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JohnH January 27th 05 10:27 PM

( OT) Insult to injury
 
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:10:34 GMT, "Jim," wrote:

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20...eed/print.html

Jan. 27, 2005 | WASHINGTON -- Most patients at the Walter Reed Army
Medical Center in Washington have a lot on their minds: the war they
just fought, the injuries they came home with, the future that lies
ahead. The last thing a wounded soldier needs to worry about is where
the next meal is coming from. But for hundreds of Walter Reed patients,
that's a real concern. Starting this month, the Army has started making
some wounded soldiers pay for the food they eat at the hospital.


I spent three months in Walter Reed. During that time, I paid for my
meals. At the same time I was drawing a Subsistence Allowance. I did
not expect that the Army should give me money to buy my food, and then
also give me the food I was supposed to buy.

But hey, liberal whining makes a good story for the anti-Bush crowd.
When Clinton was in office, the rules were the same.

Now, I really wonder why the names were withheld.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

Curtis CCR January 28th 05 01:35 AM


JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:10:34 GMT, "Jim," wrote:

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20...eed/print.html

Jan. 27, 2005 | WASHINGTON -- Most patients at the Walter Reed

Army
Medical Center in Washington have a lot on their minds: the war they


just fought, the injuries they came home with, the future that lies
ahead. The last thing a wounded soldier needs to worry about is

where
the next meal is coming from. But for hundreds of Walter Reed

patients,
that's a real concern. Starting this month, the Army has started

making
some wounded soldiers pay for the food they eat at the hospital.


I spent three months in Walter Reed. During that time, I paid for my
meals. At the same time I was drawing a Subsistence Allowance. I did
not expect that the Army should give me money to buy my food, and

then
also give me the food I was supposed to buy.

But hey, liberal whining makes a good story for the anti-Bush crowd.
When Clinton was in office, the rules were the same.

Now, I really wonder why the names were withheld.


I was not in a hospital, but I was on BAS, a.k.a. separate rations,
when I was in the military. If I ate in a chow hall I had to pay for
my meals while others ate free.

I was reveiving an extra allowance in my paycheck (IIRC it was about
$150/mo) instead of getting free meals at the chow hall. And the cost
of those meals I ate in a chow hall was still subsidized.

When I went to Gulf War #1 I lost my BAS. They fed me on base, so they
didn't need to pay me a hundred-something bucks a month for food. The
left-wing hysterics would have called that a slap in the face, wouldn't
they? Taking away the poor soldier's food allowance when he is sent to
war. But they either feed you, or pay you to get your own food. But
not both.

And the way the article is written is typical. Create an image in the
reader's head of a paralyzed amputee getting his dinner check while he
lies in a hospital bed. Don't explain that this doesn't apply to
inpatients until the reader is frothing at the mouth and blind with
rage.

Then there's that $7.50 a day "combat pay," or whatever it's called
now. I listened to Randi Rhodes (one of the Air America crowd)
yesterday try to pass that off as what soldier's get paid...period.
She did not attempt to clarify that it was additional pay. She was
implying that soldiers are only paid $7.50 a day. And a good portion
of her audience will think just that. If she is ever called on it, I
can predict the way she will weasel out of it.... "I never said that
was their total pay... I just said that is was we pay them for getting
shot at... if the audience didn't understand that, they need to listen
more carefully..."

Why would I listen to Randi Rhodes? Why would I listen to Limbaugh?
Mostly for the entertainment value. But also because two halves make a
hole. Since right wing radio only gives you the half of the truth that
suits them, and left wing radio only gives you the other half tha suits
them, your only *chance* of of getting close to the whole story is to
listen to both.


JimH January 28th 05 01:45 AM


"Curtis CCR" wrote in message
oups.com...

JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:10:34 GMT, "Jim," wrote:

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20...eed/print.html

Jan. 27, 2005 | WASHINGTON -- Most patients at the Walter Reed

Army
Medical Center in Washington have a lot on their minds: the war they


just fought, the injuries they came home with, the future that lies
ahead. The last thing a wounded soldier needs to worry about is

where
the next meal is coming from. But for hundreds of Walter Reed

patients,
that's a real concern. Starting this month, the Army has started

making
some wounded soldiers pay for the food they eat at the hospital.


I spent three months in Walter Reed. During that time, I paid for my
meals. At the same time I was drawing a Subsistence Allowance. I did
not expect that the Army should give me money to buy my food, and

then
also give me the food I was supposed to buy.

But hey, liberal whining makes a good story for the anti-Bush crowd.
When Clinton was in office, the rules were the same.

Now, I really wonder why the names were withheld.


I was not in a hospital, but I was on BAS, a.k.a. separate rations,
when I was in the military. If I ate in a chow hall I had to pay for
my meals while others ate free.

I was reveiving an extra allowance in my paycheck (IIRC it was about
$150/mo) instead of getting free meals at the chow hall. And the cost
of those meals I ate in a chow hall was still subsidized.

When I went to Gulf War #1 I lost my BAS. They fed me on base, so they
didn't need to pay me a hundred-something bucks a month for food. The
left-wing hysterics would have called that a slap in the face, wouldn't
they? Taking away the poor soldier's food allowance when he is sent to
war. But they either feed you, or pay you to get your own food. But
not both.

And the way the article is written is typical. Create an image in the
reader's head of a paralyzed amputee getting his dinner check while he
lies in a hospital bed. Don't explain that this doesn't apply to
inpatients until the reader is frothing at the mouth and blind with
rage.

Then there's that $7.50 a day "combat pay," or whatever it's called
now. I listened to Randi Rhodes (one of the Air America crowd)
yesterday try to pass that off as what soldier's get paid...period.
She did not attempt to clarify that it was additional pay. She was
implying that soldiers are only paid $7.50 a day. And a good portion
of her audience will think just that. If she is ever called on it, I
can predict the way she will weasel out of it.... "I never said that
was their total pay... I just said that is was we pay them for getting
shot at... if the audience didn't understand that, they need to listen
more carefully..."

Why would I listen to Randi Rhodes? Why would I listen to Limbaugh?
Mostly for the entertainment value. But also because two halves make a
hole. Since right wing radio only gives you the half of the truth that
suits them, and left wing radio only gives you the other half tha suits
them, your only *chance* of of getting close to the whole story is to
listen to both.


I hear you. Just another example of the libs spouting lies, professing them
as the truth, and supporting their entire argument around those lies.

Hey Chuck....sound familiar?



JohnH January 28th 05 12:37 PM

On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 19:54:16 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

JohnH wrote:

Trust me, Harry, the military has little respect for your kind either.

John H



Trust you?
Not a chance.


From the king of newsgroup liars, Harry. I wouldn't want your 'trust'
nor anything else you've got to offer. You've shown yourself to be a
despicable, ****ing liar.

The military has little respect for ****ing liars, Harry, which is
where you fall.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

JohnH January 28th 05 12:41 PM

On 27 Jan 2005 17:35:56 -0800, "Curtis CCR"
wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:10:34 GMT, "Jim," wrote:

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20...eed/print.html

Jan. 27, 2005 | WASHINGTON -- Most patients at the Walter Reed

Army
Medical Center in Washington have a lot on their minds: the war they


just fought, the injuries they came home with, the future that lies
ahead. The last thing a wounded soldier needs to worry about is

where
the next meal is coming from. But for hundreds of Walter Reed

patients,
that's a real concern. Starting this month, the Army has started

making
some wounded soldiers pay for the food they eat at the hospital.


