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JON CARROLL
Jon Carroll

Thursday, February 10, 2005


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02/09/2005

JON CARROLL
02/08/2005







Let us consider the Rapture Index. This is a real thing prepared by
serious people. If it makes you laugh, you have not gotten the memo.
You probably have not read any of the 12 volumes of the "Left Behind"
series, the best-selling books in America today.

Those Left Behind are those who did not experience the Rapture, which
is an instant in time when all the truly holy people are taken directly
to heaven, leaving their clothes in small neat piles behind them. The
rest of the ungodly losers are left to deal with natural disasters and
wars and the armies of the Antichrist, after which they die in various
colorful ways while the ranks of the saved watch with compassion
tempered with an understandable sense of satisfaction.

The Rapture Index, as of this writing, stands at 153. Anything over 145
is labeled by the Rapture Actuaries as "Fasten your seat belts." In
other words: Repent for the End Is Near. You may see all this for
yourself at www.raptureready.com/rap2.html, should you think I'm making
it up.

The Rapture Index is based on 45 prophetic categories, things like
drought, plague, floods, liberalism, beast government and mark of the
beast. "Beast government" is apparently the European Union; the news
that the EU is looking for a new president is seen as a sign that the
end time is drawing nearer. The latest "mark of the beast" is a plan by
the Antichrist that will result in said mark being implanted in the
right hand or forehead of unbelievers. The relatively high number of
this indicator is explained thusly: "Wal-Mart is falling behind in its
plan to bar code all products with radio tags." There are some parts of
this belief system I have not yet grasped.

The Rapture is a good thing, and therefore floods, famine, drought and
all that are also good things because they portend the coming of end
times. Even liberalism is a good thing, because there need to be a lot
of Christ- deniers for the end times to come. (Among the prophesied
Christ-deniers: the pope. That part is pretty much played down in the
pamphlets.)

The end times begin when Russia (also known as the ancient nation of
Gog) and Iran join forces to attack Israel. Before this can happen,
however, the old temple must be rebuilt. Peace between Israel and the
Palestinians is necessary for that to happen, so the Rapture Index sees
the peace talks as a good sign. Not as a good as the tsunami, but
definitely positive.

I am not the first one to notice this. The environmental Web site
www.grist.org has been covering it; Bill Moyers also wrote a column
about it (preserved by truthout at www.truthout.org/docs_
2005/013105F.shtml). Alas, the quote attributed to James Watt, the
secretary of the interior under Ronald Reagan ("after the last tree is
felled, Christ will come back"), is not verifiable, although it's been
reported many times. Probably the liberal media again, taking time out
from promoting the homosexual agenda.

So read the Rapture Index. Consider its implications: One of George
Bush's core constituencies is actively praying for environmental
degradation. Its members are in fact praying for the end of the world,
because the end of the world is the beginning of the fun part of
salvation.

Let's look at the new budget through this lens, which is (I emphasize)
neither fanciful nor satirical. Money for clean water: down. Money for
the cleanup of old nuclear sites, including the massive job at the
Hanford (Wash.) Nuclear Reservation: way down. Number of Forest Service
and Bureau of Land Management acres open for logging: up. Amount of
territory in Alaska declared OK for oil drilling: way up.

You might even consider the impact of the Rapture on deficit financing.
Who cares how much debt we accrue? Christ will come and forgive it all.
Why not borrow against the future to pay for the present? The future is
gonna be a whole different deal. We're just placeholders for God's own
totalitarian state.

For us secular humanists, us gay-marrying, porn-reading, prayer-mocking
harbingers of doom, all this seems incredible. We are still in the
reality- based paradigm; we have not yet crossed over into the
faith-based paradigm. In the faith-based world, the apparent
inconsistencies within the Bush administration fade into nothingness.

Millennial Christians have somehow convinced themselves that the
founding fathers would have approved of all this because they were all
old-time Christians following that old-time religion. Because Rapture
theology was mostly cobbled together in the 19th century based on very
selective readings from parts of the New Testament, it is unlikely that
the founding fathers believed anything of the sort. Not important: Once
again, I'm indulging in reality-based thinking.

Like the prophet said: Fasten your seat belts.

Just for you Bassy:

http://tinyurl.com/27hth

JimH wrote:
Just for you Bassy:

http://tinyurl.com/27hth

Oh, so a God fearing right winger such as yourself thinks that the
prophecy of the Rapture is like the story of Chicken Little, huh?

"JimH" wrote in message
...
Just for you Bassy:

http://tinyurl.com/27hth


Asslicker has been into the cash crops again.

I wonder if he has stopped beating his wife?

P.Fritz wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
Just for you Bassy:

http://tinyurl.com/27hth


Asslicker has been into the cash crops again.

I wonder if he has stopped beating his wife?

Fritz, I see that you still don't have an adult mentality, and are
unable to post anything other than lies, innuendoes, and childish name
calling. Now, please, show the group ANY evidence of your above
allegations. Can you, or are you ignorant?
Where did this wife beating stuff come about? Are you so mentally
unstable that you are projecting again? One thing is for certain, I
HAVE a wife, and she's happy, do you?

On 10 Feb 2005 09:44:50 -0800, "basskisser" wrote:

JON CARROLL
Jon Carroll

Thursday, February 10, 2005


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JON CARROLL
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JON CARROLL
02/09/2005

JON CARROLL
02/08/2005







Let us consider the Rapture Index. This is a real thing prepared by
serious people. If it makes you laugh, you have not gotten the memo.
You probably have not read any of the 12 volumes of the "Left Behind"
series, the best-selling books in America today.

Those Left Behind are those who did not experience the Rapture, which
is an instant in time when all the truly holy people are taken directly
to heaven, leaving their clothes in small neat piles behind them. The
rest of the ungodly losers are left to deal with natural disasters and
wars and the armies of the Antichrist, after which they die in various
colorful ways while the ranks of the saved watch with compassion
tempered with an understandable sense of satisfaction.

The Rapture Index, as of this writing, stands at 153. Anything over 145
is labeled by the Rapture Actuaries as "Fasten your seat belts." In
other words: Repent for the End Is Near. You may see all this for
yourself at www.raptureready.com/rap2.html, should you think I'm making
it up.

The Rapture Index is based on 45 prophetic categories, things like
drought, plague, floods, liberalism, beast government and mark of the
beast. "Beast government" is apparently the European Union; the news
that the EU is looking for a new president is seen as a sign that the
end time is drawing nearer. The latest "mark of the beast" is a plan by
the Antichrist that will result in said mark being implanted in the
right hand or forehead of unbelievers. The relatively high number of
this indicator is explained thusly: "Wal-Mart is falling behind in its
plan to bar code all products with radio tags." There are some parts of
this belief system I have not yet grasped.

The Rapture is a good thing, and therefore floods, famine, drought and
all that are also good things because they portend the coming of end
times. Even liberalism is a good thing, because there need to be a lot
of Christ- deniers for the end times to come. (Among the prophesied
Christ-deniers: the pope. That part is pretty much played down in the
pamphlets.)

The end times begin when Russia (also known as the ancient nation of
Gog) and Iran join forces to attack Israel. Before this can happen,
however, the old temple must be rebuilt. Peace between Israel and the
Palestinians is necessary for that to happen, so the Rapture Index sees
the peace talks as a good sign. Not as a good as the tsunami, but
definitely positive.

I am not the first one to notice this. The environmental Web site
www.grist.org has been covering it; Bill Moyers also wrote a column
about it (preserved by truthout at www.truthout.org/docs_
2005/013105F.shtml). Alas, the quote attributed to James Watt, the
secretary of the interior under Ronald Reagan ("after the last tree is
felled, Christ will come back"), is not verifiable, although it's been
reported many times. Probably the liberal media again, taking time out
from promoting the homosexual agenda.

So read the Rapture Index. Consider its implications: One of George
Bush's core constituencies is actively praying for environmental
degradation. Its members are in fact praying for the end of the world,
because the end of the world is the beginning of the fun part of
salvation.

Let's look at the new budget through this lens, which is (I emphasize)
neither fanciful nor satirical. Money for clean water: down. Money for
the cleanup of old nuclear sites, including the massive job at the
Hanford (Wash.) Nuclear Reservation: way down. Number of Forest Service
and Bureau of Land Management acres open for logging: up. Amount of
territory in Alaska declared OK for oil drilling: way up.

