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Short Wave Sportfishing February 6th 05 04:20 PM

Spring fever...
 
It is such a nice day, I decided to open up the Ranger and check
things out - you know - just look around the boat, make sure things
are ok - you know, get ready for March 1st when the cover comes off
and the bottom is painted and stuff? :)

Good damn thing I did - the starting battery had a bulge in the side
and looked like it was about to fail. Pulled that sucker out in a
hurry. I've got the trolling motor batteries on slow charge right
now.

Can't figure out what happened to the starting battery - it was
disconnected and was fully charged before I put it away for the
winter. Never seen that happen before.

Oh well, another 45 days until launch day.

I hope.

Later,

Tom

Tom February 6th 05 04:50 PM

On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 16:20:44 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

It is such a nice day, I decided to open up the Ranger and check
things out - you know - just look around the boat, make sure things
are ok - you know, get ready for March 1st when the cover comes off
and the bottom is painted and stuff? :)

Good damn thing I did - the starting battery had a bulge in the side
and looked like it was about to fail. Pulled that sucker out in a
hurry. I've got the trolling motor batteries on slow charge right
now.

Can't figure out what happened to the starting battery - it was
disconnected and was fully charged before I put it away for the
winter. Never seen that happen before.

Oh well, another 45 days until launch day.

Good timing - glad you caught it. The only time that's ever happened
to me was due to overcharging. Glad you're getting a break in the
weather. My new boat was supposed to be ready this past week but
(surprise!!) they're running late. Just as well - it's only in the
'60's this weekend - hopefully will be warmer next weekend. Take care.

Mike G February 6th 05 05:55 PM

In article ,
says...
It is such a nice day, I decided to open up the Ranger and check
things out - you know - just look around the boat, make sure things
are ok - you know, get ready for March 1st when the cover comes off
and the bottom is painted and stuff? :)

Good damn thing I did - the starting battery had a bulge in the side
and looked like it was about to fail. Pulled that sucker out in a
hurry. I've got the trolling motor batteries on slow charge right
now.

Can't figure out what happened to the starting battery - it was
disconnected and was fully charged before I put it away for the
winter. Never seen that happen before.

Oh well, another 45 days until launch day.

I hope.

Later,

Tom



IF it is an older battery and one of the cells shorted out from the crud
that drops to the bottom of a battery you'll get a dead cell which will,
if you live where it gets below freezing, freeze and bulge a case.

It's a possibility

--
Mike G.
Heirloom Woods

www.heirloom-woods.net

Short Wave Sportfishing February 6th 05 07:21 PM

On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 12:55:49 -0500, Mike G
wrote:

In article ,
says...
It is such a nice day, I decided to open up the Ranger and check
things out - you know - just look around the boat, make sure things
are ok - you know, get ready for March 1st when the cover comes off
and the bottom is painted and stuff? :)

Good damn thing I did - the starting battery had a bulge in the side
and looked like it was about to fail. Pulled that sucker out in a
hurry. I've got the trolling motor batteries on slow charge right
now.

Can't figure out what happened to the starting battery - it was
disconnected and was fully charged before I put it away for the
winter. Never seen that happen before.

Oh well, another 45 days until launch day.

I hope.


IF it is an older battery and one of the cells shorted out from the crud
that drops to the bottom of a battery you'll get a dead cell which will,
if you live where it gets below freezing, freeze and bulge a case.

It's a possibility


I just got back in from the garage - two of the cells were dry and I
figured out why the battery was dead - somehow the ignition was turned
on.

Whoopsie! :)

~~ oh well ~~

Later,

Tom

[email protected] February 6th 05 07:38 PM

Tom wrote:

I just got back in from the garage - two of the cells were dry and I
figured out why the battery was dead - somehow the ignition was turned
on.

Whoopsie! :)


~~ oh well ~~


Later,


Tom

********************

Hope you didn't have an hour meter wired to the ignition. We've all
heard the horror stories about snowbirds who come back north to find
3000 "hours" on a brand new boat. :-)


Don White February 6th 05 07:44 PM


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
Oh well, another 45 days until launch day.



