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Mosul Attack Work of Suicide Bomber...
the wtc attacks were planned while clinton was worried about
getting his dick sucked by his employees.....maybe he should have been better at "staying on task".... |
"Gould 0738" wrote in message ... the wtc attacks were planned while clinton was worried about getting his dick sucked by his employees.....maybe he should have been better at "staying on task".... ???? So, if Clinton hadn't been blown in the Oval Office, Al Qaida would never have planned to attack the US?? Possibly. Can you prove otherwise? |
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the wtc attacks were planned while clinton was worried about getting his dick sucked by his employees.....maybe he should have been better at "staying on task".... Hmmmm. I thought Clinton did this in the White House. Are you implying it was done on a boat? I mean, why else would you post this in a boating forum? Maybe you should be better at "staying on topic". It's simple:boating. I know; don't feed the trolls. Sorry. |
So, if Clinton hadn't been blown in the Oval Office, Al Qaida would never
have planned to attack the US?? Possibly. Can you prove otherwise? Unbelievable. |
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"Gould 0738" wrote in message ... I wouldn't characterize the party as a mindless idiot, but I'm flabbergasted that anybody seriously believes Clinton's sex life was a factor in whether Al Qaida attacked us on 9-11. But Harry is blaming Bush for the 9/11 attacks. I'm flabbergasted that you would believe that. Bush had nothing to do with it, but I don't see your indignation over Harry's remarks. Typical two-faced liberal you are, Chuck. Jack |
clinton's mind was on his dick, not running the country...as he
was hired to do......what other president discusses troop movements w/his military seniors while getting blow jobs?...and gets caught lying about it?...sheeze.....true trailer trash...... |
"Gould 0738" wrote in message ... So, if Clinton hadn't been blown in the Oval Office, Al Qaida would never have planned to attack the US?? Possibly. Can you prove otherwise? Unbelievable. They were upset about American sexual habits. Maybe the blow job pushed OBL over the edge. |
"Gould 0738" wrote in message ... Let me guess, Chuck...you're picking up a quote from one of the mindless rightwing idiots I filter...Fritz? Hertvik? I wouldn't characterize the party as a mindless idiot, but I'm flabbergasted that anybody seriously believes Clinton's sex life was a factor in whether Al Qaida attacked us on 9-11. Even if they were attacking us based on moral outrage over the whole Lewinski affair, they should have called it off in 2001 when Bush took office. It's a well accepted fact that Republicans never have sex outside of marriage, and even intramarital sex is for purposes of procreation only. :-) You asked: "So, if Clinton hadn't been blown in the Oval Office, Al Qaida would never have planned to attack the US??" I said: "Possibly. Can you prove otherwise? " So how does that now translate into "seriously believes Clinton's sex life was a factor in whether Al Qaida attacked us on 9-11"? Quite a leap you made there Chuck. |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message news:1103770958.4f42aaf2bb531d7c58c7431201b27f94@t eranews... Jack Goff wrote: "Gould 0738" wrote in message ... I wouldn't characterize the party as a mindless idiot, but I'm flabbergasted that anybody seriously believes Clinton's sex life was a factor in whether Al Qaida attacked us on 9-11. But Harry is blaming Bush for the 9/11 attacks. I'm flabbergasted that you would believe that. Bush had nothing to do with it, but I don't see your indignation over Harry's remarks. Typical two-faced liberal you are, Chuck. Jack I know you righties want to give your boy Dubya a pass, but the fact remains that Bush was captain of the ship on 9-11, and therefore 9-11 happened on his watch and was his responsibility. Perhaps if he had taken a shorter vacation that summer or had the IQ to pay more attention to the warnings, he might have done something -anything- to mitigate what happened in 9-11. OK, let's run with that. It is a fact that those two planes were flown into the twin towers while Bush was in office. By the same logic, the downturn in the economy happened on Clinton's watch. He was asleep at the wheel, and allowed the stock market to get wildly overvalued. The crash was inevitable and happened on his watch, but Clinton did nothing. Bitter pill to swallow, eh? Bush was asleep at the wheel before, on, and after 9-11. He still is clueless about fighting terrorism. He thinks the military is the answer. It is part of the answer. No more attacks here in the US in over three years is a pretty good record. I suppose we could have pacified them with free ketchup... Right, Hanoi Harry? Jack |
