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moyo July 20th 03 01:51 PM

struck by maniac last night, what to do
 
Last night while fishing under Russell bridge a nutcase came roaring
thru a clearly marked "no wake " zone. When several other boaters
yelled at him to "slow down" he gunned his engines and created larger
wakes. Then he started doing larger circles yelling "You want wake,
how much wake and so forth" It was dark so we could not see the boat
numbers but after he left things quieted down. About 1/2 hour later I
noticed a boat coming right at us I first thought it was DNR but this
boat was too big and then it struck my boat. It was the same nutcase
from earlier and this time was ranting "you don't tell me no wake" I
warned him off many times and cited the 2 kids in our boat but to no
avail. He struck my boat 3 more times doing about 2000 total damage
before motoring away. When DNR arrived after we called 911 they took a
report and got the boat registraion numbers that I were able to see
when the guy was ranting at us.

OK, I have this guy's registration #. How can I find who the owner of
the boat is...?

Moyo

Keith July 20th 03 02:26 PM

struck by maniac last night, what to do
 
If they're state numbers, e.g., TX 9999 SD, you can contact your state's
parks and wildlife or whatever department issues the registrations.

I hate to say it, but if he was acting like that, the boat may be stolen, or
the guy that owns it wasn't driving it. Good luck and happy hunting!

--


Keith
__
If you're too open minded, you're brains will fall out.
"moyo" wrote in message
...
Last night while fishing under Russell bridge a nutcase came roaring
thru a clearly marked "no wake " zone. When several other boaters
yelled at him to "slow down" he gunned his engines and created larger
wakes. Then he started doing larger circles yelling "You want wake,
how much wake and so forth" It was dark so we could not see the boat
numbers but after he left things quieted down. About 1/2 hour later I
noticed a boat coming right at us I first thought it was DNR but this
boat was too big and then it struck my boat. It was the same nutcase
from earlier and this time was ranting "you don't tell me no wake" I
warned him off many times and cited the 2 kids in our boat but to no
avail. He struck my boat 3 more times doing about 2000 total damage
before motoring away. When DNR arrived after we called 911 they took a
report and got the boat registraion numbers that I were able to see
when the guy was ranting at us.

OK, I have this guy's registration #. How can I find who the owner of
the boat is...?

Moyo




Woodchuck July 20th 03 03:10 PM

struck by maniac last night, what to do
 
true but in our state(Pennsylvania) the boat's owner is responsible for
anyone who drives the boat! Also, here the Fish Commission oversee the
waters and boats!


"Keith" wrote in message
...
If they're state numbers, e.g., TX 9999 SD, you can contact your state's
parks and wildlife or whatever department issues the registrations.

I hate to say it, but if he was acting like that, the boat may be stolen,

or
the guy that owns it wasn't driving it. Good luck and happy hunting!

--


Keith
__
If you're too open minded, you're brains will fall out.
"moyo" wrote in message
...
Last night while fishing under Russell bridge a nutcase came roaring
thru a clearly marked "no wake " zone. When several other boaters
yelled at him to "slow down" he gunned his engines and created larger
wakes. Then he started doing larger circles yelling "You want wake,
how much wake and so forth" It was dark so we could not see the boat
numbers but after he left things quieted down. About 1/2 hour later I
noticed a boat coming right at us I first thought it was DNR but this
boat was too big and then it struck my boat. It was the same nutcase
from earlier and this time was ranting "you don't tell me no wake" I
warned him off many times and cited the 2 kids in our boat but to no
avail. He struck my boat 3 more times doing about 2000 total damage
before motoring away. When DNR arrived after we called 911 they took a
report and got the boat registraion numbers that I were able to see
when the guy was ranting at us.

OK, I have this guy's registration #. How can I find who the owner of
the boat is...?

Moyo






Jim Woodard July 20th 03 03:27 PM

struck by maniac last night, what to do
 
It's the same in Texas....but I don't know how they can blame the
owner if the boat was stolen.

Woodchuck wrote:

true but in our state(Pennsylvania) the boat's owner is responsible for
anyone who drives the boat! Also, here the Fish Commission oversee the
waters and boats!

"Keith" wrote in message
...
If they're state numbers, e.g., TX 9999 SD, you can contact your state's
parks and wildlife or whatever department issues the registrations.

I hate to say it, but if he was acting like that, the boat may be stolen,

or
the guy that owns it wasn't driving it. Good luck and happy hunting!

