On 14 Nov 2004 05:02:24 GMT, (LaBomba182) wrote:

Subject: I have a crazy wife
From: Short Wave Sportfishing

Just can't see me in a Grand Banks - ain't my style. :)

Then you've never seen the GB sport fish model with 3208T CATs in it. :-)

Very rare. I think they only built 13 or so of them.
We have one in our charter fleet.

http://boat-charters.com/front.html

Take a look at "Raffles".

I'll be danged.

Nice boat. A little too nice for me. WAY too much wood. :)

My wife has a couple of years left before she retires, so I'm not
exactly sure what lay ahead in terms of boat, but I have this vague
suspicion that "we" are going to sell the Contender and get something
will a full cabin. I would also like to keep it in the 32/35 foot
category.

I've been looking at these:

http://www.topazboats.com/Site/32Express/32x.html

but I don't really want diesels.

I wonder if I could custom make one of these for three outboards?

By the way, does that boat remind anybody of the old Uniflite 28
Express?

Later,

Tom

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


I've been looking at these:

http://www.topazboats.com/Site/32Express/32x.html

but I don't really want diesels.

I wonder if I could custom make one of these for three outboards?

By the way, does that boat remind anybody of the old Uniflite 28
Express?

Later,

Tom

Are you referring to the "Salty Dog"? It does have a little resemblance
I guess. Nice looking boat. Why are you opposed to diesels?

BTW, prior to getting the Navigator, I had a 28' 1978 Uniflite Mega,
complete with blisters all over the deck.

Eisboch

On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 06:46:44 -0500, Eisboch
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


I've been looking at these:

http://www.topazboats.com/Site/32Express/32x.html

but I don't really want diesels.

I wonder if I could custom make one of these for three outboards?

By the way, does that boat remind anybody of the old Uniflite 28
Express?

Are you referring to the "Salty Dog"? It does have a little resemblance
I guess. Nice looking boat. Why are you opposed to diesels?

Well, to tell the truth I'm a little leery of vibration in a boat this
size. It would seem to me that twin diesels in a boat like this it
would be both noisy and lot's of vibration.

BTW, prior to getting the Navigator, I had a 28' 1978 Uniflite Mega,
complete with blisters all over the deck.

I saw one of those a couple of weeks ago at a yard up in Fall River.
Interesting boat.

Later,

Tom

On Sunday 14 November 2004 12:00 pm in rec.boats Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Are you referring to the "Salty Dog"? It does have a little resemblance
I guess. Nice looking boat. Why are you opposed to diesels?

Well, to tell the truth I'm a little leery of vibration in a boat this
size. It would seem to me that twin diesels in a boat like this it
would be both noisy and lot's of vibration.

Properly fitted diesel inboards should make a lot less
noise than outboards, and they should NOT vibrate unless
there is something seriously wrong such as bad mounts
or misaligned shafts.


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Chris Newport wrote:
On Sunday 14 November 2004 12:00 pm in rec.boats Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Are you referring to the "Salty Dog"? It does have a little resemblance
I guess. Nice looking boat. Why are you opposed to diesels?

Well, to tell the truth I'm a little leery of vibration in a boat this
size. It would seem to me that twin diesels in a boat like this it
would be both noisy and lot's of vibration.

Properly fitted diesel inboards should make a lot less
noise than outboards, and they should NOT vibrate unless
there is something seriously wrong such as bad mounts
or misaligned shafts.




There are many, many factors that determine whether one sort of engine
application is going to be noisier than another of similar horsespower.
I would not posit that a 200-250 hp four-cycle outboard is going to be
noisier than an inboard or I/O diesel of the same power on a similar boat.

My outboard boat has a full transom and a bracket. So do many other
outboard boats. You stick a large V-6 four stroke outboard out on that
bracket, and you have an engine that typically vibrates the boat less
than an diesel inboard or I/O and produces lower noise levels in the
cockpit.

