Saltwater Boat Group (Boston Whaler, Sea Pro, Sea Boss, and Palmetto)
 

Brunswick announced today it has acquired Sea Pro Boats, Inc., and Sea Boss
Boats, LLC, of Newberry, S.C., the makers of the Sea Pro, Palmetto and Sea
Boss brands of sal****er fishing boats. The Sea Pro, Sea Boss and Palmetto
brands will join with Brunswick's Boston Whaler to form a new Sal****er Boat
Group.
Michael W. Myers, currently president of Boston Whaler, will head up the new
business unit, and will report directly to Dustan E. McCoy, president of the
Brunswick Boat Group. The Sal****er Boat Group, will be based in Edgewater,
Florida.

McCoy commented that Mike Myers was "a 17-year veteran of the boating
industry," and has done "an excellent job of solidifying the reputation and
raising the profile of Boston Whaler, one of the most prominent brands in
boating. With the combination of the well-known and respected Sea Pro, Sea
Boss and Palmetto brands, a stalwart management team and a dedicated
organization focusing on sal****er, the Brunswick Boat Group will now have a
more meaningful presence in offshore fishing, and a more complete and potent
line-up for our dealers."

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I don't know if this is good or bad. I don't like the fact that there are
now 3 more boat lines that will only be offered with Mercs.

On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 20:17:11 -0500, "NOYB" wrote:

Brunswick announced today it has acquired Sea Pro Boats, Inc., and Sea Boss
Boats, LLC, of Newberry, S.C., the makers of the Sea Pro, Palmetto and Sea
Boss brands of sal****er fishing boats. The Sea Pro, Sea Boss and Palmetto
brands will join with Brunswick's Boston Whaler to form a new Sal****er Boat
Group.
Michael W. Myers, currently president of Boston Whaler, will head up the new
business unit, and will report directly to Dustan E. McCoy, president of the
Brunswick Boat Group. The Sal****er Boat Group, will be based in Edgewater,
Florida.

McCoy commented that Mike Myers was "a 17-year veteran of the boating
industry," and has done "an excellent job of solidifying the reputation and
raising the profile of Boston Whaler, one of the most prominent brands in
boating. With the combination of the well-known and respected Sea Pro, Sea
Boss and Palmetto brands, a stalwart management team and a dedicated
organization focusing on sal****er, the Brunswick Boat Group will now have a
more meaningful presence in offshore fishing, and a more complete and potent
line-up for our dealers."

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I don't know if this is good or bad. I don't like the fact that there are
now 3 more boat lines that will only be offered with Mercs.

It's a sign of the times - how about all the boat manufacturers that
Yamaha has made deals with for exclusive installations. It's actually
getting to the point where an engine manufacturer has to have an
available boat line to market their engines.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
Brunswick announced today it has acquired Sea Pro Boats, Inc., and Sea
Boss Boats, LLC, of Newberry, S.C., the makers of the Sea Pro, Palmetto
and Sea Boss brands of sal****er fishing boats. The Sea Pro, Sea Boss and
Palmetto brands will join with Brunswick's Boston Whaler to form a new
Sal****er Boat Group.
Michael W. Myers, currently president of Boston Whaler, will head up the
new business unit, and will report directly to Dustan E. McCoy, president
of the Brunswick Boat Group. The Sal****er Boat Group, will be based in
Edgewater, Florida.

McCoy commented that Mike Myers was "a 17-year veteran of the boating
industry," and has done "an excellent job of solidifying the reputation
and raising the profile of Boston Whaler, one of the most prominent
brands in boating. With the combination of the well-known and respected
Sea Pro, Sea Boss and Palmetto brands, a stalwart management team and a
dedicated organization focusing on sal****er, the Brunswick Boat Group
will now have a more meaningful presence in offshore fishing, and a more
complete and potent line-up for our dealers."

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I don't know if this is good or bad. I don't like the fact that there
are now 3 more boat lines that will only be offered with Mercs.

SeaPro is a pretty decent line of low-to-mid priced salt water boat. The
company has modern factories and good QC. I agree, though, that buyers
should be able to purchase a boat with the engine of their choice. When I
bought our Parker, my choice with the model I wanted was Yamaha. I would
have preferred two 150 hp Merc FI's

There's nothing wrong with Mercs. However, after 110 trouble-free hours on
a Suzuki 250 Four-stroke, I'd opt for Suzuki motors if I were buying a new
boat. My brother has nearly 300 hours on a Suzuki 140 four-stroke without
any problems either.