You might even consider the impact of the Rapture on deficit financing.
Who cares how much debt we accrue? Christ will come and forgive it all.
Why not borrow against the future to pay for the present? The future is
gonna be a whole different deal. We're just placeholders for God's own
totalitarian state.

For us secular humanists, us gay-marrying, porn-reading, prayer-mocking
harbingers of doom, all this seems incredible. We are still in the
reality- based paradigm; we have not yet crossed over into the
faith-based paradigm. In the faith-based world, the apparent
inconsistencies within the Bush administration fade into nothingness.

Millennial Christians have somehow convinced themselves that the
founding fathers would have approved of all this because they were all
old-time Christians following that old-time religion. Because Rapture
theology was mostly cobbled together in the 19th century based on very
selective readings from parts of the New Testament, it is unlikely that
the founding fathers believed anything of the sort. Not important: Once
again, I'm indulging in reality-based thinking.

Like the prophet said: Fasten your seat belts.

I thought you were a "Dick and Jane" fan.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

On 10 Feb 2005 12:46:41 -0800, "basskisser" wrote:


P.Fritz wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
Just for you Bassy:

http://tinyurl.com/27hth


Asslicker has been into the cash crops again.

I wonder if he has stopped beating his wife?

Fritz, I see that you still don't have an adult mentality, and are
unable to post anything other than lies, innuendoes, and childish name
calling. Now, please, show the group ANY evidence of your above
allegations. Can you, or are you ignorant?
Where did this wife beating stuff come about? Are you so mentally
unstable that you are projecting again? One thing is for certain, I
HAVE a wife, and she's happy, do you?

What about the cash crop?

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

"John H" wrote in message
...
On 10 Feb 2005 09:44:50 -0800, "basskisser" wrote:

JON CARROLL
Jon Carroll

Thursday, February 10, 2005


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Jon Carroll
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JON CARROLL
02/10/2005

JON CARROLL
02/09/2005

JON CARROLL
02/08/2005







Let us consider the Rapture Index. This is a real thing prepared by
serious people. If it makes you laugh, you have not gotten the memo.
You probably have not read any of the 12 volumes of the "Left Behind"
series, the best-selling books in America today.

Those Left Behind are those who did not experience the Rapture, which
is an instant in time when all the truly holy people are taken directly
to heaven, leaving their clothes in small neat piles behind them. The
rest of the ungodly losers are left to deal with natural disasters and
wars and the armies of the Antichrist, after which they die in various
colorful ways while the ranks of the saved watch with compassion
tempered with an understandable sense of satisfaction.

The Rapture Index, as of this writing, stands at 153. Anything over 145
is labeled by the Rapture Actuaries as "Fasten your seat belts." In
other words: Repent for the End Is Near. You may see all this for
yourself at www.raptureready.com/rap2.html, should you think I'm making
it up.

The Rapture Index is based on 45 prophetic categories, things like
drought, plague, floods, liberalism, beast government and mark of the
beast. "Beast government" is apparently the European Union; the news
that the EU is looking for a new president is seen as a sign that the
end time is drawing nearer. The latest "mark of the beast" is a plan by
the Antichrist that will result in said mark being implanted in the
right hand or forehead of unbelievers. The relatively high number of
this indicator is explained thusly: "Wal-Mart is falling behind in its
plan to bar code all products with radio tags." There are some parts of
this belief system I have not yet grasped.

The Rapture is a good thing, and therefore floods, famine, drought and
all that are also good things because they portend the coming of end
times. Even liberalism is a good thing, because there need to be a lot
of Christ- deniers for the end times to come. (Among the prophesied
Christ-deniers: the pope. That part is pretty much played down in the
pamphlets.)

The end times begin when Russia (also known as the ancient nation of
Gog) and Iran join forces to attack Israel. Before this can happen,
however, the old temple must be rebuilt. Peace between Israel and the
Palestinians is necessary for that to happen, so the Rapture Index sees
the peace talks as a good sign. Not as a good as the tsunami, but
definitely positive.

I am not the first one to notice this. The environmental Web site
www.grist.org has been covering it; Bill Moyers also wrote a column
about it (preserved by truthout at www.truthout.org/docs_
2005/013105F.shtml). Alas, the quote attributed to James Watt, the
secretary of the interior under Ronald Reagan ("after the last tree is
felled, Christ will come back"), is not verifiable, although it's been
reported many times. Probably the liberal media again, taking time out
from promoting the homosexual agenda.

So read the Rapture Index. Consider its implications: One of George
Bush's core constituencies is actively praying for environmental
degradation. Its members are in fact praying for the end of the world,
because the end of the world is the beginning of the fun part of
salvation.

Let's look at the new budget through this lens, which is (I emphasize)
neither fanciful nor satirical. Money for clean water: down. Money for
the cleanup of old nuclear sites, including the massive job at the
Hanford (Wash.) Nuclear Reservation: way down. Number of Forest Service
and Bureau of Land Management acres open for logging: up. Amount of
territory in Alaska declared OK for oil drilling: way up.

You might even consider the impact of the Rapture on deficit financing.
Who cares how much debt we accrue? Christ will come and forgive it all.
Why not borrow against the future to pay for the present? The future is
gonna be a whole different deal. We're just placeholders for God's own
totalitarian state.

For us secular humanists, us gay-marrying, porn-reading, prayer-mocking
harbingers of doom, all this seems incredible. We are still in the
reality- based paradigm; we have not yet crossed over into the
faith-based paradigm. In the faith-based world, the apparent
inconsistencies within the Bush administration fade into nothingness.

Millennial Christians have somehow convinced themselves that the
founding fathers would have approved of all this because they were all
old-time Christians following that old-time religion. Because Rapture
theology was mostly cobbled together in the 19th century based on very
selective readings from parts of the New Testament, it is unlikely that
the founding fathers believed anything of the sort. Not important: Once
again, I'm indulging in reality-based thinking.

Like the prophet said: Fasten your seat belts.

I thought you were a "Dick and Jane" fan.

Asslicker has been hitting the cash crops again........but I wonder if has
quit beating his wife?


John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary
to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

"John H" wrote in message
...
On 10 Feb 2005 12:46:41 -0800, "basskisser" wrote:


P.Fritz wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
Just for you Bassy:

http://tinyurl.com/27hth


Asslicker has been into the cash crops again.

I wonder if he has stopped beating his wife?

Fritz, I see that you still don't have an adult mentality, and are
unable to post anything other than lies, innuendoes, and childish name
calling. Now, please, show the group ANY evidence of your above
allegations. Can you, or are you ignorant?
Where did this wife beating stuff come about? Are you so mentally
unstable that you are projecting again? One thing is for certain, I
HAVE a wife, and she's happy, do you?

What about the cash crop?

I wonder if asslicker has stopped beating his wife yet?



John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary
to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

John H wrote:


I thought you were a "Dick and Jane" fan.

John H


If that is what you "thought", then you MUST be on the bottle again.
Please show where I've ever said I was a '"Dick and Jane" fan'.

P. Fritz wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
...
On 10 Feb 2005 12:46:41 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


P.Fritz wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
Just for you Bassy:

http://tinyurl.com/27hth


Asslicker has been into the cash crops again.

I wonder if he has stopped beating his wife?

Fritz, I see that you still don't have an adult mentality, and
are
unable to post anything other than lies, innuendoes, and childish
name
calling. Now, please, show the group ANY evidence of your above
allegations. Can you, or are you ignorant?
Where did this wife beating stuff come about? Are you so mentally
unstable that you are projecting again? One thing is for certain,
I
HAVE a wife, and she's happy, do you?

What about the cash crop?

I wonder if asslicker has stopped beating his wife yet?



Fritz, you are a liar. And I see that you still don't have the adult
mentality to post anything of substance, just lies, and childish name
calling. Grow up. You certainly got on the wife beating thing fast,
which is a total fabrication on your part. Do you honestly think that
anyone would give you any credibility after starting that drivel? Are
you projecting because of your own pathetic short comings with your
ex-wife? What "cash crop" are you talking about. Be specific, you've
got one more chance at credibility.

