On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 17:35:20 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
.. .


I doubt that Chuck disagrees completely with the idea of meddling
PEACEFULLY
in order to create favorable political or economic situations. Every
country
on earth does that to the best of its ability. I suspect the problem is
that
people involved with the PNAC have already demonstrated that whether to
meddle peacefully or with weapons is pretty much a coin toss - a 50/50
chance of either happening. Not much different than standing in the
cleaning
products at the supermarket and picking Ajax instead of Comet because it
doesn't make much difference.

Doug, this could be true, but Chuck referred to the shaping of
circumstances as arrogant. He didn't limit the shaping to combative
shaping.

John H

Maybe Mrs Chuck shaped circumstances in such a way that he had to spend an
unwanted afternoon with a relative he's not fond of, so he expanded this
attitude to encompass world politics. I can't believe Chuck thinks EVERYONE
doesn't shape circumstances at one time or another. Even him. :-)

I think Chuck is a great guy. He is going to take my brother and I on
his boat, and they are not going to get my in a crossfire,
politically. But, he's the one that said it, not me. I didn't make it
up!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!