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"JimH" wrote in message ... "JimH" wrote in message ... "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... P.Fritz wrote: "JimH" wrote in message ... "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... JimH wrote: How much did the opening of the Clinton Library cost us Bassy? Not as much as the George W. Bush library, and the annual upkeep cost is less, too! Really? Where is the GW Bush library located? sorry, George H.W. Bush, College Station, TX Can you post some figures to support your claim? Our resident "King of the NG idiots" apparently is quite math impaired. "Brian Blake, public relations specialist at the Bush Library, said the total cost of the library was $83 million, less than half of what SMU may have access to. Blake said the library museum cost $43 million, with private funds from the Bush Foundation, while the library conference center and the Bush School of Government and Public Service cost $40 million. The funding, he said, came from state and A&M money." http://www.thebatt.com/news/2002/12/...y-515078.shtml "Mr. Clinton's cost $165 million," http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Nov17.html Oh, contrai "Over the years, presidential libraries have evolved into multi-purpose institutes that, in addition to housing the official papers of a former President, can include museums, conference facilities, and classrooms. The cost of these facilities can be substantial. According to the George Bush Presidential Library Center Construction and Fact Sheet, the George Bush Presidential Library Center honoring President George H.W. Bush cost approximately $83 million to construct; roughly half of that cost was defrayed by private contributions to the George Bush Presidential Library Foundation, with the remainder funded by Texas A&M University. A December 6, 2001 article in The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette reports that construction of the Clinton Presidential Center is expected to cost $104 million. The Clinton Presidential Library cost has been defrayed by private contributions in excess of $70 million, bringing it's total taxpayer cost of only $34 million." As you can see, it cost the taxpayer's more for Bush's legacy, than for Clinton's. By the way, the costliest to run and maintain? Reagan's. Not so fast. This site shows the cost of Clintons library to be $165 million. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6521909/ Regardless, you can see that public funds often go in to pay for political events and structures. So why are your shorts in a knot over the cost of security for today's inauguration? I said it before, but perhaps it just didn't hit your brain. Do you recall when Bush was on the mat for not pledging enough to the Tsunami victims? HE said that the public should donate, not the government. IF he were a man of honor, he would now say to those donating, instead of $40 million dollars being spent to honor ME, please send that money to the victims. But, alas, he didn't do that, because he, and his followers, see him as larger than life. Add to that the HUGE deficit he's rung up in the name of BushCo War, Inc., and one could only come to the conclusion that he doesn't give a damned about anybody but himself and his mega-rich cronies. Get a life. Sorry for losing it with you but discussing things with you is like talking to a brick wall sometimes. Let me try again, this time with questions: Now where did this $40 million figure come from? I thought you were upset about the $17 million. What was the cost of the Clinton inaugurations? How much public and private money? Were there not disaster relief funds then that the money could have gone to? And just how much money has the US given and pledged to the Tsunami victims? How much in private donations? I really don't understand why this inauguration is bother you like it is. Get over it already. Asslicker is just doing the liebral goose step......as well as letting jealousy interfer with his two brain cells......or was that the THC? |
"basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... P.Fritz wrote: "JimH" wrote in message ... "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... JimH wrote: How much did the opening of the Clinton Library cost us Bassy? Not as much as the George W. Bush library, and the annual upkeep cost is less, too! Really? Where is the GW Bush library located? sorry, George H.W. Bush, College Station, TX Can you post some figures to support your claim? Our resident "King of the NG idiots" apparently is quite math impaired. "Brian Blake, public relations specialist at the Bush Library, said the total cost of the library was $83 million, less than half of what SMU may have access to. Blake said the library museum cost $43 million, with private funds from the Bush Foundation, while the library conference center and the Bush School of Government and Public Service cost $40 million. The funding, he said, came from state and A&M money." http://www.thebatt.com/news/2002/12/...y-515078.shtml "Mr. Clinton's cost $165 million," http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Nov17.html Oh, contrai "Over the years, presidential libraries have evolved into multi-purpose institutes that, in addition to housing the official papers of a former President, can include museums, conference facilities, and classrooms. The cost of these facilities can be substantial. According to the George Bush Presidential Library Center Construction and Fact Sheet, the George Bush Presidential Library Center honoring President George H.W. Bush cost approximately $83 million to construct; roughly half of that cost was defrayed by private contributions to the George Bush Presidential Library Foundation, with the remainder funded by Texas A&M University. A December 6, 2001 article in The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette reports that construction of the Clinton Presidential Center is expected to cost $104 million. The Clinton Presidential Library cost has been defrayed by private contributions in excess of $70 million, bringing it's total taxpayer cost of only $34 million." As you can see, it cost the taxpayer's more for Bush's legacy, than for Clinton's. By the way, the costliest to run and maintain? Reagan's. Not so fast. This site shows the cost of Clintons library to be $165 million. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6521909/ Regardless, you can see that public funds often go in to pay for political events and structures. So why are your shorts in a knot over the cost of security for today's inauguration? I said it before, but perhaps it just didn't hit your brain. Do you recall when Bush was on the mat for not pledging enough to the Tsunami victims? HE said that the public should donate, not the government. IF he were a man of honor, he would now say to those donating, instead of $40 million dollars being spent to honor ME, please send that money to the victims. But, alas, he didn't do that, because he, and his followers, see him as larger than life. Yangtze River floods of July and August of 1996. They cost over $19 Billion. Hurricane Fran in September of 1996, which cost $3.4 Billion. Hurricane Hortense in December 1996, costing $1.5 Billion. How much of the #30 million Clinton inauguration fund went to the victims of those disasters? Was Clinton a man of honor? Just curious. |
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JimH wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message ... On 20 Jan 2005 10:12:50 -0800, "basskisser" wrote: Now tell us how much the 'Oscars' cost! John H On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD, on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes Or the previous inauguration events. Or the Super Bowl. It seems the liberals want to deny Bush this day for some reason, even realizing the bulk of it has been paid for by private donations. A bit of envy perhaps? Maybe someday they will get over their consecutive defeats. Who gives a **** what Carter did? Perhaps Carter just didn't have the supporters willing to pay the bucks to show him a nice time. Grow up! John H On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD, on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes |
"basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... P.Fritz wrote: "JimH" wrote in message ... "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... JimH wrote: How much did the opening of the Clinton Library cost us Bassy? Not as much as the George W. Bush library, and the annual upkeep cost is less, too! Really? Where is the GW Bush library located? sorry, George H.W. Bush, College Station, TX Can you post some figures to support your claim? Our resident "King of the NG idiots" apparently is quite math impaired. "Brian Blake, public relations specialist at the Bush Library, said the total cost of the library was $83 million, less than half of what SMU may have access to. Blake said the library museum cost $43 million, with private funds from the Bush Foundation, while the library conference center and the Bush School of Government and Public Service cost $40 million. The funding, he said, came from state and A&M money." http://www.thebatt.com/news/2002/12/...y-515078.shtml "Mr. Clinton's cost $165 million," http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Nov17.html Oh, contrai "Over the years, presidential libraries have evolved into multi-purpose institutes that, in addition to housing the official papers of a former President, can include museums, conference facilities, and classrooms. The cost of these facilities can be substantial. According to the George Bush Presidential Library Center Construction and Fact Sheet, the George Bush Presidential Library Center honoring President George H.W. Bush cost approximately $83 million to construct; roughly half of that cost was defrayed by private contributions to the George Bush Presidential Library Foundation, with the remainder funded by Texas A&M University. A December 6, 2001 article in The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette reports that construction of the Clinton Presidential Center is expected to cost $104 million. The Clinton Presidential Library cost has been defrayed by private contributions in excess of $70 million, bringing it's total taxpayer cost of only $34 million." As you can see, it cost the taxpayer's more for Bush's legacy, than for Clinton's. By the way, the costliest to run and maintain? Reagan's. Where did it cost taxpayers more for the Bush library? Clinton's according to your post cost taxpayers $34 million. And according to your post Bush's cost the taxpayers $0. 1/2 private people money and the other 1/2 Texas A&M money. |