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"Calif Bill" wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote: Who was POTUS when the WTC was destroyed, Bungling Bill? Who? Your favorite POTUS, Dumbfoch Dubya, friend of Nuclear Zell. Who was in charge when all the planning was done? Who was in charge when the first WTC attack happened? Who was in charge when we had a couple of embassy attacked? When the USS Cole was attacked? What is your cure for terrorism? They seem to understand extreme violence. Maybe we ought to be more extreme. If the rebels take over a town, inform the town to turn over the bad guys or we level the town. They goodguys can leave, but the town still gets leveled. According to you we make more enemies. But according to you they all hate us now. So what is to lose? Don't ask such difficult questions. Hanoi Harry can only spout the party line. Jack |
They were upset about American sexual habits. Maybe the blow job pushed OBL
over the edge. I'm sure he would have felt like morality was restored when GWB was elected. |
"So, if Clinton hadn't been blown in the Oval Office, Al Qaida would never
have planned to attack the US??" I said: "Possibly. Can you prove otherwise? " So how does that now translate into "seriously believes Clinton's sex life was a factor in whether Al Qaida attacked us on 9-11"? Quite a leap you made there Chuck. You seriously believe that it is a possibility, and challenge others to provide proof that bin Ladin would never have attacked the US if Clinton wasn't fiddling around with Monica. That's not a leap, it's a short step. |
If Clinton's mind had not been focused on his sex life, and the
repercussions therefrom, do you suppose he may have done more to bring Bin Laden down while he had the chance(s)? Close, butt no cigar....(Clinton joke) Clinton attacked bin Ladin a few times during his term, launching cruise missles into his training camps, etc. However, since the Republican witch hunters in congress had *their* minds on using Clinton's sex life to try to hound him from office, he met with resistance every step of the way. He was accused of "wagging the dog" when he launched missles against Al Qaida, - trying to divert the nation's attention from more important matters like lying under oath about an extra marital sexcapede. When he listened to faulty intelligence and clobbered an aspirin factory in the Sudan, he was reviled as the dumbest piece of crap ever to set foot in the oval office. (A rather different response than when a Republican got us into the current mess.....supposedly as the result of faulty intelligence). One could counter with the observation that if your witch hunters had let the man alone to do his job, he might have been more effective at it. |
"Gould 0738" wrote in message ... "So, if Clinton hadn't been blown in the Oval Office, Al Qaida would never have planned to attack the US??" I said: "Possibly. Can you prove otherwise? " So how does that now translate into "seriously believes Clinton's sex life was a factor in whether Al Qaida attacked us on 9-11"? Quite a leap you made there Chuck. You seriously believe that it is a possibility, and challenge others to provide proof that bin Ladin would never have attacked the US if Clinton wasn't fiddling around with Monica. That's not a leap, it's a short step. I never said I believe it. I said it was possible. |
"Jack Goff" wrote in message m... "Harry Krause" wrote in message news:1103770958.4f42aaf2bb531d7c58c7431201b27f94@t eranews... Jack Goff wrote: "Gould 0738" wrote in message ... I wouldn't characterize the party as a mindless idiot, but I'm flabbergasted that anybody seriously believes Clinton's sex life was a factor in whether Al Qaida attacked us on 9-11. But Harry is blaming Bush for the 9/11 attacks. I'm flabbergasted that you would believe that. Bush had nothing to do with it, but I don't see your indignation over Harry's remarks. Typical two-faced liberal you are, Chuck. Jack I know you righties want to give your boy Dubya a pass, but the fact remains that Bush was captain of the ship on 9-11, and therefore 9-11 happened on his watch and was his responsibility. Perhaps if he had taken a shorter vacation that summer or had the IQ to pay more attention to the warnings, he might have done something -anything- to mitigate what happened in 9-11. OK, let's run with that. It is a fact that those two planes were flown into the twin towers while Bush was in office. By the same logic, the downturn in the economy happened on Clinton's watch. He was asleep at the wheel, and allowed the stock market to get wildly overvalued. The crash was inevitable and happened on his watch, but Clinton did nothing. Bitter pill to swallow, eh? Actually, Clinton directly caused it..........by limiting CEO salary deductibility http://www.chilit.org/Barnh6.htm A poriton of the article " Fortune magazine, in its survey of 1992 executive pay reported, "The explosion of stock option grants - the main CEO pay trend of the 1980s - may finally be slowing. Salary and bonuses grew faster than stock awards" in 1992. Your chart indicates the decline of stock option awards continued for another year. Options declined absolutely and as a percentage of total CEO compensation from 1992 to 1993. That was when the Clinton CEO pay cap was enacted. Let me pause for some definitions. Employee stock options grant to the holder of the option the right to buy shares of the company at a specified price during a specified period. If you hold an option to buy shares at $10 and the stock doubles to $20, you can exercise your option by paying the company $10 and then claim a 100 percent profit, not counting taxes and transaction costs. You never have to own the stock for more than a moment. But President Clinton's reform of CEO pay specifically excluded stock option awards. Options were billed as a way to align the interests of executives with the interests of ordinary stockholders. As Roger Lowenstein points out in his new book, Origins of the Crash, options fail as an incentive for corporate performance because they carry no risk. If a company's operations decline and its stock price drops, or if the stock price falls for any reason, the options expire worthless and the CEO simply collects a fresh batch of options at the reduced price. As we learned in the 1990s, short-term stock price movements frequently bear no relation to the intrinsic value of a company or its operating performance. Rolling over a series of option grants, which are free to the executive, virtually guaranteed millions of dollars with no effort at all, especially in a bull market. It was much simpler to appear on CNBC and tout your stock than actually manage the company efficiently to generate legitimate profits. Indeed, generating profits was a waste of time. Companies with strong balance sheets and steady profits lagged the market in the late 1990s, a condition that persists today." Nonetheless, the House Ways and Means Committee said in 1993, "Stock options.generally are to be treated as meeting the exception for performance-based compensation.because the amount of the compensation paid to the executive is based on an increase in the corporation's stock price." More than one hundred years ago, the acerbic newspaper columnist Ambrose Bierce, a veteran of the Civil War, began publishing cryptic definitions of words. These were later compiled into a book, The Devil's Dictionary. Bierce defined a corporation as "an ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility." I suspect Bierce had never heard of stock options. But when President Clinton's compensation deduction cap took effect 10 years ago, individual CEOs and their consultants quickly recognized the windfall that had befallen them. Obviously, it would be poor business practice to collect more than $1 million in cash salary and bonus, thereby losing the tax deduction on the excess business expense. Stock options, on the other hand, were not only excluded from the new law. They were not even counted as a business expense, no matter what amount was awarded. They were a "device for obtaining individual profit," as Bierce put it, that was free of responsibility and financially free to the corporation, even though employee options dilute the ownership stake of other shareholders. Stock options as the solution to outrageous executive pay had been validated in 1990 by professors Michael Jensen of Harvard University and Kevin Murphy of the University of Rochester. Their article in the Harvard Business Review was titled "CEO Incentives - It's Not How Much You Pay, But How." They advocated greater stock ownership by CEOs. But the professors made a fatal error by failing to distinguish fully between stock options and the outright stock ownership, in which stockholders face the risk of loss. They also equated company performance with the market value of its shares, a remarkably naïve assumption in the short-term world of option grants. Jensen has acknowledged his mistake. In 2001, he published an article titled "How Stock Options Reward Managers for Destroying Value." Today, he says options are like heroin in the executive suite. They induce CEOs to lie, cheat and steal to keep inflating their share prices. Kenneth Lay, the former chairman of Enron Corp., cashed in $145 million on stock options from 2000 to 2001, just before the company collapsed. Recently Jensen told a Chicago audience that the best solution to corporate governance scandals was lower stock prices. Academics and others are now calling for the repeal of the cap on executive compensation as an urgently needed reform." Bush was asleep at the wheel before, on, and after 9-11. He still is clueless about fighting terrorism. He thinks the military is the answer. It is part of the answer. No more attacks here in the US in over three years is a pretty good record. I suppose we could have pacified them with free ketchup... Right, Hanoi Harry? Jack |
Harry
If you hate your country so much,, why did you work in it your entire career? I mean obviously someone as smart as yourself (kidding now) could have had any job globally and didn't need a union to protect their job,, lol,, Nope,, you stuck around in America and simply criticized its management,, lol,,, Funny think about union brothers,,, always against management,, even when they do not understand a thing about it,,, lol,,, Come on there Harry,,, will you **** off already,, your one ignorant pain in the ass,, "Harry Krause" wrote in message news:1103771009.dee6283948de4a41aeabb06b7872195b@t eranews... ~^ beancounter ~^ wrote: clinton's mind was on his dick, not running the country...as he was hired to do......what other president discusses troop movements w/his military seniors while getting blow jobs?...and gets caught lying about it?...sheeze.....true trailer trash...... There was more going on in Clinton's brain while he was out during his heart surgery than has ever gone on in Bush's brain. |