First, Merc whines that they're losing money because of Japanese dumping.
Now, they pony up $51 million to buy three boat lines. It sure makes you
wonder if they were really losing money...or if they just wanted to raise
the price of outboards in order to raise more cash to buy more boat lines.

"Lamont Cranston" wrote in message
...
It's actually
getting to the point where an engine manufacturer has to have an
available boat line to market their engines.


It reached that point long ago when Yamaha acquired Century and Cobia just
so they'd have some boats to hang their newer motors on.

The boat business is getting like the car business. You can't buy a Ford
with a Chevy engine...and you can't buy a Brunswick boat with a
non-Brunswick engine.

"NOYB" wrote in message
...

You can't buy a Ford
with a Chevy engine...and you can't buy a Brunswick boat with a
non-Brunswick engine.


No, but you used to be able to buy a Buick or Caddy with a Chevy engine.

Eisboch

On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 03:24:19 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"NOYB" wrote in message
...

You can't buy a Ford
with a Chevy engine...and you can't buy a Brunswick boat with a
non-Brunswick engine.

No, but you used to be able to buy a Buick or Caddy with a Chevy engine.

You are as older than dirt aren't you?

Then again, so am I. :)

On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 21:27:46 -0500, "NOYB" wrote:


"Lamont Cranston" wrote in message
.. .
It's actually
getting to the point where an engine manufacturer has to have an
available boat line to market their engines.

It reached that point long ago when Yamaha acquired Century and Cobia just
so they'd have some boats to hang their newer motors on.

The boat business is getting like the car business. You can't buy a Ford
with a Chevy engine...and you can't buy a Brunswick boat with a
non-Brunswick engine.

Bombardier tried it with the Hydra Sports/Fish Hawk line, but it
failed miserably. I've heard rumors that they are going to try again
with a completely new design.

The one nice deal with my Contender was that it came sans engines - in
fact it was ordered that way and when the guy backed out of the deal,
the dealer had a blank boat. I was in the right place at the right
time.

"Eisboch" wrote in message
. ..

"NOYB" wrote in message
...

You can't buy a Ford
with a Chevy engine...and you can't buy a Brunswick boat with a
non-Brunswick engine.


No, but you used to be able to buy a Buick or Caddy with a Chevy engine.

You still do. Only now, it's called a GM engine.

On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 18:21:11 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
...

You can't buy a Ford
with a Chevy engine...and you can't buy a Brunswick boat with a
non-Brunswick engine.

No, but you used to be able to buy a Buick or Caddy with a Chevy engine.

You still do. Only now, it's called a GM engine.

Back in the day, my Father had a '57 Chevy with an Olds engine in it.
Can't remember what size it was, but I know it was an Olds.

My maternal Grandfather was the Shop Foreman for the Oldsmobile engine
plant where they used to pour and mill the blocks.

"Lamont Cranston" wrote in message
...

Back in the day, my Father had a '57 Chevy with an Olds engine in it.
Can't remember what size it was, but I know it was an Olds.

My maternal Grandfather was the Shop Foreman for the Oldsmobile engine
plant where they used to pour and mill the blocks.


In those days, and even later, each GM division had their own engine
designs. As we moved into the late 60's and 70's all the GM parts became
generic, including the basic car frames. Who can forget that lame excuse
for a Caddy that was basically a soft spring version of a Chevy Nova? A
shame, as it ended the Golden Era of US cars. Interestingly, there seems to
be a current swing back to being more independent and to differentiate
between the car lines. This is good!

Eisboch

On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 18:23:25 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Lamont Cranston" wrote in message
.. .

Back in the day, my Father had a '57 Chevy with an Olds engine in it.
Can't remember what size it was, but I know it was an Olds.

My maternal Grandfather was the Shop Foreman for the Oldsmobile engine
plant where they used to pour and mill the blocks.

In those days, and even later, each GM division had their own engine
designs. As we moved into the late 60's and 70's all the GM parts became
generic, including the basic car frames. Who can forget that lame excuse
for a Caddy that was basically a soft spring version of a Chevy Nova? A
shame, as it ended the Golden Era of US cars. Interestingly, there seems to
be a current swing back to being more independent and to differentiate
between the car lines. This is good!

