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Eisboch November 14th 04 08:51 PM

GB update
 
Looks like a done deal. Seller has accepted Mrs. E's offer.

Sea trial and survey this coming week.

Eisboch

Short Wave Sportfishing November 14th 04 09:02 PM

On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 15:51:02 -0500, Eisboch
wrote:

Looks like a done deal. Seller has accepted Mrs. E's offer.

Sea trial and survey this coming week.


YAY!!!!!

Later,

Tom

Wayne.B November 14th 04 09:39 PM

On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 15:51:02 -0500, Eisboch
wrote:

Looks like a done deal. Seller has accepted Mrs. E's offer.

Sea trial and survey this coming week.

============================================

Congratulations, now the real negotiations begin!

Would this be the "Herz Knot Yerz" by any chance?

http://tinyurl.com/5fzww

Eisboch November 14th 04 11:08 PM

Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 15:51:02 -0500, Eisboch
wrote:


Looks like a done deal. Seller has accepted Mrs. E's offer.

Sea trial and survey this coming week.


============================================

Congratulations, now the real negotiations begin!

Would this be the "Herz Knot Yerz" by any chance?

http://tinyurl.com/5fzww



That's the one.

I like your work on the name also ...
I'll have to make a list of these suggestions and give it to her.
I kinda like the existing name also ... but, it's up to her.

Eisboch

Don White November 14th 04 11:35 PM


"Eisboch" wrote in message
...


That's the one.



That's quite a boat.
His & Hers boats.......no life like it!



Eisboch November 14th 04 11:43 PM

Don White wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...


That's the one.




That's quite a boat.
His & Hers boats.......no life like it!



You must not be married Don.

It's Ours and Hers.

Eisboch

Short Wave Sportfishing November 15th 04 12:21 AM

On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 18:43:07 -0500, Eisboch
wrote:

Don White wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...


That's the one.


That's quite a boat.
His & Hers boats.......no life like it!


You must not be married Don.

It's Ours and Hers.


As the discussion started the other day surrounding wifey's retirement
- "we can sell the Contender and purchase".....

I was going to ask "Who is this we you speak of?" but thought better
of it. :)

All the best,

Tom
--------------

"What the hell's the deal with this newsgroup...
is there a computer terminal in the day room of
some looney bin somewhere?"

Bilgeman - circa 2004

Wayne.B November 15th 04 12:24 AM

On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 18:43:07 -0500, Eisboch
wrote:
Don White wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

That's the one.

That's quite a boat.
His & Hers boats.......no life like it!


You must not be married Don.

It's Ours and Hers.

Eisboch

=================================

Interestingly enough, we ended up with our GB49 because my wife felt
comfortable with it. It does have a nice homey feel in many respects.

It's also interesting how close the 36 and 49 are in appearance:

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/hoonos...lbum?.dir=4f58

It's not "ours" whenever it needs cleaning and maintenance however.

Then it's mine.


Short Wave Sportfishing November 15th 04 12:25 AM

On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 23:35:38 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

That's the one.


That's quite a boat.
His & Hers boats.......no life like it!


They are well on their way to achieving a goal of one boat for every
day of the week.

The possibilities boggle the mind. :)

Later,

Tom


Harry Krause November 15th 04 12:26 AM

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 23:35:38 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

That's the one.


That's quite a boat.
His & Hers boats.......no life like it!


They are well on their way to achieving a goal of one boat for every
day of the week.

The possibilities boggle the mind. :)

Later,

Tom



Next thing you know, Eisboch will buy a marina. Then he'll have to get
another job, to support it.

--
A passing thought:

-- Peter Cochrane - Imagine a school with children that can read or
write, but with teachers who cannot, and you have a metaphor of the
Information Age in which we live.

Short Wave Sportfishing November 15th 04 12:27 AM

On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 18:08:39 -0500, Eisboch
wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 15:51:02 -0500, Eisboch
wrote:


Looks like a done deal. Seller has accepted Mrs. E's offer.

