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JohnH January 20th 05 06:31 PM

BushCo pigs at the trough
 
On 20 Jan 2005 10:12:50 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


Now tell us how much the 'Oscars' cost!

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

JimH January 20th 05 06:38 PM


"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On 20 Jan 2005 10:12:50 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


Now tell us how much the 'Oscars' cost!

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to
resolve it."
Rene Descartes


Or the previous inauguration events. Or the Super Bowl.

It seems the liberals want to deny Bush this day for some reason, even
realizing the bulk of it has been paid for by private donations.

A bit of envy perhaps?

Maybe someday they will get over their consecutive defeats.



basskisser January 20th 05 07:10 PM


JimH wrote:
How much did the opening of the Clinton Library cost us Bassy?

Not as much as the George W. Bush library, and the annual upkeep cost
is less, too!


JimH January 20th 05 07:13 PM


"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:
How much did the opening of the Clinton Library cost us Bassy?

Not as much as the George W. Bush library, and the annual upkeep cost
is less, too!


Really? Where is the GW Bush library located?



basskisser January 20th 05 07:19 PM


JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:
How much did the opening of the Clinton Library cost us Bassy?

Not as much as the George W. Bush library, and the annual upkeep

cost
is less, too!


Really? Where is the GW Bush library located?

sorry, George H.W. Bush, College Station, TX


JimH January 20th 05 07:20 PM


"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

P.Fritz wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
How much did the opening of the Clinton Library cost us Bassy?


Ilove the way the liebral pull in the FDR one......he was at death's

door at
the time.


So, because he was sick, he was wrong for being frugal in a time (like
now) when the money could be used more wisely?

The 17 mil from DC is from federal dollars.

The 40 mil is from private contributions, asslicker and crew are

jealous
of people spending their own money the way they see fit.


I see you still aren't grown up enough to converse in an intelligent
manner without that childish name calling, huh, Paul?

Really? $17 million for security.



So you do not see the need for security at this event Bassy? Do you think
it could be a target for the terrorists?



P.Fritz January 20th 05 07:21 PM


"JimH" wrote in message
...

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:
How much did the opening of the Clinton Library cost us Bassy?

Not as much as the George W. Bush library, and the annual upkeep cost
is less, too!


Really? Where is the GW Bush library located?



Asslicker is once again on the campaign trail to keep his title of "King of
the NG idiots"







JimH January 20th 05 07:21 PM


"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:
How much did the opening of the Clinton Library cost us Bassy?

Not as much as the George W. Bush library, and the annual upkeep

cost
is less, too!


Really? Where is the GW Bush library located?

sorry, George H.W. Bush, College Station, TX


Can you post some figures to support your claim?



P.Fritz January 20th 05 07:26 PM


"JimH" wrote in message
...

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

P.Fritz wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
How much did the opening of the Clinton Library cost us Bassy?


Ilove the way the liebral pull in the FDR one......he was at death's

door at
the time.


So, because he was sick, he was wrong for being frugal in a time (like
now) when the money could be used more wisely?

The 17 mil from DC is from federal dollars.

The 40 mil is from private contributions, asslicker and crew are

jealous
of people spending their own money the way they see fit.


I see you still aren't grown up enough to converse in an intelligent
manner without that childish name calling, huh, Paul?

Really? $17 million for security.



So you do not see the need for security at this event Bassy? Do you
think it could be a target for the terrorists?


I wonder is asslicker ever tires of hearing that wooshing sound.





P.Fritz January 20th 05 07:41 PM


"JimH" wrote in message
...

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:
How much did the opening of the Clinton Library cost us Bassy?

Not as much as the George W. Bush library, and the annual upkeep

cost
is less, too!


Really? Where is the GW Bush library located?

sorry, George H.W. Bush, College Station, TX


Can you post some figures to support your claim?


Our resident "King of the NG idiots" apparently is quite math impaired.

"Brian Blake, public relations specialist at the Bush Library, said the
total cost of the library was $83 million, less than half of what SMU may
have access to.
Blake said the library museum cost $43 million, with private funds from the
Bush Foundation, while the library conference center and the Bush School of
Government and Public Service cost $40 million. The funding, he said, came
from state and A&M money."

http://www.thebatt.com/news/2002/12/...y-515078.shtml


"Mr. Clinton's cost $165 million,"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Nov17.html



basskisser January 20th 05 08:08 PM


P.Fritz wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:
How much did the opening of the Clinton Library cost us Bassy?

Not as much as the George W. Bush library, and the annual

upkeep
cost
is less, too!


Really? Where is the GW Bush library located?
sorry, George H.W. Bush, College Station, TX


Can you post some figures to support your claim?


Our resident "King of the NG idiots" apparently is quite math

impaired.

"Brian Blake, public relations specialist at the Bush Library, said

the
total cost of the library was $83 million, less than half of what SMU

may
have access to.
Blake said the library museum cost $43 million, with private funds

from the
Bush Foundation, while the library conference center and the Bush

School of
Government and Public Service cost $40 million. The funding, he said,

came
from state and A&M money."


http://www.thebatt.com/news/2002/12/...y-515078.shtml


"Mr. Clinton's cost $165 million,"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Nov17.html


Oh, contrai
"Over the years, presidential libraries have evolved into multi-purpose
institutes that, in addition to housing the official papers of a former
President, can include museums, conference facilities, and classrooms.
The cost of these facilities can be substantial. According to the
George Bush Presidential Library Center Construction and Fact Sheet,
the George Bush Presidential Library Center honoring President George
H.W. Bush cost approximately $83 million to construct; roughly half of
that cost was defrayed by private contributions to the George Bush
Presidential Library Foundation, with the remainder funded by Texas A&M
University. A December 6, 2001 article in The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette
reports that construction of the Clinton Presidential Center is
expected to cost $104 million. The Clinton Presidential Library cost
has been defrayed by private contributions in excess of $70 million,
bringing it's total taxpayer cost of only $34 million."

As you can see, it cost the taxpayer's more for Bush's legacy, than for
Clinton's. By the way, the costliest to run and maintain? Reagan's.


JimH January 20th 05 08:12 PM


"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

P.Fritz wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:
How much did the opening of the Clinton Library cost us Bassy?

Not as much as the George W. Bush library, and the annual

upkeep
cost
is less, too!


Really? Where is the GW Bush library located?
sorry, George H.W. Bush, College Station, TX


Can you post some figures to support your claim?


Our resident "King of the NG idiots" apparently is quite math

impaired.

"Brian Blake, public relations specialist at the Bush Library, said

the
total cost of the library was $83 million, less than half of what SMU

may
have access to.
Blake said the library museum cost $43 million, with private funds

from the
Bush Foundation, while the library conference center and the Bush

School of
Government and Public Service cost $40 million. The funding, he said,

came
from state and A&M money."


http://www.thebatt.com/news/2002/12/...y-515078.shtml


"Mr. Clinton's cost $165 million,"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Nov17.html


Oh, contrai
"Over the years, presidential libraries have evolved into multi-purpose
institutes that, in addition to housing the official papers of a former
President, can include museums, conference facilities, and classrooms.
The cost of these facilities can be substantial. According to the
George Bush Presidential Library Center Construction and Fact Sheet,
the George Bush Presidential Library Center honoring President George
H.W. Bush cost approximately $83 million to construct; roughly half of
that cost was defrayed by private contributions to the George Bush
Presidential Library Foundation, with the remainder funded by Texas A&M
University. A December 6, 2001 article in The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette
reports that construction of the Clinton Presidential Center is
expected to cost $104 million. The Clinton Presidential Library cost
has been defrayed by private contributions in excess of $70 million,
bringing it's total taxpayer cost of only $34 million."