I spent three months in Walter Reed. During that time, I paid for my
meals. At the same time I was drawing a Subsistence Allowance. I did
not expect that the Army should give me money to buy my food, and

then
also give me the food I was supposed to buy.

But hey, liberal whining makes a good story for the anti-Bush crowd.
When Clinton was in office, the rules were the same.

Now, I really wonder why the names were withheld.


I was not in a hospital, but I was on BAS, a.k.a. separate rations,
when I was in the military. If I ate in a chow hall I had to pay for
my meals while others ate free.

I was reveiving an extra allowance in my paycheck (IIRC it was about
$150/mo) instead of getting free meals at the chow hall. And the cost
of those meals I ate in a chow hall was still subsidized.

When I went to Gulf War #1 I lost my BAS. They fed me on base, so they
didn't need to pay me a hundred-something bucks a month for food. The
left-wing hysterics would have called that a slap in the face, wouldn't
they? Taking away the poor soldier's food allowance when he is sent to
war. But they either feed you, or pay you to get your own food. But
not both.

And the way the article is written is typical. Create an image in the
reader's head of a paralyzed amputee getting his dinner check while he
lies in a hospital bed. Don't explain that this doesn't apply to
inpatients until the reader is frothing at the mouth and blind with
rage.

Then there's that $7.50 a day "combat pay," or whatever it's called
now. I listened to Randi Rhodes (one of the Air America crowd)
yesterday try to pass that off as what soldier's get paid...period.
She did not attempt to clarify that it was additional pay. She was
implying that soldiers are only paid $7.50 a day. And a good portion
of her audience will think just that. If she is ever called on it, I
can predict the way she will weasel out of it.... "I never said that
was their total pay... I just said that is was we pay them for getting
shot at... if the audience didn't understand that, they need to listen
more carefully..."

Why would I listen to Randi Rhodes? Why would I listen to Limbaugh?
Mostly for the entertainment value. But also because two halves make a
hole. Since right wing radio only gives you the half of the truth that
suits them, and left wing radio only gives you the other half tha suits
them, your only *chance* of of getting close to the whole story is to
listen to both.


Several good points there. Notice that Jim, seems to have dropped out
of the discussion after his hyper-whine.

Friggin' civilians spouting lies to other friggin' civilians who'll
believe anything that's anti-administration!


John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

basskisser January 28th 05 01:12 PM


JohnH wrote:
On 27 Jan 2005 17:35:56 -0800, "Curtis CCR"
wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:10:34 GMT, "Jim,"

wrote:


http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20...eed/print.html

Jan. 27, 2005 | WASHINGTON -- Most patients at the Walter Reed

Army
Medical Center in Washington have a lot on their minds: the war

they

just fought, the injuries they came home with, the future that

lies
ahead. The last thing a wounded soldier needs to worry about is

where
the next meal is coming from. But for hundreds of Walter Reed

patients,
that's a real concern. Starting this month, the Army has started

making
some wounded soldiers pay for the food they eat at the hospital.


I spent three months in Walter Reed. During that time, I paid for

my
meals. At the same time I was drawing a Subsistence Allowance. I

did
not expect that the Army should give me money to buy my food, and

then
also give me the food I was supposed to buy.

But hey, liberal whining makes a good story for the anti-Bush

crowd.
When Clinton was in office, the rules were the same.

Now, I really wonder why the names were withheld.


I was not in a hospital, but I was on BAS, a.k.a. separate rations,
when I was in the military. If I ate in a chow hall I had to pay

for
my meals while others ate free.

I was reveiving an extra allowance in my paycheck (IIRC it was about
$150/mo) instead of getting free meals at the chow hall. And the

cost
of those meals I ate in a chow hall was still subsidized.

When I went to Gulf War #1 I lost my BAS. They fed me on base, so

they
didn't need to pay me a hundred-something bucks a month for food.

The
left-wing hysterics would have called that a slap in the face,

wouldn't
they? Taking away the poor soldier's food allowance when he is sent

to
war. But they either feed you, or pay you to get your own food.

But
not both.

And the way the article is written is typical. Create an image in

the
reader's head of a paralyzed amputee getting his dinner check while

he
lies in a a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=hospital%20bed"
onmouseover="window.status='hospital bed'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"hospital bed/a. Don't
explain that this doesn't apply to
inpatients until the reader is frothing at the mouth and blind with
rage.

Then there's that $7.50 a day "combat pay," or whatever it's called
now. I listened to Randi Rhodes (one of the Air America crowd)
yesterday try to pass that off as what soldier's get paid...period.
She did not attempt to clarify that it was additional pay. She was
implying that soldiers are only paid $7.50 a day. And a good

portion
of her audience will think just that. If she is ever called on it,

I
can predict the way she will weasel out of it.... "I never said

that
was their total pay... I just said that is was we pay them for

getting
shot at... if the audience didn't understand that, they need to

listen
more carefully..."

Why would I listen to Randi Rhodes? Why would I listen to Limbaugh?
Mostly for the entertainment value. But also because two halves

make a
hole. Since right wing radio only gives you the half of the truth

that
suits them, and left wing radio only gives you the other half tha

suits
them, your only *chance* of of getting close to the whole story is

to
listen to both.


Several good points there. Notice that Jim, seems to have dropped out
of the discussion after his hyper-whine.

Friggin' civilians spouting lies to other friggin' civilians who'll
believe anything that's anti-administration!

Yeah, damned civilians. Who do they think they are? Jeez, you'd think
that they owned the corporations that keep this country going! You'd
also think they made up the bulk of the population! Who to hell do they
think they are? Hell, they CAN'T possibly know enough to be able to
take information given to them and ascertain whether or not it's
viable. Damn it, any washed up ex-soldier in Maryland could tell them
that they can't possibly have any brains if they don't goose step to
the Bush Reich.


JimH January 28th 05 01:15 PM


"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JohnH wrote:
On 27 Jan 2005 17:35:56 -0800, "Curtis CCR"
wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:10:34 GMT, "Jim,"

wrote:


http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20...eed/print.html

Jan. 27, 2005 | WASHINGTON -- Most patients at the Walter Reed
Army
Medical Center in Washington have a lot on their minds: the war

they

just fought, the injuries they came home with, the future that

lies
ahead. The last thing a wounded soldier needs to worry about is
where
the next meal is coming from. But for hundreds of Walter Reed
patients,
that's a real concern. Starting this month, the Army has started
making
some wounded soldiers pay for the food they eat at the hospital.


I spent three months in Walter Reed. During that time, I paid for

my
meals. At the same time I was drawing a Subsistence Allowance. I

did
not expect that the Army should give me money to buy my food, and
then
also give me the food I was supposed to buy.

But hey, liberal whining makes a good story for the anti-Bush

crowd.
When Clinton was in office, the rules were the same.

Now, I really wonder why the names were withheld.

I was not in a hospital, but I was on BAS, a.k.a. separate rations,
when I was in the military. If I ate in a chow hall I had to pay

for
my meals while others ate free.

