Thank goodness for simple labels, right, tooth-boy? You'd be in a persistent
vegetative state without them. At least now, you can create a facade of
consciousness.

On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 17:48:50 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote:

Thank goodness for simple labels, right, tooth-boy? You'd be in a
persistent vegetative state without them. At least now, you can create a
facade of consciousness.

The header got me thinking. It must be my memory, but I can't think of
one *true* democracy that was ever overthrown from the left. I can think
of many, many, democracies overthrown from the right. The left has been
known to overthrow kings, dictators, and other tyrants, but democracies?
Help me out, there has to be at least one.

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 17:48:50 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote:

Thank goodness for simple labels, right, tooth-boy? You'd be in a
persistent vegetative state without them. At least now, you can create a
facade of consciousness.

The header got me thinking. It must be my memory, but I can't think of
one *true* democracy that was ever overthrown from the left. I can think
of many, many, democracies overthrown from the right. The left has been
known to overthrow kings, dictators, and other tyrants, but democracies?
Help me out, there has to be at least one.

I'm not aware of any, either. However, on the other extreme, conservatives,
represented by the paramilitary, the military and the police, are doing a
pretty good job of undermining what little government is left in Colombia.
They've been doing it since the 1940s, at least.

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 17:48:50 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote:

Thank goodness for simple labels, right, tooth-boy? You'd be in a
persistent vegetative state without them. At least now, you can create a
facade of consciousness.

The header got me thinking. It must be my memory, but I can't think of
one *true* democracy that was ever overthrown from the left. I can think
of many, many, democracies overthrown from the right. The left has been
known to overthrow kings, dictators, and other tyrants, but democracies?
Help me out, there has to be at least one.

Wow, this could get deep. I'm not sure there are *any* "true democracies".
It all depends upon how you define a democracy. For instance, the U.S.
isn't a true "democracy"...rather, it's a republic. Democracy is "rule by
the majority"...and depending upon the will of majority, it's possible to
*not* have property rights, freedom of expression, and freedom of religion.

Can you point to any "true" democracies? If so, then perhaps I can point to
an example where the democracy was overthrown by the right...and you can
point to an example where it was overthrown by the left.

NOYB wrote:

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 17:48:50 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote:

Thank goodness for simple labels, right, tooth-boy? You'd be in a
persistent vegetative state without them. At least now, you can create a
facade of consciousness.

The header got me thinking. It must be my memory, but I can't think of
one *true* democracy that was ever overthrown from the left. I can think
of many, many, democracies overthrown from the right. The left has been
known to overthrow kings, dictators, and other tyrants, but democracies?
Help me out, there has to be at least one.

Wow, this could get deep. I'm not sure there are *any* "true democracies".
It all depends upon how you define a democracy. For instance, the U.S.
isn't a true "democracy"...rather, it's a republic. Democracy is "rule by
the majority"...and depending upon the will of majority, it's possible to
*not* have property rights, freedom of expression, and freedom of religion.

Can you point to any "true" democracies? If so, then perhaps I can point to
an example where the democracy was overthrown by the right...and you can
point to an example where it was overthrown by the left.


Po' Toothless...reduced to splitting teeth here.


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NOYB wrote:

Can you point to any "true" democracies? If so, then perhaps I can point to
an example where the democracy was overthrown by the right...and you can
point to an example where it was overthrown by the left.

If you need to play semantic games to crawl away from such a stupid
statement then there is little game left for you to play.

Face it, NOYB, you are a neofascist neophyte looking for a mob to help
you feel good about your need to be a bully. No semantic twist will
change your character.

Rick

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NOYB wrote:

Can you point to any "true" democracies? If so, then perhaps I can
point to
an example where the democracy was overthrown by the right...and you can
point to an example where it was overthrown by the left.

If you need to play semantic games to crawl away from such a stupid
statement then there is little game left for you to play.

Face it, NOYB, you are a neofascist neophyte looking for a mob to help
you feel good about your need to be a bully. No semantic twist will
change your character.

OK Rick. Name a "true" democracy that was overthrown by the right. Can't?
I didn't think so.

On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 19:42:54 +0000, NOYB wrote:


Can you point to any "true" democracies? If so, then perhaps I can point
to an example where the democracy was overthrown by the right...and you
can point to an example where it was overthrown by the left.

I see your point, but I wasn't trying to hide behind "true". Perhaps
"free elections" would have been a better term. The old Soviet Union had
elections, but I think we could all agree that it wasn't a democracy.
Many/most dictators have elections, but not democracy. It's just that I
really can't think of a democracy that has been overthrown by the left.
Now, on the right, you have heard of the attempted coup against Roosevelt?

http://www.eclectica.org/v1n1/reviews/wharton_plot.html

thunder wrote:

On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 17:48:50 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote:

Thank goodness for simple labels, right, tooth-boy? You'd be in a
persistent vegetative state without them. At least now, you can create a
facade of consciousness.

The header got me thinking. It must be my memory, but I can't think of
one *true* democracy that was ever overthrown from the left. I can think
of many, many, democracies overthrown from the right. The left has been
known to overthrow kings, dictators, and other tyrants, but democracies?
Help me out, there has to be at least one.


For some time, years, I have been posting that the threat to our
democracy comes from the conservatives. Turns out I was right.

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thunder wrote:

On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 17:48:50 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote:

Thank goodness for simple labels, right, tooth-boy? You'd be in a
persistent vegetative state without them. At least now, you can create
a
facade of consciousness.

The header got me thinking. It must be my memory, but I can't think of
one *true* democracy that was ever overthrown from the left. I can
think
of many, many, democracies overthrown from the right. The left has been
known to overthrow kings, dictators, and other tyrants, but democracies?
Help me out, there has to be at least one.


For some time, years, I have been posting that the threat to our
democracy comes from the conservatives. Turns out I was right.

I can't remember the last time you were right about anything.