As you can see, it cost the taxpayer's more for Bush's legacy, than for
Clinton's. By the way, the costliest to run and maintain? Reagan's.


Not so fast. This site shows the cost of Clintons library to be $165
million. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6521909/

Regardless, you can see that public funds often go in to pay for political
events and structures. So why are your shorts in a knot over the cost of
security for today's inauguration?



P.Fritz January 20th 05 08:24 PM


"JimH" wrote in message
...

"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

P.Fritz wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:
How much did the opening of the Clinton Library cost us Bassy?

Not as much as the George W. Bush library, and the annual

upkeep
cost
is less, too!


Really? Where is the GW Bush library located?
sorry, George H.W. Bush, College Station, TX


Can you post some figures to support your claim?

Our resident "King of the NG idiots" apparently is quite math

impaired.

"Brian Blake, public relations specialist at the Bush Library, said

the
total cost of the library was $83 million, less than half of what SMU

may
have access to.
Blake said the library museum cost $43 million, with private funds

from the
Bush Foundation, while the library conference center and the Bush

School of
Government and Public Service cost $40 million. The funding, he said,

came
from state and A&M money."


http://www.thebatt.com/news/2002/12/...y-515078.shtml


"Mr. Clinton's cost $165 million,"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Nov17.html


Oh, contrai
"Over the years, presidential libraries have evolved into multi-purpose
institutes that, in addition to housing the official papers of a former
President, can include museums, conference facilities, and classrooms.
The cost of these facilities can be substantial. According to the
George Bush Presidential Library Center Construction and Fact Sheet,
the George Bush Presidential Library Center honoring President George
H.W. Bush cost approximately $83 million to construct; roughly half of
that cost was defrayed by private contributions to the George Bush
Presidential Library Foundation, with the remainder funded by Texas A&M
University. A December 6, 2001 article in The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette
reports that construction of the Clinton Presidential Center is
expected to cost $104 million. The Clinton Presidential Library cost
has been defrayed by private contributions in excess of $70 million,
bringing it's total taxpayer cost of only $34 million."

As you can see, it cost the taxpayer's more for Bush's legacy, than for
Clinton's. By the way, the costliest to run and maintain? Reagan's.


Not so fast. This site shows the cost of Clintons library to be $165
million. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6521909/

Regardless, you can see that public funds often go in to pay for political
events and structures. So why are your shorts in a knot over the cost of
security for today's inauguration?


Once again asslicker proves he is 'King of the NG idiots'






basskisser January 20th 05 08:34 PM


JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

P.Fritz wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:
How much did the opening of the Clinton Library cost us

Bassy?

Not as much as the George W. Bush library, and the annual

upkeep
cost
is less, too!


Really? Where is the GW Bush library located?
sorry, George H.W. Bush, College Station, TX


Can you post some figures to support your claim?

Our resident "King of the NG idiots" apparently is quite math

impaired.

"Brian Blake, public relations specialist at the Bush Library,

said
the
total cost of the library was $83 million, less than half of what

SMU
may
have access to.
Blake said the library museum cost $43 million, with private funds

from the
Bush Foundation, while the library conference center and the Bush

School of
Government and Public Service cost $40 million. The funding, he

said,
came
from state and A&M money."



http://www.thebatt.com/news/2002/12/...y-515078.shtml


"Mr. Clinton's cost $165 million,"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Nov17.html

Oh, contrai
"Over the years, presidential libraries have evolved into

multi-purpose
institutes that, in addition to housing the official papers of a

former
President, can include museums, conference facilities, and

classrooms.
The cost of these facilities can be substantial. According to the
George Bush Presidential Library Center Construction and Fact

Sheet,
the George Bush Presidential Library Center honoring President

George
H.W. Bush cost approximately $83 million to construct; roughly half

of
that cost was defrayed by private contributions to the George Bush
Presidential Library Foundation, with the remainder funded by Texas

A&M
University. A December 6, 2001 article in The Arkansas

Democrat-Gazette
reports that construction of the Clinton Presidential Center is
expected to cost $104 million. The Clinton Presidential Library

cost
has been defrayed by private contributions in excess of $70

million,
bringing it's total taxpayer cost of only $34 million."

As you can see, it cost the taxpayer's more for Bush's legacy, than

for
Clinton's. By the way, the costliest to run and maintain? Reagan's.


Not so fast. This site shows the cost of Clintons library to be $165


million. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6521909/

Regardless, you can see that public funds often go in to pay for

political
events and structures. So why are your shorts in a knot over the

cost of
security for today's inauguration?


I said it before, but perhaps it just didn't hit your brain. Do you
recall when Bush was on the mat for not pledging enough to the Tsunami
victims? HE said that the public should donate, not the government. IF
he were a man of honor, he would now say to those donating, instead of
$40 million dollars being spent to honor ME, please send that money to
the victims. But, alas, he didn't do that, because he, and his
followers, see him as larger than life. Add to that the HUGE deficit
he's rung up in the name of BushCo War, Inc., and one could only come
to the conclusion that he doesn't give a damned about anybody but
himself and his mega-rich cronies.


basskisser January 20th 05 08:37 PM


P.Fritz wrote:

Once again asslicker proves he is 'King of the NG idiots'

Once again, Paul proves he is nothing short of a bitter non-man. Why
don't you grow up, Paul? At least debate like an adult. We all know
that you are pathetic, and can't keep a wife, nor raise a kid without
help from alt.support.divorce, and alt.support.single-parent. With all
of your petty, childish name calling, one could easily think that you
have realized that you are a loser, and are trying to bolster your
self-esteem. Too bad it isn't working, you still come off looking
childish and pathetic.


JimH January 20th 05 09:10 PM


"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

P.Fritz wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:
How much did the opening of the Clinton Library cost us

Bassy?

Not as much as the George W. Bush library, and the annual
upkeep
cost
is less, too!


Really? Where is the GW Bush library located?
sorry, George H.W. Bush, College Station, TX


Can you post some figures to support your claim?

Our resident "King of the NG idiots" apparently is quite math
impaired.

"Brian Blake, public relations specialist at the Bush Library,

said
the
total cost of the library was $83 million, less than half of what

SMU
may
have access to.
Blake said the library museum cost $43 million, with private funds
from the
Bush Foundation, while the library conference center and the Bush
School of
Government and Public Service cost $40 million. The funding, he

said,
came
from state and A&M money."



http://www.thebatt.com/news/2002/12/...y-515078.shtml


"Mr. Clinton's cost $165 million,"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Nov17.html

Oh, contrai
"Over the years, presidential libraries have evolved into

multi-purpose
institutes that, in addition to housing the official papers of a

former
President, can include museums, conference facilities, and

classrooms.
The cost of these facilities can be substantial. According to the
George Bush Presidential Library Center Construction and Fact

Sheet,
the George Bush Presidential Library Center honoring President

George
H.W. Bush cost approximately $83 million to construct; roughly half

of
that cost was defrayed by private contributions to the George Bush
Presidential Library Foundation, with the remainder funded by Texas

A&M
University. A December 6, 2001 article in The Arkansas

Democrat-Gazette
reports that construction of the Clinton Presidential Center is
expected to cost $104 million. The Clinton Presidential Library

cost
has been defrayed by private contributions in excess of $70

million,
bringing it's total taxpayer cost of only $34 million."