45 days??? It'll be at least double that for me. Probably somewhere around
the 'Victoria Day' long weekend late May.



Short Wave Sportfishing February 6th 05 08:04 PM

On 6 Feb 2005 11:38:32 -0800, wrote:

Tom wrote:

I just got back in from the garage - two of the cells were dry and I
figured out why the battery was dead - somehow the ignition was turned
on.

Whoopsie! :)


~~ oh well ~~


Later,


Tom

********************

Hope you didn't have an hour meter wired to the ignition. We've all
heard the horror stories about snowbirds who come back north to find
3000 "hours" on a brand new boat. :-)


Really? Snowbirds? Pray tell - who might that have been? :)

Later,

Tom

Short Wave Sportfishing February 6th 05 08:07 PM

On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 19:44:10 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
Oh well, another 45 days until launch day.


45 days??? It'll be at least double that for me. Probably somewhere around
the 'Victoria Day' long weekend late May.


Middle of March if the ice cooperates maybe even sooner.

Whoo Hoo!!

Later,

Tom

Wayne.B February 6th 05 09:51 PM

On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 20:07:17 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Middle of March if the ice cooperates maybe even sooner.


===========================================

Ice is for drinks. You're living too far north.


K. Smith February 7th 05 10:27 AM

Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 20:07:17 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:


Middle of March if the ice cooperates maybe even sooner.



===========================================

Ice is for drinks. You're living too far north.



Sorry Tom confused it's "disconnected" & the ignition was on for
what??? 6-8 wks???

Regardless Tom is anyone going to mention that if the ignition has
"really" been on long enough to fry the battery, what are the
implications, if any at all, for the motors' systems????

Anyway maybe someone will address it???

K


So the Krause lie of the day??? Here ya go:-)

So just getting back to the Hatt 43 lie:-) What happened was at
least 2 of the NG people lived near where he "claimed" he did & said
they'd settle if he owned a Hatt 43 or not by simply calling around &
taking a look:-) After all his usual abuse & fained "privacy" concerns
it was starting to look like his lying hide was about to be hung out to
dry:-)

This would be more than his ego could even contemplate, so in his
desperation not to be caught red handed (again:-)) he then lied again;
which despite it being totally unbelievable it allowed his damaged mind
to think he was still the big man his lies had created:-)

Doubt save to organise employment wrecking union strokes he's never
even been to Florida but he desperately needed to get away from the lie
mansion & the lie Hatt 43:-)





We had the Hatteras for two years. Last year, out of the cold clear,

a broker approached me with an offer to buy. Our continued Florida
lifestyle was somewhat up in the air, because the two breadwinners
hereabouts were about to be offered long-term but temporary assignments
they could not refuse in the Washington, D.C., area. So, after being
romanced a little, we sold the Hatt for almost precisely what we paid

for it. Not bad, after two full years of use. And I mean full years. So,
we didn't "make" any money off the Hatt, but we didn't lose any, either.
The proceeds were prudently invested.




wtf February 7th 05 04:37 PM

If the battery is buldgeing out, it most likely lost it's charge and
froze... If you want to see a real big bang, put a boost on it while it
is still frozen. ;) Replace it, it is shot anyway.
Scotty


Harry Krause February 7th 05 04:47 PM

On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 16:20:44 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

It is such a nice day, I decided to open up the Ranger and check
things out - you know - just look around the boat, make sure things
are ok - you know, get ready for March 1st when the cover comes off
and the bottom is painted and stuff? :)

Good damn thing I did - the starting battery had a bulge in the side
and looked like it was about to fail. Pulled that sucker out in a
hurry. I've got the trolling motor batteries on slow charge right
now.

Can't figure out what happened to the starting battery - it was
disconnected and was fully charged before I put it away for the
winter. Never seen that happen before.

Oh well, another 45 days until launch day.

I hope.

Later,

Tom


The acid lost its PH, and swelled because of the heat generated, while
doing so.

We replace alot of these in my marina (that I own) in the north, but
not so many in my other two marinas I own in the south.

Cold weather seems to play a part.


