Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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I think they've figured out that the signs that say "Hunters Will Be
Shot on Sight" make the acreage so protected in our immediate area a
safe zone.


Around here, we don't threaten hunters. They tend to shoot themselves or
their hunting buddies. I've met perhaps 50 in the 20 years I've lived here.
But, I've only met about 4 who made me thing "That's an artist". The rest
were silly people in camo.

A few years ago, I went into the woods with a neighbor who'd been hunting on
his dad's 400 acres for many years. Pretty impressive. He spent the first
two weeks of deer season carrying no gun, just binoculars, a thermos, a
camera, and a notepad. Anytime the news reported that a hunter had killed
himself or his buddy, he'd mutter "Cool. Just got safer for me." :-)



I've never seen stats on shooting accidents involving hunters, but, of
course, I've noticed the backpage headlines in the newspaper when it
happens. It does seem to occur with some frequency, and I'm guessing it
is the result of booze, stupidity or just outright carelessness.

I just can't buy into the hunting scene. There was a bit on one of the
TV outdoor shows last night where a young kid was out with his dad,
grandad or uncle, not sure which, and they were ISO turkeys to shoot.
They enticed a huge tom into their sights about 25' away and after some
coaxing, the kid blasted the bird. I was thinking that if the kid had
been fishing, he could have had a few minutes of fun and then released
his catch.





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I think it's great. The dad/granddad/uncle taught the young boy how to get a
turkey to have for food. I have gone turkey hunting many times and it is a
real challenge. Turkeys can see in full color like a human and their sight is
50 times more sharper than ours. In other words, a turkey can see you blink
your eyes from 200 yards away!

Say what you want, but I know from experience turkey hunting is real battle of
wits and patience.

Butch Ammon

Butch Ammon wrote:
I think it's great. The dad/granddad/uncle taught the young boy how to get a
turkey to have for food.

The dad/grand-dad/uncle would better serve the kid by making sure he
knows how to read and how to otherwise prepare himself intellectually
for this unbrave new world. If you want food, you can go to Giant or
Safeware.


I have gone turkey hunting many times and it is a
real challenge. Turkeys can see in full color like a human and their sight is
50 times more sharper than ours. In other words, a turkey can see you blink
your eyes from 200 yards away!

So?



Say what you want, but I know from experience turkey hunting is real battle of
wits and patience.

Butch Ammon


You've outwitted a turkey, eh?




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Say what you want, but I know from experience turkey hunting is real battle
of
wits and patience.

Butch Ammon


You've outwitted a turkey, eh?


Not exactly.... I've been "busted", as the saying goes, way too many times.
Turkeys always seem to have this sixth sense and know where I am and they know
the range of a shotgun too. They are very smart and frustrating for hunters to
hunt.

Question: You mentioned something about food at Giant, Safeware, or even
Kroger's, Ukrop's, Food Lion, etc... How did those Butterball Turkeys get in
the supermarket? Turkey hunting just saves a trip to the store, IMHO. Please
tell me you celebrate Thanksgiving and eat a turkey with your family.

Butch Ammon

Butch Ammon wrote:

Say what you want, but I know from experience turkey hunting is real battle
of
wits and patience.

Butch Ammon


You've outwitted a turkey, eh?


Not exactly.... I've been "busted", as the saying goes, way too many times.
Turkeys always seem to have this sixth sense and know where I am and they know
the range of a shotgun too. They are very smart and frustrating for hunters to
hunt.

Question: You mentioned something about food at Giant, Safeware, or even
Kroger's, Ukrop's, Food Lion, etc... How did those Butterball Turkeys get in
the supermarket? Turkey hunting just saves a trip to the store, IMHO. Please
tell me you celebrate Thanksgiving and eat a turkey with your family.

Butch Ammon

They are delivered in a truck, Butch.

I buy my Thanksgiving turkey at Giant. It's usually a loss-leader item.
I got a 20-pound, Grade A, U.S. Government inspected fresh turkey for
about 90 cents a pound, cleaned and ready to stuff.

It was delicious.

How long did it take you to clean the turkey you didn't catch? And how
do you know it was disease-free?

h.



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I've raised a couple turkeys for food and it's more of a PITA than it's
worth. It was only tolerable because I did it along side the show ducks. But
turkeys get into more trouble than ducks - LOL.

That said, were I to see a huge tom, I'd most likely blast it too. I *like*
turkey for dinner. That said, it sounds like more trouble than it's worth.
If
the damn things are that savvy in the wild - it's easier to catch one at the
store.

And I paid .60 a pound for my loss leaders over the holidays.

-W (had turkey last night - the shrink wrapped kind)



"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Butch Ammon wrote:

Say what you want, but I know from experience turkey hunting is real
battle
of
wits and patience.