As you can see, it cost the taxpayer's more for Bush's legacy, than

for
Clinton's. By the way, the costliest to run and maintain? Reagan's.


Not so fast. This site shows the cost of Clintons library to be $165


million. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6521909/

Regardless, you can see that public funds often go in to pay for

political
events and structures. So why are your shorts in a knot over the

cost of
security for today's inauguration?


I said it before, but perhaps it just didn't hit your brain. Do you
recall when Bush was on the mat for not pledging enough to the Tsunami
victims? HE said that the public should donate, not the government. IF
he were a man of honor, he would now say to those donating, instead of
$40 million dollars being spent to honor ME, please send that money to
the victims. But, alas, he didn't do that, because he, and his
followers, see him as larger than life. Add to that the HUGE deficit
he's rung up in the name of BushCo War, Inc., and one could only come
to the conclusion that he doesn't give a damned about anybody but
himself and his mega-rich cronies.


Get a life.



DSK January 20th 05 09:14 PM

P.Fritz wrote:
Ilove the way the liebral pull in the FDR one......he was at death's door at
the time.


"Death's door at the time" ...really? I guess you're an expert medical
historian and have reviewed FDR's health files?

And how is this relevant to the cost of his 4th inauguration? It was
wartime, this is wartime... at least, the Bush Administration often
proclaims it to be.



The 17 mil from DC is from federal dollars.


Really? Are you sure?


The 40 mil is from private contributions


Actually, it isn't. It is wholly funded by your tax dollars, and mine.
The Republican Party *hopes* to raise private donations to offset a
large percent of this expense, but they don't have the money in hand yet
and don't claim to.

Of course, when you've spent $80 million investigating a blow job, maybe
$40 mill for a coronation is just chickenfeed.

DSK


JimH January 20th 05 09:17 PM


"JimH" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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P.Fritz wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:
How much did the opening of the Clinton Library cost us

Bassy?

Not as much as the George W. Bush library, and the annual
upkeep
cost
is less, too!


Really? Where is the GW Bush library located?
sorry, George H.W. Bush, College Station, TX


Can you post some figures to support your claim?

Our resident "King of the NG idiots" apparently is quite math
impaired.

"Brian Blake, public relations specialist at the Bush Library,

said
the
total cost of the library was $83 million, less than half of what

SMU
may
have access to.
Blake said the library museum cost $43 million, with private funds
from the
Bush Foundation, while the library conference center and the Bush
School of
Government and Public Service cost $40 million. The funding, he

said,
came
from state and A&M money."



http://www.thebatt.com/news/2002/12/...y-515078.shtml


"Mr. Clinton's cost $165 million,"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Nov17.html

Oh, contrai
"Over the years, presidential libraries have evolved into

multi-purpose
institutes that, in addition to housing the official papers of a

former
President, can include museums, conference facilities, and

classrooms.
The cost of these facilities can be substantial. According to the
George Bush Presidential Library Center Construction and Fact

Sheet,
the George Bush Presidential Library Center honoring President

George
H.W. Bush cost approximately $83 million to construct; roughly half

of
that cost was defrayed by private contributions to the George Bush
Presidential Library Foundation, with the remainder funded by Texas

A&M
University. A December 6, 2001 article in The Arkansas

Democrat-Gazette
reports that construction of the Clinton Presidential Center is
expected to cost $104 million. The Clinton Presidential Library

cost
has been defrayed by private contributions in excess of $70

million,
bringing it's total taxpayer cost of only $34 million."

As you can see, it cost the taxpayer's more for Bush's legacy, than

for
Clinton's. By the way, the costliest to run and maintain? Reagan's.


Not so fast. This site shows the cost of Clintons library to be $165


million. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6521909/

Regardless, you can see that public funds often go in to pay for

political
events and structures. So why are your shorts in a knot over the

cost of
security for today's inauguration?


I said it before, but perhaps it just didn't hit your brain. Do you
recall when Bush was on the mat for not pledging enough to the Tsunami
victims? HE said that the public should donate, not the government. IF
he were a man of honor, he would now say to those donating, instead of
$40 million dollars being spent to honor ME, please send that money to
the victims. But, alas, he didn't do that, because he, and his
followers, see him as larger than life. Add to that the HUGE deficit
he's rung up in the name of BushCo War, Inc., and one could only come
to the conclusion that he doesn't give a damned about anybody but
himself and his mega-rich cronies.


Get a life.


Sorry for losing it with you but discussing things with you is like talking
to a brick wall sometimes.

Let me try again, this time with questions:

Now where did this $40 million figure come from? I thought you were upset
about the $17 million.

What was the cost of the Clinton inaugurations? How much public and private
money? Were there not disaster relief funds then that the money could have
gone to?

And just how much money has the US given and pledged to the Tsunami victims?
How much in private donations?

I really don't understand why this inauguration is bother you like it is.
Get over it already.



P.Fritz January 20th 05 09:18 PM


"JimH" wrote in message
...

"basskisser" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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P.Fritz wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:
How much did the opening of the Clinton Library cost us

Bassy?

Not as much as the George W. Bush library, and the annual
upkeep
cost
is less, too!


Really? Where is the GW Bush library located?
sorry, George H.W. Bush, College Station, TX


Can you post some figures to support your claim?

Our resident "King of the NG idiots" apparently is quite math
impaired.

"Brian Blake, public relations specialist at the Bush Library,

said
the
total cost of the library was $83 million, less than half of what

SMU
may
have access to.
Blake said the library museum cost $43 million, with private funds
from the
Bush Foundation, while the library conference center and the Bush
School of
Government and Public Service cost $40 million. The funding, he

said,
came
from state and A&M money."



http://www.thebatt.com/news/2002/12/...y-515078.shtml


"Mr. Clinton's cost $165 million,"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Nov17.html

Oh, contrai
"Over the years, presidential libraries have evolved into

multi-purpose
institutes that, in addition to housing the official papers of a

former
President, can include museums, conference facilities, and

classrooms.
The cost of these facilities can be substantial. According to the
George Bush Presidential Library Center Construction and Fact

Sheet,
the George Bush Presidential Library Center honoring President

George
H.W. Bush cost approximately $83 million to construct; roughly half

of
that cost was defrayed by private contributions to the George Bush
Presidential Library Foundation, with the remainder funded by Texas

A&M
University. A December 6, 2001 article in The Arkansas

Democrat-Gazette
reports that construction of the Clinton Presidential Center is
expected to cost $104 million. The Clinton Presidential Library

cost
has been defrayed by private contributions in excess of $70

million,
bringing it's total taxpayer cost of only $34 million."

As you can see, it cost the taxpayer's more for Bush's legacy, than

for
Clinton's. By the way, the costliest to run and maintain? Reagan's.