When I returned from my second tour, I was really itching to get my
hands on the Road Runner I had ordered - special everything!!! I
ordered it 60 days before I left and wanted it delivered in San
Francisco because I was going to drive it home - cross country.

Well, that plan went totally fubar when I took a cab to the dealer and
it was the wrong color, wrong engine, wrong everything. I was totally
****ed as I paid cash for the car and it was supposed to be ready.

I called my Dad (who was Business Editor of the Boston Herald (or was
it Herald American at that time?) and a syndicated columnist, he got
in touch with the appropriate executive and I got a free 1st class
plane ride home and a promise that my Road Runner would be delivered
within a week at my home address.

Well, the week went by and the Road Runner was delivered to the local
dealer - wrong color, wrong engine, but it did have LSD and the Hurst
shifter.

HOWEVER...

Sitting in the showroom was a gorgeous black Plymouth GTX with the 440
hemi and two, count'em two, 750 Holleys, 3:92 LSD rear end, Hurst
shifter, bucket seats and, as god as my witness, a tre' kewl,
state-of-the-art cassette player - a true muscle car and a half.

Sold the car two years ago for a ridiculous sum to a collector - it
only had 11,000 original miles on it.

And I have no idea why I told that story.

Must be old age.

On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 18:23:25 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Lamont Cranston" wrote in message
.. .

Back in the day, my Father had a '57 Chevy with an Olds engine in it.
Can't remember what size it was, but I know it was an Olds.

My maternal Grandfather was the Shop Foreman for the Oldsmobile engine
plant where they used to pour and mill the blocks.


In those days, and even later, each GM division had their own engine
designs. As we moved into the late 60's and 70's all the GM parts became
generic, including the basic car frames. Who can forget that lame excuse
for a Caddy that was basically a soft spring version of a Chevy Nova? A
shame, as it ended the Golden Era of US cars. Interestingly, there seems to
be a current swing back to being more independent and to differentiate
between the car lines. This is good!

Eisboch

Ford differentiated so well with the new Mustang that the name of the
car is nowhere on the outside!

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 00:40:44 GMT, Lamont Cranston
wrote:

On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 18:23:25 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Lamont Cranston" wrote in message
. ..

Back in the day, my Father had a '57 Chevy with an Olds engine in it.
Can't remember what size it was, but I know it was an Olds.

My maternal Grandfather was the Shop Foreman for the Oldsmobile engine
plant where they used to pour and mill the blocks.

In those days, and even later, each GM division had their own engine
designs. As we moved into the late 60's and 70's all the GM parts became
generic, including the basic car frames. Who can forget that lame excuse
for a Caddy that was basically a soft spring version of a Chevy Nova? A
shame, as it ended the Golden Era of US cars. Interestingly, there seems to
be a current swing back to being more independent and to differentiate
between the car lines. This is good!

When I returned from my second tour, I was really itching to get my
hands on the Road Runner I had ordered - special everything!!! I
ordered it 60 days before I left and wanted it delivered in San
Francisco because I was going to drive it home - cross country.

Well, that plan went totally fubar when I took a cab to the dealer and
it was the wrong color, wrong engine, wrong everything. I was totally
****ed as I paid cash for the car and it was supposed to be ready.

I called my Dad (who was Business Editor of the Boston Herald (or was
it Herald American at that time?) and a syndicated columnist, he got
in touch with the appropriate executive and I got a free 1st class
plane ride home and a promise that my Road Runner would be delivered
within a week at my home address.

Well, the week went by and the Road Runner was delivered to the local
dealer - wrong color, wrong engine, but it did have LSD and the Hurst
shifter.

HOWEVER...

Sitting in the showroom was a gorgeous black Plymouth GTX with the 440
hemi and two, count'em two, 750 Holleys, 3:92 LSD rear end, Hurst
shifter, bucket seats and, as god as my witness, a tre' kewl,
state-of-the-art cassette player - a true muscle car and a half.

Sold the car two years ago for a ridiculous sum to a collector - it
only had 11,000 original miles on it.

And I have no idea why I told that story.

Must be old age.

Good story though. It's one of the reasons I paid a premium to get the
car I wanted now, as opposed to ordering, waiting 12 weeks, praying,
and then getting the wrong color or an automatic transmission.

