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NOYB January 20th 05 03:11 PM

OT--Why some feel Condi shouldn't be Secretary of State
 
"The Klan is needed today as never before.

I should rather die a thousand times and see old glory trampled in the dirt
never to rise again than see this beloved land of ours become degraded by
race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen of the wilds."






basskisser January 20th 05 03:37 PM


NOYB wrote:
"The Klan is needed today as never before.

I should rather die a thousand times and see old glory trampled in

the dirt
never to rise again than see this beloved land of ours become

degraded by
race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen of the wilds."


I don't think she should be Sec. of State, either. But, not because of
the above, but because she is nothing but an unqualified puppet.


JimH January 20th 05 03:54 PM


"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

NOYB wrote:
"The Klan is needed today as never before.

I should rather die a thousand times and see old glory trampled in

the dirt
never to rise again than see this beloved land of ours become

degraded by
race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen of the wilds."


I don't think she should be Sec. of State, either. But, not because of
the above, but because she is nothing but an unqualified puppet.


Wow, that is not what Kerry said. He called her more than qualified and
very capable of doing the job.

The majority of Democrats in the Senate also approved her.



[email protected] January 20th 05 04:21 PM

Gee whiz, NOYB. You have never ever really mentioned being religious.


http://www.awkkkk.org/kludd/kluddkorner.htm

Can we assume you're posting what "some" feel because it is what you
feel as well?


Doug Kanter January 20th 05 04:23 PM


"JimH" wrote in message
...

"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

NOYB wrote:
"The Klan is needed today as never before.

I should rather die a thousand times and see old glory trampled in

the dirt
never to rise again than see this beloved land of ours become

degraded by
race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen of the wilds."


I don't think she should be Sec. of State, either. But, not because of
the above, but because she is nothing but an unqualified puppet.


Wow, that is not what Kerry said. He called her more than qualified and
very capable of doing the job.

The majority of Democrats in the Senate also approved her.


......with a few major qualifications, almost equivalent to a probationary
period. Pay attention to what you heard on the news.



basskisser January 20th 05 05:21 PM


JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

NOYB wrote:
"The Klan is needed today as never before.

I should rather die a thousand times and see old glory trampled in

the dirt
never to rise again than see this beloved land of ours become

degraded by
race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen of the wilds."


I don't think she should be Sec. of State, either. But, not because

of
the above, but because she is nothing but an unqualified puppet.


Wow, that is not what Kerry said. He called her more than qualified

and
very capable of doing the job.

The majority of Democrats in the Senate also approved her.

So what? Kerry was trying to be nice to the mutt. What is your point?


JimH January 20th 05 05:25 PM


"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

NOYB wrote:
"The Klan is needed today as never before.

I should rather die a thousand times and see old glory trampled in
the dirt
never to rise again than see this beloved land of ours become
degraded by
race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen of the wilds."

I don't think she should be Sec. of State, either. But, not because

of
the above, but because she is nothing but an unqualified puppet.


Wow, that is not what Kerry said. He called her more than qualified

and
very capable of doing the job.

The majority of Democrats in the Senate also approved her.

So what? Kerry was trying to be nice to the mutt. What is your point?


Wooooooooooooooooooosssssssssshhhhhhhhhh!!!!



NOYB January 20th 05 05:33 PM


wrote in message
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Gee whiz, NOYB. You have never ever really mentioned being religious.


http://www.awkkkk.org/kludd/kluddkorner.htm

Can we assume you're posting what "some" feel because it is what you
feel as well?


Hehehe. Nice try, but wrong.

The author is Democratic Senator Robert Byrd...who is now spear-heading the
opposition to Rice.






basskisser January 20th 05 06:09 PM


JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

JimH wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

NOYB wrote:
"The Klan is needed today as never before.

I should rather die a thousand times and see old glory trampled

in
the dirt
never to rise again than see this beloved land of ours become
degraded by
race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen of the

wilds."

I don't think she should be Sec. of State, either. But, not

because
of
the above, but because she is nothing but an unqualified puppet.


Wow, that is not what Kerry said. He called her more than

qualified
and
very capable of doing the job.

The majority of Democrats in the Senate also approved her.

So what? Kerry was trying to be nice to the mutt. What is your

point?


Wooooooooooooooooooosssssssssshhhhhhhhhh!!!!


Well, Jim, why don't YOU explain it?? What does something that Kerry
said about Rice, have ANYTHING to do with what *I* feel about her???


