On 08 Jan 2004 02:02:22 GMT, (RGrew176) wrote:

From: DSK

Actually, most of what I have heard about Dean has been the right wing smear
campaign against him, parrotted here in this newsgroup.


Of course there has been no "left" wing smearing of President Bush in this
newsgroup. None, absolutely none, nada. Yeah right.


But when those on the left promote their agenda, it's "the truth".
When the right does it, it's "Mud slinging", "Hate radio", "Fascism",
etc.

If it weren't so pathetic, I'd find this blatant duplicity, somewhat
entertaining.

Dave

But when those on the left promote their agenda, it's "the truth".
When the right does it, it's "Mud slinging", "Hate radio", "Fascism",
etc.

The mud slinging and hate radio merely
contribute to the polarization that fosters fascism.

Truth is subjective and elusive. People on both sides of every war are
absolutely convinced their particular cause is just.
Few people would ever passionately defend a position they felt was "untrue."
History judges who was wrong, because "history is written by the victorious."

Hate radio is a tool of the right.
Blind obedience to the supreme leader and
exalting that person to god-like, infallible
status (even going so far as to claim people who question the supreme leader's
judment are "unpatriotic") is a fascist tendency more closely associated with
the right than with the left. Mud-slinging is universal.

Gould 0738 wrote:

Hate radio is a tool of the right.

Pure horse****. I've heard the left doing the same.

Try standing on both legs gould. It's easier to keep your balance.

-- Charlie


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Gould 0738 wrote:

Hate radio is a tool of the right.

Pure horse****. I've heard the left doing the same.

Really?

Do you have some call letters of a radio station that broadcasts the left wing
equivalent of Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage, and the rest? I'd like to know where
you hear the left "do the same" as the right.

Kudos, though: Like NOYB you are willing to admit that the right at least does
it "too"

On 08 Jan 2004 17:00:02 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

Gould 0738 wrote:

Hate radio is a tool of the right.

Pure horse****. I've heard the left doing the same.

Really?

Do you have some call letters of a radio station that broadcasts the left wing
equivalent of Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage, and the rest? I'd like to know where
you hear the left "do the same" as the right.


Try NPR...


Kudos, though: Like NOYB you are willing to admit that the right at least does
it "too"

I disagree with your characterization of conservative talk radio as
"Hate". Just because you can't counter the points made in a logical
fashion, and it bothers you, doesn't make the content "Hateful".

Dave

Do you have some call letters of a radio station that broadcasts the left wing
equivalent of Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage, and the rest? I'd like to know where
you hear the left "do the same" as the right.

Dave Hall wrote:
Try NPR...

That's great Dave.... remember, it's only "fair and balanced" if it promotes the
illogical bigotry & fascism that are nearest & dearest to your heart.



Kudos, though: Like NOYB you are willing to admit that the right at least does
it "too"

I disagree with your characterization of conservative talk radio as
"Hate".

Wait a minute, in your last post didn't you say "if it quacks like a duck, call it
a duck"?

I don't think Gould0738 was trying to characterize all conservative talk radio as
"hate radio" just the ones that are hate-filled. Like the ones that denounce
liberals as traitors (among other hateful accusations)....



Just because you can't counter the points made in a logical
fashion, and it bothers you, doesn't make the content "Hateful".

Actually, I and others have countered many (at least, all the ones I've cared to
read) of your points in sensible, factual, logical fashion... but you have refused
to learn anything at all in the years you've been ranting on this NG.

God bless you for never changing, Dave! You're like a rock!

DSK

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 12:58:52 -0500, DSK wrote:

Do you have some call letters of a radio station that broadcasts the left wing
equivalent of Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage, and the rest? I'd like to know where
you hear the left "do the same" as the right.

Dave Hall wrote:
Try NPR...

That's great Dave.... remember, it's only "fair and balanced" if it promotes the
illogical bigotry & fascism that are nearest & dearest to your heart.


As opposed to the illogical bigotry and fascism that are nearest and
dearest to yours?




Kudos, though: Like NOYB you are willing to admit that the right at least does
it "too"

I disagree with your characterization of conservative talk radio as
"Hate".

Wait a minute, in your last post didn't you say "if it quacks like a duck, call it
a duck"?

I don't think Gould0738 was trying to characterize all conservative talk radio as
"hate radio" just the ones that are hate-filled. Like the ones that denounce
liberals as traitors (among other hateful accusations)....

Proceeding to undermine the fight against terrorism, especially when
you have little to no credible information to base your opposition on,
is analogous to being a traitor. How can you be a good citizen if you
oppose the policies of your own country? It's like being a good
parent. If mom and dad disagree about a particular method of
punishment, they need to resolve it in private. Not air it out in
front of the kids, where the kids can then sense a chink in the
parental armor. That same is true with our foreign policy. Sure you
have a right and a responsibility to oppose that which you disagree
with. But you don't compare your leaders to Hitler, or pull a "Dixie
Chicks" in a public forum in a foreign country. Especially when your
whole reason for opposing is contained in sound byte propaganda.


Stating a negative opinion is also not automatically hateful. You
frequently disagree with me and have used ad-hominem names out of
sheer frustration. By your and Chuck's "logic", can I then assume that
you guys "hate" me? Should I be calling the DA's office?


Just because you can't counter the points made in a logical
fashion, and it bothers you, doesn't make the content "Hateful".

Actually, I and others have countered many (at least, all the ones I've cared to
read) of your points in sensible, factual, logical fashion... but you have refused
to learn anything at all in the years you've been ranting on this NG.

You arrogantly assume that your points made any sense to anyone
besides yourself. Just because someone provides you with "information"
does not mean that the information is either factual, or rational. I
have yet to hear a liberal point that makes any sense. It's just the
wrong ideology, and I can give many reasons why. It's no different
than our latest bunch of democratic presidential wannabees. None of
them have made any hint as to what they would do to fix things,other
than to counter what "the enemy" has done. Where is their vision for
success?


God bless you for never changing, Dave! You're like a rock!

It's called sticking to sound moral principles. A concept that those
on the left seem to have forgotten.

Dave

Try NPR...

I listen to NPR regularly.

Tell me, when do I tune in to hear the hosts denigrate all conservatives as
"traitors"? When should I listen to hear dozens of "Yep, me toos" from the
listening audience? Can't believe I'm missing all this hateful stuff boradcast
on NPR.

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Try NPR...

I listen to NPR regularly.

Tell me, when do I tune in to hear the hosts denigrate all conservatives
as
"traitors"? When should I listen to hear dozens of "Yep, me toos" from the
listening audience? Can't believe I'm missing all this hateful stuff
boradcast
on NPR.

NPR's left-wing bias is more analogous to governmental right-wing
propaganda. If you want an example of "hate talk" from the left, look at
people like Al Franken, Michael Moore, and James Carville.

On 08 Jan 2004 17:57:40 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

Try NPR...

I listen to NPR regularly.

Tell me, when do I tune in to hear the hosts denigrate all conservatives as
"traitors"? When should I listen to hear dozens of "Yep, me toos" from the
listening audience? Can't believe I'm missing all this hateful stuff boradcast
on NPR.

So it's your assertion then that people who agree with a certain
position, are somehow "hateful"?

Dave