Bill Cole wrote:
JPS,
Harry explained to us that the problem with US manufacturing has nothing to
do with labor unions, it is that management is poor. Is Harry one of the
people that I should listen to in the NG or is he one of the radical
conservatives?

Bill



Dropped on your head too many times, fella?

Whatever problems a business has, they are a creation of management. Is
that too simple for you to understand?

Poor quality on the assembly line? Then you haven't trained or motivated
your workforce properly. Costs of manufacturing too high? Then you
haven't invested enough in plant modernization, training or even
cross-training. Workforce has a bad attitude? Then you have worse managers.

Virtually everything adverse that takes place at work is the creation of
management, either because it handle its job badly or not at all.

Sometimes I lecture on trade unionization and am asked by members of the
audience, "Well, what kind of unions will we have if we are unionized?"

My answer always is the same:

"Precisely the kinds of unions you deserve."

Recently, I rented an almost new Pontiac from AVIS. The car was
assembled properly, but from a design and engineering perspective, it
was third rate. Was that the fault of the unionized workforce. Hardly.
The car was the product of GM management.



--
* * *
email sent to will *never* get to me.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news
Bill Cole wrote:
JPS,
Harry explained to us that the problem with US manufacturing has nothing
to
do with labor unions, it is that management is poor. Is Harry one of
the
people that I should listen to in the NG or is he one of the radical
conservatives?

Bill



Dropped on your head too many times, fella?

Whatever problems a business has, they are a creation of management. Is
that too simple for you to understand?

Poor quality on the assembly line? Then you haven't trained or motivated
your workforce properly. Costs of manufacturing too high? Then you
haven't invested enough in plant modernization, training or even
cross-training. Workforce has a bad attitude? Then you have worse
managers.

Virtually everything adverse that takes place at work is the creation of
management, either because it handle its job badly or not at all.


Since pay should be commensurate with the level of responsibility you have,
then by your argument, management deserves the money they get...and the line
workers with "no responsibility" should get paid very little.







Sometimes I lecture on trade unionization and am asked by members of the
audience, "Well, what kind of unions will we have if we are unionized?"

My answer always is the same:

"Precisely the kinds of unions you deserve."

Recently, I rented an almost new Pontiac from AVIS. The car was
assembled properly, but from a design and engineering perspective, it
was third rate. Was that the fault of the unionized workforce. Hardly.
The car was the product of GM management.

The car was the product of GM management being squeezed by such high labor
rates, that they have to cut corners in order to put together a piece of
hardware at a competitive price.

Harry,
I agree with you, the problem with American Corporations is poor managers,
we need to either move overseas and use foreign managers or import us some
of those good managers.

Obviously, if all problems are the result of managers, we need to get rid of
the son of bitches.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news
Bill Cole wrote:
JPS,
Harry explained to us that the problem with US manufacturing has nothing
to
do with labor unions, it is that management is poor. Is Harry one of
the
people that I should listen to in the NG or is he one of the radical
conservatives?

Bill



Dropped on your head too many times, fella?

Whatever problems a business has, they are a creation of management. Is
that too simple for you to understand?

Poor quality on the assembly line? Then you haven't trained or motivated
your workforce properly. Costs of manufacturing too high? Then you
haven't invested enough in plant modernization, training or even
cross-training. Workforce has a bad attitude? Then you have worse
managers.

Virtually everything adverse that takes place at work is the creation of
management, either because it handle its job badly or not at all.

Sometimes I lecture on trade unionization and am asked by members of the
audience, "Well, what kind of unions will we have if we are unionized?"

My answer always is the same:

"Precisely the kinds of unions you deserve."

Recently, I rented an almost new Pontiac from AVIS. The car was
assembled properly, but from a design and engineering perspective, it
was third rate. Was that the fault of the unionized workforce. Hardly.
The car was the product of GM management.



--
* * *
email sent to will *never* get to me.

Bill Cole wrote:
Harry,
I agree with you, the problem with American Corporations is poor managers,
we need to either move overseas and use foreign managers or import us some
of those good managers.

Obviously, if all problems are the result of managers, we need to get rid of
the son of bitches.


You seem simple-minded enough to be a right-wing Bush supporter...


--
* * *
email sent to will *never* get to me.

Wrong, I am not a Bush supporter, but you position is so ridiculous it is
amazing that anyone with such a low IQ could figure out how to turn on a
computer.

Do you use your local library to access rec.boats? I understand the
librarians are very helpful.

Bill

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bill Cole wrote:
Harry,
I agree with you, the problem with American Corporations is poor
managers,
we need to either move overseas and use foreign managers or import us
some
of those good managers.

Obviously, if all problems are the result of managers, we need to get
rid of
the son of bitches.


You seem simple-minded enough to be a right-wing Bush supporter...


--
* * *
email sent to will *never* get to me.

Bill Cole wrote:
Wrong, I am not a Bush supporter, but you position is so ridiculous it is
amazing that anyone with such a low IQ could figure out how to turn on a
computer.

Do you use your local library to access rec.boats? I understand the
librarians are very helpful.

Bill

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bill Cole wrote:
Harry,
I agree with you, the problem with American Corporations is poor
managers,
we need to either move overseas and use foreign managers or import us
some
of those good managers.

Obviously, if all problems are the result of managers, we need to get
rid of
the son of bitches.


You seem simple-minded enough to be a right-wing Bush supporter...


--
* * *
email sent to will *never* get to me.





Oh? Is it your position that management is NOT responsible for what
happens in an auto factory? Nothing significant happens on the factory
floor without it being an effect of management's cause, not in the
United States.

--
* * *
email sent to will *never* get to me.

Well, if we have the best workers in the world, and management is not able
to utilize this wonderful, highly productive workforce and still be
competitive in the marketplace, it makes sense to ship the jobs overseas
where they can hire some effective managers that will allow them to be
competitive.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bill Cole wrote:
Wrong, I am not a Bush supporter, but you position is so ridiculous it
is
amazing that anyone with such a low IQ could figure out how to turn on a
computer.

Do you use your local library to access rec.boats? I understand the
librarians are very helpful.

Bill

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bill Cole wrote:
Harry,
I agree with you, the problem with American Corporations is poor
managers,
we need to either move overseas and use foreign managers or import us
some
of those good managers.

Obviously, if all problems are the result of managers, we need to get
rid of
the son of bitches.


You seem simple-minded enough to be a right-wing Bush supporter...


--
* * *
email sent to will *never* get to me.





Oh? Is it your position that management is NOT responsible for what
happens in an auto factory? Nothing significant happens on the factory
floor without it being an effect of management's cause, not in the
United States.

--
* * *
email sent to will *never* get to me.