Butch Ammon


You've outwitted a turkey, eh?


Not exactly.... I've been "busted", as the saying goes, way too many
times.
Turkeys always seem to have this sixth sense and know where I am and
they know
the range of a shotgun too. They are very smart and frustrating for
hunters to
hunt.

Question: You mentioned something about food at Giant, Safeware, or
even
Kroger's, Ukrop's, Food Lion, etc... How did those Butterball Turkeys
get in
the supermarket? Turkey hunting just saves a trip to the store, IMHO.
Please
tell me you celebrate Thanksgiving and eat a turkey with your family.

Butch Ammon

They are delivered in a truck, Butch.

I buy my Thanksgiving turkey at Giant. It's usually a loss-leader item.
I got a 20-pound, Grade A, U.S. Government inspected fresh turkey for
about 90 cents a pound, cleaned and ready to stuff.

It was delicious.

How long did it take you to clean the turkey you didn't catch? And how
do you know it was disease-free?

h.



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At least it lets the kid know where meat comes from. As to turkey prices.
At Thanksgiving, Safeway had up to a 16# turkey for $4.99. About 31 cents a
pound.
Bill

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
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I've raised a couple turkeys for food and it's more of a PITA than it's
worth. It was only tolerable because I did it along side the show ducks.
But
turkeys get into more trouble than ducks - LOL.

That said, were I to see a huge tom, I'd most likely blast it too. I
*like*
turkey for dinner. That said, it sounds like more trouble than it's worth.
If
the damn things are that savvy in the wild - it's easier to catch one at
the
store.

And I paid .60 a pound for my loss leaders over the holidays.

-W (had turkey last night - the shrink wrapped kind)



"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Butch Ammon wrote:

Say what you want, but I know from experience turkey hunting is real
battle
of
wits and patience.

Butch Ammon


You've outwitted a turkey, eh?


Not exactly.... I've been "busted", as the saying goes, way too many
times.
Turkeys always seem to have this sixth sense and know where I am and
they know
the range of a shotgun too. They are very smart and frustrating for
hunters to
hunt.

Question: You mentioned something about food at Giant, Safeware, or
even
Kroger's, Ukrop's, Food Lion, etc... How did those Butterball Turkeys
get in
the supermarket? Turkey hunting just saves a trip to the store, IMHO.
Please
tell me you celebrate Thanksgiving and eat a turkey with your family.

Butch Ammon

They are delivered in a truck, Butch.

I buy my Thanksgiving turkey at Giant. It's usually a loss-leader item.
I got a 20-pound, Grade A, U.S. Government inspected fresh turkey for
about 90 cents a pound, cleaned and ready to stuff.

It was delicious.

How long did it take you to clean the turkey you didn't catch? And how
do you know it was disease-free?

h.



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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Butch Ammon wrote:
I think it's great. The dad/granddad/uncle taught the young boy how to
get a
turkey to have for food.

The dad/grand-dad/uncle would better serve the kid by making sure he
knows how to read and how to otherwise prepare himself intellectually
for this unbrave new world. If you want food, you can go to Giant or
Safeware.

.....and get a turkey pumped full of antibiotics, a turkey that for reasons
nobody understands, has been bred and fed to produce a huge chunk of dried
out white meat. And, when they're killed, it's done in a way that's no more
or less humane than a hunted bird. I got my turkey in November from a local
farm. I asked the guy how they were killed. He said "You don't wanna know,
and we do it the best way possible".


I have gone turkey hunting many times and it is a
real challenge. Turkeys can see in full color like a human and their
sight is
50 times more sharper than ours. In other words, a turkey can see you
blink
your eyes from 200 yards away!

So?

So, he just deflated the kneejerk nonsense about how the odds are stacked in
the hunter's favor when turkey hunting.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


I've never seen stats on shooting accidents involving hunters, but, of
course, I've noticed the backpage headlines in the newspaper when it
happens. It does seem to occur with some frequency, and I'm guessing it
is the result of booze, stupidity or just outright carelessness.

According to my friend, "don't climb a tree with your gun loaded" is one of
the most often ignored rules. A lot of guns handed down from grandpa (and
probably some newer ones) won't pass the "drop test".


I just can't buy into the hunting scene. There was a bit on one of the
TV outdoor shows last night where a young kid was out with his dad,
grandad or uncle, not sure which, and they were ISO turkeys to shoot.
They enticed a huge tom into their sights about 25' away and after some
coaxing, the kid blasted the bird. I was thinking that if the kid had
been fishing, he could have had a few minutes of fun and then released
his catch.

A) They ate it.
B) It's better than anything you buy in the store.
C) The ones you buy in the store (believe it or not) were alive before they
were killed.

I'd like to mount a few trophy hunters on the wall, but people who hunt
responsibly and eat what they get? What's the problem with that?