I was reveiving an extra allowance in my paycheck (IIRC it was about
$150/mo) instead of getting free meals at the chow hall. And the

cost
of those meals I ate in a chow hall was still subsidized.

When I went to Gulf War #1 I lost my BAS. They fed me on base, so

they
didn't need to pay me a hundred-something bucks a month for food.

The
left-wing hysterics would have called that a slap in the face,

wouldn't
they? Taking away the poor soldier's food allowance when he is sent

to
war. But they either feed you, or pay you to get your own food.

But
not both.

And the way the article is written is typical. Create an image in

the
reader's head of a paralyzed amputee getting his dinner check while

he
lies in a a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=hospital%20bed"
onmouseover="window.status='hospital bed'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"hospital bed/a. Don't
explain that this doesn't apply to
inpatients until the reader is frothing at the mouth and blind with
rage.

Then there's that $7.50 a day "combat pay," or whatever it's called
now. I listened to Randi Rhodes (one of the Air America crowd)
yesterday try to pass that off as what soldier's get paid...period.
She did not attempt to clarify that it was additional pay. She was
implying that soldiers are only paid $7.50 a day. And a good

portion
of her audience will think just that. If she is ever called on it,

I
can predict the way she will weasel out of it.... "I never said

that
was their total pay... I just said that is was we pay them for

getting
shot at... if the audience didn't understand that, they need to

listen
more carefully..."

Why would I listen to Randi Rhodes? Why would I listen to Limbaugh?
Mostly for the entertainment value. But also because two halves

make a
hole. Since right wing radio only gives you the half of the truth

that
suits them, and left wing radio only gives you the other half tha

suits
them, your only *chance* of of getting close to the whole story is

to
listen to both.


Several good points there. Notice that Jim, seems to have dropped out
of the discussion after his hyper-whine.

Friggin' civilians spouting lies to other friggin' civilians who'll
believe anything that's anti-administration!

Yeah, damned civilians. Who do they think they are? Jeez, you'd think
that they owned the corporations that keep this country going! You'd
also think they made up the bulk of the population! Who to hell do they
think they are? Hell, they CAN'T possibly know enough to be able to
take information given to them and ascertain whether or not it's
viable. Damn it, any washed up ex-soldier in Maryland could tell them
that they can't possibly have any brains if they don't goose step to
the Bush Reich.


Did you complete your homework assignment Bassy?



basskisser January 28th 05 01:24 PM


JimH wrote:

Did you complete your homework assignment Bassy?


Um, I worked quite late into the night, if that's what you want to
know. You see, you nor no one else gives me an "assignment". I worked
late, have to go to a match this weekend in Nashville, so don't want to
be burdened with work issues.


JimH January 28th 05 01:28 PM


"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:

Did you complete your homework assignment Bassy?


Um, I worked quite late into the night, if that's what you want to
know. You see, you nor no one else gives me an "assignment". I worked
late, have to go to a match this weekend in Nashville, so don't want to
be burdened with work issues.


So you did not find the clue that you lost a while back. I guess you still
don't have a clue yet. Maybe try again tonight to find it.



JohnH January 28th 05 01:58 PM

On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 07:46:43 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

JohnH wrote:


The military has little respect for ****ing liars, Harry, which is
where you fall.

John H


Awwww....widdle dwunk Herring is upset.

Actually, Herring, the military establishment is all about lying. It
does a very good job of it, and it usually takes really tough
investigations to bring out the truth.


Harry, as you have refined the art of lying, you should know. But,
since you have no knowledge of the military, it's just more ****ing
lies. You're a liar, Krause, but at least b'asskisser believes you.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

JohnH January 28th 05 01:59 PM

On 28 Jan 2005 05:12:50 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On 27 Jan 2005 17:35:56 -0800, "Curtis CCR"
wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:10:34 GMT, "Jim,"

wrote:


http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20...eed/print.html

Jan. 27, 2005 | WASHINGTON -- Most patients at the Walter Reed
Army
Medical Center in Washington have a lot on their minds: the war

they

just fought, the injuries they came home with, the future that

lies
ahead. The last thing a wounded soldier needs to worry about is
where
the next meal is coming from. But for hundreds of Walter Reed
patients,
that's a real concern. Starting this month, the Army has started
making
some wounded soldiers pay for the food they eat at the hospital.


I spent three months in Walter Reed. During that time, I paid for

my
meals. At the same time I was drawing a Subsistence Allowance. I

did
not expect that the Army should give me money to buy my food, and
then
also give me the food I was supposed to buy.

But hey, liberal whining makes a good story for the anti-Bush

crowd.
When Clinton was in office, the rules were the same.

Now, I really wonder why the names were withheld.

I was not in a hospital, but I was on BAS, a.k.a. separate rations,
when I was in the military. If I ate in a chow hall I had to pay

for
my meals while others ate free.

I was reveiving an extra allowance in my paycheck (IIRC it was about
$150/mo) instead of getting free meals at the chow hall. And the

cost
of those meals I ate in a chow hall was still subsidized.

When I went to Gulf War #1 I lost my BAS. They fed me on base, so

they
didn't need to pay me a hundred-something bucks a month for food.

The
left-wing hysterics would have called that a slap in the face,

wouldn't
they? Taking away the poor soldier's food allowance when he is sent

to
war. But they either feed you, or pay you to get your own food.

But
not both.

And the way the article is written is typical. Create an image in

the
reader's head of a paralyzed amputee getting his dinner check while

he
lies in a a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=hospital%20bed"
onmouseover="window.status='hospital bed'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"hospital bed/a. Don't
explain that this doesn't apply to
inpatients until the reader is frothing at the mouth and blind with
rage.

Then there's that $7.50 a day "combat pay," or whatever it's called
now. I listened to Randi Rhodes (one of the Air America crowd)
yesterday try to pass that off as what soldier's get paid...period.
She did not attempt to clarify that it was additional pay. She was
implying that soldiers are only paid $7.50 a day. And a good

portion
of her audience will think just that. If she is ever called on it,

I
can predict the way she will weasel out of it.... "I never said

that
was their total pay... I just said that is was we pay them for

getting
shot at... if the audience didn't understand that, they need to

listen
more carefully..."

Why would I listen to Randi Rhodes? Why would I listen to Limbaugh?
Mostly for the entertainment value. But also because two halves

make a
hole. Since right wing radio only gives you the half of the truth

that
suits them, and left wing radio only gives you the other half tha

suits
them, your only *chance* of of getting close to the whole story is

to
listen to both.


Several good points there. Notice that Jim, seems to have dropped out
of the discussion after his hyper-whine.

Friggin' civilians spouting lies to other friggin' civilians who'll
believe anything that's anti-administration!

Yeah, damned civilians. Who do they think they are? Jeez, you'd think
that they owned the corporations that keep this country going! You'd
also think they made up the bulk of the population! Who to hell do they
think they are? Hell, they CAN'T possibly know enough to be able to
take information given to them and ascertain whether or not it's
viable. Damn it, any washed up ex-soldier in Maryland could tell them
that they can't possibly have any brains if they don't goose step to
the Bush Reich.


You're learning.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

JohnH January 28th 05 02:01 PM

On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:14:39 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

basskisser wrote:
JohnH wrote:



Friggin' civilians spouting lies to other friggin' civilians who'll
believe anything that's anti-administration!


