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On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 21:22:10 -0500, "Matt"
wrote: I am winterizing my boat (94 chaparral 350MAG 5.7L) for the first time myself. I have a few specific questions regarding the fogging. How long should i be spraying the fogging can into the Carb before it stalls out? I haven't found any specific ariticles or guides on details of fogging. Also is there any tips/pointers for doing this that i should be aware of, due to the fact its my first time? ================================= Spray it in long enough that the engine begins to stumble and you are getting some exhaust smoke. If it hasn't stalled by then, just shut it down. |
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 21:22:10 -0500, "Matt"
wrote: I am winterizing my boat (94 chaparral 350MAG 5.7L) for the first time myself. I have a few specific questions regarding the fogging. How long should i be spraying the fogging can into the Carb before it stalls out? I haven't found any specific ariticles or guides on details of fogging. Also is there any tips/pointers for doing this that i should be aware of, due to the fact its my first time? Keep spraying into the carb until you get heavy exhaust smoke, then shut it down. Later, Tom |
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:43:13 -0600, "bowgus"
wrote: Good luck stalling it ... same suggestion as the others, spray till it smokes and shut it down. This year I tried something different. My engine's carburated ... I installed a fuel shutoff earlier in the year ... so to winterize, I shut off the fuel and ran the engine until it ran out of fuel so the carb would be dry. I then removed all the spark plugs and sprayed the oil directly into the cylinders, cranked the engine over (with spark disabled) and sprayed again. Now, this won't fog the valves but it does guarantee there's no fuel left in the carb ... opinions? I have never drained a carb dry. What I normally do, is over treat the fuel for winter with Sta-bil (not by much, maybe 25%), put a little extra 2 cycle oil in the mix and run the lawnmower, trimmer, etc for a few minutes to get the fuel into the carburetor. I do much the same for my antiques also. Running a carb dry seems counter-intuitive to me. With the fuel stabilizer, you should have any problems and the various gaskets and things don't dry out. Live long and prosper, Tom |
bowgus wrote:
.. so to winterize, I shut off the fuel and ran the engine until it ran out of fuel so the carb would be dry. I then removed all the spark plugs and sprayed the oil directly into the cylinders, cranked the engine over (with spark disabled) and sprayed again. Now, this won't fog the valves but it does guarantee there's no fuel left in the carb ... opinions? I suspect there will be some amount of fuel left in the float chamber, most jets do not pull from the bottom. |
Good luck stalling it ... same suggestion as the others, spray till it
smokes and shut it down. This year I tried something different. My engine's carburated ... I installed a fuel shutoff earlier in the year ... so to winterize, I shut off the fuel and ran the engine until it ran out of fuel so the carb would be dry. I then removed all the spark plugs and sprayed the oil directly into the cylinders, cranked the engine over (with spark disabled) and sprayed again. Now, this won't fog the valves but it does guarantee there's no fuel left in the carb ... opinions? "Matt" wrote in message ... I am winterizing my boat (94 chaparral 350MAG 5.7L) for the first time myself. I have a few specific questions regarding the fogging. How long should i be spraying the fogging can into the Carb before it stalls out? I haven't found any specific ariticles or guides on details of fogging. Also is there any tips/pointers for doing this that i should be aware of, due to the fact its my first time? Thanks! ! ! |
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 10:33:13 -0600, "bowgus"
wrote: My opinion ... the fuel in the carb (4bbl) would evaporate over time since the bowl is vented, as will the fuel in the passageways, jets etc ... and perhaps leave some residue behind ... so that's why I decided to run the carb dry ... I do this with the snowblower as well after each use. Hey - to each their own. And, when I start up with the carb dry, the engine has to crank a bit (mechanical fuel pump) my thinking allowing time for oil to get pumped up into the engine which should be a good thing before it starts. But by not fogging with the engine running, I don't get the oil onto the valves, seats. I don't see a problem (but I can name a few problems I didn't see) ... so ... opinions on that? All I can say is that I've done it for years with the engines running - never had a problem. Live long and prosper, Tom |
My opinion ... the fuel in the carb (4bbl) would evaporate over time since
the bowl is vented, as will the fuel in the passageways, jets etc ... and perhaps leave some residue behind ... so that's why I decided to run the carb dry ... I do this with the snowblower as well after each use. And, when I start up with the carb dry, the engine has to crank a bit (mechanical fuel pump) my thinking allowing time for oil to get pumped up into the engine which should be a good thing before it starts. But by not fogging with the engine running, I don't get the oil onto the valves, seats. I don't see a problem (but I can name a few problems I didn't see) ... so ... opinions on that? "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:43:13 -0600, "bowgus" wrote: Good luck stalling it ... same suggestion as the others, spray till it smokes and shut it down. This year I tried something different. My engine's carburated ... I installed a fuel shutoff earlier in the year ... so to winterize, I shut off the fuel and ran the engine until it ran out of fuel so the carb would be dry. I then removed all the spark plugs and sprayed the oil directly into the cylinders, cranked the engine over (with spark disabled) and sprayed again. Now, this won't fog the valves but it does guarantee there's no fuel left in the carb ... opinions? I have never drained a carb dry. What I normally do, is over treat the fuel for winter with Sta-bil (not by much, maybe 25%), put a little extra 2 cycle oil in the mix and run the lawnmower, trimmer, etc for a few minutes to get the fuel into the carburetor. I do much the same for my antiques also. Running a carb dry seems counter-intuitive to me. With the fuel stabilizer, you should have any problems and the various gaskets and things don't dry out. Live long and prosper, Tom |
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in message . ..
