"Denis Roy" wrote in message news:0p5sd.405749$Pl.344444@pd7tw1no...
I just picked up a canoe that came with a 2.2 HP merc. Would this be
powerful enough to use as a troller / kicker for my 17 1/2' fiberglass sea
ray? I was hoping it could serve to get us home if the main motor ever
quits.

I think for that size boat a 6 HP is the best compromise. of course
dont be thinking you will be steering this home against lots of wind
and waves.

Just for trolling it will be just fine (as long as the shaft fits)

Matt

"Denis Roy" wrote in message
news:0p5sd.405749$Pl.344444@pd7tw1no...
I just picked up a canoe that came with a 2.2 HP merc. Would this be
powerful enough to use as a troller / kicker for my 17 1/2' fiberglass sea
ray? I was hoping it could serve to get us home if the main motor ever
quits.

It might if home is close and water/wind is calm. A 4hp kicker (80% more
hp) once brought my 17.5' Alumacraft (probably 50% weight of your boat)
back approx 5 miles against a slight current and 10 mph winds. It took a
looooooong time; almost 4 hours.

On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 13:42:43 -0500, "tbd" wrote:

"Denis Roy" wrote in message
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I just picked up a canoe that came with a 2.2 HP merc. Would this be
powerful enough to use as a troller / kicker for my 17 1/2' fiberglass sea
ray? I was hoping it could serve to get us home if the main motor ever
quits.

It might if home is close and water/wind is calm. A 4hp kicker (80% more
hp) once brought my 17.5' Alumacraft (probably 50% weight of your boat)
back approx 5 miles against a slight current and 10 mph winds. It took a
looooooong time; almost 4 hours.

On the other hand, I've taken my Ranger up the Thames River (CT)
against the tide with my Motor Guide 67# thrust trolling motor. Took
a LOOOOOONG time then too. :)

Later,

Tom

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On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 13:42:43 -0500, "tbd" wrote:

"Denis Roy" wrote in message
news:0p5sd.405749$Pl.344444@pd7tw1no...
I just picked up a canoe that came with a 2.2 HP merc. Would this
be
powerful enough to use as a troller / kicker for my 17 1/2'
fiberglass sea
ray? I was hoping it could serve to get us home if the main motor
ever
quits.

It might if home is close and water/wind is calm. A 4hp kicker (80%
more
hp) once brought my 17.5' Alumacraft (probably 50% weight of your
boat)
back approx 5 miles against a slight current and 10 mph winds. It
took a
looooooong time; almost 4 hours.

On the other hand, I've taken my Ranger up the Thames River (CT)
against the tide with my Motor Guide 67# thrust trolling motor. Took
a LOOOOOONG time then too. :)

Later,

Tom

I have a 9.9 Merc kicker on my Lund 1775, and I wouldn't want to depend
on running it at 1/4 power to get home any distance. Does maybe 2 mph
tops in calm water at that kind of throttle. (by gps)

del cecchi

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On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 03:08:50 GMT, "Calif Bill"
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On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 20:30:43 -0500, Wayne.B
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On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 00:26:13 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Going up hills.....BBBBAAAAWWWAAAHHHAAAAA!!!!!!!!

Hills..

======================

I've seen plenty of hills off the Rhode Island and Maine coasts. They
also move. I think you would agree that a 2.2 hp is no match for a
moving hill.

Sorry - I keep forgetting that my unfortunate brand of humor doesn't
seem to work on this august body of great and not so great personages.

Sometimes I just can't help myself. :)

Remember the Quicksilver surf contest is the "men who ride mountains".

I've actually seen some of those "mountains" in Guam of all places.

And, without getting into the great "wave height" debate, I have some
pictures around here my Dad's XO took on convoy duty in the North
Atlantic during WWII when he commanded a DE.

Them's some BIG waves. I used to love to hear the stories he and his
shipmates used to tell about asking their Group Commander for
submariner designation because they spent more time under and through
the waves than over them. :)

Hey, it was funny to a kid. :)

Later,

Tom

My roommate at school was on the Bonne Homme Richard in a Typhoon in the
South Pacific. The one that bent the front of the deck 90 degrees down.
He said they could have sandwiches and coffee, and they had green water
rolling down the deck. He said they felt for the DE's and destroyers, as
they spend more time under water than above. And I guess they had no food
during the storm.

In my Navy days, we once spent 3 days on the edge of a typhoon. You
basically don't want much food, maybe a piece of fruit once in a while. You
couldn't stay in your bunk so you went to your normal duty station, grabbed
a couple life jackets for pillows and curled up on the deck where you could
brace yourself. You didn't go for and aft on the main deck. Lines were
rigged on the 2nd deck to hang on to, to go for and aft and you would judge
the waves and run. This was on a DDE where you couldn't go for and aft
inside.
Destroyers just naturally go under one wave and over the next. Due to the
lenght I guess.
Gordon
BTW, Used to have a friend who always was seasick for the first 3 or 4 days
at sea. He would stand watch holding a bucket or at least keeping it very
close. Talk about not eating!
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On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 03:08:50 GMT, "Calif Bill"
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
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On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 20:30:43 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 00:26:13 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Going up hills.....BBBBAAAAWWWAAAHHHAAAAA!!!!!!!!

Hills..

======================

I've seen plenty of hills off the Rhode Island and Maine coasts.
They
also move. I think you would agree that a 2.2 hp is no match for a
moving hill.

Sorry - I keep forgetting that my unfortunate brand of humor doesn't
seem to work on this august body of great and not so great
personages.

Sometimes I just can't help myself. :)

Remember the Quicksilver surf contest is the "men who ride mountains".

