"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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JohnH wrote:

Harry, are you going to back up your allegations? Where are the 20-30
racist posts you saw?

Or was that just another Krausism?

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


I have no interest in watching your d.f. posts regurgitate through my
news reader.

Well Harry, I guess you've just proven again that you really *aren't*
worthy of any civility. You can't seem to handle it.

You "have no interest" because you are, quite simply, a liar.


Sorry, Herring. My lack of interest in looking through your old posts is
based on the fact you're not worth any particular effort. But you may
spin it anyway you like.

What is there to spin? You made a specific allegation and threat. When
called on to prove it you can't. Yes, you are a liar. You have proved it
here time and time again.

How's doctor doctor doing? Has she helped you pack the custom made 36 foot
lobster boat away for the winter? Where do you winter store it? Where do
you dock it? John may want to actually see this boat of yours if he is in
the area.

On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 07:52:29 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

JohnH wrote:

But it's also the system that allows 59% of the babies born in DC to
be born out of wedlock. (Ironically, this rate is exceeded only by the
Virgin Islands, in the TANF data.)

Are there some things you'd like to say about the mothers of these
babies, John? Don't hold back on us...don't be covert...just say it...go
ahead...come out of the closet.

The mothers of these babies are sorely lacking in personal and
parental responsibility. Because the parental responsibility is
non-existent, the same traits get passed to the next generation, which
becomes the next crop of middle- and high school dropouts.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 07:49:05 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

JohnH wrote:

Harry, are you going to back up your allegations? Where are the 20-30
racist posts you saw?

Or was that just another Krausism?

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


I have no interest in watching your d.f. posts regurgitate through my
news reader.

Well Harry, I guess you've just proven again that you really *aren't*
worthy of any civility. You can't seem to handle it.

You "have no interest" because you are, quite simply, a liar.


Sorry, Herring. My lack of interest in looking through your old posts is
based on the fact you're not worth any particular effort. But you may
spin it anyway you like.

No. You are a liar. You continue to prove it, and it becomes difficult
to overlook. Maintaining civil discourse with a liar is difficult, if
not impossible.

But, I tried.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 07:55:30 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JohnH wrote:

Harry, are you going to back up your allegations? Where are the 20-30
racist posts you saw?

Or was that just another Krausism?

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


I have no interest in watching your d.f. posts regurgitate through my
news reader.

Well Harry, I guess you've just proven again that you really *aren't*
worthy of any civility. You can't seem to handle it.

You "have no interest" because you are, quite simply, a liar.


Sorry, Herring. My lack of interest in looking through your old posts is
based on the fact you're not worth any particular effort. But you may
spin it anyway you like.

What is there to spin? You made a specific allegation and threat. When
called on to prove it you can't. Yes, you are a liar. You have proved it
here time and time again.

How's doctor doctor doing? Has she helped you pack the custom made 36 foot
lobster boat away for the winter? Where do you winter store it? Where do
you dock it? John may want to actually see this boat of yours if he is in
the area.


I'm in the area all the time, Jim. Harry debunked his own myth when he
posted that his lobsta boat was a 36" radio controlled job.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:40:34 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Dave Hall wrote:


In Harry's mind every poor welfare slacker is either black or
hispanic.

Actually, Harry is knowledgeable enough to know that general welfare is
a thing of the past, and that most of those receiving assistance are
children. I don't know what the current stats are, but some years ago,
most of those receiving AFDC were white.

Then why do YOU bring the issue of race into a discussion which pivots
on socio-econimic criteria?


It's almost impossible to get general welfare these days if you are an
able-bodied, able-minded adult,

As it should be.

and there's very little available for
the physically or mentally challenged, either, other than the pittance
from Social Security disability.

This is probably the only area of government assistance that I am in
favor of. IF someone CAN'T work, for physical or mental reasons, they
should be entitled to some compensation.


We're a nation that doesn't give a crap about those of us in trouble.

We don't give a crap when the "trouble" is self-inflicted.