Thanks for the story.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

"Lamont Cranston" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 18:23:25 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Lamont Cranston" wrote in message
.. .

Back in the day, my Father had a '57 Chevy with an Olds engine in it.
Can't remember what size it was, but I know it was an Olds.

My maternal Grandfather was the Shop Foreman for the Oldsmobile engine
plant where they used to pour and mill the blocks.

In those days, and even later, each GM division had their own engine
designs. As we moved into the late 60's and 70's all the GM parts became
generic, including the basic car frames. Who can forget that lame excuse
for a Caddy that was basically a soft spring version of a Chevy Nova? A
shame, as it ended the Golden Era of US cars. Interestingly, there seems
to
be a current swing back to being more independent and to differentiate
between the car lines. This is good!

When I returned from my second tour, I was really itching to get my
hands on the Road Runner I had ordered - special everything!!! I
ordered it 60 days before I left and wanted it delivered in San
Francisco because I was going to drive it home - cross country.

Well, that plan went totally fubar when I took a cab to the dealer and
it was the wrong color, wrong engine, wrong everything. I was totally
****ed as I paid cash for the car and it was supposed to be ready.

I called my Dad (who was Business Editor of the Boston Herald (or was
it Herald American at that time?) and a syndicated columnist, he got
in touch with the appropriate executive and I got a free 1st class
plane ride home and a promise that my Road Runner would be delivered
within a week at my home address.

Well, the week went by and the Road Runner was delivered to the local
dealer - wrong color, wrong engine, but it did have LSD and the Hurst
shifter.

HOWEVER...

Sitting in the showroom was a gorgeous black Plymouth GTX with the 440
hemi and two, count'em two, 750 Holleys, 3:92 LSD rear end, Hurst
shifter, bucket seats and, as god as my witness, a tre' kewl,
state-of-the-art cassette player - a true muscle car and a half.

Sold the car two years ago for a ridiculous sum to a collector - it
only had 11,000 original miles on it.

And I have no idea why I told that story.

Must be old age.


It is. There was no such thing as a 440 hemi, although the Chrysler 440
engine was nothing to sneeze at. The hemi was a 426.

Eisboch

"JohnH" wrote in message
...

Ford differentiated so well with the new Mustang that the name of the
car is nowhere on the outside!

John H


I'll tell ya ... I am kinda in the mood for a new toy and the new 2005, 300
hp Mustang is high on my list.

Eisboch

On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 21:17:51 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Lamont Cranston" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 18:23:25 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Lamont Cranston" wrote in message
.. .

Back in the day, my Father had a '57 Chevy with an Olds engine in it.
Can't remember what size it was, but I know it was an Olds.

My maternal Grandfather was the Shop Foreman for the Oldsmobile engine
plant where they used to pour and mill the blocks.

In those days, and even later, each GM division had their own engine
designs. As we moved into the late 60's and 70's all the GM parts became
generic, including the basic car frames. Who can forget that lame excuse
for a Caddy that was basically a soft spring version of a Chevy Nova? A
shame, as it ended the Golden Era of US cars. Interestingly, there seems
to
be a current swing back to being more independent and to differentiate
between the car lines. This is good!

When I returned from my second tour, I was really itching to get my
hands on the Road Runner I had ordered - special everything!!! I
ordered it 60 days before I left and wanted it delivered in San
Francisco because I was going to drive it home - cross country.

Well, that plan went totally fubar when I took a cab to the dealer and
it was the wrong color, wrong engine, wrong everything. I was totally
****ed as I paid cash for the car and it was supposed to be ready.

I called my Dad (who was Business Editor of the Boston Herald (or was
it Herald American at that time?) and a syndicated columnist, he got
in touch with the appropriate executive and I got a free 1st class
plane ride home and a promise that my Road Runner would be delivered
within a week at my home address.

Well, the week went by and the Road Runner was delivered to the local
dealer - wrong color, wrong engine, but it did have LSD and the Hurst
shifter.

HOWEVER...

Sitting in the showroom was a gorgeous black Plymouth GTX with the 440
hemi and two, count'em two, 750 Holleys, 3:92 LSD rear end, Hurst
shifter, bucket seats and, as god as my witness, a tre' kewl,
state-of-the-art cassette player - a true muscle car and a half.

Sold the car two years ago for a ridiculous sum to a collector - it
only had 11,000 original miles on it.

And I have no idea why I told that story.