Sea trial and survey this coming week.


============================================

Congratulations, now the real negotiations begin!

Would this be the "Herz Knot Yerz" by any chance?

http://tinyurl.com/5fzww



That's the one.


Sweet.

Just out of curiosity - does that sail deal actually work?

All the best,

Tom
--------------

"What the hell's the deal with this newsgroup...
is there a computer terminal in the day room of
some looney bin somewhere?"

Bilgeman - circa 2004

LaBomba182 November 15th 04 12:33 AM

Subject: GB update
From: Short Wave Sportfishing


Just out of curiosity - does that sail deal actually work?


I've used them.
And they make a noticable difference for the better in a beam sea.
And while they're not really made for it, I read about some folks who sailed a
32' through a bridge and into a harbor when their engine failed.
Capt. Bill

Eisboch November 15th 04 12:35 AM

Harry Krause wrote:



Next thing you know, Eisboch will buy a marina. Then he'll have to get
another job, to support it.


I am doing a good job just supporting the marina I'm in.

Eisboch

Short Wave Sportfishing November 15th 04 12:39 AM

On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:26:23 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 23:35:38 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

That's the one.

That's quite a boat.
His & Hers boats.......no life like it!


They are well on their way to achieving a goal of one boat for every
day of the week.

The possibilities boggle the mind. :)


Next thing you know, Eisboch will buy a marina. Then he'll have to get
another job, to support it.


Nah - I think they ought to buy their own Navy.

Next up - a diesel/electric Kilo class submarine.

Later,

Tom


Eisboch November 15th 04 12:43 AM

Wayne.B wrote:


=================================

Interestingly enough, we ended up with our GB49 because my wife felt
comfortable with it. It does have a nice homey feel in many respects.

It's also interesting how close the 36 and 49 are in appearance:

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/hoonos...lbum?.dir=4f58

It's not "ours" whenever it needs cleaning and maintenance however.

Then it's mine.


Wow! Beautiful. I really like the layout and the second door on the
port side. Obviously a much bigger boat. What year is it? It looks
brand new.

I also took a peek at your other pics. Your pool looks very similar to
the one at our house in Jupiter, including the screen enclosure. Our
only problem is our enclosure no longer exists. Jeanne completely
destroyed it and there is about a year waiting list to have it replaced.

Very nice location, I might add. Sometime we'll have to meet down there.

Eisboch


Short Wave Sportfishing November 15th 04 12:45 AM

On 15 Nov 2004 00:33:42 GMT, (LaBomba182) wrote:

Subject: GB update
From: Short Wave Sportfishing


Just out of curiosity - does that sail deal actually work?


I've used them.
And they make a noticable difference for the better in a beam sea.
And while they're not really made for it, I read about some folks who sailed a
32' through a bridge and into a harbor when their engine failed.


I often wondered that - now I know.

I would think that there would be a lot of leeway with something like
that.

Later,

Tom

Eisboch November 15th 04 12:53 AM

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


On 15 Nov 2004 00:33:42 GMT, (LaBomba182) wrote:


Subject: GB update
From: Short Wave Sportfishing


Just out of curiosity - does that sail deal actually work?


I've used them.
And they make a noticable difference for the better in a beam sea.
And while they're not really made for it, I read about some folks who sailed a
32' through a bridge and into a harbor when their engine failed.



I often wondered that - now I know.

I would think that there would be a lot of leeway with something like
that.

Later,

Tom


Boy, have I got a lot to learn. I thought the sail thingy was just to
confuse sailboaters.

Eisboch

Short Wave Sportfishing November 15th 04 01:16 AM

On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:53:30 -0500, Eisboch
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


On 15 Nov 2004 00:33:42 GMT, (LaBomba182) wrote:


Subject: GB update
From: Short Wave Sportfishing

Just out of curiosity - does that sail deal actually work?


I've used them.
And they make a noticable difference for the better in a beam sea.
And while they're not really made for it, I read about some folks who sailed a
32' through a bridge and into a harbor when their engine failed.



