Canino" wrote...
I just stumbled onto this thread. I've been trying to stumble out of it but will try to answer a polite question What's a yatch? (let alone a hybrid yatch) Originally the discussion was about some 'alternative' form of power that would not pollute quite so much as internal combustion. Some wit suggested sails, which started the, umm, 'discussion' about what causes wind. -W (thinking of a Yugoslavian hermaphrodite hooker) That's pretty dadgum 'alternative' alright. DSK |
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Charles wrote in message ...
basskisser wrote: You are one of the dumbest, thick headed people on this planet. You can't POSSIBLY know as much as you think you do, you are too much of a narrow minded fool. This is the image I have in my head of this basskisser dude: http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame63.html The image I have of YOU is a bumbling idiot, and it is right on the money! |
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(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ...
On 28 Jan 2004 04:25:13 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On 27 Jan 2004 04:35:37 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:25:53 -0500, DSK wrote: basskisser wrote: Mark, in a nutshell, SOME wind is produced by convection. But, how do you account for winds when convection has stopped, ie: surface temps. stabilize. When does this happen? Silly you, it happens when the equator is the same temperature as the poles. Everyone knows that. Are you really that stupid, or trying to be? Thanks for noticing. It's actually pretty tough trying to be as stupid as you. "convection has stopped", "surface temps stabilize" .... LOL You are one of the dumbest, thick headed people on this planet. You can't POSSIBLY know as much as you think you do, you are too much of a narrow minded fool. Wow, how can I possibly top the stupidity of that post? Ok, I know it may not be the brightest thing to do, but I'll ask you to defend your post at the top of this one. Since you didn't like my response to Doug, why don't you tell us just when, on Earth, does convection stop and the surface temp. stabilize? Steve It's called equalization. Now, go have a look at NOAA publications. They are well written, and will explain to even closed minded folk just how wind works. But, let me guess.....you think you know more than any NOAA scientist, right? |
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basskisser wrote: Charles wrote in message ... basskisser wrote: You are one of the dumbest, thick headed people on this planet. You can't POSSIBLY know as much as you think you do, you are too much of a narrow minded fool. This is the image I have in my head of this basskisser dude: http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame63.html The image I have of YOU is a bumbling idiot, and it is right on the money! Well then, at least I have an excuse. -- Charlie ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Wow, how can I possibly top the stupidity of that post? Ok, I know it may not be the brightest thing to do, but I'll ask you to defend your post at the top of this one. Since you didn't like my response to Doug, why don't you tell us just when, on Earth, does convection stop and the surface temp. stabilize? Steve It's called equalization. Now, go have a look at NOAA publications. They are well written, and will explain to even closed minded folk just how wind works. But, let me guess.....you think you know more than any NOAA scientist, right? I just googled on equalization and NOAA. I saw lots on graphics algorithms, sound equalization, water courses flow and other minutia. Oddly, nothing pertaining to convention flows. Could you be so kind as to provide a link to this phenomena. Thanks in advance, Mark Browne |
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On 29 Jan 2004 09:23:40 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:
(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On 28 Jan 2004 04:25:13 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On 27 Jan 2004 04:35:37 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:25:53 -0500, DSK wrote: basskisser wrote: Mark, in a nutshell, SOME wind is produced by convection. But, how do you account for winds when convection has stopped, ie: surface temps. stabilize. When does this happen? Silly you, it happens when the equator is the same temperature as the poles. Everyone knows that. Are you really that stupid, or trying to be? Thanks for noticing. It's actually pretty tough trying to be as stupid as you. "convection has stopped", "surface temps stabilize" .... LOL You are one of the dumbest, thick headed people on this planet. You can't POSSIBLY know as much as you think you do, you are too much of a narrow minded fool. Wow, how can I possibly top the stupidity of that post? Ok, I know it may not be the brightest thing to do, but I'll ask you to defend your post at the top of this one. Since you didn't like my response to Doug, why don't you tell us just when, on Earth, does convection stop and the surface temp. stabilize? It's called equalization. Now, go have a look at NOAA publications. They are well written, and will explain to even closed minded folk just how wind works. But, let me guess.....you think you know more than any NOAA scientist, right? If you have a cite, please provide it. Even if it's not on the web. I'd love to see a NOAA scientist explain when, on earth, convection stops. Steve |
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"Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message ... On 29 Jan 2004 09:23:40 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On 28 Jan 2004 04:25:13 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On 27 Jan 2004 04:35:37 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:25:53 -0500, DSK wrote: basskisser wrote: Mark, in a nutshell, SOME wind is produced by convection. But, how do you account for winds when convection has stopped, ie: surface temps. stabilize. When does this happen? Silly you, it happens when the equator is the same temperature as the poles. Everyone knows that. Are you really that stupid, or trying to be? Thanks for noticing. It's actually pretty tough trying to be as stupid as you. "convection has stopped", "surface temps stabilize" .... LOL You are one of the dumbest, thick headed people on this planet. You can't POSSIBLY know as much as you think you do, you are too much of a narrow minded fool. Wow, how can I possibly top the stupidity of that post? Ok, I know it may not be the brightest thing to do, but I'll ask you to defend your post at the top of this one. Since you didn't like my response to Doug, why don't you tell us just when, on Earth, does convection stop and the surface temp. stabilize? It's called equalization. Now, go have a look at NOAA publications. They are well written, and will explain to even closed minded folk just how wind works. But, let me guess.....you think you know more than any NOAA scientist, right? If you have a cite, please provide it. Even if it's not on the web. I'd love to see a NOAA scientist explain when, on earth, convection stops. Steve Put down your coffee. I do not want to have to pay for your keyboard. "When Hell Freezes over" is when convection stops. |
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On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 19:37:07 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message ... On 29 Jan 2004 09:23:40 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On 28 Jan 2004 04:25:13 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On 27 Jan 2004 04:35:37 -0800, (basskisser) wrote: (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ... On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:25:53 -0500, DSK wrote: basskisser wrote: Mark, in a nutshell, SOME wind is produced by convection. But, how do you account for winds when convection has stopped, ie: surface temps. stabilize. When does this happen? Silly you, it happens when the equator is the same temperature as the poles. Everyone knows that. Are you really that stupid, or trying to be? Thanks for noticing. It's actually pretty tough trying to be as stupid as you. "convection has stopped", "surface temps stabilize" .... LOL You are one of the dumbest, thick headed people on this planet. You can't POSSIBLY know as much as you think you do, you are too much of a narrow minded fool. Wow, how can I possibly top the stupidity of that post? Ok, I know it may not be the brightest thing to do, but I'll ask you to defend your post at the top of this one. Since you didn't like my response to Doug, why don't you tell us just when, on Earth, does convection stop and the surface temp. stabilize? It's called equalization. Now, go have a look at NOAA publications. They are well written, and will explain to even closed minded folk just how wind works. But, let me guess.....you think you know more than any NOAA scientist, right? If you have a cite, please provide it. Even if it's not on the web. I'd love to see a NOAA scientist explain when, on earth, convection stops. Put down your coffee. I do not want to have to pay for your keyboard. "When Hell Freezes over" is when convection stops. LOL. But you're not a NOAA scientist, are you? I want to see a NOAA scientist say "when hell freezes over." Steve |
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