Winterize, Frist time Fogging, need help specifics....
 

I am winterizing my boat (94 chaparral 350MAG 5.7L) for the first time
myself. I have a few specific questions regarding the fogging. How long
should i be spraying the fogging can into the Carb before it stalls out? I
haven't found any specific ariticles or guides on details of fogging. Also
is there any tips/pointers for doing this that i should be aware of, due to
the fact its my first time?

Thanks! ! !

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 21:22:10 -0500, "Matt"
wrote:
I am winterizing my boat (94 chaparral 350MAG 5.7L) for the first time
myself. I have a few specific questions regarding the fogging. How long
should i be spraying the fogging can into the Carb before it stalls out? I
haven't found any specific ariticles or guides on details of fogging. Also
is there any tips/pointers for doing this that i should be aware of, due to
the fact its my first time?

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Spray it in long enough that the engine begins to stumble and you are
getting some exhaust smoke. If it hasn't stalled by then, just shut
it down.

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 21:22:10 -0500, "Matt"
wrote:

I am winterizing my boat (94 chaparral 350MAG 5.7L) for the first time
myself. I have a few specific questions regarding the fogging. How long
should i be spraying the fogging can into the Carb before it stalls out? I
haven't found any specific ariticles or guides on details of fogging. Also
is there any tips/pointers for doing this that i should be aware of, due to
the fact its my first time?

Keep spraying into the carb until you get heavy exhaust smoke, then
shut it down.

Later,

Tom

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:43:13 -0600, "bowgus"
wrote:

Good luck stalling it ... same suggestion as the others, spray till it
smokes and shut it down. This year I tried something different. My engine's
carburated ... I installed a fuel shutoff earlier in the year ... so to
winterize, I shut off the fuel and ran the engine until it ran out of fuel
so the carb would be dry. I then removed all the spark plugs and sprayed the
oil directly into the cylinders, cranked the engine over (with spark
disabled) and sprayed again. Now, this won't fog the valves but it does
guarantee there's no fuel left in the carb ... opinions?

I have never drained a carb dry. What I normally do, is over treat
the fuel for winter with Sta-bil (not by much, maybe 25%), put a
little extra 2 cycle oil in the mix and run the lawnmower, trimmer,
etc for a few minutes to get the fuel into the carburetor. I do much
the same for my antiques also.

Running a carb dry seems counter-intuitive to me. With the fuel
stabilizer, you should have any problems and the various gaskets and
things don't dry out.

Live long and prosper,

Tom

bowgus wrote:
.. so to winterize, I shut off the fuel and ran the engine until it ran
out of fuel so the carb would be dry. I then removed all the spark plugs
and sprayed the
oil directly into the cylinders, cranked the engine over (with spark
disabled) and sprayed again. Now, this won't fog the valves but it does
guarantee there's no fuel left in the carb ... opinions?

I suspect there will be some amount of fuel left in the float chamber,
most jets do not pull from the bottom.

Good luck stalling it ... same suggestion as the others, spray till it
smokes and shut it down. This year I tried something different. My engine's
carburated ... I installed a fuel shutoff earlier in the year ... so to
winterize, I shut off the fuel and ran the engine until it ran out of fuel
so the carb would be dry. I then removed all the spark plugs and sprayed the
oil directly into the cylinders, cranked the engine over (with spark
disabled) and sprayed again. Now, this won't fog the valves but it does
guarantee there's no fuel left in the carb ... opinions?


"Matt" wrote in message
...
I am winterizing my boat (94 chaparral 350MAG 5.7L) for the first time
myself. I have a few specific questions regarding the fogging. How long
should i be spraying the fogging can into the Carb before it stalls out?
I
haven't found any specific ariticles or guides on details of fogging.
Also
is there any tips/pointers for doing this that i should be aware of, due
to
the fact its my first time?

Thanks! ! !