I often wondered that - now I know.

I would think that there would be a lot of leeway with something like
that.


Boy, have I got a lot to learn. I thought the sail thingy was just to
confuse sailboaters.


Or a cleverly disguised alien death ray machine!

Later,

Tom

Wayne.B November 15th 04 01:32 AM

On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:43:33 -0500, Eisboch
wrote:
Wow! Beautiful. I really like the layout and the second door on the
port side. Obviously a much bigger boat. What year is it? It looks
brand new.

====================================

Thanks. It was built in 1981, and yes, having a door on each side of
the main cabin is very convenient. The starboard cabin door is right
next to the lower helm which is very nice for single handed docking.

It had a new Awlgrip paint job on it when we bought it, and that is
holding up well. The external wood took a beating over the summer
however and I've got to get to work on that soon. We just finished
replacing one of the generators, as well as new props, bottom paint,
shafts and cutlass bearings. The next big projects are to replace the
fuel tanks, overhaul the refrigeration/freezer system, get a new SSB
radio, maybe a second radar, and get the autopilot working. The fun
never stops.

We're going to take it north next spring after I retire, and live on
it for the summer while we cruise all of our old favorites in the
north east.


JohnH November 15th 04 01:36 AM

On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:53:30 -0500, Eisboch
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


On 15 Nov 2004 00:33:42 GMT, (LaBomba182) wrote:


Subject: GB update
From: Short Wave Sportfishing

Just out of curiosity - does that sail deal actually work?


I've used them.
And they make a noticable difference for the better in a beam sea.
And while they're not really made for it, I read about some folks who sailed a
32' through a bridge and into a harbor when their engine failed.



I often wondered that - now I know.

I would think that there would be a lot of leeway with something like
that.

Later,

Tom


Boy, have I got a lot to learn. I thought the sail thingy was just to
confuse sailboaters.

Eisboch


You sure it's not there so you can have the right of way whereever you
go?

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

LaBomba182 November 15th 04 02:55 AM

Subject: GB update
From: Wayne.B


The next big projects are to replace the
fuel tanks,


Are they leaking now?

Capt. Bill

LaBomba182 November 15th 04 02:58 AM

Subject: GB update
From: Short Wave Sportfishing


I would think that there would be a lot of leeway with something like
that.


True.
But there's a lot of boat in the water with the keel and all. And the singles
have a large rudder.

Capt. Bill

LaBomba182 November 15th 04 03:00 AM

Subject: GB update
From: Eisboch


Boy, have I got a lot to learn. I thought the sail thingy was just to
confuse sailboaters.


If you want to confuse everybody, set the sail and raise the black inverted
cone. :-)

Capt. Bill



Wayne.B November 15th 04 03:21 AM

On 15 Nov 2004 02:55:46 GMT, (LaBomba182) wrote:

Are they leaking now?


========================

No but the tops are badly rusted and they would not hold air pressure
during the survey testing. With full tanks and rough conditions there
is a high probability they could leak. The good news is that with
1,000 gallon fuel capacity we usually have no reason to run with more
than half tanks. They've got to get replaced before we head north in
the spring however. There appear to be three different approaches to
tank replacement: 1) Cut holes in the side or bottom of the boat; 2)
Cut up the interior wood work of the main cabin; or 3) Build 4 smaller
tanks to replace the 2 big tanks. I'm leaning towards door #3 at the
moment.


Sunny November 15th 04 03:40 AM



Wayne.B wrote:
On 15 Nov 2004 02:55:46 GMT, (LaBomba182) wrote:


Are they leaking now?



========================

No but the tops are badly rusted and they would not hold air pressure
during the survey testing. With full tanks and rough conditions there
is a high probability they could leak. The good news is that with
1,000 gallon fuel capacity we usually have no reason to run with more
than half tanks. They've got to get replaced before we head north in
the spring however. There appear to be three different approaches to
tank replacement: 1) Cut holes in the side or bottom of the boat; 2)
Cut up the interior wood work of the main cabin; or 3) Build 4 smaller
tanks to replace the 2 big tanks. I'm leaning towards door #3 at the
moment.