John H wrote:
On 10 Feb 2005 12:46:41 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


P.Fritz wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
Just for you Bassy:

http://tinyurl.com/27hth


Asslicker has been into the cash crops again.

I wonder if he has stopped beating his wife?

Fritz, I see that you still don't have an adult mentality, and are
unable to post anything other than lies, innuendoes, and childish
name
calling. Now, please, show the group ANY evidence of your above
allegations. Can you, or are you ignorant?
Where did this wife beating stuff come about? Are you so mentally
unstable that you are projecting again? One thing is for certain, I
HAVE a wife, and she's happy, do you?

What about the cash crop?

John H
What cash crop would that be? Be specific, you may be able to make
people here think that you aren't totally ignorant of any fact.

Harry Krause wrote:
basskisser wrote:
P. Fritz wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
. ..
On 10 Feb 2005 12:46:41 -0800, "basskisser"


wrote:



P.Fritz wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
Just for you Bassy:

http://tinyurl.com/27hth


Asslicker has been into the cash crops again.

I wonder if he has stopped beating his wife?

Fritz, I see that you still don't have an adult mentality, and

are

unable to post anything other than lies, innuendoes, and
childish

name

calling. Now, please, show the group ANY evidence of your above
allegations. Can you, or are you ignorant?
Where did this wife beating stuff come about? Are you so
mentally
unstable that you are projecting again? One thing is for
certain,

I

HAVE a wife, and she's happy, do you?

What about the cash crop?

I wonder if asslicker has stopped beating his wife yet?




Fritz, you are a liar. And I see that you still don't have the
adult
mentality to post anything of substance, just lies, and childish
name
calling. Grow up. You certainly got on the wife beating thing fast,
which is a total fabrication on your part. Do you honestly think
that
anyone would give you any credibility after starting that drivel?
Are
you projecting because of your own pathetic short comings with your
ex-wife? What "cash crop" are you talking about. Be specific,
you've
got one more chance at credibility.



Does Ftitz have a boat?
Has he ever had a boat?
Is he intending to get a boat?

Reason I ask, I simply cannot remember a "Fritz" boating-related post

here. Of course, he's on my bozo list, so I rarely see his droppings,

but occasionally one pops by a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=second%20hand"
onmouseover="window.status='second-hand'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"second-hand/a, as it
were.

What I recall of Fritz is that he visits here to play Laurel and
Hardy
with Hurtdik.

Harry, check this out!:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl.../fioreacct.DTL

basskisser wrote:
John H wrote:


I thought you were a "Dick and Jane" fan.

John H


If that is what you "thought", then you MUST be on the bottle again.
Please show where I've ever said I was a '"Dick and Jane" fan'.

Leaving aside, the Dick and Jane biz, and other distractions, and you
being the OP of this thread. I was wondering if this represented a
subject that is personally of interest to you? Or were you just wanting
to stimulate the group reflex response.

The Moyer article has some salient points and some real low points. The
basis of his presentation is a single statement attributed to Watt. Not
very good for a seasoned journalist, reminds me of Rather.

On the other, some of what he says about the Christians has stimulated
a lot of discussion, even among the boating groups. For some that
discussion is really stretching their mental capability, but the
exercise is good. A mind is a terrible thing to waste, or watch float
away after a capsize. TnT

Tinkerntom wrote:
basskisser wrote:
John H wrote:


I thought you were a "Dick and Jane" fan.

John H


If that is what you "thought", then you MUST be on the bottle
again.
Please show where I've ever said I was a '"Dick and Jane" fan'.

Leaving aside, the Dick and Jane biz, and other distractions, and you
being the OP of this thread. I was wondering if this represented a
subject that is personally of interest to you? Or were you just
wanting
to stimulate the group reflex response.

Yes, it is of personal interest to me. I've always wondered how
supposedly intelligent people could believe that Christian blather.

The Moyer article has some salient points and some real low points.
The
basis of his presentation is a single statement attributed to Watt.
Not
very good for a seasoned journalist, reminds me of Rather.

On the other, some of what he says about the Christians has
stimulated
a lot of discussion, even among the boating groups. For some that
discussion is really stretching their mental capability, but the
exercise is good. A mind is a terrible thing to waste, or watch float
away after a capsize. TnT

On 11 Feb 2005 04:51:25 -0800, "basskisser" wrote:


John H wrote:


I thought you were a "Dick and Jane" fan.

John H


If that is what you "thought", then you MUST be on the bottle again.
Please show where I've ever said I was a '"Dick and Jane" fan'.

You said, "...I was a "Dick and Jane" fan'.

I didn't know what the apostrophe after the ...fan... was for. But, you said it!

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

"John H" wrote in message
...
On 11 Feb 2005 04:51:25 -0800, "basskisser" wrote:


John H wrote:


I thought you were a "Dick and Jane" fan.

John H


If that is what you "thought", then you MUST be on the bottle again.
Please show where I've ever said I was a '"Dick and Jane" fan'.

You said, "...I was a "Dick and Jane" fan'.

I didn't know what the apostrophe after the ...fan... was for. But, you
said it!

Looks like asslicker has gotten into the cash crops again.


John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to
resolve it."
Rene Descartes

On 11 Feb 2005 09:59:39 -0800, "basskisser" wrote:


Tinkerntom wrote:
basskisser wrote:
John H wrote:


I thought you were a "Dick and Jane" fan.

John H


If that is what you "thought", then you MUST be on the bottle
again.
Please show where I've ever said I was a '"Dick and Jane" fan'.

Leaving aside, the Dick and Jane biz, and other distractions, and you
being the OP of this thread. I was wondering if this represented a
subject that is personally of interest to you? Or were you just
wanting
to stimulate the group reflex response.

Yes, it is of personal interest to me. I've always wondered how
supposedly intelligent people could believe that Christian blather.

This will make you feel better and more fulfilled:

A man was being tailgated by a stressed-out woman on a busy boulevard. Suddenly,
the light turned yellow, just in front of him. He did the right thing, stopping
at the crosswalk even though he could have beaten the red light by accelerating
through the intersection. The tailgating woman hit the roof and the horn,
screaming in frustration as she missed her chance to get through the
intersection with him.

While she was still in mid-rant, she heard a tap on her window and looked up
into the face of a very serious police officer The officer ordered her to exit
her car with her hands up. He took her to the police station where she was
searched, fingerprinted, photographed, and placed in a cell. After a couple of
hours, a policeman approached the cell and opened the door. She was escorted
back to the booking desk where the arresting officer was waiting with her
personal effects.

He said, "I'm very sorry for this mistake. You see, I pulled up behind your car
while you were blowing your horn, flipping the guy off in front of you, and
cussing a blue streak at him. I noticed the 'Choose Life' license plate holder,
the 'What Would Jesus Do' bumper sticker, the 'Follow Me to Sunday School'
bumper sticker, and the chrome-plated Christian fish emblem on the trunk.
Naturally, I assumed you had stolen the car."

Now see, don't you feel righteous and verified and all that?


John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

On 11 Feb 2005 04:57:48 -0800, "basskisser" wrote:


John H wrote:
On 10 Feb 2005 12:46:41 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


P.Fritz wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
Just for you Bassy:

http://tinyurl.com/27hth


Asslicker has been into the cash crops again.

I wonder if he has stopped beating his wife?

Fritz, I see that you still don't have an adult mentality, and are
unable to post anything other than lies, innuendoes, and childish
name
calling. Now, please, show the group ANY evidence of your above
allegations. Can you, or are you ignorant?
Where did this wife beating stuff come about? Are you so mentally
unstable that you are projecting again? One thing is for certain, I
HAVE a wife, and she's happy, do you?

What about the cash crop?

John H
What cash crop would that be? Be specific, you may be able to make
people here think that you aren't totally ignorant of any fact.

From which do you make the most money?

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

John H wrote:
On 11 Feb 2005 04:51:25 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


John H wrote:


I thought you were a "Dick and Jane" fan.

John H


If that is what you "thought", then you MUST be on the bottle again.
Please show where I've ever said I was a '"Dick and Jane" fan'.

You said, "...I was a "Dick and Jane" fan'.

I didn't know what the apostrophe after the ...fan... was for. But,
you said it!

John H

Are you drinking again? I NEVER said that. You are either dead wrong,
or a liar. Here is what I said, in response to JimH asking when I
started reading:
Jeez, I don't exactly know that, Jim. I think I began
reading short words, from the Dick and Jane books...
Now, WHERE did I say that I was a "Dick and Jane fan"????

