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LaBomba182 wrote:
Subject: albin 28 flush deck From: "NOYB" "fishless" wrote in message news:c19eeecd30ea8f5cf638edb87c834566@localhost. talkaboutboats.com... I just purchased a 28 te new. Anyone have fuel consumption with the 315 yanmar? I had a patient tell me that his Albin 28 cruised at 18 knots with a burn rate of 13 gph. I found those numbers hard to believe, but amazing if true. Let us know. A new 28 True World Marine (planning hull) with a 315 Yanmar on a jack shaft does 30 mph cruise while burning approx. 6-7 gph. And 40 mph top end burning 10 - 11 gph Capt. Bill Come on Capt. you????, not Chucky of course but ...... :-) Approx 6-7 gph??? is this one of those Chucky help make a sale "approx" gals?? or a standard US gal??? Best you get some references where Yanmar themselves have publicly made claims anything like that, they haven't I can assure you they'd get well sued, probably by Cat or Cummins etc:-). The best you'll find are vague "testimonials" about this & that, never any proper numbers. The boating magazines print this type of nonsense all the time, everyone knows they're inexperienced simpletons, but it's well out of order for the manufacturers to even allow such false marketing BS to remain uncorrected. These engines are a converted Toyota Landcruiser diesel (hey great news for Landcruiser drivers!!! you too need never buy fuel again:-)) & if run continuously above about 250HP for more than a very short time will drop their fuel consumption to nil:-) so you can forget all about the mystical "top end burning" in gph terms for even 1 straight hour:-). However even if 11gph were true it raises a much more difficult question, fore it would mean these engines are only making about 180-190 HP flat out!!!; sad really when they're marketed as 315 hp diesels. If that engine really is using say 7 USgal/hr it's probably not making much more than 120HP so you now have a diesel powered 28 ft boat, what 4-5 ton???, "cruising" at 30 mph on 120HP??? & the same boat doing 40 mph on 190HP???? Curiouser & curiouser said Alice. Be skeptical of the magazines they're the source of much false information & those that then repeat it unquestioningly are only demonstrating their own lack of experience. Needless to say we even have one here who continues to write it even though we've offered to run the numbers, so it follows it's just marketing BS from BS'ers. Oops almost forgot, have a merry christmas or hanukkah if that suits you:-) K |
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Subject: albin 28 flush deck
From: "K. Smith" LaBomba182 wrote: Subject: albin 28 flush deck From: "NOYB" "fishless" wrote in message news:c19eeecd30ea8f5cf638edb87c834566@localhost .talkaboutboats.com... I just purchased a 28 te new. Anyone have fuel consumption with the 315 yanmar? I had a patient tell me that his Albin 28 cruised at 18 knots with a burn rate of 13 gph. I found those numbers hard to believe, but amazing if true. Let us know. A new 28 True World Marine (planning hull) with a 315 Yanmar on a jack shaft does 30 mph cruise while burning approx. 6-7 gph. And 40 mph top end burning 10 - 11 gph Capt. Bill Come on Capt. you????, not Chucky of course but ...... :-) Approx 6-7 gph??? is this one of those Chucky help make a sale "approx" gals?? or a standard US gal??? Best you get some references where Yanmar themselves have publicly made claims anything like that, they haven't I can assure you they'd get well sued, probably by Cat or Cummins etc:-). The best you'll find are vague "testimonials" about this & that, never any proper numbers. I just looked at the Powerboat Reports Sept. 2004 issue where they tested one and they saw 22 knot cruise at 7 gph. And a max speed of just a tick over 30 knots and max gph of 12. The boating magazines print this type of nonsense all the time, everyone knows they're inexperienced simpletons, but it's well out of order for the manufacturers to even allow such false marketing BS to remain uncorrected. Yeah, yeah and they're all published on a grass knoll. These engines are a converted Toyota Landcruiser diesel (hey great news for Landcruiser drivers!!! you too need never buy fuel again:-)) & if run continuously above about 250HP for more than a very short time will drop their fuel consumption to nil:-) so you can forget all about the mystical "top end burning" in gph terms for even 1 straight hour:-). However even if 11gph were true it raises a much more difficult question, fore it would mean these engines are only making about 180-190 HP flat out!!!; sad really when they're marketed as 315 hp diesels. If that engine really is using say 7 USgal/hr it's probably not making much more than 120HP so you now have a diesel powered 28 ft boat, what 4-5 ton???, 6800 lb dry. "cruising" at 30 mph on 120HP??? & the same boat doing 40 mph on 190HP???? Curiouser & curiouser said Alice. Be skeptical of the magazines they're the source of much false information & those that then repeat it unquestioningly are only demonstrating their own lack of experience. Needless to say we even have one here who continues to write it even though we've offered to run the numbers, so it follows it's just marketing BS from BS'ers. Instead of running the numbers, get one and hook up a flow meter and get back to us. Oops almost forgot, have a merry christmas or hanukkah if that suits you:-) I celabrate Festivus, thanks. And by the way, were you perhaps molested as a young girl by a boat broker/ OEM sales rep. selling magazine subscriptions by any chance? Capt. Bill |