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 21:22:10 -0500, "Matt" wrote: I am winterizing my boat (94 chaparral 350MAG 5.7L) for the first time myself. I have a few specific questions regarding the fogging. How long should i be spraying the fogging can into the Carb before it stalls out? I haven't found any specific ariticles or guides on details of fogging. Also is there any tips/pointers for doing this that i should be aware of, due to the fact its my first time? Keep spraying into the carb until you get heavy exhaust smoke, then shut it down. Later, Tom OT: What are the opinions on doing this to a vehicle? I need to uninsure my 4x4 over the winter and was wondering if it would be good or bad to fog ithe motor. I am thinking it would destroy the cat. We are talking about a Toyota 3l V6 EFI Matt |
I suppose you could pull the cat, then fog.
"Matt Lang" wrote in message om... Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in message . .. On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 21:22:10 -0500, "Matt" wrote: I am winterizing my boat (94 chaparral 350MAG 5.7L) for the first time myself. I have a few specific questions regarding the fogging. How long should i be spraying the fogging can into the Carb before it stalls out? I haven't found any specific ariticles or guides on details of fogging. Also is there any tips/pointers for doing this that i should be aware of, due to the fact its my first time? Keep spraying into the carb until you get heavy exhaust smoke, then shut it down. Later, Tom OT: What are the opinions on doing this to a vehicle? I need to uninsure my 4x4 over the winter and was wondering if it would be good or bad to fog ithe motor. I am thinking it would destroy the cat. We are talking about a Toyota 3l V6 EFI Matt |
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My father-in-law, (now 79 years old) was an old school mechanic. For
years he "pickled" the Chrysler 318 engines in his old Uniflite by running the engines while very slowly pouring about half a quart of regular 30 weight engine oil into the carburetor. He would add the oil very slowly until the exhaust was really smoking and then kill the ignition. He also did this on car engines that were not going to be used for an extended period of time. I think I've told this story before, but the year I was discharged from the Navy, he roped me into helping him get the boat ready for the upcoming season. His boat was stored outside at a crowded marina, and had several boats right around his, including a wooden one with it's bow about 2 feet from my father-in-law's stern. We spent the day cleaning and painting the bottom. The owner of the wood boat behind us was busy painting the hull on his boat a nice bright white. He finished up, waved goodbye to us and left. My father-in-law decided it was time to see if the engines would fire up. They did. He was in the cabin revving them up when I happened to look towards the stern. You know the rest. It blew all the oil used to pickle the engines all over the freshly painted hull of boat behind us. We launched the next day and he moved to a new marina. Eisboch |
Excellent story ... but yeah, every spring I start the boat up in the
laneway, and every spring I'm thinking ... geez I hope that's just the fogging oil spattering all over ... and not the result of a seized/broken ring :-) "Eisboch" wrote in message ... My father-in-law, (now 79 years old) was an old school mechanic. For years he "pickled" the Chrysler 318 engines in his old Uniflite by running the engines while very slowly pouring about half a quart of regular 30 weight engine oil into the carburetor. He would add the oil very slowly until the exhaust was really smoking and then kill the ignition. He also did this on car engines that were not going to be used for an extended period of time. I think I've told this story before, but the year I was discharged from the Navy, he roped me into helping him get the boat ready for the upcoming season. His boat was stored outside at a crowded marina, and had several boats right around his, including a wooden one with it's bow about 2 feet from my father-in-law's stern. We spent the day cleaning and painting the bottom. The owner of the wood boat behind us was busy painting the hull on his boat a nice bright white. He finished up, waved goodbye to us and left. My father-in-law decided it was time to see if the engines would fire up. They did. He was in the cabin revving them up when I happened to look towards the stern. You know the rest. It blew all the oil used to pickle the engines all over the freshly painted hull of boat behind us. We launched the next day and he moved to a new marina. Eisboch |
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