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On 28 Jan 2005 05:12:50 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote: JohnH wrote: On 27 Jan 2005 17:35:56 -0800, "Curtis CCR" wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:10:34 GMT, "Jim," wrote: http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20...eed/print.html Jan. 27, 2005 | WASHINGTON -- Most patients at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington have a lot on their minds: the war they just fought, the injuries they came home with, the future that lies ahead. The last thing a wounded soldier needs to worry about is where the next meal is coming from. But for hundreds of Walter Reed patients, that's a real concern. Starting this month, the Army has started making some wounded soldiers pay for the food they eat at the hospital. I spent three months in Walter Reed. During that time, I paid for my meals. At the same time I was drawing a Subsistence Allowance. I did not expect that the Army should give me money to buy my food, and then also give me the food I was supposed to buy. But hey, liberal whining makes a good story for the anti-Bush crowd. When Clinton was in office, the rules were the same. Now, I really wonder why the names were withheld. I was not in a hospital, but I was on BAS, a.k.a. separate rations, when I was in the military. If I ate in a chow hall I had to pay for my meals while others ate free. I was reveiving an extra allowance in my paycheck (IIRC it was about $150/mo) instead of getting free meals at the chow hall. And the cost of those meals I ate in a chow hall was still subsidized. When I went to Gulf War #1 I lost my BAS. They fed me on base, so they didn't need to pay me a hundred-something bucks a month for food. The left-wing hysterics would have called that a slap in the face, wouldn't they? Taking away the poor soldier's food allowance when he is sent to war. But they either feed you, or pay you to get your own food. But not both. And the way the article is written is typical. Create an image in the reader's head of a paralyzed amputee getting his dinner check while he lies in a a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=hospital%20bed" onmouseover="window.status='hospital bed'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"hospital bed/a. Don't explain that this doesn't apply to inpatients until the reader is frothing at the mouth and blind with rage. Then there's that $7.50 a day "combat pay," or whatever it's called now. I listened to Randi Rhodes (one of the Air America crowd) yesterday try to pass that off as what soldier's get paid...period. She did not attempt to clarify that it was additional pay. She was implying that soldiers are only paid $7.50 a day. And a good portion of her audience will think just that. If she is ever called on it, I can predict the way she will weasel out of it.... "I never said that was their total pay... I just said that is was we pay them for getting shot at... if the audience didn't understand that, they need to listen more carefully..." Why would I listen to Randi Rhodes? Why would I listen to Limbaugh? Mostly for the entertainment value. But also because two halves make a hole. Since right wing radio only gives you the half of the truth that suits them, and left wing radio only gives you the other half tha suits them, your only *chance* of of getting close to the whole story is to listen to both. Several good points there. Notice that Jim, seems to have dropped out of the discussion after his hyper-whine. Friggin' civilians spouting lies to other friggin' civilians who'll believe anything that's anti-administration! Yeah, damned civilians. Who do they think they are? Jeez, you'd think that they owned the corporations that keep this country going! You'd also think they made up the bulk of the population! Who to hell do they think they are? Hell, they CAN'T possibly know enough to be able to take information given to them and ascertain whether or not it's viable. Damn it, any washed up ex-soldier in Maryland could tell them that they can't possibly have any brains if they don't goose step to the Bush Reich. You're learning. John H On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD, on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes |
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:14:39 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote: basskisser wrote: JohnH wrote: Friggin' civilians spouting lies to other friggin' civilians who'll believe anything that's anti-administration! Yeah, damned civilians. Who do they think they are? Jeez, you'd think that they owned the corporations that keep this country going! You'd also think they made up the bulk of the population! Who to hell do they think they are? Hell, they CAN'T possibly know enough to be able to take information given to them and ascertain whether or not it's viable. Damn it, any washed up ex-soldier in Maryland could tell them that they can't possibly have any brains if they don't goose step to the Bush Reich. Herring couldn't make it in the civilian world, which is why he resents civilians commenting on his former pack of good old boys. But don't push him too far...he'll fall off the wagon and end up back in the hospital. Harry, you're a ****ing liar trying hard to come up with insults. Keep working at it, you liar. John H On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD, on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes |
JohnH wrote: On 28 Jan 2005 05:12:50 -0800, "basskisser" wrote: JohnH wrote: On 27 Jan 2005 17:35:56 -0800, "Curtis CCR" wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:10:34 GMT, "Jim," wrote: http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20...eed/print.html Jan. 27, 2005 | WASHINGTON -- Most patients at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington have a lot on their minds: the war they just fought, the injuries they came home with, the future that lies ahead. The last thing a wounded soldier needs to worry about is where the next meal is coming from. But for hundreds of Walter Reed patients, that's a real concern. Starting this month, the Army has started making some wounded soldiers pay for the food they eat at the hospital. I spent three months in Walter Reed. During that time, I paid for my meals. At the same time I was drawing a Subsistence Allowance. I did not expect that the Army should give me money to buy my food, and then also give me the food I was supposed to buy. But hey, liberal whining makes a good story for the anti-Bush crowd. When Clinton was in office, the rules were the same. Now, I really wonder why the names were withheld. I was not in a hospital, but I was on BAS, a.k.a. separate rations, when I was in the military. If I ate in a chow hall I had to pay for my meals while others ate free. I was reveiving an extra allowance in my paycheck (IIRC it was about $150/mo) instead of getting free meals at the chow hall. And the cost of those meals I ate in a chow hall was still subsidized. When I went to Gulf War #1 I lost my BAS. They fed me on base, so they didn't need to pay me a hundred-something bucks a month for food. The left-wing hysterics would have called that a slap in the face, wouldn't they? Taking away the poor soldier's food allowance when he is sent to war. But they either feed you, or pay you to get your own food. But not both. And the way the article is written is typical. Create an image in the reader's head of a paralyzed amputee getting his dinner check while he lies in a a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=hospital%20bed" onmouseover="window.status='a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=hospital%20bed" onmouseover="window.status='hospital bed'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"hospital bed/a'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"hospital bed/a. Don't explain that this doesn't apply to inpatients until the reader is frothing at the mouth and blind with rage. Then there's that $7.50 a day "combat pay," or whatever it's called now. I listened to Randi Rhodes (one of the Air America crowd) yesterday try to pass that off as what soldier's get paid...period. She did not attempt to clarify that it was additional pay. She was implying that soldiers are only paid $7.50 a day. And a good portion of her audience will think just that. If she is ever called on it, I can predict the way she will weasel out of it.... "I never said that was their total pay... I just said that is was we pay them for getting shot at... if the audience didn't understand that, they need to listen more carefully..." Why would I listen to Randi Rhodes? Why would I listen to Limbaugh? Mostly for the entertainment value. But also because two halves make a hole. Since right wing radio only gives you the half of the truth that suits them, and left wing radio only gives you the other half tha suits them, your only *chance* of of getting close to the whole story is to listen to both. Several good points there. Notice that Jim, seems to have dropped out of the discussion after his hyper-whine. Friggin' civilians spouting lies to other friggin' civilians who'll believe anything that's anti-administration! Yeah, damned civilians. Who do they think they are? Jeez, you'd think that they owned the corporations that keep this country going! You'd also think they made up the bulk of the population! Who to hell do they think they are? Hell, they CAN'T possibly know enough to be able to take information given to them and ascertain whether or not it's viable. Damn it, any washed up ex-soldier in Maryland could tell them that they can't possibly have any brains if they don't goose step to the Bush Reich. You're learning. John H Yes, and please, let us remember, you ARE one. Are you REALLY so narrow minded that you believe that the people that live in, elect officials in, work in, provide 99.999% of the workforce in, pay the same in taxes, run the educational systems, and on and on, don't know anything, and some army grunt with an 8th grade education should tell THEM how do think???? |
JohnH wrote: On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:14:39 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: JohnH wrote: Friggin' civilians spouting lies to other friggin' civilians who'll believe anything that's anti-administration! Yeah, damned civilians. Who do they think they are? Jeez, you'd think that they owned the corporations that keep this country going! You'd also think they made up the bulk of the population! Who to hell do they think they are? Hell, they CAN'T possibly know enough to be able to take information given to them and ascertain whether or not it's viable. Damn it, any washed up ex-soldier in Maryland could tell them that they can't possibly have any brains if they don't goose step to the Bush Reich. Herring couldn't make it in the civilian world, which is why he resents civilians commenting on his former pack of good old boys. But don't push him too far...he'll fall off the wagon and end up back in the hospital. Harry, you're a ****ing liar trying hard to come up with insults. Keep working at it, you liar. John H Hell, I take back what I said about all of your class being low. You don't even have LOW CLASS. That would be an insult to low class people. |