Not so fast. This site shows the cost of Clintons library to be $165


million. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6521909/

Regardless, you can see that public funds often go in to pay for

political
events and structures. So why are your shorts in a knot over the

cost of
security for today's inauguration?


I said it before, but perhaps it just didn't hit your brain. Do you
recall when Bush was on the mat for not pledging enough to the Tsunami
victims? HE said that the public should donate, not the government. IF
he were a man of honor, he would now say to those donating, instead of
$40 million dollars being spent to honor ME, please send that money to
the victims. But, alas, he didn't do that, because he, and his
followers, see him as larger than life. Add to that the HUGE deficit
he's rung up in the name of BushCo War, Inc., and one could only come
to the conclusion that he doesn't give a damned about anybody but
himself and his mega-rich cronies.


Get a life.


For asslicker........the NG is his life.







JimH January 20th 05 09:32 PM


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How much did the opening of the Clinton Library cost us
Bassy?

Not as much as the George W. Bush library, and the annual
upkeep
cost
is less, too!


Really? Where is the GW Bush library located?
sorry, George H.W. Bush, College Station, TX


Can you post some figures to support your claim?

Our resident "King of the NG idiots" apparently is quite math
impaired.

"Brian Blake, public relations specialist at the Bush Library,
said
the
total cost of the library was $83 million, less than half of what
SMU
may
have access to.
Blake said the library museum cost $43 million, with private funds
from the
Bush Foundation, while the library conference center and the Bush
School of
Government and Public Service cost $40 million. The funding, he
said,
came
from state and A&M money."



http://www.thebatt.com/news/2002/12/...y-515078.shtml


"Mr. Clinton's cost $165 million,"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Nov17.html

Oh, contrai
"Over the years, presidential libraries have evolved into
multi-purpose
institutes that, in addition to housing the official papers of a
former
President, can include museums, conference facilities, and
classrooms.
The cost of these facilities can be substantial. According to the
George Bush Presidential Library Center Construction and Fact
Sheet,
the George Bush Presidential Library Center honoring President
George
H.W. Bush cost approximately $83 million to construct; roughly half
of
that cost was defrayed by private contributions to the George Bush
Presidential Library Foundation, with the remainder funded by Texas
A&M
University. A December 6, 2001 article in The Arkansas
Democrat-Gazette
reports that construction of the Clinton Presidential Center is
expected to cost $104 million. The Clinton Presidential Library
cost
has been defrayed by private contributions in excess of $70
million,
bringing it's total taxpayer cost of only $34 million."

As you can see, it cost the taxpayer's more for Bush's legacy, than
for
Clinton's. By the way, the costliest to run and maintain? Reagan's.


Not so fast. This site shows the cost of Clintons library to be $165

million. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6521909/

Regardless, you can see that public funds often go in to pay for
political
events and structures. So why are your shorts in a knot over the
cost of
security for today's inauguration?

I said it before, but perhaps it just didn't hit your brain. Do you
recall when Bush was on the mat for not pledging enough to the Tsunami
victims? HE said that the public should donate, not the government. IF
he were a man of honor, he would now say to those donating, instead of
$40 million dollars being spent to honor ME, please send that money to
the victims. But, alas, he didn't do that, because he, and his
followers, see him as larger than life. Add to that the HUGE deficit
he's rung up in the name of BushCo War, Inc., and one could only come
to the conclusion that he doesn't give a damned about anybody but
himself and his mega-rich cronies.


Get a life.


For asslicker........the NG is his life.







I am giving him the benefit of the doubt on this one. I am just trying to
figure out where he is coming from and why he is upset over the inauguration
costs. I just don't want him changing the target every post he makes to
this thread.



P.Fritz January 20th 05 09:33 PM


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How much did the opening of the Clinton Library cost us
Bassy?

Not as much as the George W. Bush library, and the annual
upkeep
cost
is less, too!


Really? Where is the GW Bush library located?
sorry, George H.W. Bush, College Station, TX


Can you post some figures to support your claim?

Our resident "King of the NG idiots" apparently is quite math
impaired.

"Brian Blake, public relations specialist at the Bush Library,
said
the
total cost of the library was $83 million, less than half of what
SMU
may
have access to.
Blake said the library museum cost $43 million, with private funds
from the
Bush Foundation, while the library conference center and the Bush
School of
Government and Public Service cost $40 million. The funding, he
said,
came
from state and A&M money."



http://www.thebatt.com/news/2002/12/...y-515078.shtml


"Mr. Clinton's cost $165 million,"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Nov17.html

Oh, contrai
"Over the years, presidential libraries have evolved into
multi-purpose
institutes that, in addition to housing the official papers of a
former
President, can include museums, conference facilities, and
classrooms.
The cost of these facilities can be substantial. According to the
George Bush Presidential Library Center Construction and Fact
Sheet,
the George Bush Presidential Library Center honoring President
George
H.W. Bush cost approximately $83 million to construct; roughly half
of
that cost was defrayed by private contributions to the George Bush
Presidential Library Foundation, with the remainder funded by Texas
A&M
University. A December 6, 2001 article in The Arkansas
Democrat-Gazette
reports that construction of the Clinton Presidential Center is
expected to cost $104 million. The Clinton Presidential Library
cost
has been defrayed by private contributions in excess of $70
million,
bringing it's total taxpayer cost of only $34 million."

As you can see, it cost the taxpayer's more for Bush's legacy, than
for
Clinton's. By the way, the costliest to run and maintain? Reagan's.


Not so fast. This site shows the cost of Clintons library to be $165

million. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6521909/

Regardless, you can see that public funds often go in to pay for
political
events and structures. So why are your shorts in a knot over the
cost of
security for today's inauguration?

I said it before, but perhaps it just didn't hit your brain. Do you
recall when Bush was on the mat for not pledging enough to the Tsunami
victims? HE said that the public should donate, not the government. IF
he were a man of honor, he would now say to those donating, instead of
$40 million dollars being spent to honor ME, please send that money to
the victims. But, alas, he didn't do that, because he, and his
followers, see him as larger than life. Add to that the HUGE deficit
he's rung up in the name of BushCo War, Inc., and one could only come
to the conclusion that he doesn't give a damned about anybody but
himself and his mega-rich cronies.


Get a life.


Sorry for losing it with you but discussing things with you is like
talking to a brick wall sometimes.

Let me try again, this time with questions:

Now where did this $40 million figure come from? I thought you were
upset about the $17 million.

What was the cost of the Clinton inaugurations? How much public and
private money? Were there not disaster relief funds then that the money
could have gone to?

And just how much money has the US given and pledged to the Tsunami
victims? How much in private donations?

I really don't understand why this inauguration is bother you like it is.
Get over it already.


Asslicker is just doing the liebral goose step......as well as letting
jealousy interfer with his two brain cells......or was that the THC?







JimH January 20th 05 09:40 PM


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JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
How much did the opening of the Clinton Library cost us

Bassy?

Not as much as the George W. Bush library, and the annual
upkeep
cost
is less, too!


Really? Where is the GW Bush library located?
sorry, George H.W. Bush, College Station, TX


Can you post some figures to support your claim?

