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Eisboch November 12th 04 08:57 AM

LaBomba182 wrote:
Subject: Flexiteek followup
From: Eisboch



I met with the Vice President of Operations at our marina who is an
authorized installer of Flexiteek. He had already measured the cockpit
area on my boat and had a preliminary cost estimate.



I was quoted $40/square foot uninstalled and $70 installed at the Lauderdale
show?
How does that compare with your quote?

Capt. Bil


Slightly higher - mine comes out to about $77 a square foot installed,
based on the preliminary estimate. The marina is going to prepare and
deliver a final quote before the work begins. I am looking at about
$7500 for the cockpit and gunnel areas.

Eisboch

LaBomba182 November 12th 04 12:58 PM

Subject: Flexiteek followup
From: Harry Krause


I was quoted $40/square foot uninstalled and $70 installed at the

Lauderdale
show?
How does that compare with your quote?

Capt. Bil

$40 a square foot for the materials?

What a rip. Are you sure?


Yes. Positive.
And compared to $100+ per square foot for new teak it doesn't sound so bad.

Capt. Bill

LaBomba182 November 12th 04 12:59 PM

Subject: Flexiteek followup
From: Eisboch


Slightly higher - mine comes out to about $77 a square foot installed,
based on the preliminary estimate. The marina is going to prepare and
deliver a final quote before the work begins. I am looking at about
$7500 for the cockpit and gunnel areas.


Does that include removing the old teak decking? Or does your boat just have
gelcoated decks?

Capt. Bill

Eisboch November 12th 04 01:06 PM

LaBomba182 wrote:
Subject: Flexiteek followup
From: Eisboch



Slightly higher - mine comes out to about $77 a square foot installed,
based on the preliminary estimate. The marina is going to prepare and
deliver a final quote before the work begins. I am looking at about
$7500 for the cockpit and gunnel areas.



Does that include removing the old teak decking? Or does your boat just have
gelcoated decks?

Capt. Bill


Just gelcoated non skid. The purpose of the Flexiteek is to reduce the
amount of reflected solar energy during the peak summer sun, plus add a
little warmth to a very white boat. I've been advised that the deck may
be hot to stand on in bare feet, but as is, the cockpit can become
uncomfortable to sit in when the sun is high. I used to use
indoor/outdoor carpets from Home Depot and it cuts down on the sunburns,
but it collects all kinds of dirt between the deck and the carpet.

Eisboch

Eisboch November 12th 04 01:16 PM

Harry Krause wrote:
LaBomba182 wrote:

Subject: Flexiteek followup
From: Harry Krause


I was quoted $40/square foot uninstalled and $70 installed at the

Lauderdale

show?
How does that compare with your quote?

Capt. Bil

$40 a square foot for the materials?

What a rip. Are you sure?


Yes. Positive.
And compared to $100+ per square foot for new teak it doesn't sound so bad.

Capt. Bill



Well, I suppose it is worth what people are willing to pay, but $40 a
square foot for PVC plastic seems over the top.


Harry, my understanding is that there are all kinds of PVC formulations,
designed for specific environmental application requirements. I agree,
it's pricey, but it's less expensive than real teak planking and is
virtually maintenance free.

Eisboch

Eisboch November 12th 04 01:19 PM

Harry Krause wrote:
LaBomba182 wrote:

Subject: Flexiteek followup
From: Eisboch


Slightly higher - mine comes out to about $77 a square foot installed,
based on the preliminary estimate. The marina is going to prepare and
deliver a final quote before the work begins. I am looking at about
$7500 for the cockpit and gunnel areas.


Does that include removing the old teak decking? Or does your boat just have
gelcoated decks?

Capt. Bill




I'm sorry...but $30+ a foot to lay vinyl sheet goods? Are they using
off-shift plastic surgeons?

I had my living, dining roon and hallway done in top-of-the-line Bruce
oak strip flooring for $6.00 a square foot, installed. My wife's
bathroom is floored in Italian marble, which was about $21.00 a square
foot, installed.

I'm not poking fun at you fellas...I've been taken to the cleaners
myself many times in connection with boat stuff...

Wow!


You hit the magic nail with the hammer Harry. This is not a house. It's
a boat. Marine application, so double the price. But, that's what it is.

Eisboch

Eisboch November 12th 04 01:24 PM

Harry Krause wrote:



I'm sorry...but $30+ a foot to lay vinyl sheet goods? Are they using
off-shift plastic surgeons?

I had my living, dining roon and hallway done in top-of-the-line Bruce
oak strip flooring for $6.00 a square foot, installed. My wife's
bathroom is floored in Italian marble, which was about $21.00 a square
foot, installed.

I'm not poking fun at you fellas...I've been taken to the cleaners
myself many times in connection with boat stuff...

Wow!


BTW, I am not defending my decision - hell, it' my boat, but as I
mentioned before, the technique of application is as important as the
qualities of the product. There's a little artistic capability required
for a good looking installation. I have an engine room access hatch in
the cockpit plus fuel fills and drains. When they install this stuff
there is a bit of detailed trim design that goes into the work.

Eisboch

Short Wave Sportfishing November 12th 04 01:31 PM

On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 08:24:57 -0500, Eisboch
wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

I'm sorry...but $30+ a foot to lay vinyl sheet goods? Are they using
off-shift plastic surgeons?

I had my living, dining roon and hallway done in top-of-the-line Bruce
oak strip flooring for $6.00 a square foot, installed. My wife's
bathroom is floored in Italian marble, which was about $21.00 a square
foot, installed.

I'm not poking fun at you fellas...I've been taken to the cleaners
myself many times in connection with boat stuff...

Wow!


BTW, I am not defending my decision - hell, it' my boat, but as I
mentioned before, the technique of application is as important as the
qualities of the product. There's a little artistic capability required
for a good looking installation. I have an engine room access hatch in
the cockpit plus fuel fills and drains. When they install this stuff
there is a bit of detailed trim design that goes into the work.


Would you believe the T-top on my Contender cost less than the labor
to install it?

Later,

Tom

LaBomba182 November 12th 04 10:09 PM

Subject: Flexiteek followup
From: Harry Krause


I'm sorry...but $30+ a foot to lay vinyl sheet goods? Are they using
off-shift plastic surgeons?


It's a boat Harry, and you know what B.O.A.T. stands for, right? :-)

Capt. Bill

LaBomba182 November 12th 04 10:10 PM

Subject: Flexiteek followup
From: Harry Krause


nstalled by guys using sheet goods cutting
knives and I presume waterproof contact cement of some sort.


Troweled on epoxy, as I recall.

Capt. Bill


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