"John H" wrote in message
...
On 11 Feb 2005 04:57:48 -0800, "basskisser" wrote:


John H wrote:
On 10 Feb 2005 12:46:41 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


P.Fritz wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
Just for you Bassy:

http://tinyurl.com/27hth


Asslicker has been into the cash crops again.

I wonder if he has stopped beating his wife?

Fritz, I see that you still don't have an adult mentality, and are
unable to post anything other than lies, innuendoes, and childish
name
calling. Now, please, show the group ANY evidence of your above
allegations. Can you, or are you ignorant?
Where did this wife beating stuff come about? Are you so mentally
unstable that you are projecting again? One thing is for certain, I
HAVE a wife, and she's happy, do you?

What about the cash crop?

John H
What cash crop would that be? Be specific, you may be able to make
people here think that you aren't totally ignorant of any fact.

From which do you make the most money?

But has he stopped beating his wife?



John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to
resolve it."
Rene Descartes

Basskisser,
Anger management classes have been shown to be helpful for those who have to
take their aggression against their spouse.


"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

P. Fritz wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
...
On 10 Feb 2005 12:46:41 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


P.Fritz wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
Just for you Bassy:

http://tinyurl.com/27hth


Asslicker has been into the cash crops again.

I wonder if he has stopped beating his wife?

Fritz, I see that you still don't have an adult mentality, and
are
unable to post anything other than lies, innuendoes, and childish
name
calling. Now, please, show the group ANY evidence of your above
allegations. Can you, or are you ignorant?
Where did this wife beating stuff come about? Are you so mentally
unstable that you are projecting again? One thing is for certain,
I
HAVE a wife, and she's happy, do you?

What about the cash crop?

I wonder if asslicker has stopped beating his wife yet?



Fritz, you are a liar. And I see that you still don't have the adult
mentality to post anything of substance, just lies, and childish name
calling. Grow up. You certainly got on the wife beating thing fast,
which is a total fabrication on your part. Do you honestly think that
anyone would give you any credibility after starting that drivel? Are
you projecting because of your own pathetic short comings with your
ex-wife? What "cash crop" are you talking about. Be specific, you've
got one more chance at credibility.

"Dr. Karen Grear MD, PHD" wrote in message
...
Basskisser,
Anger management classes have been shown to be helpful for those who have
to take their aggression against their spouse.

I have never accused asslicker of beating his wife. ;-)

Damn......it is so easy to make him dance.



"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

P. Fritz wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
...
On 10 Feb 2005 12:46:41 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


P.Fritz wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
Just for you Bassy:

http://tinyurl.com/27hth


Asslicker has been into the cash crops again.

I wonder if he has stopped beating his wife?

Fritz, I see that you still don't have an adult mentality, and
are
unable to post anything other than lies, innuendoes, and childish
name
calling. Now, please, show the group ANY evidence of your above
allegations. Can you, or are you ignorant?
Where did this wife beating stuff come about? Are you so mentally
unstable that you are projecting again? One thing is for certain,
I
HAVE a wife, and she's happy, do you?

What about the cash crop?

I wonder if asslicker has stopped beating his wife yet?



Fritz, you are a liar. And I see that you still don't have the adult
mentality to post anything of substance, just lies, and childish name
calling. Grow up. You certainly got on the wife beating thing fast,
which is a total fabrication on your part. Do you honestly think that
anyone would give you any credibility after starting that drivel? Are
you projecting because of your own pathetic short comings with your
ex-wife? What "cash crop" are you talking about. Be specific, you've
got one more chance at credibility.

On 11 Feb 2005 13:09:10 -0800, "basskisser" wrote:


John H wrote:
On 11 Feb 2005 04:51:25 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


John H wrote:


I thought you were a "Dick and Jane" fan.

John H


If that is what you "thought", then you MUST be on the bottle again.
Please show where I've ever said I was a '"Dick and Jane" fan'.

You said, "...I was a "Dick and Jane" fan'.

I didn't know what the apostrophe after the ...fan... was for. But,
you said it!

John H

Are you drinking again? I NEVER said that. You are either dead wrong,
or a liar. Here is what I said, in response to JimH asking when I
started reading:
Jeez, I don't exactly know that, Jim. I think I began
reading short words, from the Dick and Jane books...
Now, WHERE did I say that I was a "Dick and Jane fan"????

Read the posts.


John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

"John H" wrote in message
...
On 11 Feb 2005 13:09:10 -0800, "basskisser" wrote:


John H wrote:
On 11 Feb 2005 04:51:25 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


John H wrote:


I thought you were a "Dick and Jane" fan.

John H


If that is what you "thought", then you MUST be on the bottle again.
Please show where I've ever said I was a '"Dick and Jane" fan'.

You said, "...I was a "Dick and Jane" fan'.

I didn't know what the apostrophe after the ...fan... was for. But,
you said it!

John H

Are you drinking again? I NEVER said that. You are either dead wrong,
or a liar. Here is what I said, in response to JimH asking when I
started reading:
Jeez, I don't exactly know that, Jim. I think I began
reading short words, from the Dick and Jane books...
Now, WHERE did I say that I was a "Dick and Jane fan"????

Read the posts.

But has he stopped beating his wife yet?




John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to
resolve it."
Rene Descartes

P.Fritz wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
...
On 11 Feb 2005 04:57:48 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


John H wrote:
On 10 Feb 2005 12:46:41 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


P.Fritz wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
Just for you Bassy:

http://tinyurl.com/27hth


Asslicker has been into the cash crops again.

I wonder if he has stopped beating his wife?

Fritz, I see that you still don't have an adult mentality, and
are
unable to post anything other than lies, innuendoes, and
childish
name
calling. Now, please, show the group ANY evidence of your above
allegations. Can you, or are you ignorant?
Where did this wife beating stuff come about? Are you so
mentally
unstable that you are projecting again? One thing is for
certain, I
HAVE a wife, and she's happy, do you?

What about the cash crop?

John H
What cash crop would that be? Be specific, you may be able to make
people here think that you aren't totally ignorant of any fact.

From which do you make the most money?

I don't make money from ANY crop. I do supply the neighborhood with
squash each fall.

But has he stopped beating his wife?

Again, if you'd show some evidence, or quit lying, one or the other,
someone might give you a little credibility. You are a liar.

"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

P.Fritz wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
...
On 11 Feb 2005 04:57:48 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


John H wrote:
On 10 Feb 2005 12:46:41 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


P.Fritz wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
Just for you Bassy:

http://tinyurl.com/27hth


Asslicker has been into the cash crops again.

I wonder if he has stopped beating his wife?

Fritz, I see that you still don't have an adult mentality, and
are
unable to post anything other than lies, innuendoes, and
childish
name
calling. Now, please, show the group ANY evidence of your above
allegations. Can you, or are you ignorant?
Where did this wife beating stuff come about? Are you so
mentally
unstable that you are projecting again? One thing is for
certain, I
HAVE a wife, and she's happy, do you?

What about the cash crop?

John H
What cash crop would that be? Be specific, you may be able to make
people here think that you aren't totally ignorant of any fact.

From which do you make the most money?

I don't make money from ANY crop. I do supply the neighborhood with
squash each fall.

But has he stopped beating his wife?

Again, if you'd show some evidence, or quit lying, one or the other,
someone might give you a little credibility. You are a liar.




So you did finally stop beating your wife?

Dr. Karen Grear MD, PHD wrote:
Basskisser,
Anger management classes have been shown to be helpful for those who
have to
take their aggression against their spouse.

Smithers, if you think that I do the above, please post any facts that
would make you think that. Or, do you automatically believe what Fritz
posts? If so, what has he EVER posted that had any facts in it to make
you think he is even remotely credible?

P.Fritz wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
...
On 11 Feb 2005 04:57:48 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


John H wrote:
On 10 Feb 2005 12:46:41 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


P.Fritz wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
Just for you Bassy:

http://tinyurl.com/27hth


Asslicker has been into the cash crops again.

I wonder if he has stopped beating his wife?

