"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Tuuk wrote:


Correct me if I am wrong please,,,

There isn't enough available bandwidth...

In Hanoi Harry's head to even begin to comprehend what was said.

Were there also many districts with a decent turnout, Chuck?

Not really.

You're dealing with a society that was secular under Hussein, but given its
druthers would rather be a Muslim theocracy than almost anything else. Many of
these people feel that measuring the popular sentiment or will with a vote is a
meaningless exercise, as all of society should be organized according to the
will of God as interpreted by the Koran and the local holymen.

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There's a huge difference between the Christian right and the right Christians
http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/content/ne...41012bsh.shtml

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
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That's nonsense Chuck. Democracy doesn't have to be tied to ANY
particular religion. Democracy is government by the people. Perhaps
the fact that this ideal is in direct contrast to some of the
"guiding" principles of Islam, is where the friction comes from.

Clue alert - Clue alert - Clue alert.

You have provided yourself with a clue. Press "Esc" to stop seeing the clue.

So just who is it continuously insisting that all Christians are good
and
all of Islam are bad and evil? Can you provide a cite please or is this

just your opinion in an attempt to make your point?

******
Thousands of American groups, with millions of members. Just today I
came across such an organization, www.jihadwatch.org

Ever hear the term "Islamofascist" used on right wing talk radio? If
not, you haven't been listening.

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wrote in message
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So just who is it continuously insisting that all Christians are good
and
all of Islam are bad and evil? Can you provide a cite please or is this

just your opinion in an attempt to make your point?

******
Thousands of American groups, with millions of members. Just today I
came across such an organization, www.jihadwatch.org

Ever hear the term "Islamofascist" used on right wing talk radio? If
not, you haven't been listening.

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One small extreme group that talks about *radical* Muslims and an obscure
talk radio show? Come on Chuck, you can do better.

Still waiting for proof of your other claim that 99% of Islam is harmless to
America.
I see you conveniently left that out of your reply.

On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 07:35:25 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


wrote in message
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So just who is it continuously insisting that all Christians are good
and
all of Islam are bad and evil? Can you provide a cite please or is this

just your opinion in an attempt to make your point?

******
Thousands of American groups, with millions of members. Just today I
came across such an organization, www.jihadwatch.org

Ever hear the term "Islamofascist" used on right wing talk radio? If
not, you haven't been listening.

One small extreme group that talks about *radical* Muslims and an obscure
talk radio show? Come on Chuck, you can do better.

Still waiting for proof of your other claim that 99% of Islam is harmless to
America.
I see you conveniently left that out of your reply.

I wouldn't say 99% - maybe 60% at the outside.

However, it is a political/theological religion and not in the least
bit secular in either concept - the two concepts are intertwined. The
fundamentalist Imans hold sway over a large portion of their folk and
that is where the danger lies.

Face it - most of Islam is living in the 6th Century in terms of
political and religious concepts.

It's hard to deal with that.

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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I wouldn't say 99% - maybe 60% at the outside.

However, it is a political/theological religion and not in the least
bit secular in either concept - the two concepts are intertwined. The
fundamentalist Imans hold sway over a large portion of their folk and
that is where the danger lies.

Tom, in places like Central America, Catholic priests have long been
involved in politics, sometimes for better, sometimes not. And, I don't mean
they were just having lunch with the dictator du jour. And, they practically
ran the Phillippines before we arrived to do whatever the hell we thought we
were doing there.

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 13:35:31 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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I wouldn't say 99% - maybe 60% at the outside.

However, it is a political/theological religion and not in the least
bit secular in either concept - the two concepts are intertwined. The
fundamentalist Imans hold sway over a large portion of their folk and
that is where the danger lies.

Tom, in places like Central America, Catholic priests have long been
involved in politics, sometimes for better, sometimes not. And, I don't mean
they were just having lunch with the dictator du jour. And, they practically
ran the Phillippines before we arrived to do whatever the hell we thought we
were doing there.

I don't deny that. Catholics were both oppressors and liberators.

However, we're not discussing US if you will. We are discussing THEM.
I am fully aware of the atrocities generated in the name of Christian
beliefs, but Christians have moved beyond that where the
fundamentalist Islamic states have not.

Just because christians in the past were responsible does not make the
atrocities of Islam now somehow correct.

Still waiting for proof of your other claim that 99% of Islam is harmless to
America.


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
I wouldn't say 99% - maybe 60% at the outside.

And you based this figure on what, exactly?


However, it is a political/theological religion and not in the least
bit secular in either concept - the two concepts are intertwined.

You should read a bit more, really.

*ALL* religion is heavily intertwined with politics. The *only* reason
that Christian sects are not theocratic dictatorships is that that wagon
has already rolled down the hill.

Churches have *never* once in all recorded history given up political
control of an area or a populace, nor has a religious gov't ever
accorded civil liberties to it's subjects. That is a developement of
secular thought, of whatever science exists in social & economic studies.


Face it - most of Islam is living in the 6th Century in terms of
political and religious concepts.

And the U.S. is backing up in that direction.


It's hard to deal with that.

Yep.

Intolerant, violent, religious whackos... of any faith... make bad
neighbors.

DSK

wrote in message
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So just who is it continuously insisting that all Christians are good
and
all of Islam are bad and evil? Can you provide a cite please or is this

just your opinion in an attempt to make your point?

******
Thousands of American groups, with millions of members. Just today I
came across such an organization, www.jihadwatch.org

Ever hear the term "Islamofascist" used on right wing talk radio? If
not, you haven't been listening.

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Nope, but I guess you have and I won't doubt you. Who are the *right wing*
talk show hosts using the term?