Our resident "King of the NG idiots" apparently is quite math
impaired.

"Brian Blake, public relations specialist at the Bush Library,

said
the
total cost of the library was $83 million, less than half of what

SMU
may
have access to.
Blake said the library museum cost $43 million, with private funds
from the
Bush Foundation, while the library conference center and the Bush
School of
Government and Public Service cost $40 million. The funding, he

said,
came
from state and A&M money."



http://www.thebatt.com/news/2002/12/...y-515078.shtml


"Mr. Clinton's cost $165 million,"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Nov17.html

Oh, contrai
"Over the years, presidential libraries have evolved into

multi-purpose
institutes that, in addition to housing the official papers of a

former
President, can include museums, conference facilities, and

classrooms.
The cost of these facilities can be substantial. According to the
George Bush Presidential Library Center Construction and Fact

Sheet,
the George Bush Presidential Library Center honoring President

George
H.W. Bush cost approximately $83 million to construct; roughly half

of
that cost was defrayed by private contributions to the George Bush
Presidential Library Foundation, with the remainder funded by Texas

A&M
University. A December 6, 2001 article in The Arkansas

Democrat-Gazette
reports that construction of the Clinton Presidential Center is
expected to cost $104 million. The Clinton Presidential Library

cost
has been defrayed by private contributions in excess of $70

million,
bringing it's total taxpayer cost of only $34 million."

As you can see, it cost the taxpayer's more for Bush's legacy, than

for
Clinton's. By the way, the costliest to run and maintain? Reagan's.


Not so fast. This site shows the cost of Clintons library to be $165


million. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6521909/

Regardless, you can see that public funds often go in to pay for

political
events and structures. So why are your shorts in a knot over the

cost of
security for today's inauguration?


I said it before, but perhaps it just didn't hit your brain. Do you
recall when Bush was on the mat for not pledging enough to the Tsunami
victims? HE said that the public should donate, not the government. IF
he were a man of honor, he would now say to those donating, instead of
$40 million dollars being spent to honor ME, please send that money to
the victims. But, alas, he didn't do that, because he, and his
followers, see him as larger than life.



Yangtze River floods of July and August of 1996. They cost over $19 Billion.

Hurricane Fran in September of 1996, which cost $3.4 Billion.

Hurricane Hortense in December 1996, costing $1.5 Billion.

How much of the #30 million Clinton inauguration fund went to the victims of
those disasters? Was Clinton a man of honor?

Just curious.



JohnH January 20th 05 10:37 PM

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 19:00:49 GMT, "Jim," wrote:

JimH wrote:
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On 20 Jan 2005 10:12:50 -0800, "basskisser"
wrote:


Now tell us how much the 'Oscars' cost!

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to
resolve it."
Rene Descartes



Or the previous inauguration events. Or the Super Bowl.

It seems the liberals want to deny Bush this day for some reason, even
realizing the bulk of it has been paid for by private donations.

A bit of envy perhaps?

Maybe someday they will get over their consecutive defeats.


Who gives a **** what Carter did? Perhaps Carter just didn't have the
supporters willing to pay the bucks to show him a nice time.

Grow up!

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

Calif Bill January 21st 05 06:30 AM


"basskisser" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
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JimH wrote:
How much did the opening of the Clinton Library cost us Bassy?

Not as much as the George W. Bush library, and the annual

upkeep
cost
is less, too!


Really? Where is the GW Bush library located?
sorry, George H.W. Bush, College Station, TX


Can you post some figures to support your claim?


Our resident "King of the NG idiots" apparently is quite math

impaired.

"Brian Blake, public relations specialist at the Bush Library, said

the
total cost of the library was $83 million, less than half of what SMU

may
have access to.
Blake said the library museum cost $43 million, with private funds

from the
Bush Foundation, while the library conference center and the Bush

School of
Government and Public Service cost $40 million. The funding, he said,

came
from state and A&M money."



http://www.thebatt.com/news/2002/12/...y-515078.shtml


"Mr. Clinton's cost $165 million,"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Nov17.html


Oh, contrai
"Over the years, presidential libraries have evolved into multi-purpose
institutes that, in addition to housing the official papers of a former
President, can include museums, conference facilities, and classrooms.
The cost of these facilities can be substantial. According to the
George Bush Presidential Library Center Construction and Fact Sheet,
the George Bush Presidential Library Center honoring President George
H.W. Bush cost approximately $83 million to construct; roughly half of
that cost was defrayed by private contributions to the George Bush
Presidential Library Foundation, with the remainder funded by Texas A&M
University. A December 6, 2001 article in The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette
reports that construction of the Clinton Presidential Center is
expected to cost $104 million. The Clinton Presidential Library cost
has been defrayed by private contributions in excess of $70 million,
bringing it's total taxpayer cost of only $34 million."

As you can see, it cost the taxpayer's more for Bush's legacy, than for
Clinton's. By the way, the costliest to run and maintain? Reagan's.


Where did it cost taxpayers more for the Bush library? Clinton's according
to your post cost taxpayers $34 million. And according to your post Bush's
cost the taxpayers $0. 1/2 private people money and the other 1/2 Texas A&M
money.



P.Fritz January 21st 05 12:15 PM


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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P.Fritz wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:
How much did the opening of the Clinton Library cost us Bassy?

Not as much as the George W. Bush library, and the annual

upkeep
cost
is less, too!


Really? Where is the GW Bush library located?
sorry, George H.W. Bush, College Station, TX


Can you post some figures to support your claim?

Our resident "King of the NG idiots" apparently is quite math

impaired.

"Brian Blake, public relations specialist at the Bush Library, said

the
total cost of the library was $83 million, less than half of what SMU

may
have access to.
Blake said the library museum cost $43 million, with private funds

from the
Bush Foundation, while the library conference center and the Bush

School of
Government and Public Service cost $40 million. The funding, he said,

came
from state and A&M money."



http://www.thebatt.com/news/2002/12/...y-515078.shtml


"Mr. Clinton's cost $165 million,"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Nov17.html


Oh, contrai
"Over the years, presidential libraries have evolved into multi-purpose
institutes that, in addition to housing the official papers of a former
President, can include museums, conference facilities, and classrooms.
The cost of these facilities can be substantial. According to the
George Bush Presidential Library Center Construction and Fact Sheet,
the George Bush Presidential Library Center honoring President George
H.W. Bush cost approximately $83 million to construct; roughly half of
that cost was defrayed by private contributions to the George Bush
Presidential Library Foundation, with the remainder funded by Texas A&M
University. A December 6, 2001 article in The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette
reports that construction of the Clinton Presidential Center is
expected to cost $104 million. The Clinton Presidential Library cost
has been defrayed by private contributions in excess of $70 million,
bringing it's total taxpayer cost of only $34 million."

As you can see, it cost the taxpayer's more for Bush's legacy, than for
Clinton's. By the way, the costliest to run and maintain? Reagan's.


Where did it cost taxpayers more for the Bush library? Clinton's
according
to your post cost taxpayers $34 million. And according to your post
Bush's
cost the taxpayers $0. 1/2 private people money and the other 1/2 Texas
A&M
money.


