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in article K53Sd.37676$t46.25480@trndny04, No Spam at
wrote on 2/20/05 11:42 AM: just after Bush stole his first presidency. Bush won the election by every recount so far - have you found a different result? I would like to see it. I am not some blind follower of Bush but I'm getting tired of this stupid "Bush stole the election" crap. What happened in Florida was absurd, but the result has been verify many times. ??? Perhaps you are unaware that the the Republicam members of the Supreme Court stopped the recount. As to what every recount so far has to say, it depends on who you ask. For every http://www.bushwatch.com/gorebush.htm there's a http://rightwingnews.com/john/tantrum.php "Dave Manby" wrote in message ... I always loved coming into the states - especially through Miami Florida just after Bush stole his first presidency. You, a non American, are asked to fill in several forms with boxes to fill. I always feel like asking if they want a tick cross or Chad and who is going to count these and anyway they are a good reflection of the intelligence of the CIA terrorism controls and other forms of attempted control. Among the questions you are asked are 1 Are you a member of a terrorist organisation? 2 Are you addicted to Narcotics 3 Were you a member of the Nazi party between xxxx and xxxx. The rest are just as inane. Apparently the reason for asking you these questions is so that they can do you for lying if you are caught! It is no wonder the phrase dumb America has arisen! Surely the answer to all this is to look at the cause of the terrorism and attempt to answer the questions raised. Palestine has for too long been ignored and it was not till many years of terrorism that the rest of the world started looking at the plight of the refugees in Gaza and the other OCCUPIED by Israel territories. Al Quaeda has its own agenda and maybe looking at the reason why they have picked on the west in general and the USA in particular would help solve the threat for better than trying to impose Western ideals on reluctant people. I would argue that this has created more terrorism than it has prevented. In message , Scott Weiser writes A Usenet persona calling itself Michael Daly wrote: On 16-Feb-2005, Scott Weiser wrote: The fact that Canada accepts more refugees than the US (but then, most countries are more open to help others than the US) has nothing to do with terrorism. Unfortunately, you are mistaken. Proof? Refugees come from around the world. Terrorists tend to be well funded and arrive carrying briefcases. No, they come looking like refugees, and acting like refugees, so that they can move about freely and without scrutiny. One can get to Toronto without any scrutiny, You've never arrived in Toronto from anywhere, right? There is such a thing as customs and immigration. Canada's border is _not_ open. It's more open that it ought to be. and then it's a short car trip across the border to the US Which only proves that the US can't control its borders. Well, "will not" is more accurate. We can, we just choose not to. You wouldn't like it at all if we chose to. Neither would Mexico. That, however, is precisely what I (along with many others) are suggesting we need to do. You won't like it if we do. Don't blame anyone for your problems. I'm not blaming anyone, I'm merely suggesting that if Canada doesn't do its part to prevent infiltration by terrorists, the US may have no choice but to close the border, which will wreck your economy. The 9/11 terrorists arrived in the US thru US ports of entry, not thru Canada. And yet other terrorists arrive through Canada. Case in point: the terrorist with a vehicle full of explosives caught entering the US from Vancouver at Port Angeles just prior to the Millennium celebration who planned to blow up the Space Needle in Seattle. He was caught by an alert Border Patrol agent. Others have certainly slipped in from Canada as well. -- Dave Manby Details of the Coruh river and my book "Many Rivers To Run" at http://www.dmanby.demon.co.uk |
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