Dave

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 08:56:29 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Dave Hall wrote:
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 07:41:17 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Dave Hall wrote:

Do rich people need section 8 housing? Public schools? Healthcare
subsidies? Welfare? W.I.C.? Planned parenthood? Social security?

Of course...these programs help keep the poor folks "in their place," so
they don't ride out to the suburbs in dump trucks and string whitey up
on the nearest available trees. Just ask Rush. You really are a piece of
work, Dave.

Your personal feelings aside (they aren't relevant), the fact remains
that the government pours a ton of tax money into these programs. None
of which directly benefit "affluent" people.

Dave



Of course they do. Without these programs, corporate America would have
a harder time finding workers it could underpay and overwork.


Most of "corporate America" needs people with greater skillsets than
the people who tend to favor government handouts to working.

In actuality, if a slacker can scam a handout from the government,
that effectively raises the minimum wage that these same people would
be willing to accept to leave the welfare roles. If there were no
public assistance, desperation would force people to work for a much
lower wage.

Dave

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:42:06 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Dave Hall wrote:
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 22:51:07 -0500, DSK wrote:

I'd like you to attempt to explain this, if you can. Which government
services are in more demand from "rich" people?

How about the Park Service? The gov't owns huge tracts of land which are
very nice to visit... poor people can't afford to retire & tour the
countryside in motor homes.

Oh please! You are really reaching. The parks are free. Anyone can
visit them, rich and poor alike.


The parks are free, eh?


I've never had to pay an admission fee, and that's what I was
referring to, in the context that both rich and poor can enjoy a
national park. In other words, the cost of admission is not a barrier
to the economically challenged..

Dave

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Dave Hall wrote:


In Harry's mind every poor welfare slacker is either black or
hispanic.

Actually, Harry is knowledgeable enough to know that general welfare is
a thing of the past, and that most of those receiving assistance are
children. I don't know what the current stats are, but some years ago,
most of those receiving AFDC were white.

It's almost impossible to get general welfare these days if you are an
able-bodied, able-minded adult, and there's very little available for
the physically or mentally challenged, either, other than the pittance
from Social Security disability.

We're a nation that doesn't give a crap about those of us in trouble.


Bull****. Take a look at charitable donations, especially in times of need.
Take a look at the outpouring of support for the families affected by 9-11
or from recent hurricanes.

Perhaps you don't give a damn about folks in trouble but the majority of
Americans certainly do.

- - -

Embarrassed to be an American

"JimH" wrote in message
news

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Dave Hall wrote:


In Harry's mind every poor welfare slacker is either black or
hispanic.

Actually, Harry is knowledgeable enough to know that general welfare is
a thing of the past, and that most of those receiving assistance are
children. I don't know what the current stats are, but some years ago,
most of those receiving AFDC were white.

It's almost impossible to get general welfare these days if you are an
able-bodied, able-minded adult, and there's very little available for
the physically or mentally challenged, either, other than the pittance
from Social Security disability.

We're a nation that doesn't give a crap about those of us in trouble.


Bull****. Take a look at charitable donations, especially in times of
need. Take a look at the outpouring of support for the families affected
by 9-11 or from recent hurricanes.

Perhaps you don't give a damn about folks in trouble but the majority of
Americans certainly do.

No, it is that liebral like krause want the guvmint to determine where those
dollars go, not the individual.....that is the only way the weak minded
liebrals can retain power.



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Embarrassed to be an American

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 15:09:19 -0500, JohnH
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:30:37 -0500, Dave Hall
wrote:

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 22:51:07 -0500, DSK wrote:

I'd like you to attempt to explain this, if you can. Which government
services are in more demand from "rich" people?

How about the Park Service? The gov't owns huge tracts of land which are
very nice to visit... poor people can't afford to retire & tour the
countryside in motor homes.

Oh please! You are really reaching. The parks are free. Anyone can
visit them, rich and poor alike.

Dave, have you been to Yellowstone lately? I doubt many poor people
could afford to spend a couple days there seeing the place.


No, but I live near Valley Forge Park, and it's a common spot to head
for a quick picnic, a day of sledding, or as a make-out spot at
night.....

There are no fees to enter, so it's open to anyone who can get there.

Dave