Fritz, I see that you still don't have an adult mentality, and
are
unable to post anything other than lies, innuendoes, and
childish
name
calling. Now, please, show the group ANY evidence of your above
allegations. Can you, or are you ignorant?
Where did this wife beating stuff come about? Are you so
mentally
unstable that you are projecting again? One thing is for
certain, I
HAVE a wife, and she's happy, do you?

What about the cash crop?

John H
What cash crop would that be? Be specific, you may be able to make
people here think that you aren't totally ignorant of any fact.

From which do you make the most money?

But has he stopped beating his wife?


Fritz, grow up. You need to go back to your support groups. You may be
projecting.

"JimH" wrote in message
...

"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

P.Fritz wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
...
On 11 Feb 2005 04:57:48 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


John H wrote:
On 10 Feb 2005 12:46:41 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


P.Fritz wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
Just for you Bassy:

http://tinyurl.com/27hth


Asslicker has been into the cash crops again.

I wonder if he has stopped beating his wife?

Fritz, I see that you still don't have an adult mentality, and
are
unable to post anything other than lies, innuendoes, and
childish
name
calling. Now, please, show the group ANY evidence of your above
allegations. Can you, or are you ignorant?
Where did this wife beating stuff come about? Are you so
mentally
unstable that you are projecting again? One thing is for
certain, I
HAVE a wife, and she's happy, do you?

What about the cash crop?

John H
What cash crop would that be? Be specific, you may be able to make
people here think that you aren't totally ignorant of any fact.

From which do you make the most money?

I don't make money from ANY crop. I do supply the neighborhood with
squash each fall.

But has he stopped beating his wife?

Again, if you'd show some evidence, or quit lying, one or the other,
someone might give you a little credibility. You are a liar.




So you did finally stop beating your wife?

Asslicker is too stupid to realize that he has fallen chest deep into his
own ****.

Just more evidence that he truely deserves the title of "King of the NG
idiots"

JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

P.Fritz wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
...
On 11 Feb 2005 04:57:48 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


John H wrote:
On 10 Feb 2005 12:46:41 -0800, "basskisser"

wrote:


P.Fritz wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
Just for you Bassy:

http://tinyurl.com/27hth


Asslicker has been into the cash crops again.

I wonder if he has stopped beating his wife?

Fritz, I see that you still don't have an adult mentality,
and
are
unable to post anything other than lies, innuendoes, and
childish
name
calling. Now, please, show the group ANY evidence of your
above
allegations. Can you, or are you ignorant?
Where did this wife beating stuff come about? Are you so
mentally
unstable that you are projecting again? One thing is for
certain, I
HAVE a wife, and she's happy, do you?

What about the cash crop?

John H
What cash crop would that be? Be specific, you may be able to
make
people here think that you aren't totally ignorant of any fact.

From which do you make the most money?

I don't make money from ANY crop. I do supply the neighborhood with
squash each fall.

But has he stopped beating his wife?

Again, if you'd show some evidence, or quit lying, one or the
other,
someone might give you a little credibility. You are a liar.




So you did finally stop beating your wife?

I guess, as I've suspected before, that you just aren't able to
comprehend what you've read, huh?

P.Fritz wrote:
"Dr. Karen Grear MD, PHD" wrote in message
...
Basskisser,
Anger management classes have been shown to be helpful for those
who have
to take their aggression against their spouse.

I have never accused asslicker of beating his wife. ;-)

Oh, really? Here's a new word for you, it's a legal term, and it's been
used many, many times to prove guilt. Implication. Now, just what WERE
you implying, then by asking whether or not I had "stopped" beating my
wife? By using the word STOPPED, you've implied that I have done so,
and you've also implied that you have some facts, or evidence to back
up your allegations. What ARE those facts?

John H wrote:
On 11 Feb 2005 13:09:10 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


John H wrote:
On 11 Feb 2005 04:51:25 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


John H wrote:


I thought you were a "Dick and Jane" fan.

John H


If that is what you "thought", then you MUST be on the bottle
again.
Please show where I've ever said I was a '"Dick and Jane" fan'.

You said, "...I was a "Dick and Jane" fan'.

I didn't know what the apostrophe after the ...fan... was for.
But,
you said it!

John H

Are you drinking again? I NEVER said that. You are either dead
wrong,
or a liar. Here is what I said, in response to JimH asking when I
started reading:
Jeez, I don't exactly know that, Jim. I think I began
reading short words, from the Dick and Jane books...
Now, WHERE did I say that I was a "Dick and Jane fan"????

Read the posts.


John H

Never said that. And YOU either know that I never said that, or are
drunk, or just can't comprehend what you've read.

On 14 Feb 2005 09:36:30 -0800, "basskisser" wrote:


John H wrote:
On 11 Feb 2005 13:09:10 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


John H wrote:
On 11 Feb 2005 04:51:25 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


John H wrote:


I thought you were a "Dick and Jane" fan.

John H


If that is what you "thought", then you MUST be on the bottle
again.
Please show where I've ever said I was a '"Dick and Jane" fan'.

You said, "...I was a "Dick and Jane" fan'.

I didn't know what the apostrophe after the ...fan... was for.
But,
you said it!

John H

Are you drinking again? I NEVER said that. You are either dead
wrong,
or a liar. Here is what I said, in response to JimH asking when I
started reading:
Jeez, I don't exactly know that, Jim. I think I began
reading short words, from the Dick and Jane books...
Now, WHERE did I say that I was a "Dick and Jane fan"????

Read the posts.


John H

Never said that. And YOU either know that I never said that, or are
drunk, or just can't comprehend what you've read.


Yes, you did. Read the above posts. See if you can find a line that *you* wrote
with the phrase, "...I was a "Dick and Jane" fan'."

Now, perhaps you were quoted out of context, but you were quoted correctly. Out
of context quoting has been a forte' of yours in the past. [No, I'm not going to
post 'proof'.]


John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

John H wrote:
On 14 Feb 2005 09:36:30 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


John H wrote:
On 11 Feb 2005 13:09:10 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


John H wrote:
On 11 Feb 2005 04:51:25 -0800, "basskisser"

wrote:


John H wrote:


I thought you were a "Dick and Jane" fan.

John H


If that is what you "thought", then you MUST be on the bottle
again.
Please show where I've ever said I was a '"Dick and Jane"
fan'.

You said, "...I was a "Dick and Jane" fan'.

I didn't know what the apostrophe after the ...fan... was for.
But,
you said it!

John H

Are you drinking again? I NEVER said that. You are either dead
wrong,
or a liar. Here is what I said, in response to JimH asking when I
started reading:
Jeez, I don't exactly know that, Jim. I think I began
reading short words, from the Dick and Jane books...
Now, WHERE did I say that I was a "Dick and Jane fan"????

Read the posts.


John H

Never said that. And YOU either know that I never said that, or are
drunk, or just can't comprehend what you've read.


Yes, you did. Read the above posts. See if you can find a line that
*you* wrote
with the phrase, "...I was a "Dick and Jane" fan'."

Now, perhaps you were quoted out of context, but you were quoted
correctly. Out
of context quoting has been a forte' of yours in the past. [No, I'm
not going to
post 'proof'.]


John H

Okay, I can't help myself anymore. You are indeed, stupid. Either that,
or you were drunk, and forgot that YOU was the person who, ignorantly,
and wrongly, posted that I said I was a Dick and Jane fan. YOU. Do you
not remember? Here it is:
John H Feb 10, 2:29 pm show options

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02/08/2005


Let us consider the Rapture Index. This is a real thing prepared by
serious people. If it makes you laugh, you have not gotten the memo.
You probably have not read any of the 12 volumes of the "Left Behind"
series, the best-selling books in America today.


Those Left Behind are those who did not experience the Rapture, which
is an instant in time when all the truly holy people are taken
directly
to heaven, leaving their clothes in small neat piles behind them. The
rest of the ungodly losers are left to deal with natural disasters and

wars and the armies of the Antichrist, after which they die in various

colorful ways while the ranks of the saved watch with compassion
tempered with an understandable sense of satisfaction.


The Rapture Index, as of this writing, stands at 153. Anything over
145
is labeled by the Rapture Actuaries as "Fasten your seat belts." In
other words: Repent for the End Is Near. You may see all this for
yourself at www.raptureready.com/rap2.html, should you think I'm
making
it up.