On 28 Jan 2005 08:08:48 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote: JohnH wrote: On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:14:39 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: basskisser wrote: JohnH wrote: Friggin' civilians spouting lies to other friggin' civilians who'll believe anything that's anti-administration! Yeah, damned civilians. Who do they think they are? Jeez, you'd think that they owned the corporations that keep this country going! You'd also think they made up the bulk of the population! Who to hell do they think they are? Hell, they CAN'T possibly know enough to be able to take information given to them and ascertain whether or not it's viable. Damn it, any washed up ex-soldier in Maryland could tell them that they can't possibly have any brains if they don't goose step to the Bush Reich. Herring couldn't make it in the civilian world, which is why he resents civilians commenting on his former pack of good old boys. But don't push him too far...he'll fall off the wagon and end up back in the hospital. Harry, you're a ****ing liar trying hard to come up with insults. Keep working at it, you liar. John H Hell, I take back what I said about all of your class being low. You don't even have LOW CLASS. That would be an insult to low class people. Don't feel too insulted, b'asskisser. John H On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD, on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes |
On 28 Jan 2005 08:07:24 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote: JohnH wrote: On 28 Jan 2005 05:12:50 -0800, "basskisser" wrote: JohnH wrote: On 27 Jan 2005 17:35:56 -0800, "Curtis CCR" wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:10:34 GMT, "Jim," wrote: http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20...eed/print.html Jan. 27, 2005 | WASHINGTON -- Most patients at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington have a lot on their minds: the war they just fought, the injuries they came home with, the future that lies ahead. The last thing a wounded soldier needs to worry about is where the next meal is coming from. But for hundreds of Walter Reed patients, that's a real concern. Starting this month, the Army has started making some wounded soldiers pay for the food they eat at the hospital. I spent three months in Walter Reed. During that time, I paid for my meals. At the same time I was drawing a Subsistence Allowance. I did not expect that the Army should give me money to buy my food, and then also give me the food I was supposed to buy. But hey, liberal whining makes a good story for the anti-Bush crowd. When Clinton was in office, the rules were the same. Now, I really wonder why the names were withheld. I was not in a hospital, but I was on BAS, a.k.a. separate rations, when I was in the military. If I ate in a chow hall I had to pay for my meals while others ate free. I was reveiving an extra allowance in my paycheck (IIRC it was about $150/mo) instead of getting free meals at the chow hall. And the cost of those meals I ate in a chow hall was still subsidized. When I went to Gulf War #1 I lost my BAS. They fed me on base, so they didn't need to pay me a hundred-something bucks a month for food. The left-wing hysterics would have called that a slap in the face, wouldn't they? Taking away the poor soldier's food allowance when he is sent to war. But they either feed you, or pay you to get your own food. But not both. And the way the article is written is typical. Create an image in the reader's head of a paralyzed amputee getting his dinner check while he lies in a a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=hospital%20bed" onmouseover="window.status='a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=hospital%20bed" onmouseover="window.status='hospital bed'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"hospital bed/a'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"hospital bed/a. Don't explain that this doesn't apply to inpatients until the reader is frothing at the mouth and blind with rage. Then there's that $7.50 a day "combat pay," or whatever it's called now. I listened to Randi Rhodes (one of the Air America crowd) yesterday try to pass that off as what soldier's get paid...period. She did not attempt to clarify that it was additional pay. She was implying that soldiers are only paid $7.50 a day. And a good portion of her audience will think just that. If she is ever called on it, I can predict the way she will weasel out of it.... "I never said that was their total pay... I just said that is was we pay them for getting shot at... if the audience didn't understand that, they need to listen more carefully..." Why would I listen to Randi Rhodes? Why would I listen to Limbaugh? Mostly for the entertainment value. But also because two halves make a hole. Since right wing radio only gives you the half of the truth that suits them, and left wing radio only gives you the other half tha suits them, your only *chance* of of getting close to the whole story is to listen to both. Several good points there. Notice that Jim, seems to have dropped out of the discussion after his hyper-whine. Friggin' civilians spouting lies to other friggin' civilians who'll believe anything that's anti-administration! Yeah, damned civilians. Who do they think they are? Jeez, you'd think that they owned the corporations that keep this country going! You'd also think they made up the bulk of the population! Who to hell do they think they are? Hell, they CAN'T possibly know enough to be able to take information given to them and ascertain whether or not it's viable. Damn it, any washed up ex-soldier in Maryland could tell them that they can't possibly have any brains if they don't goose step to the Bush Reich. You're learning. John H Yes, and please, let us remember, you ARE one. Are you REALLY so narrow minded that you believe that the people that live in, elect officials in, work in, provide 99.999% of the workforce in, pay the same in taxes, run the educational systems, and on and on, don't know anything, and some army grunt with an 8th grade education should tell THEM how do think???? Are you bragging about your education again? John H On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD, on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes |
JohnH wrote: On 28 Jan 2005 08:07:24 -0800, "basskisser" wrote: JohnH wrote: On 28 Jan 2005 05:12:50 -0800, "basskisser" wrote: JohnH wrote: On 27 Jan 2005 17:35:56 -0800, "Curtis CCR" wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:10:34 GMT, "Jim," wrote: http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20...eed/print.html Jan. 27, 2005 | WASHINGTON -- Most patients at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington have a lot on their minds: the war they just fought, the injuries they came home with, the future that lies ahead. The last thing a wounded soldier needs to worry about is where the next meal is coming from. But for hundreds of Walter Reed patients, that's a real concern. Starting this month, the Army has started making some wounded soldiers pay for the food they eat at the hospital. I spent three months in Walter Reed. During that time, I paid for my meals. At the same time I was drawing a Subsistence Allowance. I did not expect that the Army should give me money to buy my food, and then also give me the food I was supposed to buy. But hey, liberal whining makes a good story for the anti-Bush crowd. When Clinton was in office, the rules were the same. Now, I really wonder why the names were withheld. I was not in a hospital, but I was on BAS, a.k.a. separate rations, when I was in the military. If I ate in a chow hall I had to pay for my meals while others ate free. I was reveiving an extra allowance in my paycheck (IIRC it was about $150/mo) instead of getting free meals at the chow hall. And the cost of those meals I ate in a chow hall was still subsidized. When I went to Gulf War #1 I lost my BAS. They fed me on base, so they didn't need to pay me a hundred-something bucks a month for food. The left-wing hysterics would have called that a slap in the face, wouldn't they? Taking away the poor soldier's food allowance when he is sent to war. But they either feed you, or pay you to get your own food. But not both. And the way the article is written is typical. Create an image in the reader's head of a paralyzed amputee getting his dinner check while he lies in a a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=hospital%20bed" onmouseover="window.status='a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=hospital%20bed" onmouseover="window.status='a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=hospital%20bed" onmouseover="window.status='hospital bed'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"hospital bed/a'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"hospital bed/a'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"hospital bed/a. Don't explain that this doesn't apply to inpatients until the reader is frothing at the mouth and blind with rage. Then there's that $7.50 a day "combat pay," or whatever it's called now. I listened to Randi Rhodes (one of the Air America crowd) yesterday try to pass that off as what soldier's get paid...period. She did not attempt to clarify that it was additional pay. She was implying that soldiers are only paid $7.50 a day. And a good portion of her audience will think just that. If she is ever called on it, I can predict the way she will weasel out of it.... "I never said that was their total pay... I just said that is was we pay them for getting shot at... if the audience didn't understand that, they need to listen more carefully..." Why would I listen to Randi Rhodes? Why would I listen to Limbaugh? Mostly for the entertainment value. But also because two halves make a hole. Since right wing radio only gives you the half of the truth that suits them, and left wing radio only gives you the other half tha suits them, your only *chance* of of getting close to the whole story is to listen to both. Several good points there. Notice that Jim, seems to have dropped out of the discussion after his hyper-whine. Friggin' civilians spouting lies to other friggin' civilians who'll believe anything that's anti-administration! Yeah, damned civilians. Who do they think they are? Jeez, you'd think that they owned the corporations that keep this country going! You'd also think they made up the bulk of the population! Who to hell do they think they are? Hell, they CAN'T possibly know enough to be able to take information given to them and ascertain whether or not it's viable. Damn it, any washed up ex-soldier in Maryland could tell them that they can't possibly have any brains if they don't goose step to the Bush Reich. You're learning. John H Yes, and please, let us remember, you ARE one. Are you REALLY so narrow minded that you believe that the people that live in, elect officials in, work in, provide 99.999% of the workforce in, pay the same in taxes, run the educational systems, and on and on, don't know anything, and some army grunt with an 8th grade education should tell THEM how do think???? Are you bragging about your education again? John H Gee, I was never IN the armed forces.......wonder who was, and brags about it....OH, that's YOU!!!!!! |