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LaBomba182 wrote:
Subject: albin 28 flush deck From: "K. Smith" LaBomba182 wrote: Subject: albin 28 flush deck From: "NOYB" "fishless" wrote in message news:c19eeecd30ea8f5cf638edb87c834566@localhos t.talkaboutboats.com... I just purchased a 28 te new. Anyone have fuel consumption with the 315 yanmar? I had a patient tell me that his Albin 28 cruised at 18 knots with a burn rate of 13 gph. I found those numbers hard to believe, but amazing if true. Let us know. A new 28 True World Marine (planning hull) with a 315 Yanmar on a jack shaft does 30 mph cruise while burning approx. 6-7 gph. And 40 mph top end burning 10 - 11 gph Capt. Bill Come on Capt. you????, not Chucky of course but ...... :-) Approx 6-7 gph??? is this one of those Chucky help make a sale "approx" gals?? or a standard US gal??? Best you get some references where Yanmar themselves have publicly made claims anything like that, they haven't I can assure you they'd get well sued, probably by Cat or Cummins etc:-). The best you'll find are vague "testimonials" about this & that, never any proper numbers. I just looked at the Powerboat Reports Sept. 2004 issue where they tested one and they saw 22 knot cruise at 7 gph. And a max speed of just a tick over 30 knots and max gph of 12. Well then post the link, I'll be most interested to see how they verified the fuel consumption, particularly as they're saying they "know" at cruise & max. Absolute crap they're just parroting what the seller says & the seller is .... well selling. "If" these engines really do make 315HP (very, very, skeptical) then at "max" that engine will be drinking a min of 18 usgal/hr but more likely well over 20 gal/hr, if not then all the big diesel manufacturers have been wasting their time & huge amounts of money trying to get lower fuel usage, when all along the engine in their weekend bush basher was getting better than their millions spent on improvements of 1 or 2 grams per HP per hour. The boating magazines print this type of nonsense all the time, everyone knows they're inexperienced simpletons, but it's well out of order for the manufacturers to even allow such false marketing BS to remain uncorrected. Yeah, yeah and they're all published on a grass knoll. Gee you have the front or ego or both:-) to put "capt." in your sig yet you fall for this marketing nonsense?? You better get some real boating experience or are you just another Krause style magazine dreamer???:-) These engines are a converted Toyota Landcruiser diesel (hey great news for Landcruiser drivers!!! you too need never buy fuel again:-)) & if run continuously above about 250HP for more than a very short time will drop their fuel consumption to nil:-) so you can forget all about the mystical "top end burning" in gph terms for even 1 straight hour:-). However even if 11gph were true it raises a much more difficult question, fore it would mean these engines are only making about 180-190 HP flat out!!!; sad really when they're marketed as 315 hp diesels. If that engine really is using say 7 USgal/hr it's probably not making much more than 120HP so you now have a diesel powered 28 ft boat, what 4-5 ton???, 6800 lb dry. Again are you really going to accept this nonsense?? 5600lbs dry which is still optimistic but with no anything, no engines drives liquids etc etc etc yet you swallow this??? 4 tonnes is probably about right or you can just magazine dream on. Again with trailer boats (this is) how hard is it for them (magazines) to take it to any public weighbridge & have the numbers actually checked in the condition it's so called "tested"?? well that wouldn't be good for sales would it???:-) "cruising" at 30 mph on 120HP??? & the same boat doing 40 mph on 190HP???? Curiouser & curiouser said Alice. Be skeptical of the magazines they're the source of much false information & those that then repeat it unquestioningly are only demonstrating their own lack of experience. Needless to say we even have one here who continues to write it even though we've offered to run the numbers, so it follows it's just marketing BS from BS'ers. Instead of running the numbers, get one and hook up a flow meter and get back to us. It's certainly possible we do it all the time with diesels, but it's not a simple thing to do & that's why your dumbo magazines think they can get away with just parroting what the seller spruiks, as I said post the link as to how they checked the fuel usage at the various speeds as they claim???? I can assure you it's bunkum of the first order, but what is more serious is you are so inexperienced you actually believe it!!:-) Oops almost forgot, have a merry christmas or hanukkah if that suits you:-) I celabrate Festivus, thanks. And by the way, were you perhaps molested as a young girl by a boat broker/ OEM sales rep. selling magazine subscriptions by any chance? "Capt" I love it!!! capt gullible I bet you sit in the armchair with your magazines wearing a capt. cap:-) K Capt. Bill |
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