[email protected] January 20th 05 06:56 PM

From what I read, the "opposition to Rice" is pretty inconsequential,
and is "spearheaded" by
Barbara Boxer and John Kerry. Any opposition is strictly ceremonial,
and because some lowlife rightwingers with bad intentions might decide
to play the race card in reverse, ("They couldn't possibly be opposed
to Rice on philosophical or politcal grounds, its only because she's a
woman and/or she's black....."), and because in dumbed down America
that little sound byte would resonate better than an accurate, more
complex answer- opposing Rice could take a toll when the next election
comes around.

It wouldn't even matter if liberal black people refered to her as
"Uncle Tom's Brown Rice," it's still politically dangerous to expose
ones flank to the few right wing hypocrites ready to yell "racism!"

As long as the Republicans hold congress, Bush can push anybody through
he likes. We could see Ken Lay as Secty. of the Treasury. Who knows?
He's a close friend of GWB's and we still might.


NOYB January 20th 05 08:42 PM


wrote in message
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From what I read, the "opposition to Rice" is pretty inconsequential,

and is "spearheaded" by
Barbara Boxer and John Kerry. Any opposition is strictly ceremonial,
and because some lowlife rightwingers with bad intentions might decide
to play the race card in reverse, ("They couldn't possibly be opposed
to Rice on philosophical or politcal grounds, its only because she's a
woman and/or she's black....."),


How is it "the race card in reverse"? Is Rice not black?

Regardless of what you may have heard to the contrary, Byrd is definitely
one of the Democratic Senators who is spearheading the opposition. Given
his history as a member in the KKK, one must consider racism as part of his
motivation.







Wayne.B January 20th 05 08:43 PM

On 20 Jan 2005 10:56:51 -0800, wrote:

We could see Ken Lay as Secty. of the Treasury. Who knows?
He's a close friend of GWB's and we still might.


=========================================

Ken could certainly find a way to balance the books and close the
trade gap.

For a time.

How's boating in the PNW these days?


Jack Goff January 20th 05 11:19 PM


"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

wrote in message
oups.com...
From what I read, the "opposition to Rice" is pretty inconsequential,

and is "spearheaded" by
Barbara Boxer and John Kerry. Any opposition is strictly ceremonial,
and because some lowlife rightwingers with bad intentions might decide
to play the race card in reverse, ("They couldn't possibly be opposed
to Rice on philosophical or politcal grounds, its only because she's a
woman and/or she's black....."),


How is it "the race card in reverse"? Is Rice not black?


Because it's normally the low-life libs that play the race card. And play
it, and play it....





Tamaroak January 21st 05 12:34 AM

I couldn't have put it better myself.

Capt. jeff

NOYB January 21st 05 01:30 AM


"Jack Goff" wrote in message
. com...

"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

wrote in message
oups.com...
From what I read, the "opposition to Rice" is pretty inconsequential,
and is "spearheaded" by
Barbara Boxer and John Kerry. Any opposition is strictly ceremonial,
and because some lowlife rightwingers with bad intentions might decide
to play the race card in reverse, ("They couldn't possibly be opposed
to Rice on philosophical or politcal grounds, its only because she's a
woman and/or she's black....."),


How is it "the race card in reverse"? Is Rice not black?


Because it's normally the low-life libs that play the race card.


I wanted Gould to admit that.



NOYB January 21st 05 01:31 AM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"The Klan is needed today as never before.

I should rather die a thousand times and see old glory trampled in the
dirt never to rise again than see this beloved land of ours become
degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen of the
wilds."






Was this the rallying cry at the meeting you attended?


I was doing undercover research. Byrd was the Grand Kleagle.



[email protected] January 21st 05 06:12 AM

NOYB wrote:

How is it "the race card in reverse"? Is Rice not black?

Regardless of what you may have heard to the contrary, Byrd is
definitely
one of the Democratic Senators who is spearheading the opposition.
Given
his history as a member in the KKK, one must consider racism as part of
his
motivation.


**************

And that Byrd quote is several years old, and had nothing specifically
to do with Condi Rice's nomination. *You* dredged it up, and tossed it
out as though it were an accurate reflection of somebody's personal
feelings about Rice's qualifications to be SOS.

You don't get it. It's possible to oppose a black person without
oppposing that person *because* they're black. It takes a fairly
colorblind person to realize this.


[email protected] January 21st 05 06:16 AM

Jack Goff wrote:

Because it's normally the low-life libs that play the race card. And
play
it, and play it....

******************************************

At least Jack recognizes that somebody yelling, "They only oppose Rice
because she's a black woman" is playing the race card. As far as his
opinion that some other group does it more or less often,,,,,,,that's
not relevant to our examination of whether or not NOYB has done it here.


[email protected] January 21st 05 06:23 AM

NOYB wrote:

I was doing undercover research. Byrd was the Grand Kleagle.

*********************

Bull****. Byrd made that statement about the Klan being needed more
than ever before in a letter he wrote in 1946. You weren't even born
then. Maybe your parents weren't even born then.
We know for a fact Condi Rice wasn't born then. How ridiculous to
state, or even imply, that his opinion of 59 years ago is driving his
actions today. How false to state or imply that such a statement
reflects his feelings toward a specific individual.

As I said, it's the race card in reverse.

What's the dumbest, most shameful thing you ever said? Here's hoping it
hounds you for 60 years.


NOYB January 21st 05 01:00 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...
NOYB wrote:

I was doing undercover research. Byrd was the Grand Kleagle.

*********************

Bull****. Byrd made that statement about the Klan being needed more
than ever before in a letter he wrote in 1946. You weren't even born
then. Maybe your parents weren't even born then.


I wasn't born when the Nazis were murdering Jews either. So what's your
point? Transgressions don't count unless they happened in the last 33
years?

We know for a fact Condi Rice wasn't born then. How ridiculous to
state, or even imply, that his opinion of 59 years ago is driving his
actions today. How false to state or imply that such a statement
reflects his feelings toward a specific individual.


Leopards don't change their spots, Chuck. If the guy let the N-word
accidently slip 59 years ago, that'd be one thing. But he was a leader in
one of the most hateful of the hate groups in our nation's history. How
many peoples' blood is on Byrd's hands thanks to the hateful talk coming
from their Grand Kleagle?

Here's an apt analogy: Has anybody forgiven the Nazis who went into hiding
after WWII? Nope. Then why are Klan members (particularly Klan *leaders*)
absolved of *their* sins?

It's a ****ed up political party that openly accepts former KKK leaders into
their ranks.


As I said, it's the race card in reverse.


I know that you said it. You just haven't demonstrated how it's "the race
card in reverse". Rice is black. Byrd was a leader in the KKK when he
called black people mongrels. Just becaue he hasn't donned a hood in 40
years, doesn't mean he no longer harbors those feelings.

BTW--how many years ago did Byrd publicly use the word "******" again? I'm
pretty sure that it was in the last decade or so.


What's the dumbest, most shameful thing you ever said?


I think that I once called you intelligent. So you're right...I'm
embarassed.



basskisser January 21st 05 02:02 PM


NOYB wrote:

Leopards don't change their spots, Chuck.


Really? People can't change? You need to get your blinders off and look
around you.


NOYB January 21st 05 02:13 PM


wrote in message
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less often,,,,,,,that's not


Tuuk? Is that you?

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,



[email protected] January 21st 05 06:31 PM

NOYB wrote:

Leopards don't change their spots, Chuck

************************

I wasn't aware that Byrd was a leopard, or that the characteristics of
his personal, physical appearance were the issue. His statements in
1946 were reprehensible.
That doesn't mean that he was frozen in time and didn't evolve, along
with the rest of society, to a more tolerant attitude and a positive
appreciation of the differences between various groups of people. In
1946, a probable majority of white southerners empathized, if not
actively agreed, with Byrd's opinion. Look at the guy that's just now
up on trial for killing the civil rights activists down south in the
early 60's--- an entire community conspired to hide and protect him for
40 years.

You threw that old quote in here without a disclosure that it was 59
years out of date, and with a hope that some simpleton would conclude
it was something Byrd actually said about Rice.
Check the title of this thread.......who wrote that?


NOYB January 21st 05 07:07 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...
NOYB wrote:
Look at the guy that's just now
up on trial for killing the civil rights activists down south in the
early 60's--- an entire community conspired to hide and protect him for
40 years.


Just like the Democratic party continues to protect Byrd for 59 years, eh?

If that guy is being held to account 40 years later, why isn't the same
being done to Byrd?





NOYB January 21st 05 07:08 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
wrote:
NOYB wrote:

Leopards don't change their spots, Chuck

************************

I wasn't aware that Byrd was a leopard, or that the characteristics of
his personal, physical appearance were the issue. His statements in
1946 were reprehensible.
That doesn't mean that he was frozen in time and didn't evolve, along
with the rest of society, to a more tolerant attitude and a positive
appreciation of the differences between various groups of people. In
1946, a probable majority of white southerners empathized, if not
actively agreed, with Byrd's opinion. Look at the guy that's just now
up on trial for killing the civil rights activists down south in the
early 60's--- an entire community conspired to hide and protect him for
40 years.

You threw that old quote in here without a disclosure that it was 59
years out of date, and with a hope that some simpleton would conclude
it was something Byrd actually said about Rice.
Check the title of this thread.......who wrote that?



I think Condi Rice is lying pondscum. But, then, I think most of the Bush
administration is lying pondscum. They're lying pondscum, regardless of
their race, gender, or planet of origin.