I'd not sure I'd ever want to again own an inboard boat that doesn't
have a decent keel to protect the running gear. There's just too many
opportunities to run aground where I boat. And I sure prefer the running
gear of outboards to that of I/O's.

On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 16:12:56 +0000, Chris Newport
wrote:

On Sunday 14 November 2004 12:00 pm in rec.boats Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Are you referring to the "Salty Dog"? It does have a little resemblance
I guess. Nice looking boat. Why are you opposed to diesels?

Well, to tell the truth I'm a little leery of vibration in a boat this
size. It would seem to me that twin diesels in a boat like this it
would be both noisy and lot's of vibration.

Properly fitted diesel inboards should make a lot less
noise than outboards, and they should NOT vibrate unless
there is something seriously wrong such as bad mounts
or misaligned shafts.

There is a history here also. I much prefer outboards in most
situations, but then again, I don't have a lot of experience with
boats bigger than 25 feet other than my Contender which is my first
boat over 30 feet. I do instruction on handling, maneuvering and
docking with larger boats, but actual use, it's not a lot unless you
count that gained over 40 years ago. :)

Live long and prosper,

Tom

On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 11:37:08 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I've been looking at these:

http://www.topazboats.com/Site/32Express/32x.html

but I don't really want diesels.

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Trust me on this one, you absolutely do want diesels. In order to get
decent speed with gas engines on a boat of that type you will be
looking at a fuel burn of over 40 gph. Diesels, about half that.

Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 11:37:08 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:


I've been looking at these:

http://www.topazboats.com/Site/32Express/32x.html

but I don't really want diesels.


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Trust me on this one, you absolutely do want diesels. In order to get
decent speed with gas engines on a boat of that type you will be
looking at a fuel burn of over 40 gph. Diesels, about half that.


I forgot to follow up with Tom on that, although he seems to have a lot
more boating experience than I. The issue of vibration is boat specific
I think. The Egg Harbor I used to have had a resonant RPM while
accelerating that caused all the hatches in the cockpit to vibrate
loudly and the Cat 3126 engines were noisy, but it was not a big issue.
The Navigator sounds and feels more like a Greyhound Bus, probably due
to the extensive engine room insulation and the smaller Volvo diesels.
It is very smooth and quiet with the auto syncs on. The only time the
boat vibrates is at closed throttle idle, in neutral and with the syncs
off. Exhaust smell and "station wagon" effect is non-existent when underway.

On smaller boats I prefer 4 stroke outboard(s). On bigger boats, I am
hooked on diesel power and will never go back to gas.

It's really a matter of personal preference.

Eisboch

On Sunday 14 November 2004 1:38 pm in rec.boats Eisboch wrote:

The Egg Harbor I used to have had a resonant RPM while
accelerating that caused all the hatches in the cockpit to vibrate
loudly and the Cat 3126 engines were noisy, but it was not a big issue.

This is major design issue. Resonant vibration is almost
certain to lead to fatigue cracking and structural failure.If you found the
CATs to be noisy you almost certainly have other serious issues with
inadequade mounts and poor insulation.

Sounds like a boat to avoid at any price.

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On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 08:17:56 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 11:37:08 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I've been looking at these:

http://www.topazboats.com/Site/32Express/32x.html

but I don't really want diesels.

===============================

Trust me on this one, you absolutely do want diesels. In order to get
decent speed with gas engines on a boat of that type you will be
looking at a fuel burn of over 40 gph. Diesels, about half that.

Well, I don't have to commit as of yet. And I'm sure that once I
actually get into this market when "we" sell the Contender in a year
or so I'll be wanting a test ride, blah, blah, blah. Then again, I
can be price driven as proved with the Contender. The only reason I'm
holding back on the E-TECs is because of this "we" factor with "my"
boat. :)

I must admit that on single screw boats of this class, I've been
impressed with diesels, but to tell the truth, most of my boat diesel
experience is mostly teaching folk how to use their built-in stern
thrusters, slow speed maneuvering and general boat handling when they
upgrade from the 20 foot Trophy to the 35 foot whatever. :)

Later,

Tom