"Calif Bill" wrote in message nk.net... "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... P.Fritz wrote: "JimH" wrote in message ... "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... JimH wrote: How much did the opening of the Clinton Library cost us Bassy? Not as much as the George W. Bush library, and the annual upkeep cost is less, too! Really? Where is the GW Bush library located? sorry, George H.W. Bush, College Station, TX Can you post some figures to support your claim? Our resident "King of the NG idiots" apparently is quite math impaired. "Brian Blake, public relations specialist at the Bush Library, said the total cost of the library was $83 million, less than half of what SMU may have access to. Blake said the library museum cost $43 million, with private funds from the Bush Foundation, while the library conference center and the Bush School of Government and Public Service cost $40 million. The funding, he said, came from state and A&M money." http://www.thebatt.com/news/2002/12/...y-515078.shtml "Mr. Clinton's cost $165 million," http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Nov17.html Oh, contrai "Over the years, presidential libraries have evolved into multi-purpose institutes that, in addition to housing the official papers of a former President, can include museums, conference facilities, and classrooms. The cost of these facilities can be substantial. According to the George Bush Presidential Library Center Construction and Fact Sheet, the George Bush Presidential Library Center honoring President George H.W. Bush cost approximately $83 million to construct; roughly half of that cost was defrayed by private contributions to the George Bush Presidential Library Foundation, with the remainder funded by Texas A&M University. A December 6, 2001 article in The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette reports that construction of the Clinton Presidential Center is expected to cost $104 million. The Clinton Presidential Library cost has been defrayed by private contributions in excess of $70 million, bringing it's total taxpayer cost of only $34 million." As you can see, it cost the taxpayer's more for Bush's legacy, than for Clinton's. By the way, the costliest to run and maintain? Reagan's. Where did it cost taxpayers more for the Bush library? Clinton's according to your post cost taxpayers $34 million. And according to your post Bush's cost the taxpayers $0. 1/2 private people money and the other 1/2 Texas A&M money. And of course, asslicker fails reveal, is that the rules changed with Bush senior, The fed guvmint restricted the amount of fed dollars that could go to a prez library starting with Bush I. so his 'stats' are meaningless to begin with. |
JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... P.Fritz wrote: "JimH" wrote in message ... "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... JimH wrote: How much did the opening of the Clinton Library cost us Bassy? Not as much as the George W. Bush library, and the annual upkeep cost is less, too! Really? Where is the GW Bush library located? sorry, George H.W. Bush, College Station, TX Can you post some figures to support your claim? Our resident "King of the NG idiots" apparently is quite math impaired. "Brian Blake, public relations specialist at the Bush Library, said the total cost of the library was $83 million, less than half of what SMU may have access to. Blake said the library museum cost $43 million, with private funds from the Bush Foundation, while the library conference center and the Bush School of Government and Public Service cost $40 million. The funding, he said, came from state and A&M money." http://www.thebatt.com/news/2002/12/...y-515078.shtml "Mr. Clinton's cost $165 million," http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Nov17.html Oh, contrai "Over the years, presidential libraries have evolved into multi-purpose institutes that, in addition to housing the official papers of a former President, can include museums, conference facilities, and classrooms. The cost of these facilities can be substantial. According to the George Bush Presidential Library Center Construction and Fact Sheet, the George Bush Presidential Library Center honoring President George H.W. Bush cost approximately $83 million to construct; roughly half of that cost was defrayed by private contributions to the George Bush Presidential Library Foundation, with the remainder funded by Texas A&M University. A December 6, 2001 article in The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette reports that construction of the Clinton Presidential Center is expected to cost $104 million. The Clinton Presidential Library cost has been defrayed by private contributions in excess of $70 million, bringing it's total taxpayer cost of only $34 million." As you can see, it cost the taxpayer's more for Bush's legacy, than for Clinton's. By the way, the costliest to run and maintain? Reagan's. Not so fast. This site shows the cost of Clintons library to be $165 million. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6521909/ Regardless, you can see that public funds often go in to pay for political events and structures. So why are your shorts in a knot over the cost of security for today's inauguration? I said it before, but perhaps it just didn't hit your brain. Do you recall when Bush was on the mat for not pledging enough to the Tsunami victims? HE said that the public should donate, not the government. IF he were a man of honor, he would now say to those donating, instead of $40 million dollars being spent to honor ME, please send that money to the victims. But, alas, he didn't do that, because he, and his followers, see him as larger than life. Add to that the HUGE deficit he's rung up in the name of BushCo War, Inc., and one could only come to the conclusion that he doesn't give a damned about anybody but himself and his mega-rich cronies. Get a life. As expected from you. |