And of course, asslicker fails reveal, is that the rules changed with Bush
senior, The fed guvmint restricted the amount of fed dollars that could go
to a prez library starting with Bush I. so his 'stats' are meaningless to
begin with.






basskisser January 21st 05 12:55 PM


JimH wrote:
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JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message

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JimH wrote:
How much did the opening of the Clinton Library cost us

Bassy?

Not as much as the George W. Bush library, and the annual
upkeep
cost
is less, too!


Really? Where is the GW Bush library located?
sorry, George H.W. Bush, College Station, TX


Can you post some figures to support your claim?

Our resident "King of the NG idiots" apparently is quite math
impaired.

"Brian Blake, public relations specialist at the Bush Library,

said
the
total cost of the library was $83 million, less than half of

what
SMU
may
have access to.
Blake said the library museum cost $43 million, with private

funds
from the
Bush Foundation, while the library conference center and the

Bush
School of
Government and Public Service cost $40 million. The funding, he

said,
came
from state and A&M money."




http://www.thebatt.com/news/2002/12/...y-515078.shtml


"Mr. Clinton's cost $165 million,"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Nov17.html

Oh, contrai
"Over the years, presidential libraries have evolved into

multi-purpose
institutes that, in addition to housing the official papers of a

former
President, can include museums, conference facilities, and

classrooms.
The cost of these facilities can be substantial. According to

the
George Bush Presidential Library Center Construction and Fact

Sheet,
the George Bush Presidential Library Center honoring President

George
H.W. Bush cost approximately $83 million to construct; roughly

half
of
that cost was defrayed by private contributions to the George

Bush
Presidential Library Foundation, with the remainder funded by

Texas
A&M
University. A December 6, 2001 article in The Arkansas

Democrat-Gazette
reports that construction of the Clinton Presidential Center is
expected to cost $104 million. The Clinton Presidential Library

cost
has been defrayed by private contributions in excess of $70

million,
bringing it's total taxpayer cost of only $34 million."

As you can see, it cost the taxpayer's more for Bush's legacy,

than
for
Clinton's. By the way, the costliest to run and maintain?

Reagan's.


Not so fast. This site shows the cost of Clintons library to be

$165

million. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6521909/

Regardless, you can see that public funds often go in to pay for

political
events and structures. So why are your shorts in a knot over the

cost of
security for today's inauguration?


I said it before, but perhaps it just didn't hit your brain. Do you
recall when Bush was on the mat for not pledging enough to the

Tsunami
victims? HE said that the public should donate, not the government.

IF
he were a man of honor, he would now say to those donating, instead

of
$40 million dollars being spent to honor ME, please send that money

to
the victims. But, alas, he didn't do that, because he, and his
followers, see him as larger than life. Add to that the HUGE

deficit
he's rung up in the name of BushCo War, Inc., and one could only

come
to the conclusion that he doesn't give a damned about anybody but
himself and his mega-rich cronies.


Get a life.


As expected from you.


basskisser January 21st 05 12:56 PM


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JimH wrote:
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JimH wrote:
How much did the opening of the Clinton Library cost us
Bassy?

Not as much as the George W. Bush library, and the

annual
upkeep
cost
is less, too!


Really? Where is the GW Bush library located?
sorry, George H.W. Bush, College Station, TX


Can you post some figures to support your claim?

Our resident "King of the NG idiots" apparently is quite math
impaired.

"Brian Blake, public relations specialist at the Bush Library,
said
the
total cost of the library was $83 million, less than half of

what
SMU
may
have access to.
Blake said the library museum cost $43 million, with private

funds
from the
Bush Foundation, while the library conference center and the

Bush
School of
Government and Public Service cost $40 million. The funding,

he
said,
came
from state and A&M money."




http://www.thebatt.com/news/2002/12/...y-515078.shtml


"Mr. Clinton's cost $165 million,"


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Nov17.html

Oh, contrai
"Over the years, presidential libraries have evolved into
multi-purpose
institutes that, in addition to housing the official papers of

a
former
President, can include museums, conference facilities, and
classrooms.
The cost of these facilities can be substantial. According to

the
George Bush Presidential Library Center Construction and Fact
Sheet,
the George Bush Presidential Library Center honoring President
George
H.W. Bush cost approximately $83 million to construct; roughly

half
of
that cost was defrayed by private contributions to the George

Bush
Presidential Library Foundation, with the remainder funded by

Texas
A&M
University. A December 6, 2001 article in The Arkansas
Democrat-Gazette
reports that construction of the Clinton Presidential Center is
expected to cost $104 million. The Clinton Presidential Library
cost
has been defrayed by private contributions in excess of $70
million,
bringing it's total taxpayer cost of only $34 million."

As you can see, it cost the taxpayer's more for Bush's legacy,

than
for
Clinton's. By the way, the costliest to run and maintain?

Reagan's.


Not so fast. This site shows the cost of Clintons library to be

$165

million. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6521909/

Regardless, you can see that public funds often go in to pay for
political
events and structures. So why are your shorts in a knot over the
cost of
security for today's inauguration?

I said it before, but perhaps it just didn't hit your brain. Do

you
recall when Bush was on the mat for not pledging enough to the

Tsunami
victims? HE said that the public should donate, not the

government. IF
he were a man of honor, he would now say to those donating,

instead of
$40 million dollars being spent to honor ME, please send that

money to
the victims. But, alas, he didn't do that, because he, and his
followers, see him as larger than life. Add to that the HUGE

deficit
he's rung up in the name of BushCo War, Inc., and one could only

come
to the conclusion that he doesn't give a damned about anybody but
himself and his mega-rich cronies.


Get a life.


For asslicker........the NG is his life.


Nah, usenet is YOUR life, Paul. You need the support for raising a kid,
and you bitter divorce. I see that you've still not grown up, and
continue to act like a child.


JimH January 21st 05 12:58 PM


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JimH wrote:
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JimH wrote:
How much did the opening of the Clinton Library cost us
Bassy?

Not as much as the George W. Bush library, and the annual
upkeep
cost
is less, too!


Really? Where is the GW Bush library located?
sorry, George H.W. Bush, College Station, TX


Can you post some figures to support your claim?

Our resident "King of the NG idiots" apparently is quite math
impaired.

"Brian Blake, public relations specialist at the Bush Library,
said
the
total cost of the library was $83 million, less than half of

what
SMU
may
have access to.
Blake said the library museum cost $43 million, with private

funds
from the
Bush Foundation, while the library conference center and the

Bush
School of
Government and Public Service cost $40 million. The funding, he
said,
came
from state and A&M money."




http://www.thebatt.com/news/2002/12/...y-515078.shtml


"Mr. Clinton's cost $165 million,"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Nov17.html

Oh, contrai
"Over the years, presidential libraries have evolved into
multi-purpose
institutes that, in addition to housing the official papers of a
former
President, can include museums, conference facilities, and
classrooms.
The cost of these facilities can be substantial. According to

the
George Bush Presidential Library Center Construction and Fact
Sheet,
the George Bush Presidential Library Center honoring President
George
H.W. Bush cost approximately $83 million to construct; roughly

half
of
that cost was defrayed by private contributions to the George

Bush
Presidential Library Foundation, with the remainder funded by

Texas
A&M
University. A December 6, 2001 article in The Arkansas
Democrat-Gazette
reports that construction of the Clinton Presidential Center is
expected to cost $104 million. The Clinton Presidential Library
cost
has been defrayed by private contributions in excess of $70
million,
bringing it's total taxpayer cost of only $34 million."