Yeah, damned civilians. Who do they think they are? Jeez, you'd think
that they owned the corporations that keep this country going! You'd
also think they made up the bulk of the population! Who to hell do they
think they are? Hell, they CAN'T possibly know enough to be able to
take information given to them and ascertain whether or not it's
viable. Damn it, any washed up ex-soldier in Maryland could tell them
that they can't possibly have any brains if they don't goose step to
the Bush Reich.


Herring couldn't make it in the civilian world, which is why he resents
civilians commenting on his former pack of good old boys. But don't push
him too far...he'll fall off the wagon and end up back in the hospital.


Harry, you're a ****ing liar trying hard to come up with insults. Keep
working at it, you liar.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

basskisser January 28th 05 04:07 PM


JohnH wrote:
On 28 Jan 2005 05:12:50 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On 27 Jan 2005 17:35:56 -0800, "Curtis CCR"


wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:10:34 GMT, "Jim,"

wrote:


http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20...eed/print.html

Jan. 27, 2005 | WASHINGTON -- Most patients at the Walter

Reed
Army
Medical Center in Washington have a lot on their minds: the

war
they

just fought, the injuries they came home with, the future that

lies
ahead. The last thing a wounded soldier needs to worry about

is
where
the next meal is coming from. But for hundreds of Walter Reed
patients,
that's a real concern. Starting this month, the Army has

started
making
some wounded soldiers pay for the food they eat at the

hospital.


I spent three months in Walter Reed. During that time, I paid

for
my
meals. At the same time I was drawing a Subsistence Allowance.

I
did
not expect that the Army should give me money to buy my food,

and
then
also give me the food I was supposed to buy.

But hey, liberal whining makes a good story for the anti-Bush

crowd.
When Clinton was in office, the rules were the same.

Now, I really wonder why the names were withheld.

I was not in a hospital, but I was on BAS, a.k.a. separate

rations,
when I was in the military. If I ate in a chow hall I had to pay

for
my meals while others ate free.

I was reveiving an extra allowance in my paycheck (IIRC it was

about
$150/mo) instead of getting free meals at the chow hall. And the

cost
of those meals I ate in a chow hall was still subsidized.

When I went to Gulf War #1 I lost my BAS. They fed me on base,

so
they
didn't need to pay me a hundred-something bucks a month for food.

The
left-wing hysterics would have called that a slap in the face,

wouldn't
they? Taking away the poor soldier's food allowance when he is

sent
to
war. But they either feed you, or pay you to get your own food.

But
not both.

And the way the article is written is typical. Create an image

in
the
reader's head of a paralyzed amputee getting his dinner check

while
he
lies in a a


href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=hospital%20bed"
onmouseover="window.status='a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=hospital%20bed"
onmouseover="window.status='hospital bed'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"hospital bed/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"hospital bed/a. Don't
explain that this doesn't apply to
inpatients until the reader is frothing at the mouth and blind

with
rage.

Then there's that $7.50 a day "combat pay," or whatever it's

called
now. I listened to Randi Rhodes (one of the Air America crowd)
yesterday try to pass that off as what soldier's get

paid...period.
She did not attempt to clarify that it was additional pay. She

was
implying that soldiers are only paid $7.50 a day. And a good

portion
of her audience will think just that. If she is ever called on

it,
I
can predict the way she will weasel out of it.... "I never said

that
was their total pay... I just said that is was we pay them for

getting
shot at... if the audience didn't understand that, they need to

listen
more carefully..."

Why would I listen to Randi Rhodes? Why would I listen to

Limbaugh?
Mostly for the entertainment value. But also because two halves

make a
hole. Since right wing radio only gives you the half of the

truth
that
suits them, and left wing radio only gives you the other half tha

suits
them, your only *chance* of of getting close to the whole story

is
to
listen to both.

Several good points there. Notice that Jim, seems to have dropped

out
of the discussion after his hyper-whine.

Friggin' civilians spouting lies to other friggin' civilians

who'll
believe anything that's anti-administration!

Yeah, damned civilians. Who do they think they are? Jeez, you'd

think
that they owned the corporations that keep this country going! You'd
also think they made up the bulk of the population! Who to hell do

they
think they are? Hell, they CAN'T possibly know enough to be able to
take information given to them and ascertain whether or not it's
viable. Damn it, any washed up ex-soldier in Maryland could tell

them
that they can't possibly have any brains if they don't goose step to
the Bush Reich.


You're learning.

John H


Yes, and please, let us remember, you ARE one. Are you REALLY so narrow
minded that you believe that the people that live in, elect officials
in, work in, provide 99.999% of the workforce in, pay the same in
taxes, run the educational systems, and on and on, don't know anything,
and some army grunt with an 8th grade education should tell THEM how do
think????


basskisser January 28th 05 04:08 PM


JohnH wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:14:39 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

basskisser wrote:
JohnH wrote:



Friggin' civilians spouting lies to other friggin' civilians

who'll
believe anything that's anti-administration!


Yeah, damned civilians. Who do they think they are? Jeez, you'd

think
that they owned the corporations that keep this country going!

You'd
also think they made up the bulk of the population! Who to hell do

they
think they are? Hell, they CAN'T possibly know enough to be able

to
take information given to them and ascertain whether or not it's
viable. Damn it, any washed up ex-soldier in Maryland could tell

them
that they can't possibly have any brains if they don't goose step

to
the Bush Reich.


Herring couldn't make it in the civilian world, which is why he

resents
civilians commenting on his former pack of good old boys. But don't

push
him too far...he'll fall off the wagon and end up back in the

hospital.

Harry, you're a ****ing liar trying hard to come up with insults.

Keep
working at it, you liar.

John H

Hell, I take back what I said about all of your class being low. You
don't even have LOW CLASS. That would be an insult to low class people.


JohnH January 28th 05 07:24 PM

On 28 Jan 2005 08:08:48 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:14:39 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

basskisser wrote:
JohnH wrote:



Friggin' civilians spouting lies to other friggin' civilians

who'll
believe anything that's anti-administration!


Yeah, damned civilians. Who do they think they are? Jeez, you'd

think
that they owned the corporations that keep this country going!

You'd
also think they made up the bulk of the population! Who to hell do

they
think they are? Hell, they CAN'T possibly know enough to be able

to
take information given to them and ascertain whether or not it's
viable. Damn it, any washed up ex-soldier in Maryland could tell

them
that they can't possibly have any brains if they don't goose step

to
the Bush Reich.


Herring couldn't make it in the civilian world, which is why he

resents
civilians commenting on his former pack of good old boys. But don't

push
him too far...he'll fall off the wagon and end up back in the

hospital.

Harry, you're a ****ing liar trying hard to come up with insults.

Keep
working at it, you liar.

John H

Hell, I take back what I said about all of your class being low. You
don't even have LOW CLASS. That would be an insult to low class people.


