You outta try toilets in Mexico. You'd forget about Europe soon enough.

-W

"Calif Bill" wrote in message news:J9bsd.844
Free, clean restroom. Europe may be high on your list, but toilets in
Europe leave a lot to be desired! And I checked the price of a BigMac in
Sienna, Italy 2 months ago. 2.80 Euros. One of the more reasonable
places
to eat. Did not eat there, but the toilet room was nice.

On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 07:49:49 GMT, "Clams Canino"
wrote:

You outta try toilets in Mexico. You'd forget about Europe soon enough.

-W

"Calif Bill" wrote in message news:J9bsd.844
Free, clean restroom. Europe may be high on your list, but toilets in
Europe leave a lot to be desired! And I checked the price of a BigMac in
Sienna, Italy 2 months ago. 2.80 Euros. One of the more reasonable
places
to eat. Did not eat there, but the toilet room was nice.




Try Korean toilets for a real treat!

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

JohnH wrote:
On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 07:49:49 GMT, "Clams Canino"
wrote:

You outta try toilets in Mexico. You'd forget about Europe soon
enough.

-W

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:J9bsd.844
Free, clean restroom. Europe may be high on your list, but
toilets in
Europe leave a lot to be desired! snip

Try Korean toilets for a real treat!

My experience in Korea was similar to Thailand and Saudi. Public
toilets were ... well ... about as bad as some here in the states.
Particularly fun in the evening as many had no lighting inside... don't
slip.

We went on a local holiday train ride over the weekend and rode in a
passenger car that was probably 50 or 60 years old. No restroom. I
was telling my b.i.l that it reminded of the train I took from Korat to
Bangkok in 1994 - only that train had restrooms. Of course if you
looked into the bowl, you saw the ties passing below.

On 7 Dec 2004 15:04:07 -0800, "Curtis CCR"
wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 07:49:49 GMT, "Clams Canino"
wrote:

You outta try toilets in Mexico. You'd forget about Europe soon
enough.

-W

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:J9bsd.844
Free, clean restroom. Europe may be high on your list, but
toilets in
Europe leave a lot to be desired! snip

Try Korean toilets for a real treat!

My experience in Korea was similar to Thailand and Saudi. Public
toilets were ... well ... about as bad as some here in the states.
Particularly fun in the evening as many had no lighting inside... don't
slip.

We went on a local holiday train ride over the weekend and rode in a
passenger car that was probably 50 or 60 years old. No restroom. I
was telling my b.i.l that it reminded of the train I took from Korat to
Bangkok in 1994 - only that train had restrooms. Of course if you
looked into the bowl, you saw the ties passing below.

Be very happy that there was no toilet. I made the mistake of entering
a toilet on a bus. The normal Korean toilet is a hole in the floor, so
the people are used to squatting - not sitting on the seat. Well, in
the bus they climbed up on the toilet and squatted. Many had very poor
aim. Enough said. (Probably way too much!)


John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

JohnH wrote:
On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 07:49:49 GMT, "Clams Canino"
wrote:

You outta try toilets in Mexico. You'd forget about Europe soon
enough.

-W

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
news:J9bsd.844
Free, clean restroom. Europe may be high on your list, but
toilets in
Europe leave a lot to be desired! snip

Try Korean toilets for a real treat!

My experience in Korea was similar to Thailand and Saudi. Public
toilets were ... well ... about as bad as some here in the states.
Particularly fun in the evening as many had no lighting inside... don't
slip.

We went on a local holiday train ride over the weekend and rode in a
passenger car that was probably 50 or 60 years old. No restroom. I
was telling my b.i.l that it reminded of the train I took from Korat to
Bangkok in 1994 - only that train had restrooms. Of course if you
looked into the bowl, you saw the ties passing below.

Actually I think Mexico has better toilets. Italy has either holes in the
floor like Japan or no toilet seat.

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
k.net...
You outta try toilets in Mexico. You'd forget about Europe soon enough.

-W

"Calif Bill" wrote in message news:J9bsd.844
Free, clean restroom. Europe may be high on your list, but toilets in
Europe leave a lot to be desired! And I checked the price of a BigMac
in
Sienna, Italy 2 months ago. 2.80 Euros. One of the more reasonable
places
to eat. Did not eat there, but the toilet room was nice.

Actually I think Mexico has better toilets. Italy has either holes in the
floor like Japan or no toilet seat.

???????

Not true in Rome, Florence, Naples, or Milan (in my experience). Maybe I just
patronize better hotels, bars, and restaurants?? :-)

Now toilet paper, that's another matter.
On several occassions, my wife would enter a Women's restroom to find some old
gypsy woman had commandeered every roll of TP in the joint. She would gladly
reel out several inches of her hoard in exchange for a suitable tip. Very
enterprising.

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Actually I think Mexico has better toilets. Italy has either holes in
the
floor like Japan or no toilet seat.

???????

Not true in Rome, Florence, Naples, or Milan (in my experience). Maybe I
just
patronize better hotels, bars, and restaurants?? :-)

Now toilet paper, that's another matter.
On several occassions, my wife would enter a Women's restroom to find some
old
gypsy woman had commandeered every roll of TP in the joint. She would
gladly
reel out several inches of her hoard in exchange for a suitable tip. Very
enterprising.



Rome, Sorrento, Lucca, Assisi, Sienna, and Cinque Terre. Pretty much most
of the mid western italy.

Rome, Sorrento, Lucca, Assisi, Sienna, and Cinque Terre. Pretty much most
of the mid western italy.



Italian toilet seat discussion continued:

I think one would expect to find toilet seats in the Americanized hotels like
Holiday Inn, etc.

We try to stay at 2-3 star places to save some money, and get a more local
experience. Our local experience in Rome included a prowler in the hotel room
in the middle of the night, probably trying to steal
American passports, so it wasn't exactly a
premiere address. (Wife woke up, screamed, and by the time I got out of bed a
split second later the person was out the door and running down the hall like a
rabbit, empty handed).

The reason I can be completely sure we had a toilet seat is that we stayed in
that room, even after the break in, for over a week. My wife is a real trooper,
but our tenure in a room with no seat on the toilet would have been about 15
minutes, max.
Midnight prowlers she'll put up with, but no toilet seat? Out of the question.

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Rome, Sorrento, Lucca, Assisi, Sienna, and Cinque Terre. Pretty much
most
of the mid western italy.



Italian toilet seat discussion continued:

I think one would expect to find toilet seats in the Americanized hotels
like
Holiday Inn, etc.

We try to stay at 2-3 star places to save some money, and get a more local
experience. Our local experience in Rome included a prowler in the hotel
room
in the middle of the night, probably trying to steal
American passports, so it wasn't exactly a
premiere address. (Wife woke up, screamed, and by the time I got out of
bed a
split second later the person was out the door and running down the hall
like a
rabbit, empty handed).

The reason I can be completely sure we had a toilet seat is that we stayed
in
that room, even after the break in, for over a week. My wife is a real
trooper,
but our tenure in a room with no seat on the toilet would have been about
15
minutes, max.
Midnight prowlers she'll put up with, but no toilet seat? Out of the
question.



Even the 1 star hotels have toilet seats. It is all the bars, restaurants,
stores and tourist traps that do not have them, as well as train stations.