"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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And that's another whole subject. I have a wireless router and I keep
the firewall off because of the XP firewall and a specific firewall to
the computer - but...

There are several wireless computers surrounding the homestead in
other homes and I have been infected several times via that route. I
now keep the wireless portion of the router off until I need it.

Even then, I keep a Spy Eye running in the background to make sure
nobody is piggy backing on me.

Later,

Tom


You know what is strange? I've been using computers and accessing the
Internet for years. I've never used any kind of virus protection software.
I tried Spyware once because it was free and I was curious, but it screwed
up the computer, so I uninstalled it. Other than the WiFi thing I mentioned
and one other worm that I got on this computer last winter that I easily
removed, I've never had any problems with getting a serious virus or other
malady.

My wife, on the other hand, has been through several computers and many,
many crashes, burns, virus infections, worms etc. It seems every other
month her computer needs to be disinfected. She uses Norton, keeps it
updated but still whatever computer she has, it eventually gets messed up.

We were talking about it one day and determined that I use my computer very
differently than she. Hers is on a cable connection and she leaves it
connected 24 hours a day. I always disconnect after every use. Also,
unlike she, when using Internet Explorer and Outlook Express, I never leave
the former open when checking mail or the newsgroups on OE. The only time I
open Internet Explorer is to quickly read news, search for something or do
whatever I need it for, then immediately close it.

I don't know enough about computers to be 100% convinced that my habits make
a difference, but I know I don't seem to have the problems she and others
have, even when they are using current anti-virus software.

Eisboch

On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 08:39:06 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .


And that's another whole subject. I have a wireless router and I keep
the firewall off because of the XP firewall and a specific firewall to
the computer - but...

There are several wireless computers surrounding the homestead in
other homes and I have been infected several times via that route. I
now keep the wireless portion of the router off until I need it.

Even then, I keep a Spy Eye running in the background to make sure
nobody is piggy backing on me.

Later,

Tom


You know what is strange? I've been using computers and accessing the
Internet for years. I've never used any kind of virus protection software.
I tried Spyware once because it was free and I was curious, but it screwed
up the computer, so I uninstalled it. Other than the WiFi thing I mentioned
and one other worm that I got on this computer last winter that I easily
removed, I've never had any problems with getting a serious virus or other
malady.

My wife, on the other hand, has been through several computers and many,
many crashes, burns, virus infections, worms etc. It seems every other
month her computer needs to be disinfected. She uses Norton, keeps it
updated but still whatever computer she has, it eventually gets messed up.

We were talking about it one day and determined that I use my computer very
differently than she. Hers is on a cable connection and she leaves it
connected 24 hours a day. I always disconnect after every use. Also,
unlike she, when using Internet Explorer and Outlook Express, I never leave
the former open when checking mail or the newsgroups on OE. The only time I
open Internet Explorer is to quickly read news, search for something or do
whatever I need it for, then immediately close it.

I don't know enough about computers to be 100% convinced that my habits make
a difference, but I know I don't seem to have the problems she and others
have, even when they are using current anti-virus software.

You know, as long as I've been associated with these beasts, I've
never used your regimen in terms of shutting off OE and IE in concert
with each activity. I'm going to start doing that.

I usually shut the computer off when I'm away for a while but I rarely
shut off the modem or put it into standby when I leave the computer
running. I think I should start making that a habit also.

On another subject, what kind of Scout do you have? I really like
those boats.

Later,

Tom

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On another subject, what kind of Scout do you have? I really like
those boats.

Later,

Tom


It's the 20' "Sportfish" model, powered by a Yamaha 200 hp 4-stoke. It's
set up with a T-top, rocket launchers, several gunnel rod holders, live
bait well - all the fishing type stuff.

I bought it at the end of the 2003 season up in MA because the dealer was
vacating his location and had to sell off the inventory, so I got a good
deal (I think). I towed it down here to Florida last fall and have not used
it here yet. It still has 4 hours on the engine.

Hopefully, after I repair all the hurricane damage I'll have some time to
put some hours on it.

Eisboch

Eisboch

On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 09:18:45 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .



On another subject, what kind of Scout do you have? I really like
those boats.

It's the 20' "Sportfish" model, powered by a Yamaha 200 hp 4-stoke. It's
set up with a T-top, rocket launchers, several gunnel rod holders, live
bait well - all the fishing type stuff.

Very nice. Similar to my Ranger if I'm not mistaken.

Hmmmmm - I feel a need to visit Florida after Christmas. :)

I bought it at the end of the 2003 season up in MA because the dealer was
vacating his location and had to sell off the inventory, so I got a good
deal (I think). I towed it down here to Florida last fall and have not used
it here yet. It still has 4 hours on the engine.

