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![]() "Tinkerntom" wrote in message ups.com... riverman, what are the odds of disaster? Is that what we are trying to figure out? How far can we go to the edge of the safety net, and not fall out. For each of us the safety net is at a different point, all things considered! I came across this interesting article that I think might apply: The Odds of Disaster - http://tinyurl.com/646ot That IS an interesting article; I suggest everyone read it! Good find, tom. The summary is both important and counterintuitive: Providing such things as insurance cause people to assume higher risks; a process called "moral hazard". Drivers drive worse because they are covered. People take health risks because they are covered. The climbers in the story took out insurance on their climb, because a certain baseline of protection is wise, but similarly they knew that too much protection causes moral hazard, so they chose NOT to carry their satellite phone on the climb, as it would have made them take more risks, thinking rescue was only a phone call away. To me, that underscores the importance of recognizing the essential, but minimal safety precautions we should take. Too much protection = too much moral hazard (as a raft guide, we knew about this 20 years ago, when we decided NOT to give our clients helmets. We called it the 'gladiator syndrome': give them helmets and they feel invincible and inevitably get hurt more often than if they feel a bit vulnerable.) One way of analysing the - go/no go - scenario, is to consider threshold factor. Such as threshold temps when hazardous results are certain. Can you as an experienced kayaker, define those thresholds for those of us who don't have the experience. I'm a canoeist, not a kayaker, but your question is well-taken. The response is; if not me, then who? As a beginner kayaker, are YOU qualified to define those thresholds? I think not...which is why we have such things as protocols (minimal acceptable gear, safety procedures, etc). Which is also why it is so crucial that things like the Rating Scale are well-understood, accurate, and provide enough info to be useful. Not sure where this post and reply are coming from (you didn't include any hint as to what post you were responding to), but this is really interesting anyway. --riverman |