Short Wave Sportfishing February 7th 05 05:20 PM

On 7 Feb 2005 08:37:41 -0800, "wtf" wrote:

If the battery is buldgeing out, it most likely lost it's charge and
froze... If you want to see a real big bang, put a boost on it while it
is still frozen. ;) Replace it, it is shot anyway.


I have heard of that, but have never experienced it myself.

I imagine it would be a really big bang. :)

Later,

Tom

Harry Kruase February 8th 05 12:06 AM

yup,,

I remember nam,, acid all day long,, it was fun, I still blame some of my
mishaps today on the what happened to me back then,,,









"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 16:20:44 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

It is such a nice day, I decided to open up the Ranger and check
things out - you know - just look around the boat, make sure things
are ok - you know, get ready for March 1st when the cover comes off
and the bottom is painted and stuff? :)

Good damn thing I did - the starting battery had a bulge in the side
and looked like it was about to fail. Pulled that sucker out in a
hurry. I've got the trolling motor batteries on slow charge right
now.

Can't figure out what happened to the starting battery - it was
disconnected and was fully charged before I put it away for the
winter. Never seen that happen before.

Oh well, another 45 days until launch day.

I hope.

Later,

Tom


The acid lost its PH, and swelled because of the heat generated, while
doing so.

We replace alot of these in my marina (that I own) in the north, but
not so many in my other two marinas I own in the south.

Cold weather seems to play a part.




none February 8th 05 01:00 AM

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
It is such a nice day, I decided to open up the Ranger and check
things out - you know - just look around the boat, make sure things
are ok - you know, get ready for March 1st when the cover comes off
and the bottom is painted and stuff? :)

Good damn thing I did - the starting battery had a bulge in the side
and looked like it was about to fail. Pulled that sucker out in a
hurry. I've got the trolling motor batteries on slow charge right
now.

Can't figure out what happened to the starting battery - it was
disconnected and was fully charged before I put it away for the
winter. Never seen that happen before.


Sounds like that bat. is shot. Reverse charging, freezing, sometimes
over-charging can cause that "bulge" that you describe. Got a hydrometer?
Check your specific gravity. I'll bet it's not in spec.

From my notes -

MCA "Marine Cranking Amps" tested at 32* F.
CCA "Cold Cranking Amps" tested at 0* F.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Lead Antimony Alloy
1270 Full Charge specific gravity.
Charged battery = 1.250 to 1.270 specific gravity.

Room temp. climate adjusting:
80* F. is the norm
Any 10* F. up or down, use the adjustment of .004

You are allowed .040 specific gravity variance between the cells. And there
are other tests.

Best of luck.



wtf February 9th 05 04:44 PM


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On 7 Feb 2005 08:37:41 -0800, "wtf"

wrote:

If the battery is buldgeing out, it most likely lost it's charge and
froze... If you want to see a real big bang, put a boost on it while

it
is still frozen. ;) Replace it, it is shot anyway.


I have heard of that, but have never experienced it myself.

I imagine it would be a really big bang. :)

Later,

Tom


Pretty good one. Driving wreckers once, I put the cables on a frozen
battery, always checked, but this time something I missed. I am a
stickler so I stood in behind the hood, hit the boost, and bang, it
went up. Flash about 3-4 feet, loud as hell, and it blew some of the
air filter and mass air flow sensor ritght out of its wiring and landed
about 20 yards away... If I were to guess, it probably had the power of
real, old time, M-80. Anyway, it is not a myth, they can indeed blow
up. The point is, never put a boost on a bulging battery in the cold.

On another note, sort of related, gas and battery acid do burst into
flames when they meet too. Had a guy drive an old Chevette into the
dealership one day. One guy was looking at the battery cells, another
was checking for fuel pressure to the carb... the key was turned, a
squirt of fuel went into the open battery cell and immediately burst
into flames, flash fire. What happened after that is fuzzy as I don't
burn for anyones Chevette, I was in Shulties parking lot across the
street when they found the fire extinguishers... I sport a bit of a
ponytail, I don't do fire. ;)

Later, Scotty



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