On 07 Jan 2004 08:04:48 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

Fascinating. What does the depth indicator say when the sub is surfaced?
Obviously it would not be zero.

That would depend on how far it surfaced. Did it blow all ballast or is
it just barely surfaced?

Steve

If you do an emergency blow from test depth, the forward third of the boat will
come completely out of the water when the boat reaches the surface. For those
few seconds I think that would be a 'zero' reading.

JJ


It can't blow enough ballast to put the keel on the surface. My point is merely
that if the depth is measured between the surface and the keel, (and I have no
reason to doubt that it is) there could never be a "zero" reading.

James Johnson
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On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 01:44:51 +0000, James Johnson wrote:


If you do an emergency blow from test depth, the forward third of the boat
will come completely out of the water when the boat reaches the surface.
For those few seconds I think that would be a 'zero' reading.

I think we have all seen pictures of that, quite impressive. I've always
wondered what it would be like inside at the time. It must be a rather
rough ride?

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 23:01:53 -0500, thunder wrote:

On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 01:44:51 +0000, James Johnson wrote:


If you do an emergency blow from test depth, the forward third of the boat
will come completely out of the water when the boat reaches the surface.
For those few seconds I think that would be a 'zero' reading.

I think we have all seen pictures of that, quite impressive. I've always
wondered what it would be like inside at the time. It must be a rather

Everything is rattling, shaking and vibrating on the way up. When you break the
surface it suddenly gets a lot quieter, and the fall back down is surprisingly
gentle compared to the ride up.

JJ

rough ride?

James Johnson
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yes, a sub can read zero ! talking to my dad who worked on subs, actually
the gauge can be re-calibrated thus zero can be read. at any point they
wish, when the bottom of the hull is still 20feet below the surface.
Most of you, do not even know, nuclear bombs are also placed in special
torpedoes, of which it would not take more than two to take out Cuba !!!

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On 07 Jan 2004 08:04:48 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

Fascinating. What does the depth indicator say when the sub is
surfaced?
Obviously it would not be zero.

That would depend on how far it surfaced. Did it blow all ballast or is
it just barely surfaced?

Steve

If you do an emergency blow from test depth, the forward third of the boat
will
come completely out of the water when the boat reaches the surface. For
those
few seconds I think that would be a 'zero' reading.

JJ


It can't blow enough ballast to put the keel on the surface. My point is
merely
that if the depth is measured between the surface and the keel, (and I
have no
reason to doubt that it is) there could never be a "zero" reading.

James Johnson
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"Joseph Stachyra" wrote
(snip )
Most of you, do not even know, nuclear bombs are also placed in special
torpedoes, of which it would not take more than two to take out Cuba !!!

Please, don't even think that about Cuba. It is a beautiful country and I
am going boating there, in February, for my annual winter vaction!!!!

Jim Carter
"The Boat"
Bayfield

Jim Carter wrote:

"Joseph Stachyra" wrote
(snip )
Most of you, do not even know, nuclear bombs are also placed in special
torpedoes, of which it would not take more than two to take out Cuba !!!

Please, don't even think that about Cuba. It is a beautiful country and I
am going boating there, in February, for my annual winter vaction!!!!

Jim Carter
"The Boat"
Bayfield


Good grief. Cuba. Why are we still at war with Cuba? If there is a
dumber American foreign policy than what we've done with Cuba for the
last half-century, I'm unaware of it.

Even today, Bush is kissing the ass of the PRC and horrific
dictatorships all over the world, but is kicking Cuba in the ass.

Ker-ripes.







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On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 11:26:24 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Jim Carter wrote:

"Joseph Stachyra" wrote
(snip )
Most of you, do not even know, nuclear bombs are also placed in special
torpedoes, of which it would not take more than two to take out Cuba !!!

Please, don't even think that about Cuba. It is a beautiful country and I
am going boating there, in February, for my annual winter vaction!!!!

Jim Carter
"The Boat"
Bayfield


Good grief. Cuba. Why are we still at war with Cuba? If there is a
dumber American foreign policy than what we've done with Cuba for the
last half-century, I'm unaware of it.

We're at war with Cuba? That I was unaware of.

Even today, Bush is kissing the ass of the PRC and horrific
dictatorships all over the world, but is kicking Cuba in the ass.

We just need to strip the Cuban exiles in this country of their right to
vote and then we can all visit Cuba and spend our money there legally.

Steve

Steven Shelikoff wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 11:26:24 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Jim Carter wrote:

"Joseph Stachyra" wrote
(snip )
Most of you, do not even know, nuclear bombs are also placed in special
torpedoes, of which it would not take more than two to take out Cuba !!!

Please, don't even think that about Cuba. It is a beautiful country and I
am going boating there, in February, for my annual winter vaction!!!!

Jim Carter
"The Boat"
Bayfield


Good grief. Cuba. Why are we still at war with Cuba? If there is a
dumber American foreign policy than what we've done with Cuba for the
last half-century, I'm unaware of it.

We're at war with Cuba? That I was unaware of.

Don't be so literal, Steve. It doesn't become you.


Even today, Bush is kissing the ass of the PRC and horrific
dictatorships all over the world, but is kicking Cuba in the ass.

We just need to strip the Cuban exiles in this country of their right to
vote and then we can all visit Cuba and spend our money there legally.

Steve

Well, we do need to ensure that after Castro, the exiles don't go back
and try to assert some "rights" they think they have.

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snip

Well, we do need to ensure that after Castro, the exiles don't go back
and try to assert some "rights" they think they have.

I heard from someone who had been to Cuba often that the Cubans aren't
going to have somebody in power who fled to the US and missed the
"Hard Times" under Castro. Maybe it was on one of the boat groups,
now that I think about it.
Mark E. Williams

On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 20:07:38 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Steven Shelikoff wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 11:26:24 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Jim Carter wrote:

"Joseph Stachyra" wrote
(snip )
Most of you, do not even know, nuclear bombs are also placed in special
torpedoes, of which it would not take more than two to take out Cuba !!!

Please, don't even think that about Cuba. It is a beautiful country and I
am going boating there, in February, for my annual winter vaction!!!!

Jim Carter
"The Boat"
Bayfield


Good grief. Cuba. Why are we still at war with Cuba? If there is a
dumber American foreign policy than what we've done with Cuba for the
last half-century, I'm unaware of it.

We're at war with Cuba? That I was unaware of.

Don't be so literal, Steve. It doesn't become you.

It was more sarcastic than literal.

Even today, Bush is kissing the ass of the PRC and horrific
dictatorships all over the world, but is kicking Cuba in the ass.

We just need to strip the Cuban exiles in this country of their right to
vote and then we can all visit Cuba and spend our money there legally.

Well, we do need to ensure that after Castro, the exiles don't go back
and try to assert some "rights" they think they have.

Why do "we" need to ensure that? The Cubans can handle that for
themselves.

Steve