Question for Harry
 

Harry - Now that Kerry has conceded and the election is over are you
off the Democratic payroll? Since you obviously failed to convert
enough voters to sway the election would you please give up your
attempts and let's turn this back into a boating newsgroup? Sure would
be a nice change.

Tom wrote:

Since you obviously failed to convert
enough voters to sway the election would you please give up your
attempts and let's turn this back into a boating newsgroup?

Harry sputtered indignantly:
I've never been on the Democratic Party payroll. I have from time to
time done some volunteer work for the party itself. I have been directly
involved for compensation in the campaigns of several congressional
candidates over the years and have been paid directly by them for
services, but none of my checks came from the Democratic Party. This
past election, I was involved in the creative end of a series of
television and radio commercials on behalf of organizations with common
political interests, but none was the DNC or any of its affiliates.

Notice he never directly answered the question. Typical Demo tactic.
I marched for peace, right along with the rest of the Division.

--

"Mark" wrote in message
...
Tom wrote:

Since you obviously failed to convert
enough voters to sway the election would you please give up your
attempts and let's turn this back into a boating newsgroup?

Harry sputtered indignantly:
I've never been on the Democratic Party payroll. I have from time to
time done some volunteer work for the party itself. I have been directly
involved for compensation in the campaigns of several congressional
candidates over the years and have been paid directly by them for
services, but none of my checks came from the Democratic Party. This
past election, I was involved in the creative end of a series of
television and radio commercials on behalf of organizations with common
political interests, but none was the DNC or any of its affiliates.

Notice he never directly answered the question. C I marched for peace,
right along with the rest of the Division.


Notice he never directly answered the question? The question was
"Harry - Now that Kerry has conceded and the election is over are you
off the Democratic payroll?

His answer was "I've never been on the Democratic Party payroll"

Just exactly what "Typical Demo tactic" is it that confuses you?
Dixon

Around 11/3/2004 2:26 PM, Mark wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

I've never been on the Democratic Party payroll. I have from time to
time done some volunteer work for the party itself. I have been directly
involved for compensation in the campaigns of several congressional
candidates over the years and have been paid directly by them for
services, but none of my checks came from the Democratic Party. This
past election, I was involved in the creative end of a series of
television and radio commercials on behalf of organizations with common
political interests, but none was the DNC or any of its affiliates.


Notice he never directly answered the question.

Sure he did, you just snipped the question he answered: "Now that Kerry
has conceded and the election is over are you off the Democratic payroll?"

You can't get any more direct of an answer than "I've never been on the
Democratic Party payroll."


--
~/Garth - 1966 Glastron V-142 Skiflite: "Blue-Boat"
"There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing about in boats."
-Kenneth Grahame, The Wind in the Willows

"Garth Almgren" wrote in message
...
Sure he did, you just snipped the question he answered: "Now that Kerry
has conceded and the election is over are you off the Democratic payroll?"

You can't get any more direct of an answer than "I've never been on the
Democratic Party payroll."


--
Hee hee...a lot of Harry's antagonizes don't appear to be very bright.

Mark,
Harry has done some democratic promo work for the Bricklayers Union, he
always like to make it sound more than it is.


"Mark" wrote in message
...
Tom wrote:

Since you obviously failed to convert
enough voters to sway the election would you please give up your
attempts and let's turn this back into a boating newsgroup?

Harry sputtered indignantly:
I've never been on the Democratic Party payroll. I have from time to
time done some volunteer work for the party itself. I have been directly
involved for compensation in the campaigns of several congressional
candidates over the years and have been paid directly by them for
services, but none of my checks came from the Democratic Party. This
past election, I was involved in the creative end of a series of
television and radio commercials on behalf of organizations with common
political interests, but none was the DNC or any of its affiliates.

Notice he never directly answered the question. Typical Demo tactic.
I marched for peace, right along with the rest of the Division.

"would you please give up your
attempts and let's turn this back into a boating newsgroup? Sure would
be a nice change."

I see a second question mark. And I'm not even as "bright" as a democrat:-)

Don

Hee hee...a lot of Harry's antagonizes don't appear to be very bright.

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Garth Almgren" wrote in message
...
Sure he did, you just snipped the question he answered: "Now that Kerry
has conceded and the election is over are you off the Democratic
payroll?"

You can't get any more direct of an answer than "I've never been on the
Democratic Party payroll."


--
Hee hee...a lot of Harry's antagonizes don't appear to be very bright.

Bright enough to relect President Bush.
Bright enough to get Daschle voted out of office and increase the number of
Republican seats in the Senate.
Bright enough to increae the number of seats in the house.

I also read that Canada doesn't want the loosers, Kerry supporters, thinking
that they can just walk over the border and set up shop in Canada. It seems
your health care system and social support system are at their breaking
points. When y'all need a loan come and see us we always help those in need.

Around 11/3/2004 4:38 PM, M-Tech wrote:

"would you please give up your
attempts and let's turn this back into a boating newsgroup? Sure would
be a nice change."

I see a second question mark.

After addressing the first in depth, he chose not to answer the second,
which was a rather insulting question. I don't see any problem with that.

What I *do* see a problem with is Mark trimming Tom's original post to
make it appear that Harry hadn't addressed Tom's questions at all, and
that's just dishonest.

And I'm not even as "bright" as a democrat:-)

Clearly. :)


--
~/Garth - 1966 Glastron V-142 Skiflite: "Blue-Boat"
"There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing about in boats."
-Kenneth Grahame, The Wind in the Willows

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...


I also read that Canada doesn't want the loosers, Kerry supporters,
thinking
that they can just walk over the border and set up shop in Canada. It
seems
your health care system and social support system are at their breaking
points. When y'all need a loan come and see us we always help those in
need.


Don't believe everything you read. My province is crying every day about
our poor record attracting & holding immigrants. Seems most of them want to
settle in the three largest cities. (Toronto, Montreal & Vancouver)

Somehow I doubt we would find you very charitable....unless there were long
strings attached!

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 01:39:01 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...


I also read that Canada doesn't want the loosers, Kerry supporters,
thinking
that they can just walk over the border and set up shop in Canada. It
seems
your health care system and social support system are at their breaking
points. When y'all need a loan come and see us we always help those in
need.


Don't believe everything you read. My province is crying every day about
our poor record attracting & holding immigrants. Seems most of them want to
settle in the three largest cities. (Toronto, Montreal & Vancouver)

Somehow I doubt we would find you very charitable....unless there were long
strings attached!

I've been to Canada more than a few times and have had a good time. We
even looked into buying some property in Canada once, but we couldn't
find what we wanted.

Later,

Tom

"Beware the one legged man in a butt
kicking contest - he is there for a
reason."

Wun Hung Lo - date unknown

After addressing the first in depth, he chose not to answer the second,
which was a rather insulting question. I don't see any problem with that.

I don't see where the question was insulting. This newsgroup is
supposed to be about boating and Harry (along with a few others) has
been on a mission to convert it to his own little political newsgroup
which has done nothing but generate hostility. I, for one, would
prefer to see more boating related topics and move the political
comments to an appropriate venue. Harry may be a likeable fellow,
knowledgeable about boats and helpful to those with questions or
problems but it would be hard to tell from his posts and even if he
posts something worthwhile he will only get blasted by his
protagonists. The election is over - we don't have to face it again
for four more years so why not drop the political BS and talk about
boats and fishing and cruising and sailing and whatever else might be
related to boating? Who knows - we might find out we even like each
other. :-)

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 11:34:26 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Tom wrote:
After addressing the first in depth, he chose not to answer the second,
which was a rather insulting question. I don't see any problem with that.

I don't see where the question was insulting. This newsgroup is
supposed to be about boating and Harry (along with a few others) has
been on a mission to convert it to his own little political newsgroup

Not true. It has not been my mission to convert this newsgroup. I offer
comments on and off topic, and you are free to ignore them or add a
comment of your own.


which has done nothing but generate hostility. I, for one, would
prefer to see more boating related topics and move the political
comments to an appropriate venue.

We used to have a newsgroup where boating topics were discussed freely
and with good cheer. A couple of really obnoxious posters, including one
flaming bitch from Australia, went on the attack against anyone who did
not yield to their notions of how the boating world should be, and
chased off a lot of good "discussers."


Sounds a lot like how some people treat opposing political views.....


The election is over - we don't have to face it again
for four more years so why not drop the political BS and talk about
boats and fishing and cruising and sailing and whatever else might be
related to boating? Who knows - we might find out we even like each
other. :-)

I'm up for that. ..but I don't really want to participate in discussions
about naming boats, or on "what's a 1977 Sinkerliner worth," or "Can I
use that yellow waterski line for my anchor rope..."

Oh heck. I was just about to resurrect the "What name would you give a
Cop's boat" thread.

Dave

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 14:51:57 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Dave Hall wrote:
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 11:34:26 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

The election is over - we don't have to face it again
for four more years so why not drop the political BS and talk about
boats and fishing and cruising and sailing and whatever else might be
related to boating? Who knows - we might find out we even like each
other. :-)

I'm up for that. ..but I don't really want to participate in discussions
about naming boats, or on "what's a 1977 Sinkerliner worth," or "Can I
use that yellow waterski line for my anchor rope..."

Oh heck. I was just about to resurrect the "What name would you give a
Cop's boat" thread.

Baretta, of course.

"Glock" in CT. Or in my youngest's case "Prison Blue" (as in
guard/parole officer).

Speaking of "cop" names, one of the funniest names I've ever heard for
a highly trained police dog is the one that I'm acclimating back to
civilian life right now.

"Skippy". 130 pounds of trained German Shepard named "Skippy".

There is something VERY wrong with that. :)

Later,

Tom

"Beware the one legged man in a butt
kicking contest - he is there for a
reason."

Wun Hung Lo - date unknown

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


One night someone tried to break into the store by using a
suction-circular glass cutter on the front door. When my father arrived,
there was Marvin sitting inside by the door, a round hole in the door
and, in front of Marvin on the concrete floor...a bitten-off thumb.

LOL, I remember telling that story when we would go camping.

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 20:50:07 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers"
wrote:


One night someone tried to break into the store by using a
suction-circular glass cutter on the front door. When my father arrived,
there was Marvin sitting inside by the door, a round hole in the door
and, in front of Marvin on the concrete floor...a bitten-off thumb.

LOL, I remember telling that story when we would go camping.


You tried to break into Harry's Dad's store? What a low life. How
have you adjusted to living without a thumb?

bb

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 15:36:15 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

~~ snippage ~~

Speaking of "cop" names, one of the funniest names I've ever heard for
a highly trained police dog is the one that I'm acclimating back to
civilian life right now.

"Skippy". 130 pounds of trained German Shepard named "Skippy".

There is something VERY wrong with that. :)


My father, who was a world-class softie when it came to animals, always
had a "shop dog" at his boat store in Connecticut. Someone gave him a
German Shepherd pup and the dog seemed to shudder every time a fire
truck or ambulance went by...so my dad gave him what he considered a
"pansy" name...Marvin.

Marvin was a wonderful dog, very friendly during the day...kids used to
climb all over him, pull his tail, whatever. He never even growled.

But at night...when my dad closed the store for the evening, Marvin
became...THOR THE KILLER.

ROTFL!!!

I know what you mean. I had a BC two dogs ago who was a milquetoast,
but we went through the whole training regimen anyway. One evening,
one of the local kids broke into the garage and Toots, who was outside
at the time, came around the house and parked herself right in front
of this kid - nose about crotch level, showing teeth all the time
until I came out to see what the commotion was.

If I'm lying, I'm dying - the kid wet his pants. :)

Take care.

Tom

"The beatings will stop when morale improves."
E. Teach, 1717

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 20:58:09 GMT, WaIIy
wrote:

LOL, I remember telling that story when we would go camping.


You tried to break into Harry's Dad's store? What a low life. How
have you adjusted to living without a thumb?

bb

He can only hitchhike South.