No doubt - but doesn't #3 involve cutting up the old tanks in place ?
Not a fun job...

mgg November 15th 04 05:21 AM

COOL! So what's the deal, you get a girlfriend on your boat, and she gets a
boyfriend on hers? ;-)

--Mike

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
Looks like a done deal. Seller has accepted Mrs. E's offer.

Sea trial and survey this coming week.

Eisboch




K. Smith November 15th 04 09:41 AM

JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:53:30 -0500, Eisboch
wrote:


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:



On 15 Nov 2004 00:33:42 GMT, (LaBomba182) wrote:



Subject: GB update
From: Short Wave Sportfishing

Just out of curiosity - does that sail deal actually work?


I've used them.
And they make a noticable difference for the better in a beam sea.
And while they're not really made for it, I read about some folks who sailed a
32' through a bridge and into a harbor when their engine failed.


I often wondered that - now I know.

I would think that there would be a lot of leeway with something like
that.

Later,

Tom


Boy, have I got a lot to learn. I thought the sail thingy was just to
confuse sailboaters.

Eisboch



You sure it's not there so you can have the right of way whereever you
go?

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


Congrats to Mrs E, well done, hope the survey goes well.

K

Short Wave Sportfishing November 15th 04 11:20 AM

On 15 Nov 2004 02:58:06 GMT, (LaBomba182) wrote:

Subject: GB update
From: Short Wave Sportfishing


I would think that there would be a lot of leeway with something like
that.


True.
But there's a lot of boat in the water with the keel and all. And the singles
have a large rudder.


I didn't think of that - good point.

Later,

Tom

Short Wave Sportfishing November 15th 04 11:32 AM

On 15 Nov 2004 03:00:31 GMT, (LaBomba182) wrote:

Subject: GB update
From: Eisboch


Boy, have I got a lot to learn. I thought the sail thingy was just to
confuse sailboaters.


If you want to confuse everybody, set the sail and raise the black inverted
cone. :-)


~~ grin ~~

Not that anybody would know what that was anyway. "What's that - keep
the squirrels out of the rigging?" :)

Which bring up a question: Do the tow companies down your way use day
signals when towing in daylight? They don't seem to know what they
are up around here.

Later,

Tom

Dave Hall November 15th 04 03:10 PM

On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 15:51:02 -0500, Eisboch
wrote:

Looks like a done deal. Seller has accepted Mrs. E's offer.

Sea trial and survey this coming week.



Unless you live in a warm climate, taking delivery of a new (to you at
least) boat at this time of year is a little like getting your first
car when you still have 6 months to go before you turn 16.

I've done it a few times, because the deals can be better. But it's an
exercise in frustration and it's a sure fire way to make the next 6
month go by at a snail's pace.....


Dave

Charles T. Low November 16th 04 02:02 AM

Yes, Eisboch's answer on the general question of why two large cruisers
would be interesting. You can only boat (together) on one at a time, and
isn't one boat enough of a commitment?

====

Charles T. Low
www.boatdocking.com

====

"mgg" wrote in message
m...
COOL! So what's the deal...




LaBomba182 November 16th 04 03:45 AM

Subject: GB update
From: Wayne.B


No but the tops are badly rusted and they would not hold air pressure
during the survey testing.


Is it a large area that is rusted?

You can clean off and Ospho the rust and cloth and epoxy over the areas.
Saves quite a bit if money.

Capt. Bill



LaBomba182 November 16th 04 03:47 AM

Subject: GB update
From: Short Wave Sportfishing


Which bring up a question: Do the tow companies down your way use day
signals when towing in daylight?


Very, very rarely.

Capt. Bill

Short Wave Sportfishing November 16th 04 11:22 AM

On 16 Nov 2004 03:47:46 GMT, (LaBomba182) wrote:

Subject: GB update
From: Short Wave Sportfishing


Which bring up a question: Do the tow companies down your way use day
signals when towing in daylight?