Don't feel too insulted, b'asskisser.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

JohnH January 28th 05 07:26 PM

On 28 Jan 2005 08:07:24 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On 28 Jan 2005 05:12:50 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On 27 Jan 2005 17:35:56 -0800, "Curtis CCR"


wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:10:34 GMT, "Jim,"
wrote:


http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20...eed/print.html

Jan. 27, 2005 | WASHINGTON -- Most patients at the Walter

Reed
Army
Medical Center in Washington have a lot on their minds: the

war
they

just fought, the injuries they came home with, the future that
lies
ahead. The last thing a wounded soldier needs to worry about

is
where
the next meal is coming from. But for hundreds of Walter Reed
patients,
that's a real concern. Starting this month, the Army has

started
making
some wounded soldiers pay for the food they eat at the

hospital.


I spent three months in Walter Reed. During that time, I paid

for
my
meals. At the same time I was drawing a Subsistence Allowance.

I
did
not expect that the Army should give me money to buy my food,

and
then
also give me the food I was supposed to buy.

But hey, liberal whining makes a good story for the anti-Bush
crowd.
When Clinton was in office, the rules were the same.

Now, I really wonder why the names were withheld.

I was not in a hospital, but I was on BAS, a.k.a. separate

rations,
when I was in the military. If I ate in a chow hall I had to pay
for
my meals while others ate free.

I was reveiving an extra allowance in my paycheck (IIRC it was

about
$150/mo) instead of getting free meals at the chow hall. And the
cost
of those meals I ate in a chow hall was still subsidized.

When I went to Gulf War #1 I lost my BAS. They fed me on base,

so
they
didn't need to pay me a hundred-something bucks a month for food.
The
left-wing hysterics would have called that a slap in the face,
wouldn't
they? Taking away the poor soldier's food allowance when he is

sent
to
war. But they either feed you, or pay you to get your own food.
But
not both.

And the way the article is written is typical. Create an image

in
the
reader's head of a paralyzed amputee getting his dinner check

while
he
lies in a a


href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=hospital%20bed"
onmouseover="window.status='a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=hospital%20bed"
onmouseover="window.status='hospital bed'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"hospital bed/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"hospital bed/a. Don't
explain that this doesn't apply to
inpatients until the reader is frothing at the mouth and blind

with
rage.

Then there's that $7.50 a day "combat pay," or whatever it's

called
now. I listened to Randi Rhodes (one of the Air America crowd)
yesterday try to pass that off as what soldier's get

paid...period.
She did not attempt to clarify that it was additional pay. She

was
implying that soldiers are only paid $7.50 a day. And a good
portion
of her audience will think just that. If she is ever called on

it,
I
can predict the way she will weasel out of it.... "I never said
that
was their total pay... I just said that is was we pay them for
getting
shot at... if the audience didn't understand that, they need to
listen
more carefully..."

Why would I listen to Randi Rhodes? Why would I listen to

Limbaugh?
Mostly for the entertainment value. But also because two halves
make a
hole. Since right wing radio only gives you the half of the

truth
that
suits them, and left wing radio only gives you the other half tha
suits
them, your only *chance* of of getting close to the whole story

is
to
listen to both.

Several good points there. Notice that Jim, seems to have dropped

out
of the discussion after his hyper-whine.

Friggin' civilians spouting lies to other friggin' civilians

who'll
believe anything that's anti-administration!

Yeah, damned civilians. Who do they think they are? Jeez, you'd

think
that they owned the corporations that keep this country going! You'd
also think they made up the bulk of the population! Who to hell do

they
think they are? Hell, they CAN'T possibly know enough to be able to
take information given to them and ascertain whether or not it's
viable. Damn it, any washed up ex-soldier in Maryland could tell

them
that they can't possibly have any brains if they don't goose step to
the Bush Reich.


You're learning.

John H


Yes, and please, let us remember, you ARE one. Are you REALLY so narrow
minded that you believe that the people that live in, elect officials
in, work in, provide 99.999% of the workforce in, pay the same in
taxes, run the educational systems, and on and on, don't know anything,
and some army grunt with an 8th grade education should tell THEM how do
think????


Are you bragging about your education again?
John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

basskisser January 28th 05 07:30 PM


JohnH wrote:
On 28 Jan 2005 08:07:24 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On 28 Jan 2005 05:12:50 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On 27 Jan 2005 17:35:56 -0800, "Curtis CCR"


wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:10:34 GMT, "Jim,"


wrote:



http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20...eed/print.html

Jan. 27, 2005 | WASHINGTON -- Most patients at the Walter

Reed
Army
Medical Center in Washington have a lot on their minds: the

war
they

just fought, the injuries they came home with, the future

that
lies
ahead. The last thing a wounded soldier needs to worry

about
is
where
the next meal is coming from. But for hundreds of Walter

Reed
patients,
that's a real concern. Starting this month, the Army has

started
making
some wounded soldiers pay for the food they eat at the

hospital.


I spent three months in Walter Reed. During that time, I

paid
for
my
meals. At the same time I was drawing a Subsistence

Allowance.
I
did
not expect that the Army should give me money to buy my

food,
and
then
also give me the food I was supposed to buy.

But hey, liberal whining makes a good story for the

anti-Bush
crowd.
When Clinton was in office, the rules were the same.

Now, I really wonder why the names were withheld.

I was not in a hospital, but I was on BAS, a.k.a. separate

rations,
when I was in the military. If I ate in a chow hall I had to

pay
for
my meals while others ate free.

I was reveiving an extra allowance in my paycheck (IIRC it was

about
$150/mo) instead of getting free meals at the chow hall. And

the
cost
of those meals I ate in a chow hall was still subsidized.

When I went to Gulf War #1 I lost my BAS. They fed me on

base,
so
they
didn't need to pay me a hundred-something bucks a month for

food.
The
left-wing hysterics would have called that a slap in the face,
wouldn't
they? Taking away the poor soldier's food allowance when he

is
sent
to
war. But they either feed you, or pay you to get your own

food.
But
not both.

And the way the article is written is typical. Create an

image
in
the
reader's head of a paralyzed amputee getting his dinner check

while
he
lies in a a


href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=hospital%20bed"
onmouseover="window.status='a


href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=hospital%20bed"
onmouseover="window.status='a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=hospital%20bed"
onmouseover="window.status='hospital bed'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"hospital bed/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"hospital bed/a';

return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"hospital bed/a.

Don't
explain that this doesn't apply to
inpatients until the reader is frothing at the mouth and blind

with
rage.

Then there's that $7.50 a day "combat pay," or whatever it's

called
now. I listened to Randi Rhodes (one of the Air America

crowd)
yesterday try to pass that off as what soldier's get

paid...period.
She did not attempt to clarify that it was additional pay.

She
was
implying that soldiers are only paid $7.50 a day. And a good
portion
of her audience will think just that. If she is ever called

on
it,
I
can predict the way she will weasel out of it.... "I never

said
that
was their total pay... I just said that is was we pay them

for
getting
shot at... if the audience didn't understand that, they need

to
listen
more carefully..."

Why would I listen to Randi Rhodes? Why would I listen to

Limbaugh?
Mostly for the entertainment value. But also because two

halves
make a
hole. Since right wing radio only gives you the half of the

truth
that
suits them, and left wing radio only gives you the other half

tha
suits
them, your only *chance* of of getting close to the whole

story
is
to
listen to both.

Several good points there. Notice that Jim, seems to have

dropped
out
of the discussion after his hyper-whine.

Friggin' civilians spouting lies to other friggin' civilians

who'll
believe anything that's anti-administration!