Hopefully, after I repair all the hurricane damage I'll have some time to
put some hours on it.

A lot of damage?

Later,

Tom

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Two weeks ago, my wife said her computer was slowing again, and she was
plagued with pop-ups. The offender turned out to be a nice little
routine that Yahoo offers to install for you to make your searching
easier or more fun. It's called Target. Has nothing to do with the
stores. Once I got it off her machine, the problems stopped.



I suppose it eventually had to happen - the commercialization of the
Internet. I refuse to get so wrapped up in protecting a computer from
hackers and various forms of infection that it becomes a daily chore. If
the day comes that I can't use it - I won't.

Eisboch

Well

You need to run several programs to catch it all but there is enough good
freeware you dont have to buy anything.
Ad Aware seems very thorough to me
You need to check for new config files everytime you run it.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 07:46:53 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 06:58:36 -0500, "scott downey"
wrote:



Everyone should run Ad Aware and SpyBot to remove all the cruddy
spyware coming in off the net.
My daughter installed a screen saver and there was so much attached
spyware her computer could barely function


I got news for you - Adaware and SpyBot didn't get half of the spyware
on that computer.

You need to add Pest Patrol and No Adaware and forget about SpyBot.

SpyBot is useless.

Uh... care to expand on this theory of yours?

I use SpyBot from time to time in conjunction with an anti-adware program
and they both seem to find what they are supposed to find.

What's so terrific about the two you are recommending?


I bought into the SpyBot/Adaware freeware concept and relied on them
to keep things out of the computer. Based on the first results, I
even sent the guy who developed SpyBot $25 I was that impressed.

Then I noticed that something was amiss - the computer started acting
strange again - popups and the spam started to escalate. Then I got
whacked in an email trojan on a .jpg that Norton missed (which is a
whole 'nother story) and was passed by a member of a lure maker/rod
building mailing list I'm a member of. Couldn't get rid of it.

SpyBot never caught it and neither did Adaware. Norton would catch it
on a scan, but couldn't delete or quarantine it. I started looking
around researching the trojan and came across Pest Patrol. Bought it
and WOW - what a difference!! 168 - count'em - 1 6 8 bugs, trojans,
spys and such - a bunch of them bugs that SpyBot was supposed to
eliminate.

Since then, run side by side with SpyBot, Pest Patrol has caught much
more than SpyBot - most of it in the form of cookies which execute
spys.

It's the same with Noadaware - much better performance and it actually
does what it says it does.

Like I said, I wouldn't give you ten cents for SpyBot - lesson
learned.

Later,

Tom


Well, I just ran AdAware, which found one "possible" browser hijack
routine...I let it ride. Then I downloaded and launched No Adware, which
found nothing. I'll fool aroud with No Adware for a while. It is faster
than AdAware.

On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 09:23:43 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news:1102341159.88ea84eb27b7dd159f5524a3aeb2213c@ teranews...

Two weeks ago, my wife said her computer was slowing again, and she was
plagued with pop-ups. The offender turned out to be a nice little
routine that Yahoo offers to install for you to make your searching
easier or more fun. It's called Target. Has nothing to do with the
stores. Once I got it off her machine, the problems stopped.



I suppose it eventually had to happen - the commercialization of the
Internet. I refuse to get so wrapped up in protecting a computer from
hackers and various forms of infection that it becomes a daily chore. If
the day comes that I can't use it - I won't.

I think you would be surprised at how much it has intruded into the
everyday functions of life.

It's simply amazing.

Later,

Tom - who is killing time waiting to head out for three DR
appointments - one of which is my daughter-in-law who I am taking out
to lunch. :)

Later,

Tom

On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 09:26:40 -0500, "scott downey"
wrote:

Well

You need to run several programs to catch it all but there is enough good
freeware you dont have to buy anything.

No there isn't.

Ad Aware seems very thorough to me

Not by half.

You need to check for new config files everytime you run it.

What - you think I'm a newbie?

~~ sheesh ~~

Later,

Tom

On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 09:38:38 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 09:26:40 -0500, "scott downey"
wrote:

Well

You need to run several programs to catch it all but there is enough good
freeware you dont have to buy anything.

No there isn't.

Ad Aware seems very thorough to me

Not by half.

You need to check for new config files everytime you run it.

What - you think I'm a newbie?

~~ sheesh ~~

Not at your age.

That's true enough. :)

Later,

Tom

You have to tell XP to not be the default CD writer. I had the same
problem using Auto-Grabber.