I've actually seen some of those "mountains" in Guam of all places.

And, without getting into the great "wave height" debate, I have some
pictures around here my Dad's XO took on convoy duty in the North
Atlantic during WWII when he commanded a DE.

Them's some BIG waves. I used to love to hear the stories he and his
shipmates used to tell about asking their Group Commander for
submariner designation because they spent more time under and through
the waves than over them. :)

Hey, it was funny to a kid. :)

Later,

Tom

My roommate at school was on the Bonne Homme Richard in a Typhoon in the
South Pacific. The one that bent the front of the deck 90 degrees down.
He said they could have sandwiches and coffee, and they had green water
rolling down the deck. He said they felt for the DE's and destroyers, as
they spend more time under water than above. And I guess they had no food
during the storm.

On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 00:30:21 GMT, "Gordon" wrote:

In my Navy days, we once spent 3 days on the edge of a typhoon. You
basically don't want much food, maybe a piece of fruit once in a while. You
couldn't stay in your bunk so you went to your normal duty station, grabbed
a couple life jackets for pillows and curled up on the deck where you could
brace yourself. You didn't go for and aft on the main deck. Lines were
rigged on the 2nd deck to hang on to, to go for and aft and you would judge
the waves and run. This was on a DDE where you couldn't go for and aft
inside.
Destroyers just naturally go under one wave and over the next. Due to the
lenght I guess.
Gordon
BTW, Used to have a friend who always was seasick for the first 3 or 4 days
at sea. He would stand watch holding a bucket or at least keeping it very
close. Talk about not eating!

I was on two floats - one to the Med and one in the South Pacific.
Both times, I was never seasick, although a lot of my company was.

Based on my own experience, I'm not sure which is worse - the long
slow swells or the relative violence of short period waves.

Later,

Tom

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On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 00:30:21 GMT, "Gordon" wrote:

In my Navy days, we once spent 3 days on the edge of a typhoon. You
basically don't want much food, maybe a piece of fruit once in a while.
You
couldn't stay in your bunk so you went to your normal duty station,
grabbed
a couple life jackets for pillows and curled up on the deck where you
could
brace yourself. You didn't go for and aft on the main deck. Lines were
rigged on the 2nd deck to hang on to, to go for and aft and you would
judge
the waves and run. This was on a DDE where you couldn't go for and aft
inside.
Destroyers just naturally go under one wave and over the next. Due to
the
lenght I guess.
Gordon
BTW, Used to have a friend who always was seasick for the first 3 or 4
days
at sea. He would stand watch holding a bucket or at least keeping it very
close. Talk about not eating!

I was on two floats - one to the Med and one in the South Pacific.
Both times, I was never seasick, although a lot of my company was.

Based on my own experience, I'm not sure which is worse - the long
slow swells or the relative violence of short period waves.

Later,

Tom

That is why I joined the air force. Both no typhoons in big ships or little
ships and you get to die clean.

On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 07:19:16 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 00:30:21 GMT, "Gordon" wrote:

In my Navy days, we once spent 3 days on the edge of a typhoon. You
basically don't want much food, maybe a piece of fruit once in a while.
You
couldn't stay in your bunk so you went to your normal duty station,
grabbed
a couple life jackets for pillows and curled up on the deck where you
could
brace yourself. You didn't go for and aft on the main deck. Lines were
rigged on the 2nd deck to hang on to, to go for and aft and you would
judge
the waves and run. This was on a DDE where you couldn't go for and aft
inside.
Destroyers just naturally go under one wave and over the next. Due to
the
lenght I guess.
Gordon
BTW, Used to have a friend who always was seasick for the first 3 or 4
days
at sea. He would stand watch holding a bucket or at least keeping it very
close. Talk about not eating!

I was on two floats - one to the Med and one in the South Pacific.
Both times, I was never seasick, although a lot of my company was.

Based on my own experience, I'm not sure which is worse - the long
slow swells or the relative violence of short period waves.

That is why I joined the air force. Both no typhoons in big ships or little
ships and you get to die clean.

I worked with some APES during my tour - I have to admit they were the
cleanest bunch of perimeter patrol types I ever worked with. :)

Later,

Tom

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On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 07:19:16 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
message
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On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 00:30:21 GMT, "Gordon" wrote:

In my Navy days, we once spent 3 days on the edge of a typhoon. You
basically don't want much food, maybe a piece of fruit once in a
while.
You
couldn't stay in your bunk so you went to your normal duty station,
grabbed
a couple life jackets for pillows and curled up on the deck where you
could
brace yourself. You didn't go for and aft on the main deck. Lines were
rigged on the 2nd deck to hang on to, to go for and aft and you would
judge
the waves and run. This was on a DDE where you couldn't go for and aft
inside.
Destroyers just naturally go under one wave and over the next. Due to
the
lenght I guess.
Gordon
BTW, Used to have a friend who always was seasick for the first 3 or
4
days
at sea. He would stand watch holding a bucket or at least keeping it
very
close. Talk about not eating!

I was on two floats - one to the Med and one in the South Pacific.
Both times, I was never seasick, although a lot of my company was.

Based on my own experience, I'm not sure which is worse - the long
slow swells or the relative violence of short period waves.

That is why I joined the air force. Both no typhoons in big ships or
little
ships and you get to die clean.

I worked with some APES during my tour - I have to admit they were the
cleanest bunch of perimeter patrol types I ever worked with. :)

Later,

Tom

Actually I only flew on AF planes when hopping rides. Set in the nice,
clean airconditioned electronics shop at Travis AFB for 3 years fixing
radars off transport planes. We were an airlift wing. As opposed to my
brother who did 2 tours at China Beach as a SeeBee building facilities.