Yeah, damned civilians. Who do they think they are? Jeez, you'd

think
that they owned the corporations that keep this country going!

You'd
also think they made up the bulk of the population! Who to hell

do
they
think they are? Hell, they CAN'T possibly know enough to be able

to
take information given to them and ascertain whether or not it's
viable. Damn it, any washed up ex-soldier in Maryland could tell

them
that they can't possibly have any brains if they don't goose step

to
the Bush Reich.

You're learning.

John H


Yes, and please, let us remember, you ARE one. Are you REALLY so

narrow
minded that you believe that the people that live in, elect

officials
in, work in, provide 99.999% of the workforce in, pay the same in
taxes, run the educational systems, and on and on, don't know

anything,
and some army grunt with an 8th grade education should tell THEM how

do
think????


Are you bragging about your education again?
John H

Gee, I was never IN the armed forces.......wonder who was, and brags
about it....OH, that's YOU!!!!!!


basskisser January 28th 05 07:30 PM


JohnH wrote:
On 28 Jan 2005 08:07:24 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On 28 Jan 2005 05:12:50 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On 27 Jan 2005 17:35:56 -0800, "Curtis CCR"


wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:10:34 GMT, "Jim,"


wrote:



http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20...eed/print.html

Jan. 27, 2005 | WASHINGTON -- Most patients at the Walter

Reed
Army
Medical Center in Washington have a lot on their minds: the

war
they

just fought, the injuries they came home with, the future

that
lies
ahead. The last thing a wounded soldier needs to worry

about
is
where
the next meal is coming from. But for hundreds of Walter

Reed
patients,
that's a real concern. Starting this month, the Army has

started
making
some wounded soldiers pay for the food they eat at the

hospital.


I spent three months in Walter Reed. During that time, I

paid
for
my
meals. At the same time I was drawing a Subsistence

Allowance.
I
did
not expect that the Army should give me money to buy my

food,
and
then
also give me the food I was supposed to buy.

But hey, liberal whining makes a good story for the

anti-Bush
crowd.
When Clinton was in office, the rules were the same.

Now, I really wonder why the names were withheld.

I was not in a hospital, but I was on BAS, a.k.a. separate

rations,
when I was in the military. If I ate in a chow hall I had to

pay
for
my meals while others ate free.

I was reveiving an extra allowance in my paycheck (IIRC it was

about
$150/mo) instead of getting free meals at the chow hall. And

the
cost
of those meals I ate in a chow hall was still subsidized.

When I went to Gulf War #1 I lost my BAS. They fed me on

base,
so
they
didn't need to pay me a hundred-something bucks a month for

food.
The
left-wing hysterics would have called that a slap in the face,
wouldn't
they? Taking away the poor soldier's food allowance when he

is
sent
to
war. But they either feed you, or pay you to get your own

food.
But
not both.

And the way the article is written is typical. Create an

image
in
the
reader's head of a paralyzed amputee getting his dinner check

while
he
lies in a a


href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=hospital%20bed"
onmouseover="window.status='a


href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=hospital%20bed"
onmouseover="window.status='a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=hospital%20bed"
onmouseover="window.status='hospital bed'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"hospital bed/a'; return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"hospital bed/a';

return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"hospital bed/a.

Don't
explain that this doesn't apply to
inpatients until the reader is frothing at the mouth and blind

with
rage.

Then there's that $7.50 a day "combat pay," or whatever it's

called
now. I listened to Randi Rhodes (one of the Air America

crowd)
yesterday try to pass that off as what soldier's get

paid...period.
She did not attempt to clarify that it was additional pay.

She
was
implying that soldiers are only paid $7.50 a day. And a good
portion
of her audience will think just that. If she is ever called

on
it,
I
can predict the way she will weasel out of it.... "I never

said
that
was their total pay... I just said that is was we pay them

for
getting
shot at... if the audience didn't understand that, they need

to
listen
more carefully..."

Why would I listen to Randi Rhodes? Why would I listen to

Limbaugh?
Mostly for the entertainment value. But also because two

halves
make a
hole. Since right wing radio only gives you the half of the

truth
that
suits them, and left wing radio only gives you the other half

tha
suits
them, your only *chance* of of getting close to the whole

story
is
to
listen to both.

Several good points there. Notice that Jim, seems to have

dropped
out
of the discussion after his hyper-whine.

Friggin' civilians spouting lies to other friggin' civilians

who'll
believe anything that's anti-administration!

Yeah, damned civilians. Who do they think they are? Jeez, you'd

think
that they owned the corporations that keep this country going!

You'd
also think they made up the bulk of the population! Who to hell

do
they
think they are? Hell, they CAN'T possibly know enough to be able

to
take information given to them and ascertain whether or not it's
viable. Damn it, any washed up ex-soldier in Maryland could tell

them
that they can't possibly have any brains if they don't goose step

to
the Bush Reich.

You're learning.

John H


Yes, and please, let us remember, you ARE one. Are you REALLY so

narrow
minded that you believe that the people that live in, elect

officials
in, work in, provide 99.999% of the workforce in, pay the same in
taxes, run the educational systems, and on and on, don't know

anything,
and some army grunt with an 8th grade education should tell THEM how

do
think????


Are you bragging about your education again?
John H

I'll take that as a sign that you don't want to answer the questions??


JohnH January 28th 05 07:54 PM

On 28 Jan 2005 11:30:15 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


Gee, I was never IN the armed forces....


That's obvious.


John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

basskisser January 28th 05 07:56 PM


JohnH wrote:
On 28 Jan 2005 11:30:15 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


Gee, I was never IN the armed forces....


That's obvious.


John H


It sure is! I've never had to have someone tell me every move to make.


JohnH January 28th 05 07:57 PM

On 28 Jan 2005 11:30:55 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


I'll take that as a sign that you don't want to answer the questions??


Is it okay or not okay. Yes, Harry is a liar. No, I'm not narrow
minded. After all, I've given you several ideas on how to improve your
posts.

I also have a little more than an 8th grade education, but I can
understand your jealousy of same.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

basskisser January 28th 05 08:04 PM


JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

JohnH wrote:
On 28 Jan 2005 05:12:50 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On 27 Jan 2005 17:35:56 -0800, "Curtis CCR"


wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:10:34 GMT, "Jim,"


wrote:



http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20...eed/print.html

Jan. 27, 2005 | WASHINGTON -- Most patients at the Walter

Reed
Army
Medical Center in Washington have a lot on their minds: the

war
they

just fought, the injuries they came home with, the future

that
lies
ahead. The last thing a wounded soldier needs to worry

about
is
where
the next meal is coming from. But for hundreds of Walter

Reed
patients,
that's a real concern. Starting this month, the Army has

started
making
some wounded soldiers pay for the food they eat at the

hospital.


I spent three months in Walter Reed. During that time, I

paid
for
my
meals. At the same time I was drawing a Subsistence

Allowance.
I
did
not expect that the Army should give me money to buy my

food,
and
then
also give me the food I was supposed to buy.

But hey, liberal whining makes a good story for the

anti-Bush
crowd.
When Clinton was in office, the rules were the same.

Now, I really wonder why the names were withheld.

I was not in a hospital, but I was on BAS, a.k.a. separate

rations,
when I was in the military. If I ate in a chow hall I had to

pay
for
my meals while others ate free.

