"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 20:30:43 -0500, Wayne.B
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On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 00:26:13 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
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Going up hills.....BBBBAAAAWWWAAAHHHAAAAA!!!!!!!!

Hills..

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I've seen plenty of hills off the Rhode Island and Maine coasts. They
also move. I think you would agree that a 2.2 hp is no match for a
moving hill.

Sorry - I keep forgetting that my unfortunate brand of humor doesn't
seem to work on this august body of great and not so great personages.

Sometimes I just can't help myself. :)

Later,

Tom

Remember the Quicksilver surf contest is the "men who ride mountains".
Bill

The thread went:"snip..Subject: 2.2 hp big enough as a kicker?
I've seen plenty of hills off the Rhode Island and Maine coasts. They
also move. I think you would agree that a 2.2 hp is no match for a
moving hill..."

Moving hills can be a problem, but a source of merriment at my marina (San
Diego) is watching outbound sailboats being slowly driven back in stern first
as their 9.9 outboard is running at 12000rpm in fwd!
Better too much engine then too little..you can always throttle back.
Mike

On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 03:08:50 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 20:30:43 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 00:26:13 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Going up hills.....BBBBAAAAWWWAAAHHHAAAAA!!!!!!!!

Hills..

======================

I've seen plenty of hills off the Rhode Island and Maine coasts. They
also move. I think you would agree that a 2.2 hp is no match for a
moving hill.

Sorry - I keep forgetting that my unfortunate brand of humor doesn't
seem to work on this august body of great and not so great personages.

Sometimes I just can't help myself. :)

Remember the Quicksilver surf contest is the "men who ride mountains".

I've actually seen some of those "mountains" in Guam of all places.

And, without getting into the great "wave height" debate, I have some
pictures around here my Dad's XO took on convoy duty in the North
Atlantic during WWII when he commanded a DE.

Them's some BIG waves. I used to love to hear the stories he and his
shipmates used to tell about asking their Group Commander for
submariner designation because they spent more time under and through
the waves than over them. :)

Hey, it was funny to a kid. :)

Later,

Tom

On 04 Dec 2004 04:25:29 GMT, (CaptMP) wrote:

The thread went:"snip..Subject: 2.2 hp big enough as a kicker?
I've seen plenty of hills off the Rhode Island and Maine coasts. They
also move. I think you would agree that a 2.2 hp is no match for a
moving hill..."

Moving hills can be a problem, but a source of merriment at my marina (San
Diego) is watching outbound sailboats being slowly driven back in stern first
as their 9.9 outboard is running at 12000rpm in fwd!
Better too much engine then too little..you can always throttle back.

LOL!!!

I see that all the time myself. Usually, I'll take the Contender out
and give them a hand getting back through the breakwater into the
Marina. :)

Later,

Tom

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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And, without getting into the great "wave height" debate, I have some
pictures around here my Dad's XO took on convoy duty in the North
Atlantic during WWII when he commanded a DE.

Them's some BIG waves. I used to love to hear the stories he and his
shipmates used to tell about asking their Group Commander for
submariner designation because they spent more time under and through
the waves than over them. :)

Hey, it was funny to a kid. :)

Later,

Tom



Since we're telling sea tales ....

Back in prehistoric times when I was stationed on the USS Van Voorhis
(DE-1028), we took a 56 degree roll while testing a new sonar array. This
was somewhere off the east coast and the waves were the result of a tropical
storm about 100 miles from us. I was told that the ship was designed for a
max of 64 degrees before it was retrofitted with a top heavy DASH hanger.

Made the Newport RI newspapers.

Eisboch

On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 06:51:14 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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And, without getting into the great "wave height" debate, I have some
pictures around here my Dad's XO took on convoy duty in the North
Atlantic during WWII when he commanded a DE.

Them's some BIG waves. I used to love to hear the stories he and his
shipmates used to tell about asking their Group Commander for
submariner designation because they spent more time under and through
the waves than over them. :)

Hey, it was funny to a kid. :)

Since we're telling sea tales ....