I think Byrd is a piece of ****. But, then, I think most of the Democratic
Party are pieces of ****. They're pieces of ****, regardless of their race,
gender, or planet of origin.



JohnH January 21st 05 10:44 PM

On 20 Jan 2005 22:23:24 -0800, wrote:

NOYB wrote:

I was doing undercover research. Byrd was the Grand Kleagle.

*********************

Bull****. Byrd made that statement about the Klan being needed more
than ever before in a letter he wrote in 1946. You weren't even born
then. Maybe your parents weren't even born then.
We know for a fact Condi Rice wasn't born then. How ridiculous to
state, or even imply, that his opinion of 59 years ago is driving his
actions today. How false to state or imply that such a statement
reflects his feelings toward a specific individual.

As I said, it's the race card in reverse.

What's the dumbest, most shameful thing you ever said? Here's hoping it
hounds you for 60 years.


Thank God that Byrd, Kerry, and Boxer don't represent the majority of
liberals.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

Jack Goff January 22nd 05 02:34 AM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
I think Condi Rice is lying pondscum. But, then, I think most of the
Bush administration is lying pondscum. They're lying pondscum,
regardless of their race, gender, or planet of origin.


They're union?



Jack Goff January 22nd 05 02:39 AM


wrote in message
oups.com...
Jack Goff wrote:

Because it's normally the low-life libs that play the race card. And
play
it, and play it....

******************************************

At least Jack recognizes that somebody yelling, "They only oppose Rice
because she's a black woman" is playing the race card. As far as his
opinion that some other group does it more or less often,,,,,,,that's
not relevant to our examination of whether or not NOYB has done it here.


But it is relevant when judging your statement that "lowlife rightwingers
with bad intentions might decide
to play the race card in reverse". If just a tactic, it's a play straight
out of the lowlife playbook of the lowlife Democratic Party. If true, it
sinks the lowlife lib's boat, eh?





[email protected] January 22nd 05 06:17 AM

wrote in message
oups.com...



NOYB wrote:
Look at the guy that's just now
up on trial for killing the civil rights activists down south in the
early 60's--- an entire community conspired to hide and protect him

for
40 years.



Just like the Democratic party continues to protect Byrd for 59 years,
eh?

If that guy is being held to account 40 years later, why isn't the same

being done to Byrd?


*******************

Are you saying Byrd committed a murder?

There's a difference between being associated with a now discredited
group and even making a ridiculous remark associated with that group
and actually killing people.
What charges should Byrd be "brought to account" for? Being a democrat?


Bert Robbins March 21st 05 12:49 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...
NOYB wrote:

I was doing undercover research. Byrd was the Grand Kleagle.

*********************

Bull****. Byrd made that statement about the Klan being needed more
than ever before in a letter he wrote in 1946. You weren't even born
then. Maybe your parents weren't even born then.
We know for a fact Condi Rice wasn't born then. How ridiculous to
state, or even imply, that his opinion of 59 years ago is driving his
actions today. How false to state or imply that such a statement
reflects his feelings toward a specific individual.

As I said, it's the race card in reverse.

What's the dumbest, most shameful thing you ever said? Here's hoping it
hounds you for 60 years.


Byrd is a racist and has always been a racist and will be a racist until he
dies. He is a disgrace to the Democratic party but, they are too afraid to
call him on the carpet and then throw him out.



Bert Robbins March 22nd 05 12:54 AM


wrote in message
oups.com...
NOYB wrote:

Leopards don't change their spots, Chuck

************************

I wasn't aware that Byrd was a leopard, or that the characteristics of
his personal, physical appearance were the issue. His statements in
1946 were reprehensible.
That doesn't mean that he was frozen in time and didn't evolve, along
with the rest of society, to a more tolerant attitude and a positive
appreciation of the differences between various groups of people. In
1946, a probable majority of white southerners empathized, if not
actively agreed, with Byrd's opinion. Look at the guy that's just now
up on trial for killing the civil rights activists down south in the
early 60's--- an entire community conspired to hide and protect him for
40 years.

You threw that old quote in here without a disclosure that it was 59
years out of date, and with a hope that some simpleton would conclude
it was something Byrd actually said about Rice.
Check the title of this thread.......who wrote that?


Sen. Robert Byrd used the N-word on TV within the last five or six years
while he was being interviewed for one of the Sunday shows.

Byrd is a racist and has always been a racist.

Byrd is an elitist and has always been one.

Byrd is an narcissist and has always been a narcissist. Byrd's narcissism is
in evidence by the naming of anything and everything as the Robert C. Byrd
building for federal stuff.

West Virginia, the US Senate and the USA will be a better place once Robert
C. Byrd is dead and buried along with all of his other Southern Democrat
buddies.






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