The Rapture Index is based on 45 prophetic categories, things like
drought, plague, floods, liberalism, beast government and mark of the
beast. "Beast government" is apparently the European Union; the news
that the EU is looking for a new president is seen as a sign that the
end time is drawing nearer. The latest "mark of the beast" is a plan
by
the Antichrist that will result in said mark being implanted in the
right hand or forehead of unbelievers. The relatively high number of
this indicator is explained thusly: "Wal-Mart is falling behind in its

plan to bar code all products with radio tags." There are some parts
of
this belief system I have not yet grasped.


The Rapture is a good thing, and therefore floods, famine, drought and

all that are also good things because they portend the coming of end
times. Even liberalism is a good thing, because there need to be a lot

of Christ- deniers for the end times to come. (Among the prophesied
Christ-deniers: the pope. That part is pretty much played down in the
pamphlets.)


The end times begin when Russia (also known as the ancient nation of
Gog) and Iran join forces to attack Israel. Before this can happen,
however, the old temple must be rebuilt. Peace between Israel and the
Palestinians is necessary for that to happen, so the Rapture Index
sees
the peace talks as a good sign. Not as a good as the tsunami, but
definitely positive.


I am not the first one to notice this. The environmental Web site
www.grist.org has been covering it; Bill Moyers also wrote a column
about it (preserved by truthout at www.truthout.org/docs_
2005/013105F.shtml). Alas, the quote attributed to James Watt, the
secretary of the interior under Ronald Reagan ("after the last tree is

felled, Christ will come back"), is not verifiable, although it's been

reported many times. Probably the liberal media again, taking time out

from promoting the homosexual agenda.


So read the Rapture Index. Consider its implications: One of George
Bush's core constituencies is actively praying for environmental
degradation. Its members are in fact praying for the end of the world,

because the end of the world is the beginning of the fun part of
salvation.


Let's look at the new budget through this lens, which is (I emphasize)

neither fanciful nor satirical. Money for clean water: down. Money for

the cleanup of old nuclear sites, including the massive job at the
Hanford (Wash.) Nuclear Reservation: way down. Number of Forest
Service
and Bureau of Land Management acres open for logging: up. Amount of
territory in Alaska declared OK for oil drilling: way up.


You might even consider the impact of the Rapture on deficit
financing.
Who cares how much debt we accrue? Christ will come and forgive it
all.
Why not borrow against the future to pay for the present? The future
is
gonna be a whole different deal. We're just placeholders for God's own

totalitarian state.


For us secular humanists, us gay-marrying, porn-reading,
prayer-mocking
harbingers of doom, all this seems incredible. We are still in the
reality- based paradigm; we have not yet crossed over into the
faith-based paradigm. In the faith-based world, the apparent
inconsistencies within the Bush administration fade into nothingness.


Millennial Christians have somehow convinced themselves that the
founding fathers would have approved of all this because they were all

old-time Christians following that old-time religion. Because Rapture
theology was mostly cobbled together in the 19th century based on very

selective readings from parts of the New Testament, it is unlikely
that
the founding fathers believed anything of the sort. Not important:
Once
again, I'm indulging in reality-based thinking.


Like the prophet said: Fasten your seat belts.



I thought you were a "Dick and Jane" fan.

John H


On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary
to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

The question is "Have you stopped beating your wife?"


"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

P.Fritz wrote:
"Dr. Karen Grear MD, PHD" wrote in message
...
Basskisser,
Anger management classes have been shown to be helpful for those
who have
to take their aggression against their spouse.

I have never accused asslicker of beating his wife. ;-)

Oh, really? Here's a new word for you, it's a legal term, and it's been
used many, many times to prove guilt. Implication. Now, just what WERE
you implying, then by asking whether or not I had "stopped" beating my
wife? By using the word STOPPED, you've implied that I have done so,
and you've also implied that you have some facts, or evidence to back
up your allegations. What ARE those facts?

John H wrote:
On 14 Feb 2005 11:46:48 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


John H wrote:
On 14 Feb 2005 09:36:30 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


John H wrote:
On 11 Feb 2005 13:09:10 -0800, "basskisser"

wrote:


John H wrote:
On 11 Feb 2005 04:51:25 -0800, "basskisser"

wrote:


John H wrote:


I thought you were a "Dick and Jane" fan.

John H


If that is what you "thought", then you MUST be on the
bottle
again.
Please show where I've ever said I was a '"Dick and Jane"
fan'.

You said, "...I was a "Dick and Jane" fan'.

I didn't know what the apostrophe after the ...fan... was
for.
But,
you said it!

John H

Are you drinking again? I NEVER said that. You are either dead
wrong,
or a liar. Here is what I said, in response to JimH asking
when I
started reading:
Jeez, I don't exactly know that, Jim. I think I began
reading short words, from the Dick and Jane books...
Now, WHERE did I say that I was a "Dick and Jane fan"????

Read the posts.


John H

Never said that. And YOU either know that I never said that, or
are
drunk, or just can't comprehend what you've read.


Yes, you did. Read the above posts. See if you can find a line
that
*you* wrote
with the phrase, "...I was a "Dick and Jane" fan'."

Now, perhaps you were quoted out of context, but you were quoted
correctly. Out
of context quoting has been a forte' of yours in the past. [No,
I'm
not going to
post 'proof'.]


John H

Okay, I can't help myself anymore. You are indeed, stupid. Either
that,
or you were drunk, and forgot that YOU was the person who,
ignorantly,
and wrongly, posted that I said I was a Dick and Jane fan. YOU. Do
you
not remember? Here it is:
John H Feb 10, 2:29 pm show options

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JON CARROLL
02/09/2005


JON CARROLL
02/08/2005


Let us consider the Rapture Index. This is a real thing prepared by
serious people. If it makes you laugh, you have not gotten the
memo.
You probably have not read any of the 12 volumes of the "Left
Behind"
series, the best-selling books in America today.


Those Left Behind are those who did not experience the Rapture,
which
is an instant in time when all the truly holy people are taken
directly
to heaven, leaving their clothes in small neat piles behind them.
The
rest of the ungodly losers are left to deal with natural disasters
and

wars and the armies of the Antichrist, after which they die in
various

colorful ways while the ranks of the saved watch with compassion
tempered with an understandable sense of satisfaction.


The Rapture Index, as of this writing, stands at 153. Anything over
145
is labeled by the Rapture Actuaries as "Fasten your seat belts." In
other words: Repent for the End Is Near. You may see all this for
yourself at www.raptureready.com/rap2.html, should you think I'm
making
it up.


The Rapture Index is based on 45 prophetic categories, things like
drought, plague, floods, liberalism, beast government and mark of
the
beast. "Beast government" is apparently the European Union; the
news
that the EU is looking for a new president is seen as a sign that
the
end time is drawing nearer. The latest "mark of the beast" is a
plan
by
the Antichrist that will result in said mark being implanted in the
right hand or forehead of unbelievers. The relatively high number
of
this indicator is explained thusly: "Wal-Mart is falling behind in
its

plan to bar code all products with radio tags." There are some
parts
of
this belief system I have not yet grasped.


The Rapture is a good thing, and therefore floods, famine, drought
and

all that are also good things because they portend the coming of
end
times. Even liberalism is a good thing, because there need to be a
lot

of Christ- deniers for the end times to come. (Among the prophesied
Christ-deniers: the pope. That part is pretty much played down in
the
pamphlets.)


The end times begin when Russia (also known as the ancient nation
of
Gog) and Iran join forces to attack Israel. Before this can happen,
however, the old temple must be rebuilt. Peace between Israel and
the
Palestinians is necessary for that to happen, so the Rapture Index
sees
the peace talks as a good sign. Not as a good as the tsunami, but
definitely positive.


I am not the first one to notice this. The environmental Web site
www.grist.org has been covering it; Bill Moyers also wrote a column
about it (preserved by truthout at www.truthout.org/docs_
2005/013105F.shtml). Alas, the quote attributed to James Watt, the
secretary of the interior under Ronald Reagan ("after the last tree
is

felled, Christ will come back"), is not verifiable, although it's
been

reported many times. Probably the liberal media again, taking time
out

from promoting the homosexual agenda.


So read the Rapture Index. Consider its implications: One of George
Bush's core constituencies is actively praying for environmental
degradation. Its members are in fact praying for the end of the
world,

because the end of the world is the beginning of the fun part of
salvation.