Must be old age.

It is. There was no such thing as a 440 hemi, although the Chrysler 440
engine was nothing to sneeze at. The hemi was a 426.

Yeah - I know - I don't know why I do that.

You are right - it was the 426, although mine wasn't - it was the 440

Thing was a screamer though. And good looking. Once I get my web
site up and established, I'll post some pictures.

The only remnant of my muscle car days is the '70 Stingray which I
bought used in 1972 after I was discharged. 29,000 original miles.
All original.

On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 21:20:14 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .

Ford differentiated so well with the new Mustang that the name of the
car is nowhere on the outside!

I'll tell ya ... I am kinda in the mood for a new toy and the new 2005, 300
hp Mustang is high on my list.

I don't like them all that much. Way to retro for my taste. I prefer
'em in their original state. Cars should evolve, not devolve.

Which is why I liked the Prowler - very modern look while at the same
time being a little retro in concept.

Now if we could only get GM to crank up the Oldsmobile line and
reintroduce a new 442 design... :)

"Eisboch" wrote in message
.. .


I'll tell ya ... I am kinda in the mood for a new toy and the new 2005,
300
hp Mustang is high on my list.

Eisboch


Anybody excited about the Chinese cars Bricklin plans to import? I owned a
Russian 'Lada' in the early '80s & it was fun to drive (if you like the
retro thing).

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
.. .


I'll tell ya ... I am kinda in the mood for a new toy and the new 2005,
300
hp Mustang is high on my list.

Eisboch


Anybody excited about the Chinese cars Bricklin plans to import? I owned
a
Russian 'Lada' in the early '80s & it was fun to drive (if you like the
retro thing).



Even the Russian's and East German's hated that POS Lada!

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 03:57:25 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
. ..


I'll tell ya ... I am kinda in the mood for a new toy and the new 2005,
300
hp Mustang is high on my list.

Anybody excited about the Chinese cars Bricklin plans to import? I owned a
Russian 'Lada' in the early '80s & it was fun to drive (if you like the
retro thing).

My wife had a Yugo - that's about all I'll say about that.

It's interesting that the former Yugo factory now makes Century
tractors which is a great product.

As long as we are talking strange vehicles, there is a farmer here in
town who has a Beloruss tractor - one of the zillion four cylinder, 75
hp diesel tractors produced during the great era of single source
Communism in the former USSR. They were the great horse of
agricultural communism being, at once, the family go-to-town vehicle,
the plow horse, the hay horse, the manure spreader - everything that a
farm vehicle does, it did.

It was his everyday tractor for a long time, but recently the beast
has developed parts disease - they are getting harder and harder to
find. Eventually he will run out of his own set of spares and it will
go to tractor heaven, but it won't die because it was built shoddily.

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 06:35:20 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
.. .


I'll tell ya ... I am kinda in the mood for a new toy and the new 2005,
300
hp Mustang is high on my list.

Eisboch


Anybody excited about the Chinese cars Bricklin plans to import? I owned
a
Russian 'Lada' in the early '80s & it was fun to drive (if you like the
retro thing).

Even the Russian's and East German's hated that POS Lada!

A local collector has a '84 Chaika GAZ limosine - it's very impressive
in it's quality. One interesting fact that I didn't know is that the
metal is dyed black - I think around 20 coats, hand rubbed inbetween.

Interesting vehicle.

On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 21:20:14 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .

Ford differentiated so well with the new Mustang that the name of the
car is nowhere on the outside!

John H


I'll tell ya ... I am kinda in the mood for a new toy and the new 2005, 300
hp Mustang is high on my list.

Eisboch

They are nice!

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 03:13:51 GMT, Lamont Cranston
wrote:

On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 21:20:14 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
. ..

Ford differentiated so well with the new Mustang that the name of the
car is nowhere on the outside!

I'll tell ya ... I am kinda in the mood for a new toy and the new 2005, 300
hp Mustang is high on my list.

I don't like them all that much. Way to retro for my taste. I prefer
'em in their original state. Cars should evolve, not devolve.

Which is why I liked the Prowler - very modern look while at the same
time being a little retro in concept.

Now if we could only get GM to crank up the Oldsmobile line and
reintroduce a new 442 design... :)

I had a '68 and now have an '05. Other than the color and the grill
style, they are totally different cars. Drive one, you'll see.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes