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Calif Bill January 4th 05 09:09 PM


"basskisser" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:


Go to Pillar Point Harbor. They have a large sandy beach inside

the
breakwater where they do not dredge. The boat does not get into

the
water
system as little parts. And the $100 would be eaten up in paper

work
a
couple of times over.

Perhaps you should take a look at the laws of your own state

regarding
such issues. Start with AB 1014

Task Force- Prevention of Abandoned Boats - RBOC is following-up on

the
provisions of AB 1014 [Canciamilla, Chapter 357, Statutes of 2003],
legislation the organization sponsored in an effort to develop
strategies to prevent recreational vessels from being abandoned and

to
facilitate the ability of owners to turn in their recreational

vessels
to public agencies for disposal in lieu of abandonment.



Under AB 1014, the Department of Boating and Waterways is

convening,
an "abandoned vessel advisory committee" to assist in this effort.
RBOC is participating on the committee.


What about this Assembly Bill contravenes The getting rid of an

abandoned
boat by the harbor? They drag it up on the beach, the salvagers

strip it,
the remains, greatly diminished in bulk are put in the land fill.


IT'S ****ING ILLEGAL TO DISPOSE OF BOATS IN THIS MANNER.......
Read you own damned state laws, for God's sake. IF you were to take a
look, you'd find, by doing a simple search like I did, no less than 100
laws pertaining DIRECTLY to the abandonment of recreational vessels.


Where is the boat abandoned by the harbor district? Better get hold of
yourself, you may explode.



basskisser January 4th 05 09:17 PM


Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:


Go to Pillar Point Harbor. They have a large sandy beach

inside
the
breakwater where they do not dredge. The boat does not get

into
the
water
system as little parts. And the $100 would be eaten up in

paper
work
a
couple of times over.

Perhaps you should take a look at the laws of your own state

regarding
such issues. Start with AB 1014

Task Force- Prevention of Abandoned Boats - RBOC is

following-up on
the
provisions of AB 1014 [Canciamilla, Chapter 357, Statutes of

2003],
legislation the organization sponsored in an effort to develop
strategies to prevent recreational vessels from being abandoned

and
to
facilitate the ability of owners to turn in their recreational

vessels
to public agencies for disposal in lieu of abandonment.



Under AB 1014, the Department of Boating and Waterways is

convening,
an "abandoned vessel advisory committee" to assist in this

effort.
RBOC is participating on the committee.


What about this Assembly Bill contravenes The getting rid of an

abandoned
boat by the harbor? They drag it up on the beach, the salvagers

strip it,
the remains, greatly diminished in bulk are put in the land fill.


IT'S ****ING ILLEGAL TO DISPOSE OF BOATS IN THIS MANNER.......
Read you own damned state laws, for God's sake. IF you were to take

a
look, you'd find, by doing a simple search like I did, no less than

100
laws pertaining DIRECTLY to the abandonment of recreational

vessels.


Where is the boat abandoned by the harbor district? Better get hold

of
yourself, you may explode.


Oh, holy ****, Bill!!!! You need to learn to read. Again, it is illegal
to abandon recreational boats anywhere in CA. jeez. If I do the simple
****ing google search FOR you, will you then realize, and admit that
you are wrong as can be?


Calif Bill January 5th 05 02:36 AM


"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:


Go to Pillar Point Harbor. They have a large sandy beach

inside
the
breakwater where they do not dredge. The boat does not get

into
the
water
system as little parts. And the $100 would be eaten up in

paper
work
a
couple of times over.

Perhaps you should take a look at the laws of your own state
regarding
such issues. Start with AB 1014

Task Force- Prevention of Abandoned Boats - RBOC is

following-up on
the
provisions of AB 1014 [Canciamilla, Chapter 357, Statutes of

2003],
legislation the organization sponsored in an effort to develop
strategies to prevent recreational vessels from being abandoned

and
to
facilitate the ability of owners to turn in their recreational
vessels
to public agencies for disposal in lieu of abandonment.



Under AB 1014, the Department of Boating and Waterways is
convening,
an "abandoned vessel advisory committee" to assist in this

effort.
RBOC is participating on the committee.


What about this Assembly Bill contravenes The getting rid of an
abandoned
boat by the harbor? They drag it up on the beach, the salvagers
strip it,
the remains, greatly diminished in bulk are put in the land fill.

IT'S ****ING ILLEGAL TO DISPOSE OF BOATS IN THIS MANNER.......
Read you own damned state laws, for God's sake. IF you were to take

a
look, you'd find, by doing a simple search like I did, no less than

100
laws pertaining DIRECTLY to the abandonment of recreational

vessels.


Where is the boat abandoned by the harbor district? Better get hold

of
yourself, you may explode.


Oh, holy ****, Bill!!!! You need to learn to read. Again, it is illegal
to abandon recreational boats anywhere in CA. jeez. If I do the simple
****ing google search FOR you, will you then realize, and admit that
you are wrong as can be?


I repeat "Where is the boat abandoned by the harbor district? Better get
hold of yourself, you may explode."




basskisser January 5th 05 01:00 PM


Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:


Go to Pillar Point Harbor. They have a large sandy beach

inside
the
breakwater where they do not dredge. The boat does not

get
into
the
water
system as little parts. And the $100 would be eaten up

in
paper
work
a
couple of times over.

Perhaps you should take a look at the laws of your own

state
regarding
such issues. Start with AB 1014

Task Force- Prevention of Abandoned Boats - RBOC is

following-up on
the
provisions of AB 1014 [Canciamilla, Chapter 357, Statutes

of
2003],
legislation the organization sponsored in an effort to

develop
strategies to prevent recreational vessels from being

abandoned
and
to
facilitate the ability of owners to turn in their

recreational
vessels
to public agencies for disposal in lieu of abandonment.



Under AB 1014, the Department of Boating and Waterways is
convening,
an "abandoned vessel advisory committee" to assist in this

effort.
RBOC is participating on the committee.


What about this Assembly Bill contravenes The getting rid of

an
abandoned
boat by the harbor? They drag it up on the beach, the

salvagers
strip it,
the remains, greatly diminished in bulk are put in the land

fill.

IT'S ****ING ILLEGAL TO DISPOSE OF BOATS IN THIS MANNER.......
Read you own damned state laws, for God's sake. IF you were to

take
a
look, you'd find, by doing a simple search like I did, no less

than
100
laws pertaining DIRECTLY to the abandonment of recreational

vessels.


Where is the boat abandoned by the harbor district? Better get

hold
of
yourself, you may explode.


Oh, holy ****, Bill!!!! You need to learn to read. Again, it is

illegal
to abandon recreational boats anywhere in CA. jeez. If I do the

simple
****ing google search FOR you, will you then realize, and admit

that
you are wrong as can be?


I repeat "Where is the boat abandoned by the harbor district? Better

get
hold of yourself, you may explode."


And you repeat your stupidity!!! Where in the above does it state
anything about a boat "abandoned by the harbor district"? It DOESN'T
you dummy!! A boat "abandoned by the harbor", has a completly different
meaning. Now, again, I can show you NO LESS than 100 laws pertaining to
the ILLEGAL abandonment of watercraft in the state of CA. I challenge
you to show me ONE piece of written LEGAL precedent that shows that it
is, in fact legal to abandon boats in the state of CA. CAN YOU?


P.Fritz January 5th 05 01:29 PM


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
k.net...

"basskisser" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing"
wrote in
message
...
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:17:45 GMT, "Eisboch"
wrote:


larsinla wrote in message

roups.com...
hi there,

I got an old baot in my slip and need to trash

it.
it is
a
coronado 27
build in 1972 and has not been sailed for a long
time.
engine
and
outboard engine are probably not working

anymore.

cannot donate since it is not worth anything.

didnt find a place that takes it yet (in the Bay
Area)

Can anyone point me to a a


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onmouseover="window.status='a

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yard/a
or
who or
whatever might take this
boat.

thanks,

larsinla


I had this recurring nightmare with an old boat

that I
had
once.
The
landfill wouldn't take it and I couldn't donate

it.
What
to
do
with it
when
it just wasn't worth keeping?

At the suggestion of a friend, I stuck a "For

Sale"
sign
on it
with an
asking price of 1000 bucks. Within 2 days I
"accepted" an
offer
of $500
and
the happy new owner towed it away.

My friend at the boat shop once a year cleans out

his
yard
of
boats
that go over the mechanics lien time limit or boats
just
left
in
the
yard by people who don't' want them anymore. He

sells
the
ones
worth
money, but most of them are junk.

Anyway - and I've actually been there when this

happens
-
he
puts a
couple out by the street with FREE signs on them.

They are gone within an hour.

It's like freakin magic. :)

Later,

Tom

At Pillar Point Harbor in Calif, the put the

abandoned
and
dead
beat
slip
paying boats in "The Box". They tow them up on the

beach
and
let
the
salvagers go at them.

Oh, bull****. Anybody with any sense would know that's

not
true.
There
are too many environmental regulations in place that

would
prevent
a
company from doing such, let alone the fact that the

boats
don't
belong
to them. That would be akin to me taking your boat out

of
your
yard
and
doing the same thing.


Actually they can tow your car out of your yard in some
states if
the
registration is not current. Stops urban blight.

That doesn't mean they can destroy it, or allow others to
destroy
it.

And the harbor district
has a perfectly legal right to do this.

Proof?

You do not pay your slip rental,
just like a mechanics lien, they own the boat.

Are you trying to say that having a lien on someone's

property
means
"they own" it??????

And after the salvagers get
through, there is very little to tow off to the landfill.
Works
well.

So, let me get this straight. You claim that the marina now
owns
the
boat, right? But, instead of selling it and making money

from
it,
they
decide to let salvagers make the money????? How stupid are

you,
Bill?


Look at the post from the guy trying to get rid of a Coronado

27
from
his
slip. People do not want to buy these boats, and if you tie

up
the
slip for
6 months trying to sell the boat for $1000 and the slip

rental is
worth $500
a month, How much money has the Harbor District made?

Here's an idea. SELL it to the salvagers. You then, at the very
least,
a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=make%20up"
onmouseover="window.status='a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=make%20up"
onmouseover="window.status='make up'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"make up/a'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"make up/a some of the
lose you've incurred. Do you think that the marina
actually WANTS to lose money? Do you think that the C.F.O. of

that
marina would say, hey, we can either lose $1000 dollars, or we

can
lose
$500, I think that we should lose the entire $1000????


Not enough profit in the boat to also have to pay for it. The
Sacramento
Delta is littered with abandoned boats. Some are even large

barges.
Enviromental disasters waiting. The Counties spend millions

trying
to get
rid of them. So you think they are going to tie up a $500 /

month
slip for
2 months on the bet that the boat might be sold for $1000? I can

see
why
you are not wealthy.

And I can see why you are a handy man.


And a really good handyman. And not broke.


There's a lot of people in this country who aren't "broke". Now, how do
you know that I'm "not wealthy", Bill? Please, tell the group what you
know of my income, investments, stocks, retirement portfolios, etc.


Assuming your work is like your language and the argumentive posting, I
have
to assume you are not high up the food chain.


He recently bragged about having paid off his house........worst investment
you can make. Just more evidence that he is all blow and no dough.






basskisser January 5th 05 03:36 PM


P.Fritz wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
k.net...

"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message

oups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message

ups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message

oups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing"


wrote in
message

...
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:17:45 GMT, "Eisboch"
wrote:


larsinla wrote in message


roups.com...
hi there,

I got an old baot in my slip and need to

trash
it.
it is
a
coronado 27
build in 1972 and has not been sailed for a

long
time.
engine
and
outboard engine are probably not working
anymore.

cannot donate since it is not worth

anything.

didnt find a place that takes it yet (in

the Bay
Area)

Can anyone point me to a a


href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a


href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=junk%20yard"
onmouseover="window.status='a

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onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk

yard/a';
return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk

yard/a';
return
true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"junk
yard/a
or
who or
whatever might take this
boat.

thanks,

larsinla


I had this recurring nightmare with an old

boat
that I
had
once.
The
landfill wouldn't take it and I couldn't

donate
it.
What
to
do
with it
when
it just wasn't worth keeping?

At the suggestion of a friend, I stuck a "For
Sale"
sign
on it
with an
asking price of 1000 bucks. Within 2 days I
"accepted" an
offer
of $500
and
the happy new owner towed it away.

My friend at the boat shop once a year cleans

out
his
yard
of
boats
that go over the mechanics lien time limit or

boats
just
left
in
the
yard by people who don't' want them anymore.

He
sells
the
ones
worth
money, but most of them are junk.

Anyway - and I've actually been there when

this
happens
-
he
puts a
couple out by the street with FREE signs on

them.

They are gone within an hour.

It's like freakin magic. :)

Later,

Tom

At Pillar Point Harbor in Calif, the put the
abandoned
and
dead
beat
slip
paying boats in "The Box". They tow them up on

the
beach
and
let
the
salvagers go at them.

Oh, bull****. Anybody with any sense would know

that's
not
true.
There
are too many environmental regulations in place

that
would
prevent
a
company from doing such, let alone the fact that

the
boats
don't
belong
to them. That would be akin to me taking your boat

out
of
your
yard
and
doing the same thing.


Actually they can tow your car out of your yard in

some
states if
the
registration is not current. Stops urban blight.

That doesn't mean they can destroy it, or allow others

to
destroy
it.

And the harbor district
has a perfectly legal right to do this.

Proof?

You do not pay your slip rental,
just like a mechanics lien, they own the boat.

Are you trying to say that having a lien on someone's
property
means
"they own" it??????

And after the salvagers get
through, there is very little to tow off to the

landfill.
Works
well.

So, let me get this straight. You claim that the

marina now
owns
the
boat, right? But, instead of selling it and making

money
from
it,
they
decide to let salvagers make the money????? How stupid

are
you,
Bill?


Look at the post from the guy trying to get rid of a

Coronado
27
from
his
slip. People do not want to buy these boats, and if you

tie
up
the
slip for
6 months trying to sell the boat for $1000 and the slip
rental is
worth $500
a month, How much money has the Harbor District made?

Here's an idea. SELL it to the salvagers. You then, at the

very
least,
a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=make%20up"
onmouseover="window.status='a
href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=make%20up"
onmouseover="window.status='a

href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=11&k=make%20up"
onmouseover="window.status='make up'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"make up/a'; return true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"make up/a'; return

true;"
onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"make up/a some

of the
lose you've incurred. Do you think that the marina
actually WANTS to lose money? Do you think that the C.F.O.

of
that
marina would say, hey, we can either lose $1000 dollars,

or we
can
lose
$500, I think that we should lose the entire $1000????


Not enough profit in the boat to also have to pay for it.

The
Sacramento
Delta is littered with abandoned boats. Some are even large
barges.
Enviromental disasters waiting. The Counties spend millions
trying
to get
rid of them. So you think they are going to tie up a $500 /
month
slip for
2 months on the bet that the boat might be sold for $1000?

I can
see
why
you are not wealthy.

And I can see why you are a handy man.


And a really good handyman. And not broke.

There's a lot of people in this country who aren't "broke". Now,

how do
you know that I'm "not wealthy", Bill? Please, tell the group what

you
know of my income, investments, stocks, retirement portfolios,

etc.


Assuming your work is like your language and the argumentive

posting, I
have
to assume you are not high up the food chain.


He recently bragged about having paid off his house........worst

investment
you can make. Just more evidence that he is all blow and no dough.

Really? Being debt free is a "bad investment"????
Now, back to the task at hand, Paul. YOU seem to want to interject
something into this thread. Perhaps you can show me ONE PIECE of LEGAL
work that says it's legal to abandon watercraft in CA. Can you? I can
show you more than 100 documents proving it is entirely ILLEGAL, with
one simple search.


Calif Bill January 5th 05 08:31 PM


"basskisser" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:


Go to Pillar Point Harbor. They have a large sandy beach
inside
the
breakwater where they do not dredge. The boat does not

get
into
the
water
system as little parts. And the $100 would be eaten up

in
paper
work
a
couple of times over.

Perhaps you should take a look at the laws of your own

state
regarding
such issues. Start with AB 1014

Task Force- Prevention of Abandoned Boats - RBOC is
following-up on
the
provisions of AB 1014 [Canciamilla, Chapter 357, Statutes

of
2003],
legislation the organization sponsored in an effort to

develop
strategies to prevent recreational vessels from being

abandoned
and
to
facilitate the ability of owners to turn in their

recreational
vessels
to public agencies for disposal in lieu of abandonment.



Under AB 1014, the Department of Boating and Waterways is
convening,
an "abandoned vessel advisory committee" to assist in this
effort.
RBOC is participating on the committee.


What about this Assembly Bill contravenes The getting rid of

an
abandoned
boat by the harbor? They drag it up on the beach, the

salvagers
strip it,
the remains, greatly diminished in bulk are put in the land

fill.

IT'S ****ING ILLEGAL TO DISPOSE OF BOATS IN THIS MANNER.......
Read you own damned state laws, for God's sake. IF you were to

take
a
look, you'd find, by doing a simple search like I did, no less

than
100
laws pertaining DIRECTLY to the abandonment of recreational
vessels.


Where is the boat abandoned by the harbor district? Better get

hold
of
yourself, you may explode.

Oh, holy ****, Bill!!!! You need to learn to read. Again, it is

illegal
to abandon recreational boats anywhere in CA. jeez. If I do the

simple
****ing google search FOR you, will you then realize, and admit

that
you are wrong as can be?


I repeat "Where is the boat abandoned by the harbor district? Better

get
hold of yourself, you may explode."


And you repeat your stupidity!!! Where in the above does it state
anything about a boat "abandoned by the harbor district"? It DOESN'T
you dummy!! A boat "abandoned by the harbor", has a completly different
meaning. Now, again, I can show you NO LESS than 100 laws pertaining to
the ILLEGAL abandonment of watercraft in the state of CA. I challenge
you to show me ONE piece of written LEGAL precedent that shows that it
is, in fact legal to abandon boats in the state of CA. CAN YOU?


Where is the boat abandoned?



Calif Bill January 5th 05 10:18 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news:1104957210.808cf0ce0c631700986a2c665e14a288@t eranews...
Calif Bill wrote:

Where is the boat abandoned?


Have another brewski, Bile.



When you going to get those orphan children in South East Asia? You still
in NAMBLA?



Calif Bill January 5th 05 10:19 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news:1104957329.66d867a8b23bb332b6202731c0f259db@t eranews...
Calif Bill wrote:

did your wife and kids leave you? Did the dog pee on your leg? You

MUST be
a total wreck, if, just because your wife left you, or dog peed on your

leg,
your life fell apart that bad. It's just too bad that you can't act like

an
adult.


Uh, maybe you better cut back on the brewskis for today, Bile...
You present as a Miller Lite or Bud Lite kinda guy...



When you going to get those orphan children in South East Asia? You still
in NAMBLA?



Calif Bill January 5th 05 11:07 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news:1104957210.808cf0ce0c631700986a2c665e14a288@t eranews...

Calif Bill wrote:


Where is the boat abandoned?

Have another brewski, Bile.




When you going to get those orphan children in South East Asia? You

still
in NAMBLA?


Keep on drinking, Bile.


I guess I hit close to home.



Calif Bill January 6th 05 03:04 AM


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Calif Bill wrote:



Where is the boat abandoned?

Have another brewski, Bile.



When you going to get those orphan children in South East Asia? You


still

in NAMBLA?


Keep on drinking, Bile.



I guess I hit close to home.



Well, since you are a drunk and are mentally impaired, you're entitled
to your alcohol-induced guesses.

Have another brewski, Bile.


Get your meds renewed Harry. You are going off the deep end. You been
pushed over the edge, by the election results? And as to drinking, I think
it was before Christmas when I last drank, except for some nice wine with
Christmas and New Years dinner. You should not drink, Harry, when on
medicine. The alcohol acts as a solvent and increases the dosage you
receive.



basskisser January 6th 05 04:43 PM


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Calif Bill wrote:



Where is the boat abandoned?

Have another brewski, Bile.



When you going to get those orphan children in South East Asia?

You

still

in NAMBLA?


Keep on drinking, Bile.


I guess I hit close to home.



Well, since you are a drunk and are mentally impaired, you're

entitled
to your alcohol-induced guesses.

Have another brewski, Bile.


Get your meds renewed Harry. You are going off the deep end. You

been
pushed over the edge, by the election results? And as to drinking, I

think
it was before Christmas when I last drank, except for some nice wine

with
Christmas and New Years dinner. You should not drink, Harry, when on
medicine. The alcohol acts as a solvent and increases the dosage you
receive.


Hey, Bill, have you found any resources for me detailing how to legally
abandon watercraft in CA waters?


Calif Bill January 7th 05 02:02 AM


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Calif Bill wrote:



Where is the boat abandoned?

Have another brewski, Bile.



When you going to get those orphan children in South East Asia?

You

still

in NAMBLA?


Keep on drinking, Bile.


I guess I hit close to home.



Well, since you are a drunk and are mentally impaired, you're

entitled
to your alcohol-induced guesses.

Have another brewski, Bile.


Get your meds renewed Harry. You are going off the deep end. You

been
pushed over the edge, by the election results? And as to drinking, I

think
it was before Christmas when I last drank, except for some nice wine

with
Christmas and New Years dinner. You should not drink, Harry, when on
medicine. The alcohol acts as a solvent and increases the dosage you
receive.


Hey, Bill, have you found any resources for me detailing how to legally
abandon watercraft in CA waters?


Hey, doofus. Show me where the harbor district abandons the boat.



basskisser January 7th 05 12:59 PM


Calif Bill wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:



Where is the boat abandoned?

Have another brewski, Bile.



When you going to get those orphan children in South East

Asia?
You

still

in NAMBLA?


Keep on drinking, Bile.


I guess I hit close to home.



Well, since you are a drunk and are mentally impaired, you're

entitled
to your alcohol-induced guesses.

Have another brewski, Bile.

Get your meds renewed Harry. You are going off the deep end.

You
been
pushed over the edge, by the election results? And as to

drinking, I
think
it was before Christmas when I last drank, except for some nice

wine
with
Christmas and New Years dinner. You should not drink, Harry,

when on
medicine. The alcohol acts as a solvent and increases the dosage

you
receive.


Hey, Bill, have you found any resources for me detailing how to

legally
abandon watercraft in CA waters?


Hey, doofus. Show me where the harbor district abandons the boat.


Hey, doofus, I never SAID the ****ing harbor district abandons the
boat. I said, again, that it is totally illegal to beach and abandon
boats in CA waters. YOU are the one saying it's not. Show me ONE PIECE
of documentation where it says it's legal to do so.


P.Fritz January 7th 05 01:28 PM


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Calif Bill wrote:



Where is the boat abandoned?

Have another brewski, Bile.



When you going to get those orphan children in South East Asia?

You

still

in NAMBLA?


Keep on drinking, Bile.


I guess I hit close to home.



Well, since you are a drunk and are mentally impaired, you're

entitled
to your alcohol-induced guesses.

Have another brewski, Bile.

Get your meds renewed Harry. You are going off the deep end. You

been
pushed over the edge, by the election results? And as to drinking, I

think
it was before Christmas when I last drank, except for some nice wine

with
Christmas and New Years dinner. You should not drink, Harry, when on
medicine. The alcohol acts as a solvent and increases the dosage you
receive.


Hey, Bill, have you found any resources for me detailing how to legally
abandon watercraft in CA waters?


Hey, doofus. Show me where the harbor district abandons the boat.


Cripes.....asslicker is dumber than a tree stump.






Calif Bill January 7th 05 06:22 PM


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Calif Bill wrote:



Where is the boat abandoned?

Have another brewski, Bile.



When you going to get those orphan children in South East

Asia?
You

still

in NAMBLA?


Keep on drinking, Bile.


I guess I hit close to home.



Well, since you are a drunk and are mentally impaired, you're
entitled
to your alcohol-induced guesses.

Have another brewski, Bile.

Get your meds renewed Harry. You are going off the deep end.

You
been
pushed over the edge, by the election results? And as to

drinking, I
think
it was before Christmas when I last drank, except for some nice

wine
with
Christmas and New Years dinner. You should not drink, Harry,

when on
medicine. The alcohol acts as a solvent and increases the dosage

you
receive.

Hey, Bill, have you found any resources for me detailing how to

legally
abandon watercraft in CA waters?


Hey, doofus. Show me where the harbor district abandons the boat.


Hey, doofus, I never SAID the ****ing harbor district abandons the
boat. I said, again, that it is totally illegal to beach and abandon
boats in CA waters. YOU are the one saying it's not. Show me ONE PIECE
of documentation where it says it's legal to do so.


Hey foul mouthed doofus. You are the one accusing the harbor district of
abandoning the boat! I said they pull it up on the beach, the salvagers get
to go at the boat. YOU state they can not do this as it is illegal to
abandon a boat in California. Where are you registered as a PE Kevin?



basskisser January 10th 05 01:06 PM


Calif Bill wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:



Where is the boat abandoned?

Have another brewski, Bile.



When you going to get those orphan children in South

East
Asia?
You

still

in NAMBLA?


Keep on drinking, Bile.


I guess I hit close to home.



Well, since you are a drunk and are mentally impaired,

you're
entitled
to your alcohol-induced guesses.

Have another brewski, Bile.

Get your meds renewed Harry. You are going off the deep end.

You
been
pushed over the edge, by the election results? And as to

drinking, I
think
it was before Christmas when I last drank, except for some

nice
wine
with
Christmas and New Years dinner. You should not drink, Harry,

when on
medicine. The alcohol acts as a solvent and increases the

dosage
you
receive.

Hey, Bill, have you found any resources for me detailing how to

legally
abandon watercraft in CA waters?


Hey, doofus. Show me where the harbor district abandons the

boat.

Hey, doofus, I never SAID the ****ing harbor district abandons the
boat. I said, again, that it is totally illegal to beach and

abandon
boats in CA waters. YOU are the one saying it's not. Show me ONE

PIECE
of documentation where it says it's legal to do so.


Hey foul mouthed doofus. You are the one accusing the harbor

district of
abandoning the boat! I said they pull it up on the beach, the

salvagers get
to go at the boat. YOU state they can not do this as it is illegal

to
abandon a boat in California. Where are you registered as a PE

Kevin?

I don't know about Kevin, but *I* am registered in several states.
And, yes, I DO say it's illegal to abandon boats in CA. And it is. If
you think that when they beach a boat and let the salvagers have at it,
that it's not abandonment, then you are just dumb. Now, IF they are
doing as you said, they are also violating your states environmental
laws. So, you lied, you know it.


JimH January 10th 05 01:21 PM


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Calif Bill wrote:



Where is the boat abandoned?

Have another brewski, Bile.



When you going to get those orphan children in South

East
Asia?
You

still

in NAMBLA?


Keep on drinking, Bile.


I guess I hit close to home.



Well, since you are a drunk and are mentally impaired,

you're
entitled
to your alcohol-induced guesses.

Have another brewski, Bile.

Get your meds renewed Harry. You are going off the deep end.
You
been
pushed over the edge, by the election results? And as to
drinking, I
think
it was before Christmas when I last drank, except for some

nice
wine
with
Christmas and New Years dinner. You should not drink, Harry,
when on
medicine. The alcohol acts as a solvent and increases the

dosage
you
receive.

Hey, Bill, have you found any resources for me detailing how to
legally
abandon watercraft in CA waters?


Hey, doofus. Show me where the harbor district abandons the

boat.

Hey, doofus, I never SAID the ****ing harbor district abandons the
boat. I said, again, that it is totally illegal to beach and

abandon
boats in CA waters. YOU are the one saying it's not. Show me ONE

PIECE
of documentation where it says it's legal to do so.


Hey foul mouthed doofus. You are the one accusing the harbor

district of
abandoning the boat! I said they pull it up on the beach, the

salvagers get
to go at the boat. YOU state they can not do this as it is illegal

to
abandon a boat in California. Where are you registered as a PE

Kevin?

I don't know about Kevin, but *I* am registered in several states.



Just like you have bachelors and masters degrees in engineering and a paypal
escrow account?



basskisser January 10th 05 02:45 PM


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Calif Bill wrote:



Where is the boat abandoned?

Have another brewski, Bile.



When you going to get those orphan children in South

East
Asia?
You

still

in NAMBLA?


Keep on drinking, Bile.


I guess I hit close to home.



Well, since you are a drunk and are mentally impaired,

you're
entitled
to your alcohol-induced guesses.

Have another brewski, Bile.

Get your meds renewed Harry. You are going off the deep

end.
You
been
pushed over the edge, by the election results? And as to
drinking, I
think
it was before Christmas when I last drank, except for some

nice
wine
with
Christmas and New Years dinner. You should not drink,

Harry,
when on
medicine. The alcohol acts as a solvent and increases the

dosage
you
receive.

Hey, Bill, have you found any resources for me detailing how

to
legally
abandon watercraft in CA waters?


Hey, doofus. Show me where the harbor district abandons the

boat.

Hey, doofus, I never SAID the ****ing harbor district abandons

the
boat. I said, again, that it is totally illegal to beach and

abandon
boats in CA waters. YOU are the one saying it's not. Show me ONE

PIECE
of documentation where it says it's legal to do so.


Hey foul mouthed doofus. You are the one accusing the harbor

district of
abandoning the boat! I said they pull it up on the beach, the

salvagers get
to go at the boat. YOU state they can not do this as it is

illegal
to
abandon a boat in California. Where are you registered as a PE

Kevin?

I don't know about Kevin, but *I* am registered in several states.



Just like you have bachelors and masters degrees in engineering

Yes.


basskisser January 10th 05 02:47 PM


Harry Krause wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:


I don't know about Kevin, but *I* am registered in several states.
And, yes, I DO say it's illegal to abandon boats in CA. And it is.

If
you think that when they beach a boat and let the salvagers have at

it,
that it's not abandonment, then you are just dumb. Now, IF they are
doing as you said, they are also violating your states

environmental
laws. So, you lied, you know it.


California Bile isn't overly concerned about environmental issues.


True, but, regardless, there are such laws. And he can't tell me that
the harbors are just abandoning boats against state laws and statutes.


JimH January 10th 05 02:49 PM


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Calif Bill wrote:



Where is the boat abandoned?

Have another brewski, Bile.



When you going to get those orphan children in South
East
Asia?
You

still

in NAMBLA?


Keep on drinking, Bile.


I guess I hit close to home.



Well, since you are a drunk and are mentally impaired,
you're
entitled
to your alcohol-induced guesses.

Have another brewski, Bile.

Get your meds renewed Harry. You are going off the deep

end.
You
been
pushed over the edge, by the election results? And as to
drinking, I
think
it was before Christmas when I last drank, except for some
nice
wine
with
Christmas and New Years dinner. You should not drink,

Harry,
when on
medicine. The alcohol acts as a solvent and increases the
dosage
you
receive.

Hey, Bill, have you found any resources for me detailing how

to
legally
abandon watercraft in CA waters?


Hey, doofus. Show me where the harbor district abandons the
boat.

Hey, doofus, I never SAID the ****ing harbor district abandons

the
boat. I said, again, that it is totally illegal to beach and
abandon
boats in CA waters. YOU are the one saying it's not. Show me ONE
PIECE
of documentation where it says it's legal to do so.


Hey foul mouthed doofus. You are the one accusing the harbor
district of
abandoning the boat! I said they pull it up on the beach, the
salvagers get
to go at the boat. YOU state they can not do this as it is

illegal
to
abandon a boat in California. Where are you registered as a PE
Kevin?

I don't know about Kevin, but *I* am registered in several states.



Just like you have bachelors and masters degrees in engineering


Yes.


ROTFLMAO!



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Calif Bill wrote:



Where is the boat abandoned?

Have another brewski, Bile.



When you going to get those orphan children in South

East
Asia?
You

still

in NAMBLA?


Keep on drinking, Bile.


I guess I hit close to home.



Well, since you are a drunk and are mentally impaired,

you're
entitled
to your alcohol-induced guesses.

Have another brewski, Bile.

Get your meds renewed Harry. You are going off the deep end.
You
been
pushed over the edge, by the election results? And as to
drinking, I
think
it was before Christmas when I last drank, except for some

nice
wine
with
Christmas and New Years dinner. You should not drink, Harry,
when on
medicine. The alcohol acts as a solvent and increases the

dosage
you
receive.

Hey, Bill, have you found any resources for me detailing how to
legally
abandon watercraft in CA waters?


Hey, doofus. Show me where the harbor district abandons the

boat.

Hey, doofus, I never SAID the ****ing harbor district abandons the
boat. I said, again, that it is totally illegal to beach and

abandon
boats in CA waters. YOU are the one saying it's not. Show me ONE

PIECE
of documentation where it says it's legal to do so.


Hey foul mouthed doofus. You are the one accusing the harbor

district of
abandoning the boat! I said they pull it up on the beach, the

salvagers get
to go at the boat. YOU state they can not do this as it is illegal

to
abandon a boat in California. Where are you registered as a PE

Kevin?

I don't know about Kevin, but *I* am registered in several states.



Just like you have bachelors and masters degrees in engineering and a
paypal escrow account?


Hey, he's got to stay ahead of the competition to maintain his title of
"King of the NG idiots"
krause is giving him a run for his money






Calif Bill January 10th 05 08:31 PM


"basskisser" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:


I don't know about Kevin, but *I* am registered in several states.
And, yes, I DO say it's illegal to abandon boats in CA. And it is.

If
you think that when they beach a boat and let the salvagers have at

it,
that it's not abandonment, then you are just dumb. Now, IF they are
doing as you said, they are also violating your states

environmental
laws. So, you lied, you know it.


California Bile isn't overly concerned about environmental issues.


True, but, regardless, there are such laws. And he can't tell me that
the harbors are just abandoning boats against state laws and statutes.


Where are they abandoning the boat? They are putting it in temporary
storage, and since they now own the boat, they can let all the salvagers
they want at the boat.



basskisser January 10th 05 08:38 PM


Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:


I don't know about Kevin, but *I* am registered in several

states.
And, yes, I DO say it's illegal to abandon boats in CA. And it

is.
If
you think that when they beach a boat and let the salvagers

have at
it,
that it's not abandonment, then you are just dumb. Now, IF they

are
doing as you said, they are also violating your states

environmental
laws. So, you lied, you know it.


California Bile isn't overly concerned about environmental

issues.

True, but, regardless, there are such laws. And he can't tell me

that
the harbors are just abandoning boats against state laws and

statutes.


Where are they abandoning the boat? They are putting it in temporary
storage, and since they now own the boat, they can let all the

salvagers
they want at the boat.


Oh, NOW they are putting it in "temporary storage, huh? Please, I've
asked before, give the number of the marina that is doing this. I'd
like to talk to them. I'll give a full report, including the name of
the person I talk to, so anyone here can see for themselves that you
are full of ****. YOU said that they run the boat up on the beach and
let the salvager's have at it. That is a damned LIE. IF they did that,
they'd have more lawsuits, criminal charges, and environmental
citations than they knew what to do with.


P.Fritz January 10th 05 08:49 PM


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...

"basskisser" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:


I don't know about Kevin, but *I* am registered in several states.
And, yes, I DO say it's illegal to abandon boats in CA. And it is.

If
you think that when they beach a boat and let the salvagers have at

it,
that it's not abandonment, then you are just dumb. Now, IF they are
doing as you said, they are also violating your states

environmental
laws. So, you lied, you know it.


California Bile isn't overly concerned about environmental issues.


True, but, regardless, there are such laws. And he can't tell me that
the harbors are just abandoning boats against state laws and statutes.


Where are they abandoning the boat? They are putting it in temporary
storage, and since they now own the boat, they can let all the salvagers
they want at the boat.


Do you really expect the "King of NG idiots" to grasp a simple concept like
that?






basskisser January 10th 05 08:56 PM


Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Harry Krause wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:


I don't know about Kevin, but *I* am registered in several

states.
And, yes, I DO say it's illegal to abandon boats in CA. And it

is.
If
you think that when they beach a boat and let the salvagers

have at
it,
that it's not abandonment, then you are just dumb. Now, IF they

are
doing as you said, they are also violating your states

environmental
laws. So, you lied, you know it.


California Bile isn't overly concerned about environmental

issues.

True, but, regardless, there are such laws. And he can't tell me

that
the harbors are just abandoning boats against state laws and

statutes.


Where are they abandoning the boat? They are putting it in temporary
storage, and since they now own the boat, they can let all the

salvagers
they want at the boat.


I've contacted them to ask, giving them your exact post saying that
they beach the boats and let salvagers have at them.
Anyone here that believes Bill should either call them or email them:
email:
phone: 650-726-4723


Calif Bill January 11th 05 05:18 AM


"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Harry Krause wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:


I don't know about Kevin, but *I* am registered in several

states.
And, yes, I DO say it's illegal to abandon boats in CA. And it

is.
If
you think that when they beach a boat and let the salvagers

have at
it,
that it's not abandonment, then you are just dumb. Now, IF they

are
doing as you said, they are also violating your states
environmental
laws. So, you lied, you know it.


California Bile isn't overly concerned about environmental

issues.

True, but, regardless, there are such laws. And he can't tell me

that
the harbors are just abandoning boats against state laws and

statutes.


Where are they abandoning the boat? They are putting it in temporary
storage, and since they now own the boat, they can let all the

salvagers
they want at the boat.


Oh, NOW they are putting it in "temporary storage, huh? Please, I've
asked before, give the number of the marina that is doing this. I'd
like to talk to them. I'll give a full report, including the name of
the person I talk to, so anyone here can see for themselves that you
are full of ****. YOU said that they run the boat up on the beach and
let the salvager's have at it. That is a damned LIE. IF they did that,
they'd have more lawsuits, criminal charges, and environmental
citations than they knew what to do with.


Why would they have criminal charges. They own the beach, they own the boat
(mechanics lien), and what is enviromentally pooched?



Calif Bill January 11th 05 05:24 AM


"basskisser" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:


I don't know about Kevin, but *I* am registered in several

states.
And, yes, I DO say it's illegal to abandon boats in CA. And it

is.
If
you think that when they beach a boat and let the salvagers

have at
it,
that it's not abandonment, then you are just dumb. Now, IF they

are
doing as you said, they are also violating your states
environmental
laws. So, you lied, you know it.


California Bile isn't overly concerned about environmental

issues.

True, but, regardless, there are such laws. And he can't tell me

that
the harbors are just abandoning boats against state laws and

statutes.


Where are they abandoning the boat? They are putting it in temporary
storage, and since they now own the boat, they can let all the

salvagers
they want at the boat.


I've contacted them to ask, giving them your exact post saying that
they beach the boats and let salvagers have at them.
Anyone here that believes Bill should either call them or email them:
email:
phone: 650-726-4723


w.smharbor.com/pillarpoint/

Putting it in the Box is the term.

Just like in Diego Garcia, they blow up the boats that get siezed in the no
boat zone with gun fire. You going to complain that they are breaking the
law there also?

And where is your PE listing Kevin?



basskisser January 11th 05 01:06 PM


Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:


I don't know about Kevin, but *I* am registered in several

states.
And, yes, I DO say it's illegal to abandon boats in CA. And

it
is.
If
you think that when they beach a boat and let the salvagers

have at
it,
that it's not abandonment, then you are just dumb. Now, IF

they
are
doing as you said, they are also violating your states
environmental
laws. So, you lied, you know it.


California Bile isn't overly concerned about environmental

issues.

True, but, regardless, there are such laws. And he can't tell

me
that
the harbors are just abandoning boats against state laws and

statutes.


Where are they abandoning the boat? They are putting it in

temporary
storage, and since they now own the boat, they can let all the

salvagers
they want at the boat.


Oh, NOW they are putting it in "temporary storage, huh? Please,

I've
asked before, give the number of the marina that is doing this. I'd
like to talk to them. I'll give a full report, including the name

of
the person I talk to, so anyone here can see for themselves that

you
are full of ****. YOU said that they run the boat up on the beach

and
let the salvager's have at it. That is a damned LIE. IF they did

that,
they'd have more lawsuits, criminal charges, and environmental
citations than they knew what to do with.


Why would they have criminal charges. They own the beach, they own

the boat
(mechanics lien), and what is enviromentally pooched?


Jeez, you are dumb, Bill. It doesn't matter who owns the beach. That
doesn't give them a right to dump boats there.
There are very strict environmental laws dealing with illegal dumping
in CA waters, regardless of whether it actually causes environmental
harm. I suggest you read your own state's laws before commenting
further, your looking like an ass. Now, let me check my email and see
if Pillar point has gotten back to me yet. If so, I'll post it here, so
you can, again, be wrong.


Calif Bill January 11th 05 06:23 PM


"basskisser" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:


I don't know about Kevin, but *I* am registered in several
states.
And, yes, I DO say it's illegal to abandon boats in CA. And

it
is.
If
you think that when they beach a boat and let the salvagers
have at
it,
that it's not abandonment, then you are just dumb. Now, IF

they
are
doing as you said, they are also violating your states
environmental
laws. So, you lied, you know it.


California Bile isn't overly concerned about environmental
issues.

True, but, regardless, there are such laws. And he can't tell

me
that
the harbors are just abandoning boats against state laws and
statutes.


Where are they abandoning the boat? They are putting it in

temporary
storage, and since they now own the boat, they can let all the
salvagers
they want at the boat.

Oh, NOW they are putting it in "temporary storage, huh? Please,

I've
asked before, give the number of the marina that is doing this. I'd
like to talk to them. I'll give a full report, including the name

of
the person I talk to, so anyone here can see for themselves that

you
are full of ****. YOU said that they run the boat up on the beach

and
let the salvager's have at it. That is a damned LIE. IF they did

that,
they'd have more lawsuits, criminal charges, and environmental
citations than they knew what to do with.


Why would they have criminal charges. They own the beach, they own

the boat
(mechanics lien), and what is enviromentally pooched?


Jeez, you are dumb, Bill. It doesn't matter who owns the beach. That
doesn't give them a right to dump boats there.
There are very strict environmental laws dealing with illegal dumping
in CA waters, regardless of whether it actually causes environmental
harm. I suggest you read your own state's laws before commenting
further, your looking like an ass. Now, let me check my email and see
if Pillar point has gotten back to me yet. If so, I'll post it here, so
you can, again, be wrong.


Temporary beaching is allowed you doofus. And the beaching is only
temporary. The beach is normally nice a clean of boats. Lots of bird poop,
etc. Damn you show you show your stupidity. And where are you registered
as a PE Kevin?



basskisser January 11th 05 08:03 PM


Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Harry Krause wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:


I don't know about Kevin, but *I* am registered in

several
states.
And, yes, I DO say it's illegal to abandon boats in CA.

And
it
is.
If
you think that when they beach a boat and let the

salvagers
have at
it,
that it's not abandonment, then you are just dumb. Now,

IF
they
are
doing as you said, they are also violating your states
environmental
laws. So, you lied, you know it.


California Bile isn't overly concerned about

environmental
issues.

True, but, regardless, there are such laws. And he can't

tell
me
that
the harbors are just abandoning boats against state laws

and
statutes.


Where are they abandoning the boat? They are putting it in

temporary
storage, and since they now own the boat, they can let all

the
salvagers
they want at the boat.

Oh, NOW they are putting it in "temporary storage, huh? Please,

I've
asked before, give the number of the marina that is doing this.

I'd
like to talk to them. I'll give a full report, including the

name
of
the person I talk to, so anyone here can see for themselves

that
you
are full of ****. YOU said that they run the boat up on the

beach
and
let the salvager's have at it. That is a damned LIE. IF they

did
that,
they'd have more lawsuits, criminal charges, and environmental
citations than they knew what to do with.


Why would they have criminal charges. They own the beach, they

own
the boat
(mechanics lien), and what is enviromentally pooched?


Jeez, you are dumb, Bill. It doesn't matter who owns the beach.

That
doesn't give them a right to dump boats there.
There are very strict environmental laws dealing with illegal

dumping
in CA waters, regardless of whether it actually causes

environmental
harm. I suggest you read your own state's laws before commenting
further, your looking like an ass. Now, let me check my email and

see
if Pillar point has gotten back to me yet. If so, I'll post it

here, so
you can, again, be wrong.


Temporary beaching is allowed you doofus. And the beaching is only
temporary. The beach is normally nice a clean of boats. Lots of

bird poop,
etc. Damn you show you show your stupidity. And where are you

registered
as a PE Kevin?


Uh, you dumb ass, again, I've shown you SEVERAL laws where abandoning
watercraft in CA waters is illegal. Please show me ONE where it IS
legal. Can you? Now, "temporary beaching" is fine. BUT, temporary
beaching isn't what you've suggested that the marinas there are doing.
YOU said that they beach the boats, and let the salvagers have at them.
That, is not temporary. Again, show me a law that says that it is
legal. You can't, because there is none. I've shown, and found pages
and pages of CA law that says that it is ILLEGAL. The proof is in the
pudding, as they say, and I've shown ALL of the proof here in this
argument, and you've shown NONE. I'm awaiting Pillar Point's official
word on the matter, and I'll post it here, so we'll KNOW who's stupid.
Speaking of stupid, I'm not Kevin, and I'm registered in several
states.


basskisser January 11th 05 08:04 PM


Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Harry Krause wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:


I don't know about Kevin, but *I* am registered in several

states.
And, yes, I DO say it's illegal to abandon boats in CA. And

it
is.
If
you think that when they beach a boat and let the salvagers

have at
it,
that it's not abandonment, then you are just dumb. Now, IF

they
are
doing as you said, they are also violating your states
environmental
laws. So, you lied, you know it.


California Bile isn't overly concerned about environmental

issues.

True, but, regardless, there are such laws. And he can't tell

me
that
the harbors are just abandoning boats against state laws and

statutes.


Where are they abandoning the boat? They are putting it in

temporary
storage, and since they now own the boat, they can let all the

salvagers
they want at the boat.


I've contacted them to ask, giving them your exact post saying that
they beach the boats and let salvagers have at them.
Anyone here that believes Bill should either call them or email

them:
email:
phone: 650-726-4723


w.smharbor.com/pillarpoint/

Putting it in the Box is the term.

Just like in Diego Garcia, they blow up the boats that get siezed in

the no
boat zone with gun fire. You going to complain that they are

breaking the
law there also?

And where is your PE listing Kevin?

If they are breaking the law, yes indeed.
I'm not Kevin.


Calif Bill January 12th 05 03:57 AM


"basskisser" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Harry Krause wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:


I don't know about Kevin, but *I* am registered in

several
states.
And, yes, I DO say it's illegal to abandon boats in CA.

And
it
is.
If
you think that when they beach a boat and let the

salvagers
have at
it,
that it's not abandonment, then you are just dumb. Now,

IF
they
are
doing as you said, they are also violating your states
environmental
laws. So, you lied, you know it.


California Bile isn't overly concerned about

environmental
issues.

True, but, regardless, there are such laws. And he can't

tell
me
that
the harbors are just abandoning boats against state laws

and
statutes.


Where are they abandoning the boat? They are putting it in
temporary
storage, and since they now own the boat, they can let all

the
salvagers
they want at the boat.

Oh, NOW they are putting it in "temporary storage, huh? Please,
I've
asked before, give the number of the marina that is doing this.

I'd
like to talk to them. I'll give a full report, including the

name
of
the person I talk to, so anyone here can see for themselves

that
you
are full of ****. YOU said that they run the boat up on the

beach
and
let the salvager's have at it. That is a damned LIE. IF they

did
that,
they'd have more lawsuits, criminal charges, and environmental
citations than they knew what to do with.


Why would they have criminal charges. They own the beach, they

own
the boat
(mechanics lien), and what is enviromentally pooched?

Jeez, you are dumb, Bill. It doesn't matter who owns the beach.

That
doesn't give them a right to dump boats there.
There are very strict environmental laws dealing with illegal

dumping
in CA waters, regardless of whether it actually causes

environmental
harm. I suggest you read your own state's laws before commenting
further, your looking like an ass. Now, let me check my email and

see
if Pillar point has gotten back to me yet. If so, I'll post it

here, so
you can, again, be wrong.


Temporary beaching is allowed you doofus. And the beaching is only
temporary. The beach is normally nice a clean of boats. Lots of

bird poop,
etc. Damn you show you show your stupidity. And where are you

registered
as a PE Kevin?


Uh, you dumb ass, again, I've shown you SEVERAL laws where abandoning
watercraft in CA waters is illegal. Please show me ONE where it IS
legal. Can you? Now, "temporary beaching" is fine. BUT, temporary
beaching isn't what you've suggested that the marinas there are doing.
YOU said that they beach the boats, and let the salvagers have at them.
That, is not temporary. Again, show me a law that says that it is
legal. You can't, because there is none. I've shown, and found pages
and pages of CA law that says that it is ILLEGAL. The proof is in the
pudding, as they say, and I've shown ALL of the proof here in this
argument, and you've shown NONE. I'm awaiting Pillar Point's official
word on the matter, and I'll post it here, so we'll KNOW who's stupid.
Speaking of stupid, I'm not Kevin, and I'm registered in several
states.


Registered as a sex offender does not count. As I stated they let the
salvagers at the boat and the remains are then sent to the landfill. Where
is that abandoning the boat on the beach. Abandoning



basskisser January 12th 05 01:45 PM


Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message

oups.com...

Harry Krause wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:


I don't know about Kevin, but *I* am registered in

several
states.
And, yes, I DO say it's illegal to abandon boats in

CA.
And
it
is.
If
you think that when they beach a boat and let the

salvagers
have at
it,
that it's not abandonment, then you are just dumb.

Now,
IF
they
are
doing as you said, they are also violating your

states
environmental
laws. So, you lied, you know it.


California Bile isn't overly concerned about

environmental
issues.

True, but, regardless, there are such laws. And he

can't
tell
me
that
the harbors are just abandoning boats against state

laws
and
statutes.


Where are they abandoning the boat? They are putting it

in
temporary
storage, and since they now own the boat, they can let

all
the
salvagers
they want at the boat.

Oh, NOW they are putting it in "temporary storage, huh?

Please,
I've
asked before, give the number of the marina that is doing

this.
I'd
like to talk to them. I'll give a full report, including

the
name
of
the person I talk to, so anyone here can see for themselves

that
you
are full of ****. YOU said that they run the boat up on the

beach
and
let the salvager's have at it. That is a damned LIE. IF

they
did
that,
they'd have more lawsuits, criminal charges, and

environmental
citations than they knew what to do with.


Why would they have criminal charges. They own the beach,

they
own
the boat
(mechanics lien), and what is enviromentally pooched?

Jeez, you are dumb, Bill. It doesn't matter who owns the beach.

That
doesn't give them a right to dump boats there.
There are very strict environmental laws dealing with illegal

dumping
in CA waters, regardless of whether it actually causes

environmental
harm. I suggest you read your own state's laws before

commenting
further, your looking like an ass. Now, let me check my email

and
see
if Pillar point has gotten back to me yet. If so, I'll post it

here, so
you can, again, be wrong.


Temporary beaching is allowed you doofus. And the beaching is

only
temporary. The beach is normally nice a clean of boats. Lots of

bird poop,
etc. Damn you show you show your stupidity. And where are you

registered
as a PE Kevin?


Uh, you dumb ass, again, I've shown you SEVERAL laws where

abandoning
watercraft in CA waters is illegal. Please show me ONE where it IS
legal. Can you? Now, "temporary beaching" is fine. BUT, temporary
beaching isn't what you've suggested that the marinas there are

doing.
YOU said that they beach the boats, and let the salvagers have at

them.
That, is not temporary. Again, show me a law that says that it is
legal. You can't, because there is none. I've shown, and found

pages
and pages of CA law that says that it is ILLEGAL. The proof is in

the
pudding, as they say, and I've shown ALL of the proof here in this
argument, and you've shown NONE. I'm awaiting Pillar Point's

official
word on the matter, and I'll post it here, so we'll KNOW who's

stupid.
Speaking of stupid, I'm not Kevin, and I'm registered in several
states.


Registered as a sex offender does not count.


Do tell Bill, what evidence do you have of the above? Do you have any,
or are you just making ignorant statements?

As I stated they let the
salvagers at the boat and the remains are then sent to the landfill.

Where
is that abandoning the boat on the beach. Abandoning


Again, please, read your state laws. There are very specific laws
concerning this in your state. A simple search did the trick. IF a boat
is beached, or sunken for the PURPOSE OF DISPOSAL, it is, indeed
against the law. Further, if a boat is beached with the intent of
disposal it is a direct violation of CA's environmental laws.


basskisser January 13th 05 04:51 PM


Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message

oups.com...

Harry Krause wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:


I don't know about Kevin, but *I* am registered in

several
states.
And, yes, I DO say it's illegal to abandon boats in

CA.
And
it
is.
If
you think that when they beach a boat and let the

salvagers
have at
it,
that it's not abandonment, then you are just dumb.

Now,
IF
they
are
doing as you said, they are also violating your

states
environmental
laws. So, you lied, you know it.


California Bile isn't overly concerned about

environmental
issues.

True, but, regardless, there are such laws. And he

can't
tell
me
that
the harbors are just abandoning boats against state

laws
and
statutes.


Where are they abandoning the boat? They are putting it

in
temporary
storage, and since they now own the boat, they can let

all
the
salvagers
they want at the boat.

Oh, NOW they are putting it in "temporary storage, huh?

Please,
I've
asked before, give the number of the marina that is doing

this.
I'd
like to talk to them. I'll give a full report, including

the
name
of
the person I talk to, so anyone here can see for themselves

that
you
are full of ****. YOU said that they run the boat up on the

beach
and
let the salvager's have at it. That is a damned LIE. IF

they
did
that,
they'd have more lawsuits, criminal charges, and

environmental
citations than they knew what to do with.


Why would they have criminal charges. They own the beach,

they
own
the boat
(mechanics lien), and what is enviromentally pooched?

Jeez, you are dumb, Bill. It doesn't matter who owns the beach.

That
doesn't give them a right to dump boats there.
There are very strict environmental laws dealing with illegal

dumping
in CA waters, regardless of whether it actually causes

environmental
harm. I suggest you read your own state's laws before

commenting
further, your looking like an ass. Now, let me check my email

and
see
if Pillar point has gotten back to me yet. If so, I'll post it

here, so
you can, again, be wrong.


Temporary beaching is allowed you doofus. And the beaching is

only
temporary. The beach is normally nice a clean of boats. Lots of

bird poop,
etc. Damn you show you show your stupidity. And where are you

registered
as a PE Kevin?


Uh, you dumb ass, again, I've shown you SEVERAL laws where

abandoning
watercraft in CA waters is illegal. Please show me ONE where it IS
legal. Can you? Now, "temporary beaching" is fine. BUT, temporary
beaching isn't what you've suggested that the marinas there are

doing.
YOU said that they beach the boats, and let the salvagers have at

them.
That, is not temporary. Again, show me a law that says that it is
legal. You can't, because there is none. I've shown, and found

pages
and pages of CA law that says that it is ILLEGAL. The proof is in

the
pudding, as they say, and I've shown ALL of the proof here in this
argument, and you've shown NONE. I'm awaiting Pillar Point's

official
word on the matter, and I'll post it here, so we'll KNOW who's

stupid.
Speaking of stupid, I'm not Kevin, and I'm registered in several
states.


Registered as a sex offender does not count. As I stated they let

the
salvagers at the boat and the remains are then sent to the landfill.

Where
is that abandoning the boat on the beach. Abandoning


Still haven't heard back from Pillar Point. My bet is that they don't
think it's a serious email, that someone could actually believe that
they do such a thing that violates several laws.


Calif Bill January 13th 05 08:09 PM


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Calif Bill wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message

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Harry Krause wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:


I don't know about Kevin, but *I* am registered in
several
states.
And, yes, I DO say it's illegal to abandon boats in

CA.
And
it
is.
If
you think that when they beach a boat and let the
salvagers
have at
it,
that it's not abandonment, then you are just dumb.

Now,
IF
they
are
doing as you said, they are also violating your

states
environmental
laws. So, you lied, you know it.


California Bile isn't overly concerned about
environmental
issues.

True, but, regardless, there are such laws. And he

can't
tell
me
that
the harbors are just abandoning boats against state

laws
and
statutes.


Where are they abandoning the boat? They are putting it

in
temporary
storage, and since they now own the boat, they can let

all
the
salvagers
they want at the boat.

Oh, NOW they are putting it in "temporary storage, huh?

Please,
I've
asked before, give the number of the marina that is doing

this.
I'd
like to talk to them. I'll give a full report, including

the
name
of
the person I talk to, so anyone here can see for themselves
that
you
are full of ****. YOU said that they run the boat up on the
beach
and
let the salvager's have at it. That is a damned LIE. IF

they
did
that,
they'd have more lawsuits, criminal charges, and

environmental
citations than they knew what to do with.


Why would they have criminal charges. They own the beach,

they
own
the boat
(mechanics lien), and what is enviromentally pooched?

Jeez, you are dumb, Bill. It doesn't matter who owns the beach.
That
doesn't give them a right to dump boats there.
There are very strict environmental laws dealing with illegal
dumping
in CA waters, regardless of whether it actually causes
environmental
harm. I suggest you read your own state's laws before

commenting
further, your looking like an ass. Now, let me check my email

and
see
if Pillar point has gotten back to me yet. If so, I'll post it
here, so
you can, again, be wrong.


Temporary beaching is allowed you doofus. And the beaching is

only
temporary. The beach is normally nice a clean of boats. Lots of
bird poop,
etc. Damn you show you show your stupidity. And where are you
registered
as a PE Kevin?

Uh, you dumb ass, again, I've shown you SEVERAL laws where

abandoning
watercraft in CA waters is illegal. Please show me ONE where it IS
legal. Can you? Now, "temporary beaching" is fine. BUT, temporary
beaching isn't what you've suggested that the marinas there are

doing.
YOU said that they beach the boats, and let the salvagers have at

them.
That, is not temporary. Again, show me a law that says that it is
legal. You can't, because there is none. I've shown, and found

pages
and pages of CA law that says that it is ILLEGAL. The proof is in

the
pudding, as they say, and I've shown ALL of the proof here in this
argument, and you've shown NONE. I'm awaiting Pillar Point's

official
word on the matter, and I'll post it here, so we'll KNOW who's

stupid.
Speaking of stupid, I'm not Kevin, and I'm registered in several
states.


Registered as a sex offender does not count. As I stated they let

the
salvagers at the boat and the remains are then sent to the landfill.

Where
is that abandoning the boat on the beach. Abandoning


Still haven't heard back from Pillar Point. My bet is that they don't
think it's a serious email, that someone could actually believe that
they do such a thing that violates several laws.


They probably heard of the you "king of newsgroup idiots"



P.Fritz January 13th 05 08:12 PM


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Harry Krause wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:


I don't know about Kevin, but *I* am registered in
several
states.
And, yes, I DO say it's illegal to abandon boats in

CA.
And
it
is.
If
you think that when they beach a boat and let the
salvagers
have at
it,
that it's not abandonment, then you are just dumb.

Now,
IF
they
are
doing as you said, they are also violating your

states
environmental
laws. So, you lied, you know it.


California Bile isn't overly concerned about
environmental
issues.

True, but, regardless, there are such laws. And he

can't
tell
me
that
the harbors are just abandoning boats against state

laws
and
statutes.


Where are they abandoning the boat? They are putting it

in
temporary
storage, and since they now own the boat, they can let

all
the
salvagers
they want at the boat.

Oh, NOW they are putting it in "temporary storage, huh?

Please,
I've
asked before, give the number of the marina that is doing

this.
I'd
like to talk to them. I'll give a full report, including

the
name
of
the person I talk to, so anyone here can see for themselves
that
you
are full of ****. YOU said that they run the boat up on the
beach
and
let the salvager's have at it. That is a damned LIE. IF

they
did
that,
they'd have more lawsuits, criminal charges, and

environmental
citations than they knew what to do with.


Why would they have criminal charges. They own the beach,

they
own
the boat
(mechanics lien), and what is enviromentally pooched?

Jeez, you are dumb, Bill. It doesn't matter who owns the beach.
That
doesn't give them a right to dump boats there.
There are very strict environmental laws dealing with illegal
dumping
in CA waters, regardless of whether it actually causes
environmental
harm. I suggest you read your own state's laws before

commenting
further, your looking like an ass. Now, let me check my email

and
see
if Pillar point has gotten back to me yet. If so, I'll post it
here, so
you can, again, be wrong.


Temporary beaching is allowed you doofus. And the beaching is

only
temporary. The beach is normally nice a clean of boats. Lots of
bird poop,
etc. Damn you show you show your stupidity. And where are you
registered
as a PE Kevin?

Uh, you dumb ass, again, I've shown you SEVERAL laws where

abandoning
watercraft in CA waters is illegal. Please show me ONE where it IS
legal. Can you? Now, "temporary beaching" is fine. BUT, temporary
beaching isn't what you've suggested that the marinas there are

doing.
YOU said that they beach the boats, and let the salvagers have at

them.
That, is not temporary. Again, show me a law that says that it is
legal. You can't, because there is none. I've shown, and found

pages
and pages of CA law that says that it is ILLEGAL. The proof is in

the
pudding, as they say, and I've shown ALL of the proof here in this
argument, and you've shown NONE. I'm awaiting Pillar Point's

official
word on the matter, and I'll post it here, so we'll KNOW who's

stupid.
Speaking of stupid, I'm not Kevin, and I'm registered in several
states.


Registered as a sex offender does not count. As I stated they let

the
salvagers at the boat and the remains are then sent to the landfill.

Where
is that abandoning the boat on the beach. Abandoning


Still haven't heard back from Pillar Point. My bet is that they don't
think it's a serious email, that someone could actually believe that
they do such a thing that violates several laws.


They probably heard of the you "king of newsgroup idiots"


It would certain come across in his writing :-)







basskisser January 13th 05 08:41 PM


Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message

ups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message

oups.com...

Harry Krause wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:


I don't know about Kevin, but *I* am registered

in
several
states.
And, yes, I DO say it's illegal to abandon

boats in
CA.
And
it
is.
If
you think that when they beach a boat and let

the
salvagers
have at
it,
that it's not abandonment, then you are just

dumb.
Now,
IF
they
are
doing as you said, they are also violating your

states
environmental
laws. So, you lied, you know it.


California Bile isn't overly concerned about
environmental
issues.

True, but, regardless, there are such laws. And he

can't
tell
me
that
the harbors are just abandoning boats against state

laws
and
statutes.


Where are they abandoning the boat? They are putting

it
in
temporary
storage, and since they now own the boat, they can

let
all
the
salvagers
they want at the boat.

Oh, NOW they are putting it in "temporary storage, huh?

Please,
I've
asked before, give the number of the marina that is

doing
this.
I'd
like to talk to them. I'll give a full report,

including
the
name
of
the person I talk to, so anyone here can see for

themselves
that
you
are full of ****. YOU said that they run the boat up on

the
beach
and
let the salvager's have at it. That is a damned LIE. IF

they
did
that,
they'd have more lawsuits, criminal charges, and

environmental
citations than they knew what to do with.


Why would they have criminal charges. They own the

beach,
they
own
the boat
(mechanics lien), and what is enviromentally pooched?

Jeez, you are dumb, Bill. It doesn't matter who owns the

beach.
That
doesn't give them a right to dump boats there.
There are very strict environmental laws dealing with

illegal
dumping
in CA waters, regardless of whether it actually causes
environmental
harm. I suggest you read your own state's laws before

commenting
further, your looking like an ass. Now, let me check my

email
and
see
if Pillar point has gotten back to me yet. If so, I'll post

it
here, so
you can, again, be wrong.


Temporary beaching is allowed you doofus. And the beaching

is
only
temporary. The beach is normally nice a clean of boats.

Lots of
bird poop,
etc. Damn you show you show your stupidity. And where are

you
registered
as a PE Kevin?

Uh, you dumb ass, again, I've shown you SEVERAL laws where

abandoning
watercraft in CA waters is illegal. Please show me ONE where it

IS
legal. Can you? Now, "temporary beaching" is fine. BUT,

temporary
beaching isn't what you've suggested that the marinas there are

doing.
YOU said that they beach the boats, and let the salvagers have

at
them.
That, is not temporary. Again, show me a law that says that it

is
legal. You can't, because there is none. I've shown, and found

pages
and pages of CA law that says that it is ILLEGAL. The proof is

in
the
pudding, as they say, and I've shown ALL of the proof here in

this
argument, and you've shown NONE. I'm awaiting Pillar Point's

official
word on the matter, and I'll post it here, so we'll KNOW who's

stupid.
Speaking of stupid, I'm not Kevin, and I'm registered in

several
states.


Registered as a sex offender does not count. As I stated they

let
the
salvagers at the boat and the remains are then sent to the

landfill.
Where
is that abandoning the boat on the beach. Abandoning


Still haven't heard back from Pillar Point. My bet is that they

don't
think it's a serious email, that someone could actually believe

that
they do such a thing that violates several laws.


They probably heard of the you "king of newsgroup idiots"


Bill, you're the idiot. YOU are the ONLY ONE HERE who thinks that a
marina dumps boats on the beach for the salvagers, and that it isn't
against several state laws to do so.


basskisser January 13th 05 08:42 PM


P.Fritz wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message

oups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message

ups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message

oups.com...

Harry Krause wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:


I don't know about Kevin, but *I* am

registered in
several
states.
And, yes, I DO say it's illegal to abandon

boats in
CA.
And
it
is.
If
you think that when they beach a boat and let

the
salvagers
have at
it,
that it's not abandonment, then you are just

dumb.
Now,
IF
they
are
doing as you said, they are also violating

your
states
environmental
laws. So, you lied, you know it.


California Bile isn't overly concerned about
environmental
issues.

True, but, regardless, there are such laws. And he
can't
tell
me
that
the harbors are just abandoning boats against

state
laws
and
statutes.


Where are they abandoning the boat? They are

putting it
in
temporary
storage, and since they now own the boat, they can

let
all
the
salvagers
they want at the boat.

Oh, NOW they are putting it in "temporary storage,

huh?
Please,
I've
asked before, give the number of the marina that is

doing
this.
I'd
like to talk to them. I'll give a full report,

including
the
name
of
the person I talk to, so anyone here can see for

themselves
that
you
are full of ****. YOU said that they run the boat up

on the
beach
and
let the salvager's have at it. That is a damned LIE.

IF
they
did
that,
they'd have more lawsuits, criminal charges, and
environmental
citations than they knew what to do with.


Why would they have criminal charges. They own the

beach,
they
own
the boat
(mechanics lien), and what is enviromentally pooched?

Jeez, you are dumb, Bill. It doesn't matter who owns the

beach.
That
doesn't give them a right to dump boats there.
There are very strict environmental laws dealing with

illegal
dumping
in CA waters, regardless of whether it actually causes
environmental
harm. I suggest you read your own state's laws before
commenting
further, your looking like an ass. Now, let me check my

email
and
see
if Pillar point has gotten back to me yet. If so, I'll

post it
here, so
you can, again, be wrong.


Temporary beaching is allowed you doofus. And the beaching

is
only
temporary. The beach is normally nice a clean of boats.

Lots of
bird poop,
etc. Damn you show you show your stupidity. And where are

you
registered
as a PE Kevin?

Uh, you dumb ass, again, I've shown you SEVERAL laws where
abandoning
watercraft in CA waters is illegal. Please show me ONE where

it IS
legal. Can you? Now, "temporary beaching" is fine. BUT,

temporary
beaching isn't what you've suggested that the marinas there

are
doing.
YOU said that they beach the boats, and let the salvagers have

at
them.
That, is not temporary. Again, show me a law that says that it

is
legal. You can't, because there is none. I've shown, and found
pages
and pages of CA law that says that it is ILLEGAL. The proof is

in
the
pudding, as they say, and I've shown ALL of the proof here in

this
argument, and you've shown NONE. I'm awaiting Pillar Point's
official
word on the matter, and I'll post it here, so we'll KNOW who's
stupid.
Speaking of stupid, I'm not Kevin, and I'm registered in

several
states.


Registered as a sex offender does not count. As I stated they

let
the
salvagers at the boat and the remains are then sent to the

landfill.
Where
is that abandoning the boat on the beach. Abandoning

Still haven't heard back from Pillar Point. My bet is that they

don't
think it's a serious email, that someone could actually believe

that
they do such a thing that violates several laws.


They probably heard of the you "king of newsgroup idiots"


It would certain come across in his writing :-)

Well, Paul, would YOU like to show me where it's legal in CA to dispose
of boats by beaching them, and let the salvagers take what they want?
Hmmm? I know, you won't answer the question, because you can't. Ask
your wife to. Oh, forgot, she likes men, not children, so she's gone.


basskisser January 18th 05 01:30 PM


P.Fritz wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:
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Calif Bill wrote:

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Calif Bill wrote:



Where is the boat abandoned?

Have another brewski, Bile.



When you going to get those orphan children in South East

Asia?
You

still

in NAMBLA?


Keep on drinking, Bile.


I guess I hit close to home.



Well, since you are a drunk and are mentally impaired, you're
entitled
to your alcohol-induced guesses.

Have another brewski, Bile.

Get your meds renewed Harry. You are going off the deep end.

You
been
pushed over the edge, by the election results? And as to

drinking, I
think
it was before Christmas when I last drank, except for some nice

wine
with
Christmas and New Years dinner. You should not drink, Harry,

when on
medicine. The alcohol acts as a solvent and increases the

dosage you
receive.

Hey, Bill, have you found any resources for me detailing how to

legally
abandon watercraft in CA waters?


Hey, doofus. Show me where the harbor district abandons the boat.


Cripes.....asslicker is dumber than a tree stump.

Think so, huh? Well, here is the email that I sent, with their reply:


Hello, a person on a newsgroup has said that when someone doesn't pay
their slip fees, or abandon a boat in your marina, that you simply tow
it up on the beach and let the salvagers have at it. His exact words
a

"At Pillar Point Harbor in Calif, the put the abandoned and dead beat
slip
paying boats in "The Box". They tow them up on the beach and let the
salvagers go at them."

Is this true? I have looked up California law concerning abandoning
boats in this manner, and have found out that it is illegal. It is also
a violation of CA environmental law, so I find it hard to believe that
you practice this illegally, if at all. I'd like to know that if you
do, how is it done legally? I will be awaiting your reply, thank you.

Sir,
Please rest assured that this practice is not done at Pillar Point, or
any other marina operated by San Mateo county. Our county prides itself
on being in the forefront of environmental regulation, and to do
anything such as you have described above would, as you have stated,
not only be illegal under California criminal statutes, but also under
the strict guidelines of our state's environmental laws. There is an
area that is commonly referred to as the box. This area is where we put
watercraft to hold, that are grossly delinquent in fees. This area is
not, however, a salvage area. We hold the watercraft in this area until
either payments have been satisfied, or liens are in place. In the
worst case, if liens are intact, we dispose of the boats in a legal
manner. This usually involves selling either at auction, or to licensed
salvagers. Thank you for your interest.



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