Let's look at the new budget through this lens, which is (I
emphasize)

neither fanciful nor satirical. Money for clean water: down. Money
for

the cleanup of old nuclear sites, including the massive job at the
Hanford (Wash.) Nuclear Reservation: way down. Number of Forest
Service
and Bureau of Land Management acres open for logging: up. Amount of
territory in Alaska declared OK for oil drilling: way up.


You might even consider the impact of the Rapture on deficit
financing.
Who cares how much debt we accrue? Christ will come and forgive it
all.
Why not borrow against the future to pay for the present? The
future
is
gonna be a whole different deal. We're just placeholders for God's
own

totalitarian state.


For us secular humanists, us gay-marrying, porn-reading,
prayer-mocking
harbingers of doom, all this seems incredible. We are still in the
reality- based paradigm; we have not yet crossed over into the
faith-based paradigm. In the faith-based world, the apparent
inconsistencies within the Bush administration fade into
nothingness.


Millennial Christians have somehow convinced themselves that the
founding fathers would have approved of all this because they were
all

old-time Christians following that old-time religion. Because
Rapture
theology was mostly cobbled together in the 19th century based on
very

selective readings from parts of the New Testament, it is unlikely
that
the founding fathers believed anything of the sort. Not important:
Once
again, I'm indulging in reality-based thinking.


Like the prophet said: Fasten your seat belts.



I thought you were a "Dick and Jane" fan.

John H


On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and
necessary
to resolve it."
Rene Descartes


There, now we've both stated it. I guess that should be enough proof,
especially
since neither of us is responsible for anything we post, right?

John H

My god you ARE ignorant. Where did I ever say that I'm not responsible
for ANYTHING I post? Only a fool would take where I said that I'm not
responsible for content of articles I cut and paste, and turn that into
saying ANYTHING.....Learn to read. Secondly, the only thing I stated
about being a "fan" of Dick and Jane, was in response to YOU saying
that. I NEVER, EVER said that prior to you accusing me of such. That
was either a blatant lie on your part, or, as usual, you can't
comprehend what you've read.

"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...
H

My god you ARE ignorant. Where did I ever say that I'm not responsible
for ANYTHING I post? Only a fool would take where I said that I'm not
responsible for content of articles I cut and paste, and turn that into
saying ANYTHING.....Learn to read. Secondly, the only thing I stated
about being a "fan" of Dick and Jane, was in response to YOU saying
that. I NEVER, EVER said that prior to you accusing me of such. That
was either a blatant lie on your part, or, as usual, you can't
comprehend what you've read.

Yes, but do you still beat your wife?

On 14 Feb 2005 13:47:40 -0800, "basskisser" wrote:


John H wrote:
On 14 Feb 2005 11:46:48 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


John H wrote:
On 14 Feb 2005 09:36:30 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


John H wrote:
On 11 Feb 2005 13:09:10 -0800, "basskisser"

wrote:


John H wrote:
On 11 Feb 2005 04:51:25 -0800, "basskisser"

wrote:


John H wrote:


I thought you were a "Dick and Jane" fan.

John H


If that is what you "thought", then you MUST be on the
bottle
again.
Please show where I've ever said I was a '"Dick and Jane"
fan'.

You said, "...I was a "Dick and Jane" fan'.

I didn't know what the apostrophe after the ...fan... was
for.
But,
you said it!

John H

Are you drinking again? I NEVER said that. You are either dead
wrong,
or a liar. Here is what I said, in response to JimH asking
when I
started reading:
Jeez, I don't exactly know that, Jim. I think I began
reading short words, from the Dick and Jane books...
Now, WHERE did I say that I was a "Dick and Jane fan"????

Read the posts.


John H

Never said that. And YOU either know that I never said that, or
are
drunk, or just can't comprehend what you've read.


Yes, you did. Read the above posts. See if you can find a line
that
*you* wrote
with the phrase, "...I was a "Dick and Jane" fan'."

Now, perhaps you were quoted out of context, but you were quoted
correctly. Out
of context quoting has been a forte' of yours in the past. [No,
I'm
not going to
post 'proof'.]


John H

Okay, I can't help myself anymore. You are indeed, stupid. Either
that,
or you were drunk, and forgot that YOU was the person who,
ignorantly,
and wrongly, posted that I said I was a Dick and Jane fan. YOU. Do
you
not remember? Here it is:
John H Feb 10, 2:29 pm show options

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JON CARROLL
Jon Carroll

Thursday, February 10, 2005


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Jon Carroll
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JON CARROLL
02/10/2005


JON CARROLL
02/09/2005


JON CARROLL
02/08/2005


Let us consider the Rapture Index. This is a real thing prepared by
serious people. If it makes you laugh, you have not gotten the
memo.
You probably have not read any of the 12 volumes of the "Left
Behind"
series, the best-selling books in America today.


Those Left Behind are those who did not experience the Rapture,
which
is an instant in time when all the truly holy people are taken
directly
to heaven, leaving their clothes in small neat piles behind them.
The
rest of the ungodly losers are left to deal with natural disasters
and

wars and the armies of the Antichrist, after which they die in
various

colorful ways while the ranks of the saved watch with compassion
tempered with an understandable sense of satisfaction.


The Rapture Index, as of this writing, stands at 153. Anything over
145
is labeled by the Rapture Actuaries as "Fasten your seat belts." In
other words: Repent for the End Is Near. You may see all this for
yourself at www.raptureready.com/rap2.html, should you think I'm
making
it up.


The Rapture Index is based on 45 prophetic categories, things like
drought, plague, floods, liberalism, beast government and mark of
the
beast. "Beast government" is apparently the European Union; the
news
that the EU is looking for a new president is seen as a sign that
the
end time is drawing nearer. The latest "mark of the beast" is a
plan
by
the Antichrist that will result in said mark being implanted in the
right hand or forehead of unbelievers. The relatively high number
of
this indicator is explained thusly: "Wal-Mart is falling behind in
its

plan to bar code all products with radio tags." There are some
parts
of
this belief system I have not yet grasped.


The Rapture is a good thing, and therefore floods, famine, drought
and

all that are also good things because they portend the coming of
end
times. Even liberalism is a good thing, because there need to be a
lot

of Christ- deniers for the end times to come. (Among the prophesied
Christ-deniers: the pope. That part is pretty much played down in
the
pamphlets.)


The end times begin when Russia (also known as the ancient nation
of
Gog) and Iran join forces to attack Israel. Before this can happen,
however, the old temple must be rebuilt. Peace between Israel and
the
Palestinians is necessary for that to happen, so the Rapture Index
sees
the peace talks as a good sign. Not as a good as the tsunami, but
definitely positive.


I am not the first one to notice this. The environmental Web site
www.grist.org has been covering it; Bill Moyers also wrote a column
about it (preserved by truthout at www.truthout.org/docs_
2005/013105F.shtml). Alas, the quote attributed to James Watt, the
secretary of the interior under Ronald Reagan ("after the last tree
is

felled, Christ will come back"), is not verifiable, although it's
been

reported many times. Probably the liberal media again, taking time
out

from promoting the homosexual agenda.


So read the Rapture Index. Consider its implications: One of George
Bush's core constituencies is actively praying for environmental
degradation. Its members are in fact praying for the end of the
world,

because the end of the world is the beginning of the fun part of
salvation.


Let's look at the new budget through this lens, which is (I
emphasize)

neither fanciful nor satirical. Money for clean water: down. Money
for

the cleanup of old nuclear sites, including the massive job at the
Hanford (Wash.) Nuclear Reservation: way down. Number of Forest
Service
and Bureau of Land Management acres open for logging: up. Amount of
territory in Alaska declared OK for oil drilling: way up.


You might even consider the impact of the Rapture on deficit
financing.
Who cares how much debt we accrue? Christ will come and forgive it
all.
Why not borrow against the future to pay for the present? The
future
is
gonna be a whole different deal. We're just placeholders for God's
own

totalitarian state.


For us secular humanists, us gay-marrying, porn-reading,
prayer-mocking
harbingers of doom, all this seems incredible. We are still in the
reality- based paradigm; we have not yet crossed over into the
faith-based paradigm. In the faith-based world, the apparent
inconsistencies within the Bush administration fade into
nothingness.


Millennial Christians have somehow convinced themselves that the
founding fathers would have approved of all this because they were
all

old-time Christians following that old-time religion. Because
Rapture
theology was mostly cobbled together in the 19th century based on
very

selective readings from parts of the New Testament, it is unlikely
that
the founding fathers believed anything of the sort. Not important:
Once
again, I'm indulging in reality-based thinking.


Like the prophet said: Fasten your seat belts.



I thought you were a "Dick and Jane" fan.

John H


On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and
necessary
to resolve it."
Rene Descartes


There, now we've both stated it. I guess that should be enough proof,
especially
since neither of us is responsible for anything we post, right?

John H

My god you ARE ignorant. Where did I ever say that I'm not responsible
for ANYTHING I post? Only a fool would take where I said that I'm not
responsible for content of articles I cut and paste, and turn that into
saying ANYTHING.....Learn to read. Secondly, the only thing I stated
about being a "fan" of Dick and Jane, was in response to YOU saying
that. I NEVER, EVER said that prior to you accusing me of such. That
was either a blatant lie on your part, or, as usual, you can't
comprehend what you've read.

I am now laughing my ass almost off!

I quit on this one. You're too much!


John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

"John H" wrote in message
...
On 14 Feb 2005 13:47:40 -0800, "basskisser" wrote:


John H wrote:
On 14 Feb 2005 11:46:48 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


John H wrote:
On 14 Feb 2005 09:36:30 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


John H wrote:
On 11 Feb 2005 13:09:10 -0800, "basskisser"

wrote:


John H wrote:
On 11 Feb 2005 04:51:25 -0800, "basskisser"

wrote:


John H wrote:


I thought you were a "Dick and Jane" fan.

John H


If that is what you "thought", then you MUST be on the
bottle
again.
Please show where I've ever said I was a '"Dick and Jane"
fan'.

You said, "...I was a "Dick and Jane" fan'.

I didn't know what the apostrophe after the ...fan... was
for.
But,
you said it!

John H

Are you drinking again? I NEVER said that. You are either dead
wrong,
or a liar. Here is what I said, in response to JimH asking
when I
started reading:
Jeez, I don't exactly know that, Jim. I think I began
reading short words, from the Dick and Jane books...
Now, WHERE did I say that I was a "Dick and Jane fan"????

Read the posts.


John H

Never said that. And YOU either know that I never said that, or
are
drunk, or just can't comprehend what you've read.


Yes, you did. Read the above posts. See if you can find a line
that
*you* wrote
with the phrase, "...I was a "Dick and Jane" fan'."

Now, perhaps you were quoted out of context, but you were quoted
correctly. Out
of context quoting has been a forte' of yours in the past. [No,
I'm
not going to
post 'proof'.]


John H

Okay, I can't help myself anymore. You are indeed, stupid. Either
that,
or you were drunk, and forgot that YOU was the person who,
ignorantly,
and wrongly, posted that I said I was a Dick and Jane fan. YOU. Do
you
not remember? Here it is:
John H Feb 10, 2:29 pm show options

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Local: Thurs, Feb 10 2005 2:29 pm
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JON CARROLL
Jon Carroll

Thursday, February 10, 2005


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Jon Carroll
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JON CARROLL
02/10/2005


JON CARROLL
02/09/2005


JON CARROLL
02/08/2005


Let us consider the Rapture Index. This is a real thing prepared by
serious people. If it makes you laugh, you have not gotten the
memo.
You probably have not read any of the 12 volumes of the "Left
Behind"
series, the best-selling books in America today.


Those Left Behind are those who did not experience the Rapture,
which
is an instant in time when all the truly holy people are taken
directly
to heaven, leaving their clothes in small neat piles behind them.
The
rest of the ungodly losers are left to deal with natural disasters
and

wars and the armies of the Antichrist, after which they die in
various

colorful ways while the ranks of the saved watch with compassion
tempered with an understandable sense of satisfaction.


The Rapture Index, as of this writing, stands at 153. Anything over
145
is labeled by the Rapture Actuaries as "Fasten your seat belts." In
other words: Repent for the End Is Near. You may see all this for
yourself at www.raptureready.com/rap2.html, should you think I'm
making
it up.


The Rapture Index is based on 45 prophetic categories, things like
drought, plague, floods, liberalism, beast government and mark of
the
beast. "Beast government" is apparently the European Union; the
news
that the EU is looking for a new president is seen as a sign that
the
end time is drawing nearer. The latest "mark of the beast" is a
plan
by
the Antichrist that will result in said mark being implanted in the
right hand or forehead of unbelievers. The relatively high number
of
this indicator is explained thusly: "Wal-Mart is falling behind in
its

plan to bar code all products with radio tags." There are some
parts
of
this belief system I have not yet grasped.


The Rapture is a good thing, and therefore floods, famine, drought
and

all that are also good things because they portend the coming of
end
times. Even liberalism is a good thing, because there need to be a
lot

of Christ- deniers for the end times to come. (Among the prophesied
Christ-deniers: the pope. That part is pretty much played down in
the
pamphlets.)


The end times begin when Russia (also known as the ancient nation
of
Gog) and Iran join forces to attack Israel. Before this can happen,
however, the old temple must be rebuilt. Peace between Israel and
the
Palestinians is necessary for that to happen, so the Rapture Index
sees
the peace talks as a good sign. Not as a good as the tsunami, but
definitely positive.


I am not the first one to notice this. The environmental Web site
www.grist.org has been covering it; Bill Moyers also wrote a column
about it (preserved by truthout at www.truthout.org/docs_
2005/013105F.shtml). Alas, the quote attributed to James Watt, the
secretary of the interior under Ronald Reagan ("after the last tree
is

felled, Christ will come back"), is not verifiable, although it's
been

reported many times. Probably the liberal media again, taking time
out

from promoting the homosexual agenda.


So read the Rapture Index. Consider its implications: One of George
Bush's core constituencies is actively praying for environmental
degradation. Its members are in fact praying for the end of the
world,

because the end of the world is the beginning of the fun part of
salvation.


Let's look at the new budget through this lens, which is (I
emphasize)

neither fanciful nor satirical. Money for clean water: down. Money
for

the cleanup of old nuclear sites, including the massive job at the
Hanford (Wash.) Nuclear Reservation: way down. Number of Forest
Service
and Bureau of Land Management acres open for logging: up. Amount of
territory in Alaska declared OK for oil drilling: way up.


You might even consider the impact of the Rapture on deficit
financing.
Who cares how much debt we accrue? Christ will come and forgive it
all.
Why not borrow against the future to pay for the present? The
future
is
gonna be a whole different deal. We're just placeholders for God's
own

totalitarian state.


For us secular humanists, us gay-marrying, porn-reading,
prayer-mocking
harbingers of doom, all this seems incredible. We are still in the
reality- based paradigm; we have not yet crossed over into the
faith-based paradigm. In the faith-based world, the apparent
inconsistencies within the Bush administration fade into
nothingness.


Millennial Christians have somehow convinced themselves that the
founding fathers would have approved of all this because they were
all

old-time Christians following that old-time religion. Because
Rapture
theology was mostly cobbled together in the 19th century based on
very

selective readings from parts of the New Testament, it is unlikely
that
the founding fathers believed anything of the sort. Not important:
Once
again, I'm indulging in reality-based thinking.


Like the prophet said: Fasten your seat belts.



I thought you were a "Dick and Jane" fan.

John H


On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and
necessary
to resolve it."
Rene Descartes


There, now we've both stated it. I guess that should be enough proof,
especially
since neither of us is responsible for anything we post, right?

John H

My god you ARE ignorant. Where did I ever say that I'm not responsible
for ANYTHING I post? Only a fool would take where I said that I'm not
responsible for content of articles I cut and paste, and turn that into
saying ANYTHING.....Learn to read. Secondly, the only thing I stated
about being a "fan" of Dick and Jane, was in response to YOU saying
that. I NEVER, EVER said that prior to you accusing me of such. That
was either a blatant lie on your part, or, as usual, you can't
comprehend what you've read.

I am now laughing my ass almost off!

I quit on this one. You're too much!


John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to
resolve it."
Rene Descartes

Join us at the *union humor* thread. He is being quite amusing there also.