As you can see, it cost the taxpayer's more for Bush's legacy,

than
for
Clinton's. By the way, the costliest to run and maintain?

Reagan's.


Not so fast. This site shows the cost of Clintons library to be

$165

million. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6521909/

Regardless, you can see that public funds often go in to pay for
political
events and structures. So why are your shorts in a knot over the
cost of
security for today's inauguration?

I said it before, but perhaps it just didn't hit your brain. Do you
recall when Bush was on the mat for not pledging enough to the

Tsunami
victims? HE said that the public should donate, not the government.

IF
he were a man of honor, he would now say to those donating, instead

of
$40 million dollars being spent to honor ME, please send that money

to
the victims. But, alas, he didn't do that, because he, and his
followers, see him as larger than life. Add to that the HUGE

deficit
he's rung up in the name of BushCo War, Inc., and one could only

come
to the conclusion that he doesn't give a damned about anybody but
himself and his mega-rich cronies.


Get a life.


As expected from you.


Yes, a momentary slip that I gracefully recovered from.

I see you have started the morning calling people idiots already. As
expected.



basskisser January 21st 05 01:09 PM


JimH wrote:


Sorry for losing it with you but discussing things with you is like

talking
to a brick wall sometimes.

Let me try again, this time with questions:

Now where did this $40 million figure come from?


It's the estimated cost of the whole event. Most comes from private
donations that could be used for better purposes at this time, if Bush
would make a stand to do so. Armor for the soldier's vehicles. Directly
related to Bush, he sent them there. Flak jackets for same. Food,
medical support, etc. for Tsunami victims.

I thought you were upset
about the $17 million.


I am. That portion is directly related to you and I, the taxpayers. I
thought you righties were for lower taxes?

What was the cost of the Clinton inaugurations? How much public and

private
money? Were there not disaster relief funds then that the money

could have
gone to?


$30 million, and that INCLUDED security. Clinton didn't need as much
security, of course, because he didn't **** off the whole world. I'm
sure there are disasters that could have used the money, BUT, what you
are failing to grasp here, is the fact that Bush actually SAID that the
private sector should be the ones donating relief to the Tsunami
victims. IF he was a man of honor, he'd have used this time to show how
that could be done.

And just how much money has the US given and pledged to the Tsunami

victims?

$350 million, a virtual drop in the bucket.

How much in private donations?


Estimated to be $322 from the U.S. alone. This does NOT count for any
private donations outside of the U.S.

I really don't understand why this inauguration is bother you like it

is.
Get over it already.


I've listed the reasons above. If you don't understand, you never will.
I love the "get over it already" comment. Hell, you STILL interject
something about Clinton in just about ANY political conversation you
get involved in here. One could say the same to you.


JimH January 21st 05 01:24 PM


"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:


Sorry for losing it with you but discussing things with you is like

talking
to a brick wall sometimes.

Let me try again, this time with questions:

Now where did this $40 million figure come from?


It's the estimated cost of the whole event. Most comes from private
donations that could be used for better purposes at this time, if Bush
would make a stand to do so. Armor for the soldier's vehicles. Directly
related to Bush, he sent them there. Flak jackets for same. Food,
medical support, etc. for Tsunami victims.

I thought you were upset
about the $17 million.


I am. That portion is directly related to you and I, the taxpayers. I
thought you righties were for lower taxes?

What was the cost of the Clinton inaugurations? How much public and

private
money? Were there not disaster relief funds then that the money

could have
gone to?


$30 million, and that INCLUDED security. Clinton didn't need as much
security, of course, because he didn't **** off the whole world. I'm
sure there are disasters that could have used the money, BUT, what you
are failing to grasp here, is the fact that Bush actually SAID that the
private sector should be the ones donating relief to the Tsunami
victims. IF he was a man of honor, he'd have used this time to show how
that could be done.

And just how much money has the US given and pledged to the Tsunami

victims?

$350 million, a virtual drop in the bucket.

How much in private donations?


Estimated to be $322 from the U.S. alone. This does NOT count for any
private donations outside of the U.S.

I really don't understand why this inauguration is bother you like it

is.
Get over it already.


I've listed the reasons above. If you don't understand, you never will.
I love the "get over it already" comment. Hell, you STILL interject
something about Clinton in just about ANY political conversation you
get involved in here. One could say the same to you.


I interject Clinton only as a comparison. You find that unfair? How so?

Here is a nice news story for you on US emergency relief donations:

"....foreign assistance for development and emergency relief rose from $10
billion in President Clinton's last year to $24 billion under President Bush
in 2003. Secretary of State Colin Powell said assistance for this week's
earthquake and tsunamis alone will eventually exceed $1 billion. "

Back to the discussion. You failed to answer these questions:

What was the breakdown of public and private money spent for the Clinton
inaugural in 1996?

Were there disasters in 1996 that the private money could have been donated
to instead of the inaugural?

And a new question. Of the $17 million spent on security for the GWB 2nd
inaugural, how much involved permanent security hardware and upgrades that
will continue to improve security in DC for years to come?



P.Fritz January 21st 05 01:27 PM


"JimH" wrote in message
...

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

P.Fritz wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message

ups.com...

JimH wrote:
How much did the opening of the Clinton Library cost us
Bassy?

Not as much as the George W. Bush library, and the annual
upkeep
cost
is less, too!


Really? Where is the GW Bush library located?
sorry, George H.W. Bush, College Station, TX


Can you post some figures to support your claim?

Our resident "King of the NG idiots" apparently is quite math
impaired.

"Brian Blake, public relations specialist at the Bush Library,
said
the
total cost of the library was $83 million, less than half of

what
SMU
may
have access to.
Blake said the library museum cost $43 million, with private

funds
from the
Bush Foundation, while the library conference center and the

Bush
School of
Government and Public Service cost $40 million. The funding, he
said,
came
from state and A&M money."




http://www.thebatt.com/news/2002/12/...y-515078.shtml


"Mr. Clinton's cost $165 million,"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Nov17.html

Oh, contrai
"Over the years, presidential libraries have evolved into
multi-purpose
institutes that, in addition to housing the official papers of a
former
President, can include museums, conference facilities, and
classrooms.
The cost of these facilities can be substantial. According to

the
George Bush Presidential Library Center Construction and Fact
Sheet,
the George Bush Presidential Library Center honoring President
George
H.W. Bush cost approximately $83 million to construct; roughly

half
of
that cost was defrayed by private contributions to the George

Bush
Presidential Library Foundation, with the remainder funded by

Texas
A&M
University. A December 6, 2001 article in The Arkansas
Democrat-Gazette
reports that construction of the Clinton Presidential Center is
expected to cost $104 million. The Clinton Presidential Library
cost
has been defrayed by private contributions in excess of $70
million,
bringing it's total taxpayer cost of only $34 million."

As you can see, it cost the taxpayer's more for Bush's legacy,

than
for
Clinton's. By the way, the costliest to run and maintain?

Reagan's.