Back in prehistoric times when I was stationed on the USS Van Voorhis
(DE-1028), we took a 56 degree roll while testing a new sonar array. This
was somewhere off the east coast and the waves were the result of a tropical
storm about 100 miles from us. I was told that the ship was designed for a
max of 64 degrees before it was retrofitted with a top heavy DASH hanger.

Made the Newport RI newspapers.

I remember reading something about that - it made the national news
too didn't it?

By the by, you mentioned yesterday about reading for lawn mowing
relief.

Ever read Terry Pratchett? I highly recommend any of his books if you
are just in for simple amusement. There are around 27 in the series
and they are divided into several subseries.

I would suggest "Wyrd Sisters" from the Witch series, "Guards, Guards"
from the Night Watch series and "Mort" from the Death series.

You might also want to look for a stand alone Pratchett book "Good
Omens" which was written with Neil Gaiman. This is a great send up of
society in general and is hysterical - I've read it several times and
it's just as funny as it was the first time.

Later,

Tom - Who really needs to get back to work and finish some cabinet
doors.

I just picked up a canoe that came with a 2.2 HP merc. Would this be
powerful enough to use as a troller / kicker for my 17 1/2' fiberglass
sea ray? I was hoping it could serve to get us home if the main motor
ever quits.
--
Denis Roy
D. Roy Woodcraft
www.ideasinwood.co
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I"ve been using a 4 HP Evinrude as a kicker on my 21 footer for some 12
years. Its OK in slack water and I tried using it to return to the
marina (about 2 miles) just to see if it would do the job. It got me
in, but there was no wind or current. It works fine for trolling, tho,
and I noted a speed of 4 knots according to the Loran.

Thanks to all who have replied.

The place we like to go fishing is only a few miles from homebase. If ever
the kicker were needed it would be to push us downstream. The area of
concern is a short area of whitewater where you need good power to steer the
current. It might be somewhat suicidal with this kicker. I was just trying
to decide if it was worth making new holes in the fiberglass to try it.

--
Denis Roy
D. Roy Woodcraft
www.ideasinwood.com
"N.L. Eckert" wrote in message
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I just picked up a canoe that came with a 2.2 HP merc. Would this be
powerful enough to use as a troller / kicker for my 17 1/2' fiberglass
sea ray? I was hoping it could serve to get us home if the main motor
ever quits.
--
Denis Roy
D. Roy Woodcraft
www.ideasinwood.co
==================================
I"ve been using a 4 HP Evinrude as a kicker on my 21 footer for some 12
years. Its OK in slack water and I tried using it to return to the
marina (about 2 miles) just to see if it would do the job. It got me
in, but there was no wind or current. It works fine for trolling, tho,
and I noted a speed of 4 knots according to the Loran.

I suppose that would depend on how far away home would be.

I had a 2 horse Evinrude and found out that I could row faster. But in
calm water, if you weren't in a hurry, it would push a 14 footer quite
nicely.

The Evinrude had a very inefficient prop, maybe the Merc has a better one.

Side issue:
It is amazing to me to see someone put a 15 horse on a 25 foot sailboat,
when a 4 would push it just as fast, use less fuel, and be easier to put
away, and be much cheaper to purchase.

Jim

Denis Roy wrote:
I just picked up a canoe that came with a 2.2 HP merc. Would this be
powerful enough to use as a troller / kicker for my 17 1/2' fiberglass sea
ray? I was hoping it could serve to get us home if the main motor ever
quits.

--
Denis Roy
D. Roy Woodcraft
www.ideasinwood.com

On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 16:11:49 GMT, "Denis Roy"
wrote:

The area of
concern is a short area of whitewater where you need good power to steer the
current. It might be somewhat suicidal with this kicker. I was just trying
to decide if it was worth making new holes in the fiberglass to try it.

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I wouldn't. It's just not enough power to be really useful.