Tuuk,,,,
Do they use multiple commas in Bangkok? Or is it your personal preference for flaming and wasting people's time?????????????????????????????????? Just wondering,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Dan Tuuk wrote: Harry If you hate your country so much,, why did you work in it your entire career? I mean obviously someone as smart as yourself (kidding now) could have had any job globally and didn't need a union to protect their job,, lol,, Nope,, you stuck around in America and simply criticized its management,, lol,,, Funny think about union brothers,,, always against management,, even when they do not understand a thing about it,,, lol,,, Come on there Harry,,, will you **** off already,, your one ignorant pain in the ass,, "Harry Krause" wrote in message news:1103771009.dee6283948de4a41aeabb06b7872195b@t eranews... ~^ beancounter ~^ wrote: clinton's mind was on his dick, not running the country...as he was hired to do......what other president discusses troop movements w/his military seniors while getting blow jobs?...and gets caught lying about it?...sheeze.....true trailer trash...... There was more going on in Clinton's brain while he was out during his heart surgery than has ever gone on in Bush's brain. |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message Tuuk is some piece of work...he raves about the Pacific Rim, but can't get a job there, so he wetbacked his way into Canada, and his parents are impoverished there, so he sends money home. All the while insulting North American culture and workers. |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message news:1103916626.b1d6094878383234c199b5e48bb1b31b@t eranews... JohnH wrote: One could counter your argument with the observation that if Clinton had kept his pants zipped, the witch hunting wouldn't have started. The GOP witch hunting started long before Clinton's fooling around was discovered. Clinton couldn't keep his pants zipped in the '70's. Are you saying that the GOP was after Clinton in the '70's? |
One could counter your argument with the observation that if Clinton
had kept his pants zipped, the witch hunting wouldn't have started. Ken Starr had spent $80 million of taxpayer's money *before* Monica ever met Bill. |
"Gould 0738" wrote in message ... One could counter your argument with the observation that if Clinton had kept his pants zipped, the witch hunting wouldn't have started. Ken Starr had spent $80 million of taxpayer's money *before* Monica ever met Bill. Bill Clinton was forcing, a generous term, himself on women before he started his first campagin for the US presidency. Bill Clinton is a sexual predator. |
Harry
One was proven in court, by the people for the people,, undisputed and then admitted most dishonorably,,, The other is your opinion,, and coming from you harry,, really doesn't hold much water lately,, "Harry Krause" wrote in message news:1104004498.8154df69d675fc4caa4c40dc07b20329@t eranews... Bert Robbins wrote: "Gould 0738" wrote in message ... One could counter your argument with the observation that if Clinton had kept his pants zipped, the witch hunting wouldn't have started. Ken Starr had spent $80 million of taxpayer's money *before* Monica ever met Bill. Bill Clinton was forcing, a generous term, himself on women before he started his first campagin for the US presidency. Bill Clinton is a sexual predator. Yeah, well, the current POTUS is a murderous liar. |
"Tuuk" wrote in message
... Harry One was proven in court, by the people for the people,, undisputed and then admitted most dishonorably,,, The other is your opinion,, and coming from you harry,, really doesn't hold much water lately,, Lately? Are you saying that before "lately", the comment was valid? I'm not sure where you're from, but I suspect you've seen this kind of murderous behavior before, and are in denial. |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message news:1103770958.4f42aaf2bb531d7c58c7431201b27f94@t eranews... I know you righties want to give your boy Dubya a pass, but the fact remains that Bush was captain of the ship on 9-11, and therefore 9-11 happened on his watch and was his responsibility. Perhaps if he had taken a shorter vacation that summer or had the IQ to pay more attention to the warnings, he might have done something -anything- to mitigate what happened in 9-11. Bush was asleep at the wheel before, on, and after 9-11. He still is clueless about fighting terrorism. He thinks the military is the answer. ok Harry, and while I am not looking to pick sides, what could President Bush realistically have done to mitigate what happened? And to consider the other side, what could 'any' president have done in advance of the attacks? |
hardly makes him a great leader...one has to question the judgement
of anyone that would follow a person like that...reminds me of some recent religious "leaders" that can't seem to keep their "baloney" holstered... pretty funny...imho...... Bill Clinton was forcing, a generous term, himself on women before he started his first campagin for the US presidency. Bill Clinton is a sexual predator. |
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