--


Keith
__
If you're too open minded, you're brains will fall out.
"moyo" wrote in message
...
Last night while fishing under Russell bridge a nutcase came roaring
thru a clearly marked "no wake " zone. When several other boaters
yelled at him to "slow down" he gunned his engines and created larger
wakes. Then he started doing larger circles yelling "You want wake,
how much wake and so forth" It was dark so we could not see the boat
numbers but after he left things quieted down. About 1/2 hour later I
noticed a boat coming right at us I first thought it was DNR but this
boat was too big and then it struck my boat. It was the same nutcase
from earlier and this time was ranting "you don't tell me no wake" I
warned him off many times and cited the 2 kids in our boat but to no
avail. He struck my boat 3 more times doing about 2000 total damage
before motoring away. When DNR arrived after we called 911 they took a
report and got the boat registraion numbers that I were able to see
when the guy was ranting at us.

OK, I have this guy's registration #. How can I find who the owner of
the boat is...?

Moyo




Snowjacks July 20th 03 04:37 PM

struck by maniac last night, what to do
 
I assume that you're talking about the Russell Bridge on the Ohio River near
Ironton. Did the incident happen on the Ohio or Kentucky side of the river?
If it was on the Ohio side, contact the Ironton Police today and give then a
report, and then contact the local District Attorney's office Monday to
pressure then to do something. I wouldn't trust Ohio DNR to agggressively
pursue this. If you were in Michigan, Michigan DNR would probably have a
search party after the guy. Depending on the facts, including the size
difference of the boats, extent of the damage, how far offshore you were,
age of kids, etc the perp could be looking at a felony assault charge. If
they had sunk you, it could have led to a fatality.

If on the Kentucky side, contact the Kentucky State Police and file a
report.
"moyo" wrote in message
...
Last night while fishing under Russell bridge a nutcase came roaring
thru a clearly marked "no wake " zone. When several other boaters
yelled at him to "slow down" he gunned his engines and created larger
wakes. Then he started doing larger circles yelling "You want wake,
how much wake and so forth" It was dark so we could not see the boat
numbers but after he left things quieted down. About 1/2 hour later I
noticed a boat coming right at us I first thought it was DNR but this
boat was too big and then it struck my boat. It was the same nutcase
from earlier and this time was ranting "you don't tell me no wake" I
warned him off many times and cited the 2 kids in our boat but to no
avail. He struck my boat 3 more times doing about 2000 total damage
before motoring away. When DNR arrived after we called 911 they took a
report and got the boat registraion numbers that I were able to see
when the guy was ranting at us.

OK, I have this guy's registration #. How can I find who the owner of
the boat is...?

Moyo




malcolm July 20th 03 05:17 PM

struck by maniac last night, what to do
 
good luck


"moyo" wrote in message
...
Last night while fishing under Russell bridge a nutcase came roaring




noah July 20th 03 05:49 PM

struck by maniac last night, what to do
 
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 12:51:05 GMT, (moyo)
wrote:

Last night while fishing under Russell bridge a nutcase came roaring
thru a clearly marked "no wake " zone. When several other boaters
yelled at him to "slow down" he gunned his engines and created larger
wakes. Then he started doing larger circles yelling "You want wake,
how much wake and so forth" It was dark so we could not see the boat
numbers but after he left things quieted down. About 1/2 hour later I
noticed a boat coming right at us I first thought it was DNR but this
boat was too big and then it struck my boat. It was the same nutcase
from earlier and this time was ranting "you don't tell me no wake" I
warned him off many times and cited the 2 kids in our boat but to no
avail. He struck my boat 3 more times doing about 2000 total damage
before motoring away. When DNR arrived after we called 911 they took a
report and got the boat registraion numbers that I were able to see
when the guy was ranting at us.

OK, I have this guy's registration #. How can I find who the owner of
the boat is...?

Moyo


I agree with Snowjacks, persue criminal charges.
You're fortunate that no one was killed. The next time this guy goes
ballistic, someone may be dead. Do what you can to stop him now.
You'll sleep better, and so will anyone boating in that area.

In my neck of the woods, he'd be looking at aggravated assualt,
assault with a motor vehicle, and reckless endangerment charges.

Once you establish the criminal complaint, then go after repair costs.

Good luck,
noah

Courtesy of Lee Yeaton,
See the boats of rec.boats
www.TheBayGuide.com/rec.boats

Steve Barker July 20th 03 07:02 PM

struck by maniac last night, what to do
 
Post the number here, so everyone can avoid this nut if he's allowed to stay
on the water.

--
Steve (here to have fun) Barker
Stilwell, Kansas
UP (MoPac) Coffeyville Sub MP 308
Coolpix 995 / PSP 7.04
PS 7 in the background waiting to be learnt.

=======================
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"moyo" wrote in message
...
Last night while fishing under Russell bridge a nutcase came roaring
thru a clearly marked "no wake " zone. When several other boaters
yelled at him to "slow down" he gunned his engines and created larger
wakes. Then he started doing larger circles yelling "You want wake,
how much wake and so forth" It was dark so we could not see the boat
numbers but after he left things quieted down. About 1/2 hour later I
noticed a boat coming right at us I first thought it was DNR but this
boat was too big and then it struck my boat. It was the same nutcase
from earlier and this time was ranting "you don't tell me no wake" I
warned him off many times and cited the 2 kids in our boat but to no
avail. He struck my boat 3 more times doing about 2000 total damage
before motoring away. When DNR arrived after we called 911 they took a
report and got the boat registraion numbers that I were able to see
when the guy was ranting at us.

OK, I have this guy's registration #. How can I find who the owner of
the boat is...?

Moyo




noah July 20th 03 11:15 PM

struck by maniac last night, what to do
 
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 17:01:15 -0500, "Steve Barker"
wrote:

It's a publicly displayed reg #. I can't imagine posting it hurting his
case in any way. Even if the dickhead did find out.


I'm tempted to agree with you Steve, but I can't. As much as this
jackass deserves the embarrassment, I'd be cautious.

Some sleaze-ball attorney could turn it into an attempt to cause
public humiliation, slander, or an attempt to incite bodily harm or
revenge. I've seen stranger things happen, and it will cost money to
defend.

If it was me, I would make a criminal complaint, right now.

noah

Courtesy of Lee Yeaton,
See the boats of rec.boats
www.TheBayGuide.com/rec.boats

Wayne.B July 21st 03 01:33 AM

struck by maniac last night, what to do
 
On 20 Jul 2003 17:15:06 -0500, noah
wrote:

If it was me, I would make a criminal complaint, right now.


==============================================

I agree. The behavior clearly falls under the assault or harassment
laws, possibly both. Do you have any names or reg #s from the other
boats who witnessed the original incident? If the police refuse to
pursue it, try the District Attorney's office, if they turn it down
try your local newspaper or TV station.


Grumman-581 July 21st 03 05:26 AM

struck by maniac last night, what to do
 
"moyo" wrote ...
He struck my boat 3 more times doing about 2000 total damage
before motoring away.


Weird story... Don't you carry a gun with you in your boat? If someone
attacked me with their boat, I would defend myself... I would just have to
figure that he wanted a burial at sea... We don't have those things happen
around here... Must be because this is Texas and actions like that could get
you killed...



Q July 21st 03 06:54 AM

struck by maniac last night, what to do
 
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 04:26:22 GMT, "Grumman-581"
wrote:

Don't you carry a gun with you in your boat?


Stainless steel is a nice material in a 'salty' environment, no?

--
Q

Doug Kanter July 21st 03 03:00 PM

struck by maniac last night, what to do
 
I feel the same way, but not all boats slow down when the operator lets go
of the controls. Now...if you could hit a gas tank, that's another story.
But that would require a larger handgun and a heavier load than most people
are proficient with.

"Grumman-581" wrote in message
. ..
"moyo" wrote ...
He struck my boat 3 more times doing about 2000 total damage
before motoring away.


Weird story... Don't you carry a gun with you in your boat? If someone
attacked me with their boat, I would defend myself... I would just have to
figure that he wanted a burial at sea... We don't have those things happen
around here... Must be because this is Texas and actions like that could

get
you killed...





Curtis CCR July 21st 03 07:20 PM

struck by maniac last night, what to do
 
(moyo) wrote in message ...

OK, I have this guy's registration #. How can I find who the owner of
the boat is...?


The first thing I would do is get a copy of the report. Did the DNR
officers give you a report number? You usually have to wait a day or
two as a full report may not be completed on the scene.

If that report doesn't have the owner's name and contact information,
take it to the authority that issues numbers for the state. In CA
that would be be the DMV. They may not release info to you right
away. They won't give out owner information on motor vehicles in CA
without notifying the owner first (don't know if that applies to boats
- never asked).

I'd go along with the guess that the boat was stolen. In that case,
the owner is probably not going to be the source of recovery unless
you can show he was negligent.

Calif Bill July 21st 03 07:54 PM

struck by maniac last night, what to do
 
The owner is still liable for the damage. an acquaintance had his car
stolen years ago in Florida. The SC cops find the car and while trying to
stop it, blow a lot of holes in the car and it crashes and takes out the
chains along side the highway. His insurance company paid for those chains
and posts.
Bill

"Jim Woodard" wrote in message
...
It's the same in Texas....but I don't know how they can blame the
owner if the boat was stolen.