I was reveiving an extra allowance in my paycheck (IIRC it was

about
$150/mo) instead of getting free meals at the chow hall. And

the
cost
of those meals I ate in a chow hall was still subsidized.

When I went to Gulf War #1 I lost my BAS. They fed me on

base,
so
they
didn't need to pay me a hundred-something bucks a month for

food.
The
left-wing hysterics would have called that a slap in the face,
wouldn't
they? Taking away the poor soldier's food allowance when he

is
sent
to
war. But they either feed you, or pay you to get your own

food.
But
not both.

And the way the article is written is typical. Create an

image
in
the
reader's head of a paralyzed amputee getting his dinner check

while
he
lies in a a


href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=hospital%20bed"
onmouseover="window.status='a


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explain that this doesn't apply to
inpatients until the reader is frothing at the mouth and blind

with
rage.

Then there's that $7.50 a day "combat pay," or whatever it's

called
now. I listened to Randi Rhodes (one of the Air America

crowd)
yesterday try to pass that off as what soldier's get

paid...period.
She did not attempt to clarify that it was additional pay.

She
was
implying that soldiers are only paid $7.50 a day. And a good
portion
of her audience will think just that. If she is ever called

on
it,
I
can predict the way she will weasel out of it.... "I never

said
that
was their total pay... I just said that is was we pay them

for
getting
shot at... if the audience didn't understand that, they need

to
listen
more carefully..."

Why would I listen to Randi Rhodes? Why would I listen to

Limbaugh?
Mostly for the entertainment value. But also because two

halves
make a
hole. Since right wing radio only gives you the half of the

truth
that
suits them, and left wing radio only gives you the other half

tha
suits
them, your only *chance* of of getting close to the whole

story
is
to
listen to both.

Several good points there. Notice that Jim, seems to have

dropped
out
of the discussion after his hyper-whine.

Friggin' civilians spouting lies to other friggin' civilians

who'll
believe anything that's anti-administration!

Yeah, damned civilians. Who do they think they are? Jeez, you'd

think
that they owned the corporations that keep this country going!

You'd
also think they made up the bulk of the population! Who to hell

do
they
think they are? Hell, they CAN'T possibly know enough to be able

to
take information given to them and ascertain whether or not it's
viable. Damn it, any washed up ex-soldier in Maryland could tell

them
that they can't possibly have any brains if they don't goose step

to
the Bush Reich.

You're learning.

John H


Yes, and please, let us remember, you ARE one. Are you REALLY so

narrow
minded that you believe that the people that live in, elect

officials
in, work in, provide 99.999% of the workforce in, pay the same in
taxes, run the educational systems, and on and on, don't know

anything,
and some army grunt with an 8th grade education should tell THEM

how do
think????


Soldiers have 8th grade educations Bassy? What planet do you live

on?

I've known MANY people where I grew up, that quit school at or around
that time and joined the military.


basskisser January 28th 05 08:07 PM


JohnH wrote:
On 28 Jan 2005 11:30:55 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


I'll take that as a sign that you don't want to answer the

questions??

Is it okay or not okay.


Is WHAT okay?

Yes, Harry is a liar. No, I'm not narrow
minded.


That's odd, you don't think that you are narrow minded, when you state
that ALL civilians can't think for themselves?

After all, I've given you several ideas on how to improve your
posts.


Here's one for you, John. Try acting like an adult.

Speaking of liars, please show where Harry said, as you have stated,
that he "identified bodies" in 'Nam.

I also have a little more than an 8th grade education

VERY little more, no doubt.



P.Fritz January 28th 05 08:10 PM


"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On 28 Jan 2005 11:30:15 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


Gee, I was never IN the armed forces....'


Yep.....they do have their basic minimums.


That's obvious.


John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to
resolve it."
Rene Descartes




P.Fritz January 28th 05 08:10 PM


"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On 28 Jan 2005 11:30:55 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


I'll take that as a sign that you don't want to answer the questions??


Is it okay or not okay. Yes, Harry is a liar. No, I'm not narrow
minded. After all, I've given you several ideas on how to improve your
posts.

I also have a little more than an 8th grade education, but I can
understand your jealousy of same.


Remember......he has that degree from Penn Tech LMAO


John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to
resolve it."
Rene Descartes




basskisser January 28th 05 08:13 PM


P.Fritz wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On 28 Jan 2005 11:30:15 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


Gee, I was never IN the armed forces....'


Yep.....they do have their basic minimums.


What branch were YOU in, Fritz? Hell, by your posts here, maybe your
not yet old enough.


JohnH January 28th 05 08:22 PM

On 28 Jan 2005 11:56:32 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On 28 Jan 2005 11:30:15 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


Gee, I was never IN the armed forces....


That's obvious.


John H


It sure is! I've never had to have someone tell me every move to make.


Then please inform us why you have your head buried to the hilt.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

JohnH January 28th 05 08:23 PM

On 28 Jan 2005 12:13:14 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


P.Fritz wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On 28 Jan 2005 11:30:15 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


Gee, I was never IN the armed forces....'


Yep.....they do have their basic minimums.


What branch were YOU in, Fritz? Hell, by your posts here, maybe your
not yet old enough.


YOU'RE!!!

Geeez!

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

JohnH January 28th 05 08:28 PM

On 28 Jan 2005 12:07:47 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


JohnH wrote:


Is it okay or not okay.


Is WHAT okay?


To say all people in Georgia are stupid because *some* of the people
in Georgia are stupid. I can't believe you forgot the question!

Yes, Harry is a liar. No, I'm not narrow
minded.


That's odd, you don't think that you are narrow minded, when you state
that ALL civilians can't think for themselves?


Please show me where I said, "...ALL civilians can't think for
themselves."



After all, I've given you several ideas on how to improve your
posts.


Unlike others, I don't have to act.

Speaking of liars, please show where Harry said, as you have stated,
that he "identified bodies" in 'Nam.


I told you, look it up yourself!

I also have a little more than an 8th grade education



VERY little more, no doubt.

Enough to suffice, Dr. b'asskisser!


John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

JohnH January 28th 05 08:30 PM

On 28 Jan 2005 12:04:22 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


Soldiers have 8th grade educations Bassy? What planet do you live

on?

I've known MANY people where I grew up, that quit school at or around
that time and joined the military.


Are you now trying to tell us that some folks went to school where you
grew up? Did they join the military at 13 years old? Wow!

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

P.Fritz January 28th 05 08:41 PM


"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On 28 Jan 2005 12:13:14 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


P.Fritz wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On 28 Jan 2005 11:30:15 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


Gee, I was never IN the armed forces....'

Yep.....they do have their basic minimums.


What branch were YOU in, Fritz? Hell, by your posts here, maybe your
not yet old enough.


YOU'RE!!!


LMAO........asslicker still doesn't get it.


BTW....I turned down an appointment to West Point......didn't offer the
major I was going for...........


Geeez!

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to
resolve it."
Rene Descartes




basskisser January 28th 05 09:11 PM


JohnH wrote:
On 28 Jan 2005 12:04:22 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


Soldiers have 8th grade educations Bassy? What planet do you live

on?

I've known MANY people where I grew up, that quit school at or

around
that time and joined the military.