P.Fritz wrote: "JimH" wrote in message ... "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... P.Fritz wrote: "JimH" wrote in message ... "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... JimH wrote: How much did the opening of the Clinton Library cost us Bassy? Not as much as the George W. Bush library, and the annual upkeep cost is less, too! Really? Where is the GW Bush library located? sorry, George H.W. Bush, College Station, TX Can you post some figures to support your claim? Our resident "King of the NG idiots" apparently is quite math impaired. "Brian Blake, public relations specialist at the Bush Library, said the total cost of the library was $83 million, less than half of what SMU may have access to. Blake said the library museum cost $43 million, with private funds from the Bush Foundation, while the library conference center and the Bush School of Government and Public Service cost $40 million. The funding, he said, came from state and A&M money." http://www.thebatt.com/news/2002/12/...y-515078.shtml "Mr. Clinton's cost $165 million," http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Nov17.html Oh, contrai "Over the years, presidential libraries have evolved into multi-purpose institutes that, in addition to housing the official papers of a former President, can include museums, conference facilities, and classrooms. The cost of these facilities can be substantial. According to the George Bush Presidential Library Center Construction and Fact Sheet, the George Bush Presidential Library Center honoring President George H.W. Bush cost approximately $83 million to construct; roughly half of that cost was defrayed by private contributions to the George Bush Presidential Library Foundation, with the remainder funded by Texas A&M University. A December 6, 2001 article in The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette reports that construction of the Clinton Presidential Center is expected to cost $104 million. The Clinton Presidential Library cost has been defrayed by private contributions in excess of $70 million, bringing it's total taxpayer cost of only $34 million." As you can see, it cost the taxpayer's more for Bush's legacy, than for Clinton's. By the way, the costliest to run and maintain? Reagan's. Not so fast. This site shows the cost of Clintons library to be $165 million. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6521909/ Regardless, you can see that public funds often go in to pay for political events and structures. So why are your shorts in a knot over the cost of security for today's inauguration? I said it before, but perhaps it just didn't hit your brain. Do you recall when Bush was on the mat for not pledging enough to the Tsunami victims? HE said that the public should donate, not the government. IF he were a man of honor, he would now say to those donating, instead of $40 million dollars being spent to honor ME, please send that money to the victims. But, alas, he didn't do that, because he, and his followers, see him as larger than life. Add to that the HUGE deficit he's rung up in the name of BushCo War, Inc., and one could only come to the conclusion that he doesn't give a damned about anybody but himself and his mega-rich cronies. Get a life. For asslicker........the NG is his life. Nah, usenet is YOUR life, Paul. You need the support for raising a kid, and you bitter divorce. I see that you've still not grown up, and continue to act like a child. |
"basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message oups.com... P.Fritz wrote: "JimH" wrote in message ... "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... JimH wrote: "basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... JimH wrote: How much did the opening of the Clinton Library cost us Bassy? Not as much as the George W. Bush library, and the annual upkeep cost is less, too! Really? Where is the GW Bush library located? sorry, George H.W. Bush, College Station, TX Can you post some figures to support your claim? Our resident "King of the NG idiots" apparently is quite math impaired. "Brian Blake, public relations specialist at the Bush Library, said the total cost of the library was $83 million, less than half of what SMU may have access to. Blake said the library museum cost $43 million, with private funds from the Bush Foundation, while the library conference center and the Bush School of Government and Public Service cost $40 million. The funding, he said, came from state and A&M money." http://www.thebatt.com/news/2002/12/...y-515078.shtml "Mr. Clinton's cost $165 million," http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Nov17.html Oh, contrai "Over the years, presidential libraries have evolved into multi-purpose institutes that, in addition to housing the official papers of a former President, can include museums, conference facilities, and classrooms. The cost of these facilities can be substantial. According to the George Bush Presidential Library Center Construction and Fact Sheet, the George Bush Presidential Library Center honoring President George H.W. Bush cost approximately $83 million to construct; roughly half of that cost was defrayed by private contributions to the George Bush Presidential Library Foundation, with the remainder funded by Texas A&M University. A December 6, 2001 article in The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette reports that construction of the Clinton Presidential Center is expected to cost $104 million. The Clinton Presidential Library cost has been defrayed by private contributions in excess of $70 million, bringing it's total taxpayer cost of only $34 million." As you can see, it cost the taxpayer's more for Bush's legacy, than for Clinton's. By the way, the costliest to run and maintain? Reagan's. Not so fast. This site shows the cost of Clintons library to be $165 million. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6521909/ Regardless, you can see that public funds often go in to pay for political events and structures. So why are your shorts in a knot over the cost of security for today's inauguration? I said it before, but perhaps it just didn't hit your brain. Do you recall when Bush was on the mat for not pledging enough to the Tsunami victims? HE said that the public should donate, not the government. IF he were a man of honor, he would now say to those donating, instead of $40 million dollars being spent to honor ME, please send that money to the victims. But, alas, he didn't do that, because he, and his followers, see him as larger than life. Add to that the HUGE deficit he's rung up in the name of BushCo War, Inc., and one could only come to the conclusion that he doesn't give a damned about anybody but himself and his mega-rich cronies. Get a life. As expected from you. Yes, a momentary slip that I gracefully recovered from. I see you have started the morning calling people idiots already. As expected. |
JimH wrote: Sorry for losing it with you but discussing things with you is like talking to a brick wall sometimes. Let me try again, this time with questions: Now where did this $40 million figure come from? It's the estimated cost of the whole event. Most comes from private donations that could be used for better purposes at this time, if Bush would make a stand to do so. Armor for the soldier's vehicles. Directly related to Bush, he sent them there. Flak jackets for same. Food, medical support, etc. for Tsunami victims. I thought you were upset about the $17 million. I am. That portion is directly related to you and I, the taxpayers. I thought you righties were for lower taxes? What was the cost of the Clinton inaugurations? How much public and private money? Were there not disaster relief funds then that the money could have gone to? $30 million, and that INCLUDED security. Clinton didn't need as much security, of course, because he didn't **** off the whole world. I'm sure there are disasters that could have used the money, BUT, what you are failing to grasp here, is the fact that Bush actually SAID that the private sector should be the ones donating relief to the Tsunami victims. IF he was a man of honor, he'd have used this time to show how that could be done. And just how much money has the US given and pledged to the Tsunami victims? $350 million, a virtual drop in the bucket. How much in private donations? Estimated to be $322 from the U.S. alone. This does NOT count for any private donations outside of the U.S. I really don't understand why this inauguration is bother you like it is. Get over it already. I've listed the reasons above. If you don't understand, you never will. I love the "get over it already" comment. Hell, you STILL interject something about Clinton in just about ANY political conversation you get involved in here. One could say the same to you. |
"basskisser" wrote in message ups.com... JimH wrote: Sorry for losing it with you but discussing things with you is like talking to a brick wall sometimes. Let me try again, this time with questions: Now where did this $40 million figure come from? It's the estimated cost of the whole event. Most comes from private donations that could be used for better purposes at this time, if Bush would make a stand to do so. Armor for the soldier's vehicles. Directly related to Bush, he sent them there. Flak jackets for same. Food, medical support, etc. for Tsunami victims. I thought you were upset about the $17 million. I am. That portion is directly related to you and I, the taxpayers. I thought you righties were for lower taxes? What was the cost of the Clinton inaugurations? How much public and private money? Were there not disaster relief funds then that the money could have gone to? $30 million, and that INCLUDED security. Clinton didn't need as much security, of course, because he didn't **** off the whole world. I'm sure there are disasters that could have used the money, BUT, what you are failing to grasp here, is the fact that Bush actually SAID that the private sector should be the ones donating relief to the Tsunami victims. IF he was a man of honor, he'd have used this time to show how that could be done. And just how much money has the US given and pledged to the Tsunami victims? $350 million, a virtual drop in the bucket. How much in private donations? Estimated to be $322 from the U.S. alone. This does NOT count for any private donations outside of the U.S. I really don't understand why this inauguration is bother you like it is. Get over it already. I've listed the reasons above. If you don't understand, you never will. I love the "get over it already" comment. Hell, you STILL interject something about Clinton in just about ANY political conversation you get involved in here. One could say the same to you. I interject Clinton only as a comparison. You find that unfair? How so? Here is a nice news story for you on US emergency relief donations: "....foreign assistance for development and emergency relief rose from $10 billion in President Clinton's last year to $24 billion under President Bush in 2003. Secretary of State Colin Powell said assistance for this week's earthquake and tsunamis alone will eventually exceed $1 billion. " Back to the discussion. You failed to answer these questions: What was the breakdown of public and private money spent for the Clinton inaugural in 1996? Were there disasters in 1996 that the private money could have been donated to instead of the inaugural? And a new question. Of the $17 million spent on security for the GWB 2nd inaugural, how much involved permanent security hardware and upgrades that will continue to improve security in DC for years to come? |
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