Woodchuck wrote:

true but in our state(Pennsylvania) the boat's owner is responsible for
anyone who drives the boat! Also, here the Fish Commission oversee the
waters and boats!

"Keith" wrote in message
...
If they're state numbers, e.g., TX 9999 SD, you can contact your

state's
parks and wildlife or whatever department issues the registrations.

I hate to say it, but if he was acting like that, the boat may be

stolen,
or
the guy that owns it wasn't driving it. Good luck and happy hunting!

--


Keith
__
If you're too open minded, you're brains will fall out.
"moyo" wrote in message
...
Last night while fishing under Russell bridge a nutcase came roaring
thru a clearly marked "no wake " zone. When several other boaters
yelled at him to "slow down" he gunned his engines and created

larger
wakes. Then he started doing larger circles yelling "You want wake,
how much wake and so forth" It was dark so we could not see the boat
numbers but after he left things quieted down. About 1/2 hour later

I
noticed a boat coming right at us I first thought it was DNR but

this
boat was too big and then it struck my boat. It was the same nutcase
from earlier and this time was ranting "you don't tell me no wake" I
warned him off many times and cited the 2 kids in our boat but to no
avail. He struck my boat 3 more times doing about 2000 total damage
before motoring away. When DNR arrived after we called 911 they took

a
report and got the boat registraion numbers that I were able to see
when the guy was ranting at us.

OK, I have this guy's registration #. How can I find who the owner

of
the boat is...?

Moyo





Calif Bill July 22nd 03 02:52 AM

struck by maniac last night, what to do
 

"Wwj2110" wrote in message
...
I had a similar incident on lake ontario a few years ago. It turns out

that
i couldnt press charges unless I could identify the driver of the boat.

My
attacker was a 32 ' power cruiser with about 15 people aboard.
i was able to get boat #s and tell the cops which bar they docked up at .
After the cops interviewed them, I left the port only to find them

waiting for
me at the end of the breakwater.


Well they did not kill you, and if they hit you or even threatened you after
the cop' s interview, seems like they could all be in the greybar hotel.
bill



Doug Kanter July 22nd 03 02:58 PM

struck by maniac last night, what to do
 
Where on Lake Ontario was this? NY side or Canada? If NY, which police
department was involved?

"Wwj2110" wrote in message
...
I had a similar incident on lake ontario a few years ago. It turns out

that
i couldnt press charges unless I could identify the driver of the boat.

My
attacker was a 32 ' power cruiser with about 15 people aboard.
i was able to get boat #s and tell the cops which bar they docked up at .
After the cops interviewed them, I left the port only to find them

waiting for
me at the end of the breakwater.




Wwj2110 July 22nd 03 04:07 PM

struck by maniac last night, what to do
 
Where on Lake Ontario was this? NY side or Canada? If NY, which police
department was involved?

It happened at olcott about 7 years ago. I called coast guard & they summoned
sheriff dept. Sheriff showed up an hour after I hailed coast guard.

Gfretwell July 22nd 03 05:06 PM

struck by maniac last night, what to do
 
Well, if that ever happens again and you get the same unsatisfying results,
call the state police. Sometimes you need the gestapo, not the boy scouts.


In most states the state cops are just "speeder maids". You usually get the
criminal cases from the county or the city.

Grumman-581 July 23rd 03 06:47 AM

struck by maniac last night, what to do
 
"Michael Sutton" wrote ...
My first thoughts are 12-gauge shotgun to carry in the boat.


Winchester makes a stainless steel "Defender" model... Something like 8
shots of 000 buck should mess up his fiberglass somewhat... If you're lucky,
you might hit a gas can and cause it to leak... Follow up with a flare
gun... Personally, I carry my .45 with me whenever I'm boating... I keep it
in a dry box so that it will be protected from the sal****er... I would
think that 11 rounds of .45 should be enough to deter someone in most
situations...



Keith July 23rd 03 02:04 PM

struck by maniac last night, what to do
 
Hehe! He could have called the FBI and told them the guy was trying to take
out the bridge.

--


Keith
__
Money can't buy happiness, but it sure makes misery easier to live
with.
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Sometimes. But, in at least two instances, I found it paid off to bounce

one
set of egos off the other.

"Gfretwell" wrote in message
...
Well, if that ever happens again and you get the same unsatisfying

results,
call the state police. Sometimes you need the gestapo, not the boy

scouts.

In most states the state cops are just "speeder maids". You usually get

the
criminal cases from the county or the city.







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