Not so fast. This site shows the cost of Clintons library to be

$165

million. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6521909/

Regardless, you can see that public funds often go in to pay for
political
events and structures. So why are your shorts in a knot over the
cost of
security for today's inauguration?

I said it before, but perhaps it just didn't hit your brain. Do you
recall when Bush was on the mat for not pledging enough to the

Tsunami
victims? HE said that the public should donate, not the government.

IF
he were a man of honor, he would now say to those donating, instead

of
$40 million dollars being spent to honor ME, please send that money

to
the victims. But, alas, he didn't do that, because he, and his
followers, see him as larger than life. Add to that the HUGE

deficit
he's rung up in the name of BushCo War, Inc., and one could only

come
to the conclusion that he doesn't give a damned about anybody but
himself and his mega-rich cronies.


Get a life.


As expected from you.


Yes, a momentary slip that I gracefully recovered from.

I see you have started the morning calling people idiots already. As
expected.


The funny thing is all the whining and nashing of teeth the liebrals did
about the inaugural balls........they were not about Bush himself, rather a
celebration for the many who supported his campaign......Bush spent all of
nine minutes 'dancing' and was back at the WH at 10pm... The poor liebrals
like asslick still don't get it.







JimH January 21st 05 01:44 PM



I really don't understand why this inauguration is bother you like it

is.
Get over it already.


I've listed the reasons above. If you don't understand, you never will.
I love the "get over it already" comment. Hell, you STILL interject
something about Clinton in just about ANY political conversation you
get involved in here. One could say the same to you.


You are right. I should not have brought up the cost of Clinton's 1997
inaugural event and compared it the this recent one. 9-11 had not yet
happened in January 1997 and thus no need for high security and tremendous
security costs. Therefore it is not fair to compare the two.

Sorry. My mistake.



basskisser January 21st 05 01:59 PM


JimH wrote:

I really don't understand why this inauguration is bother you like

it
is.
Get over it already.


I've listed the reasons above. If you don't understand, you never

will.
I love the "get over it already" comment. Hell, you STILL interject
something about Clinton in just about ANY political conversation

you
get involved in here. One could say the same to you.


You are right. I should not have brought up the cost of Clinton's

1997
inaugural event and compared it the this recent one. 9-11 had not

yet
happened in January 1997 and thus no need for high security and

tremendous
security costs. Therefore it is not fair to compare the two.

Sorry. My mistake.


911 has nothing to do with it. There was, during Clinton's term, just
as much a chance that THAT could happen, as there is now. What IS
different, is that BushCo has succeeded in dividing the U.S. into a
lone entity, essentially ****ing off the rest of the world.


JimH January 21st 05 02:05 PM


"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:

I really don't understand why this inauguration is bother you like

it
is.
Get over it already.

I've listed the reasons above. If you don't understand, you never

will.
I love the "get over it already" comment. Hell, you STILL interject
something about Clinton in just about ANY political conversation

you
get involved in here. One could say the same to you.


You are right. I should not have brought up the cost of Clinton's

1997
inaugural event and compared it the this recent one. 9-11 had not

yet
happened in January 1997 and thus no need for high security and

tremendous
security costs. Therefore it is not fair to compare the two.

Sorry. My mistake.


911 has nothing to do with it. There was, during Clinton's term, just
as much a chance that THAT could happen, as there is now.


You obviously cannot discuss the facts and therefore there is no reason to
continue this discussion with you.



P.Fritz January 21st 05 02:28 PM


"JimH" wrote in message
...

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:

I really don't understand why this inauguration is bother you like

it
is.
Get over it already.

I've listed the reasons above. If you don't understand, you never

will.
I love the "get over it already" comment. Hell, you STILL interject
something about Clinton in just about ANY political conversation

you
get involved in here. One could say the same to you.


You are right. I should not have brought up the cost of Clinton's

1997
inaugural event and compared it the this recent one. 9-11 had not

yet
happened in January 1997 and thus no need for high security and

tremendous
security costs. Therefore it is not fair to compare the two.

Sorry. My mistake.


911 has nothing to do with it. There was, during Clinton's term, just
as much a chance that THAT could happen, as there is now.


You obviously cannot discuss the facts and therefore there is no reason to
continue this discussion with you.


Asslicker is too busy trying to figure out what that whoooshing sound he
keeps hearing over his head.






basskisser January 21st 05 05:13 PM


JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:

I really don't understand why this inauguration is bother you

like
it
is.
Get over it already.

I've listed the reasons above. If you don't understand, you

never
will.
I love the "get over it already" comment. Hell, you STILL

interject
something about Clinton in just about ANY political conversation

you
get involved in here. One could say the same to you.


You are right. I should not have brought up the cost of Clinton's

1997
inaugural event and compared it the this recent one. 9-11 had not

yet
happened in January 1997 and thus no need for high security and

tremendous
security costs. Therefore it is not fair to compare the two.

Sorry. My mistake.


911 has nothing to do with it. There was, during Clinton's term,

just
as much a chance that THAT could happen, as there is now.


You obviously cannot discuss the facts and therefore there is no

reason to
continue this discussion with you.


I told you all of the "facts". Perhaps they didn't hit your gray
matter.


basskisser January 21st 05 05:18 PM


P.Fritz wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:

I really don't understand why this inauguration is bother you

like
it
is.
Get over it already.

I've listed the reasons above. If you don't understand, you

never
will.
I love the "get over it already" comment. Hell, you STILL

interject
something about Clinton in just about ANY political

conversation
you
get involved in here. One could say the same to you.


You are right. I should not have brought up the cost of

Clinton's
1997
inaugural event and compared it the this recent one. 9-11 had

not
yet
happened in January 1997 and thus no need for high security and
tremendous
security costs. Therefore it is not fair to compare the two.

Sorry. My mistake.

911 has nothing to do with it. There was, during Clinton's term,

just
as much a chance that THAT could happen, as there is now.


You obviously cannot discuss the facts and therefore there is no

reason to
continue this discussion with you.


Asslicker is too busy trying to figure out what that whoooshing sound

he
keeps hearing over his head.


Paul, I see that you still can't act like an adult, and must resort to
petty childish name calling in lieu of actually debating a subject.
How's the child rearing coming along? Has alt.support.parenting gotten
you on track yet, so that you can actually perform the function of
parent, or do you still need help? It's pretty pathetic that people
like you breed, and then don't have the very basic skills required to
raise what they've spawned.


Bert Robbins March 21st 05 12:50 AM


"DSK" wrote in message
...
P.Fritz wrote:
Ilove the way the liebral pull in the FDR one......he was at death's door
at the time.


"Death's door at the time" ...really? I guess you're an expert medical
historian and have reviewed FDR's health files?

And how is this relevant to the cost of his 4th inauguration? It was
wartime, this is wartime... at least, the Bush Administration often
proclaims it to be.



The 17 mil from DC is from federal dollars.


Really? Are you sure?


The 40 mil is from private contributions


Actually, it isn't. It is wholly funded by your tax dollars, and mine. The
Republican Party *hopes* to raise private donations to offset a large
percent of this expense, but they don't have the money in hand yet and
don't claim to.

Of course, when you've spent $80 million investigating a blow job, maybe
$40 mill for a coronation is just chickenfeed.


Chuck, are you going to talk to DSK about his fixation with Clinton's sex
life?




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