Very, very rarely.


It's funny - in all the years I've been aware of this, I'll bet I've
seen day signals about....oh, five times.

And two of them was when they were dredging the Providence River last
year.

Later,

Tom

Harry Krause November 16th 04 11:27 AM

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On 16 Nov 2004 03:47:46 GMT, (LaBomba182) wrote:

Subject: GB update
From: Short Wave Sportfishing


Which bring up a question: Do the tow companies down your way use day
signals when towing in daylight?


Very, very rarely.


It's funny - in all the years I've been aware of this, I'll bet I've
seen day signals about....oh, five times.

And two of them was when they were dredging the Providence River last
year.

Later,

Tom


I don't recall ever seeing them on the ICW tows between the St. Marys
and St. Johns Rivers.




--
A passing thought:

"Be firm: one certain element in luck is genuine, solid old Teutonic
pluck." - Oliver Wendell Holmes (1809-1894), American physician and writer

Short Wave Sportfishing November 16th 04 12:10 PM

On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 06:27:19 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On 16 Nov 2004 03:47:46 GMT, (LaBomba182) wrote:

Subject: GB update
From: Short Wave Sportfishing

Which bring up a question: Do the tow companies down your way use day
signals when towing in daylight?

Very, very rarely.


It's funny - in all the years I've been aware of this, I'll bet I've
seen day signals about....oh, five times.

And two of them was when they were dredging the Providence River last
year.


I don't recall ever seeing them on the ICW tows between the St. Marys
and St. Johns Rivers.


When I was a kid, I remember seeing day signals on tugs taking coal
over to the Salem Power Plant and fuel barges under tow.

Like I said - I can't remember seeing one recently.

Later,

Tom


Wayne.B November 16th 04 12:58 PM

On 16 Nov 2004 03:45:28 GMT, (LaBomba182) wrote:

Is it a large area that is rusted?


Yes. They are big tanks and the entire tops are badly rusted. They
are almost 24 years old at this point and there is some risk of
internal rust also.

You can clean off and Ospho the rust and cloth and epoxy over the areas.
Saves quite a bit if money.


It's an interesting thought but I'm not sure if I'd trust it offshore
in a seaway. Do you know anyone who has done it successfully? If so,
how did it hold up? One of the problems is that the top of the tanks
are difficult to get to.


LaBomba182 November 16th 04 03:22 PM

Subject: GB update
From: Wayne.B


You can clean off and Ospho the rust and cloth and epoxy over the areas.
Saves quite a bit if money.


It's an interesting thought but I'm not sure if I'd trust it offshore
in a seaway. Do you know anyone who has done it successfully?


Yes.

If so,
how did it hold up?


Very well.

One of the problems is that the top of the tanks
are difficult to get to.


Yeah, where the rust is located on the tank dictates whether you can use this
method successfully on not.

There are some very good rust "encapulating" paints avalable as well. That can
be applied before the epoxy and glass.

http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?i...ORY&itemID=372

Capt. Bill

Capt. Bill












Short Wave Sportfishing November 16th 04 05:03 PM

On 16 Nov 2004 15:22:27 GMT, (LaBomba182) wrote:

Subject: GB update
From: Wayne.B


You can clean off and Ospho the rust and cloth and epoxy over the areas.
Saves quite a bit if money.


It's an interesting thought but I'm not sure if I'd trust it offshore
in a seaway. Do you know anyone who has done it successfully?


Yes.

If so,
how did it hold up?


Very well.

One of the problems is that the top of the tanks
are difficult to get to.


Yeah, where the rust is located on the tank dictates whether you can use this
method successfully on not.

There are some very good rust "encapulating" paints avalable as well. That can
be applied before the epoxy and glass.

http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?i...ORY&itemID=372

This stuff is unbelievable!!

I did the frame of my International with this stuff - simply great.

Later,

Tom


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