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 10:33:13 -0600, "bowgus"
wrote:

My opinion ... the fuel in the carb (4bbl) would evaporate over time since
the bowl is vented, as will the fuel in the passageways, jets etc ... and
perhaps leave some residue behind ... so that's why I decided to run the
carb dry ... I do this with the snowblower as well after each use.

Hey - to each their own.

And, when I start up with the carb dry, the engine has to crank a bit
(mechanical fuel pump) my thinking allowing time for oil to get pumped up
into the engine which should be a good thing before it starts.

But by not fogging with the engine running, I don't get the oil onto the
valves, seats. I don't see a problem (but I can name a few problems I didn't
see) ... so ... opinions on that?

All I can say is that I've done it for years with the engines running
- never had a problem.

Live long and prosper,

Tom

My opinion ... the fuel in the carb (4bbl) would evaporate over time since
the bowl is vented, as will the fuel in the passageways, jets etc ... and
perhaps leave some residue behind ... so that's why I decided to run the
carb dry ... I do this with the snowblower as well after each use.

And, when I start up with the carb dry, the engine has to crank a bit
(mechanical fuel pump) my thinking allowing time for oil to get pumped up
into the engine which should be a good thing before it starts.

But by not fogging with the engine running, I don't get the oil onto the
valves, seats. I don't see a problem (but I can name a few problems I didn't
see) ... so ... opinions on that?

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:43:13 -0600, "bowgus"
wrote:

Good luck stalling it ... same suggestion as the others, spray till it
smokes and shut it down. This year I tried something different. My
engine's
carburated ... I installed a fuel shutoff earlier in the year ... so to
winterize, I shut off the fuel and ran the engine until it ran out of
fuel
so the carb would be dry. I then removed all the spark plugs and sprayed
the
oil directly into the cylinders, cranked the engine over (with spark
disabled) and sprayed again. Now, this won't fog the valves but it does
guarantee there's no fuel left in the carb ... opinions?

I have never drained a carb dry. What I normally do, is over treat
the fuel for winter with Sta-bil (not by much, maybe 25%), put a
little extra 2 cycle oil in the mix and run the lawnmower, trimmer,
etc for a few minutes to get the fuel into the carburetor. I do much
the same for my antiques also.

Running a carb dry seems counter-intuitive to me. With the fuel
stabilizer, you should have any problems and the various gaskets and
things don't dry out.

Live long and prosper,

Tom

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in message . ..
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 21:22:10 -0500, "Matt"
wrote:

I am winterizing my boat (94 chaparral 350MAG 5.7L) for the first time
myself. I have a few specific questions regarding the fogging. How long
should i be spraying the fogging can into the Carb before it stalls out? I
haven't found any specific ariticles or guides on details of fogging. Also
is there any tips/pointers for doing this that i should be aware of, due to
the fact its my first time?

Keep spraying into the carb until you get heavy exhaust smoke, then
shut it down.

Later,

Tom

OT:

What are the opinions on doing this to a vehicle? I need to uninsure
my 4x4 over the winter and was wondering if it would be good or bad to
fog ithe motor. I am thinking it would destroy the cat. We are
talking about a Toyota 3l V6 EFI

Matt

I suppose you could pull the cat, then fog.

"Matt Lang" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in message
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On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 21:22:10 -0500, "Matt"
wrote:

I am winterizing my boat (94 chaparral 350MAG 5.7L) for the first time
myself. I have a few specific questions regarding the fogging. How
long
should i be spraying the fogging can into the Carb before it stalls
out? I
haven't found any specific ariticles or guides on details of fogging.
Also
is there any tips/pointers for doing this that i should be aware of,
due to
the fact its my first time?

Keep spraying into the carb until you get heavy exhaust smoke, then
shut it down.

Later,

Tom

OT:

What are the opinions on doing this to a vehicle? I need to uninsure
my 4x4 over the winter and was wondering if it would be good or bad to
fog ithe motor. I am thinking it would destroy the cat. We are
talking about a Toyota 3l V6 EFI

Matt