Are you now trying to tell us that some folks went to school where

you
grew up? Did they join the military at 13 years old? Wow!

Where did I say they were 13 years old, John? Jeez, can you read ONE
FLIPPIN sentence and get it right? A LOT of the farm boys around those
parts were dumber than posts. When I was in ninth grade, there was one
in my class that was so big when the teacher made him put his legs
under his desk, the legs of the desk were six inches off of the floor.
Add to that the fact that more than that never got past the eighth
grade, screwed around for a year or two, then joined. I don't know
about now, but back then, you could be dumber than the proverbial stump
and still get in the military. The local justice of the peace was all
the time taking young men, who had gotten into a little trouble, and
letting them off IF they joined.


basskisser January 28th 05 09:14 PM


P.Fritz wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On 28 Jan 2005 12:13:14 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


P.Fritz wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On 28 Jan 2005 11:30:15 -0800, "basskisser"


wrote:


Gee, I was never IN the armed forces....'

Yep.....they do have their basic minimums.


What branch were YOU in, Fritz? Hell, by your posts here, maybe

your
not yet old enough.


YOU'RE!!!


LMAO........asslicker still doesn't get it.


You are the one who don't get it. You STILL can't act like a man, can
you? Do you act like a child on purpose, or is it that you just don't
have the mental capacity to do so?


BTW....I turned down an appointment to West Point......didn't offer

the
major I was going for...........

Bull****. You don't act like an adult to this day, let alone be man
enough to be appointed to West Point.


JimH January 28th 05 09:15 PM


"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

JohnH wrote:
On 28 Jan 2005 12:04:22 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


Soldiers have 8th grade educations Bassy? What planet do you live
on?

I've known MANY people where I grew up, that quit school at or

around
that time and joined the military.


Are you now trying to tell us that some folks went to school where

you
grew up? Did they join the military at 13 years old? Wow!

Where did I say they were 13 years old, John? Jeez, can you read ONE
FLIPPIN sentence and get it right? A LOT of the farm boys around those
parts were dumber than posts. When I was in ninth grade, there was one
in my class that was so big when the teacher made him put his legs
under his desk, the legs of the desk were six inches off of the floor.
Add to that the fact that more than that never got past the eighth
grade, screwed around for a year or two, then joined. I don't know
about now, but back then, you could be dumber than the proverbial stump
and still get in the military. The local justice of the peace was all
the time taking young men, who had gotten into a little trouble, and
letting them off IF they joined.


OMG...here we go again.



basskisser January 28th 05 09:34 PM


JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

JohnH wrote:
On 28 Jan 2005 12:04:22 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


Soldiers have 8th grade educations Bassy? What planet do you

live
on?

I've known MANY people where I grew up, that quit school at or

around
that time and joined the military.

Are you now trying to tell us that some folks went to school where

you
grew up? Did they join the military at 13 years old? Wow!

Where did I say they were 13 years old, John? Jeez, can you read

ONE
FLIPPIN sentence and get it right? A LOT of the farm boys around

those
parts were dumber than posts. When I was in ninth grade, there was

one
in my class that was so big when the teacher made him put his legs
under his desk, the legs of the desk were six inches off of the

floor.
Add to that the fact that more than that never got past the eighth
grade, screwed around for a year or two, then joined. I don't know
about now, but back then, you could be dumber than the proverbial

stump
and still get in the military. The local justice of the peace was

all
the time taking young men, who had gotten into a little trouble,

and
letting them off IF they joined.


OMG...here we go again.

don't believe it, Jim? If not, why? Happened all of the time.


Some Guy January 28th 05 10:32 PM


"basskisser" wrote in message

don't believe it, Jim? If not, why? Happened all of the time.


your brother, wasn't it...... iirc a thread from some time ago.



JohnH January 28th 05 10:39 PM

On 28 Jan 2005 13:14:13 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


P.Fritz wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On 28 Jan 2005 12:13:14 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


P.Fritz wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On 28 Jan 2005 11:30:15 -0800, "basskisser"


wrote:


Gee, I was never IN the armed forces....'

Yep.....they do have their basic minimums.


What branch were YOU in, Fritz? Hell, by your posts here, maybe

your
not yet old enough.

YOU'RE!!!


LMAO........asslicker still doesn't get it.


You are the one who don't get it. You STILL can't act like a man, can
you? Do you act like a child on purpose, or is it that you just don't
have the mental capacity to do so?


BTW....I turned down an appointment to West Point......didn't offer

the
major I was going for...........

Bull****. You don't act like an adult to this day, let alone be man
enough to be appointed to West Point.


You obviously know nothing of West Point appointments, b'asskisser.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

JohnH January 28th 05 10:42 PM

On 28 Jan 2005 13:11:50 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On 28 Jan 2005 12:04:22 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


Soldiers have 8th grade educations Bassy? What planet do you live
on?

I've known MANY people where I grew up, that quit school at or

around
that time and joined the military.


Are you now trying to tell us that some folks went to school where

you
grew up? Did they join the military at 13 years old? Wow!

Where did I say they were 13 years old, John? Jeez, can you read ONE
FLIPPIN sentence and get it right? A LOT of the farm boys around those
parts were dumber than posts. When I was in ninth grade, there was one
in my class that was so big when the teacher made him put his legs
under his desk, the legs of the desk were six inches off of the floor.
Add to that the fact that more than that never got past the eighth
grade, screwed around for a year or two, then joined. I don't know
about now, but back then, you could be dumber than the proverbial stump
and still get in the military. The local justice of the peace was all
the time taking young men, who had gotten into a little trouble, and
letting them off IF they joined.


Most 8th graders are 13 when they start 8th grade. Now, where you grew
up they may have been 18, I don't know. Usually the Army won't take
8th grade dropouts. In fact, for many years they've taken only high
school graduates.

Now you're asking us to believe you were in the ninth grade? Are you
more credible than Harry?

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

JohnH January 28th 05 10:43 PM

On 28 Jan 2005 13:34:19 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

JohnH wrote:
On 28 Jan 2005 12:04:22 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


Soldiers have 8th grade educations Bassy? What planet do you

live
on?

I've known MANY people where I grew up, that quit school at or
around
that time and joined the military.

Are you now trying to tell us that some folks went to school where
you
grew up? Did they join the military at 13 years old? Wow!

Where did I say they were 13 years old, John? Jeez, can you read

ONE
FLIPPIN sentence and get it right? A LOT of the farm boys around

those
parts were dumber than posts. When I was in ninth grade, there was

one
in my class that was so big when the teacher made him put his legs
under his desk, the legs of the desk were six inches off of the

floor.
Add to that the fact that more than that never got past the eighth
grade, screwed around for a year or two, then joined. I don't know
about now, but back then, you could be dumber than the proverbial

stump
and still get in the military. The local justice of the peace was

all
the time taking young men, who had gotten into a little trouble,

and
letting them off IF they joined.


OMG...here we go again.

don't believe it, Jim? If not, why? Happened all of the time.


Did they do that with the pot growers also?

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

Don White January 28th 05 11:24 PM


"basskisser" wrote in message
don't believe it, Jim? If not, why? Happened all of the time.



It was a commom practice up here in the '60s.
When the salaries were upped and the manpower levels dropped...the supply
outgrew the demand and the military got picky.





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