JohnH wrote: On 28 Jan 2005 08:07:24 -0800, "basskisser" wrote: JohnH wrote: On 28 Jan 2005 05:12:50 -0800, "basskisser" wrote: JohnH wrote: On 27 Jan 2005 17:35:56 -0800, "Curtis CCR" wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:10:34 GMT, "Jim," wrote: http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20...eed/print.html Jan. 27, 2005 | WASHINGTON -- Most patients at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington have a lot on their minds: the war they just fought, the injuries they came home with, the future that lies ahead. The last thing a wounded soldier needs to worry about is where the next meal is coming from. But for hundreds of Walter Reed patients, that's a real concern. Starting this month, the Army has started making some wounded soldiers pay for the food they eat at the hospital. I spent three months in Walter Reed. During that time, I paid for my meals. At the same time I was drawing a Subsistence Allowance. I did not expect that the Army should give me money to buy my food, and then also give me the food I was supposed to buy. But hey, liberal whining makes a good story for the anti-Bush crowd. When Clinton was in office, the rules were the same. Now, I really wonder why the names were withheld. I was not in a hospital, but I was on BAS, a.k.a. separate rations, when I was in the military. If I ate in a chow hall I had to pay for my meals while others ate free. I was reveiving an extra allowance in my paycheck (IIRC it was about $150/mo) instead of getting free meals at the chow hall. And the cost of those meals I ate in a chow hall was still subsidized. When I went to Gulf War #1 I lost my BAS. They fed me on base, so they didn't need to pay me a hundred-something bucks a month for food. The left-wing hysterics would have called that a slap in the face, wouldn't they? Taking away the poor soldier's food allowance when he is sent to war. But they either feed you, or pay you to get your own food. But not both. And the way the article is written is typical. Create an image in the reader's head of a paralyzed amputee getting his dinner check while he lies in a a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=hospital%20bed" onmouseover="window.status='a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=hospital%20bed" onmouseover="window.status='a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=hospital%20bed" onmouseover="window.status='hospital bed'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"hospital bed/a'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"hospital bed/a'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"hospital bed/a. Don't explain that this doesn't apply to inpatients until the reader is frothing at the mouth and blind with rage. Then there's that $7.50 a day "combat pay," or whatever it's called now. I listened to Randi Rhodes (one of the Air America crowd) yesterday try to pass that off as what soldier's get paid...period. She did not attempt to clarify that it was additional pay. She was implying that soldiers are only paid $7.50 a day. And a good portion of her audience will think just that. If she is ever called on it, I can predict the way she will weasel out of it.... "I never said that was their total pay... I just said that is was we pay them for getting shot at... if the audience didn't understand that, they need to listen more carefully..." Why would I listen to Randi Rhodes? Why would I listen to Limbaugh? Mostly for the entertainment value. But also because two halves make a hole. Since right wing radio only gives you the half of the truth that suits them, and left wing radio only gives you the other half tha suits them, your only *chance* of of getting close to the whole story is to listen to both. Several good points there. Notice that Jim, seems to have dropped out of the discussion after his hyper-whine. Friggin' civilians spouting lies to other friggin' civilians who'll believe anything that's anti-administration! Yeah, damned civilians. Who do they think they are? Jeez, you'd think that they owned the corporations that keep this country going! You'd also think they made up the bulk of the population! Who to hell do they think they are? Hell, they CAN'T possibly know enough to be able to take information given to them and ascertain whether or not it's viable. Damn it, any washed up ex-soldier in Maryland could tell them that they can't possibly have any brains if they don't goose step to the Bush Reich. You're learning. John H Yes, and please, let us remember, you ARE one. Are you REALLY so narrow minded that you believe that the people that live in, elect officials in, work in, provide 99.999% of the workforce in, pay the same in taxes, run the educational systems, and on and on, don't know anything, and some army grunt with an 8th grade education should tell THEM how do think???? Are you bragging about your education again? John H I'll take that as a sign that you don't want to answer the questions?? |
On 28 Jan 2005 11:30:15 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote: Gee, I was never IN the armed forces.... That's obvious. John H On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD, on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes |
JohnH wrote: On 28 Jan 2005 11:30:15 -0800, "basskisser" wrote: Gee, I was never IN the armed forces.... That's obvious. John H It sure is! I've never had to have someone tell me every move to make. |
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