That would explain the high percentage of morons down here in these
red states.

bb

Did I ever tell you about the time I was parking with a my girlfriend and
heard on the radio about a man who escaped from the jail. He only had one
hand and a claw where he other hand should have been. We heard a scratching
on the side of the car, so I started the car up and peeled out of there.
When I got to her house, I went around to open her door, and their was a
claw hanging on her door handle.

If that was not freaky enough, I then went home and saw a window was broken,
but it didn't look like anyone had actually gone into my house. When I
opened the door, I could hear my dog chocking on something. I went over,
opened his mouth and their in his mouth was a thumb that was stuck in his
throat.

"bb" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 20:50:07 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers"
wrote:


One night someone tried to break into the store by using a
suction-circular glass cutter on the front door. When my father arrived,
there was Marvin sitting inside by the door, a round hole in the door
and, in front of Marvin on the concrete floor...a bitten-off thumb.

LOL, I remember telling that story when we would go camping.


You tried to break into Harry's Dad's store? What a low life. How
have you adjusted to living without a thumb?

bb

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 20:50:07 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


One night someone tried to break into the store by using a
suction-circular glass cutter on the front door. When my father arrived,
there was Marvin sitting inside by the door, a round hole in the door
and, in front of Marvin on the concrete floor...a bitten-off thumb.

LOL, I remember telling that story when we would go camping.


Wow, it's really getting piled deep! These stories never cease to amaze me!
Next the 35' lobster boat will grow to 50'.

A dog initially bites someone with their front teeth, not the molars. The
front teeth are design tear the flesh, not bite through bone and cartilage.
They use the molars to break bone, but no person would sit there and allow a
dog to move this thumb to the side of his mouth so he could bite it off. He
would be busy pulling his hand back out of the hole, and ripping the flesh
off his hand.

This is an old urban legend told by Jr. High School kids that Harry must
have believed.

Information of dog bites from the CDC
In 2001, an estimated 368,245 persons were treated for dog bite--related
injuries (rate: 129.3 per 100,000 population) (Table). The injury rate was
highest for children aged 5--9 years and decreased with increasing age.
Approximately 154,625 (42.0%) dog bites occurred among children aged 14
years; the rate was significantly higher for boys (293.2 per 100,000
population) than for girls (216.7) (p = 0.037) (Figure 1). For persons aged
15 years, the difference between the rate for males (102.9) and females
(88.0) was not statistically significant. The number of cases increased
slightly during April--September, with a peak in July (11.1%). For injured
persons of all ages, approximately 16,526 (4.5%) dog bite injuries were
work-related (e.g., occurred to persons who were delivering mail, packages,
or food; working at an animal clinic or shelter; or doing home repair work
or installations). For persons aged 16 years, approximately 16,476 (7.9%)
dog bite injuries were work-related.

Injuries occurred most commonly to the arm/hand (45.3%), leg/foot (25.8%),
and head/neck (22.8%). The majority (64.9%) of injuries among children aged
4 years were to the head/neck region; this percentage decreased
significantly with age (p0.01) (Figure 2). Injuries to the extremities
increased with age (p0.01) and accounted for 86.2% of injuries treated in
EDs for persons aged 15 years. Injury diagnoses were described frequently
as "dog bite" (26.4%); other diagnoses included puncture (40.2%), laceration
(24.7%), contusion/abrasion/hematoma (6.0%), cellulitis/infection (1.5%),
avulsion/crush (0.8%), and fracture/dislocation (0.4%). Overall, 98.2% of
patients were treated and released from the ED.

Narrative comments in the medical records note common circumstances in which
children and adults incurred dog bite--related injuries. Examples among
children included a girl aged 18 months who was attacked by the family dog
in the backyard and sustained an open depressed skull fracture, mandible
fractures, and avulsion of an ear and part of a cheek; a boy aged 4 years
who was bitten on the lip by a dog that was guarding her pups; and a girl
aged 3 years who was bitten on the face when trying to take food away from
the family dog. Examples among adults included a man aged 34 years who
sustained an avulsion laceration to his left thumb while trying to break up
a fight between his dogs; a woman aged 27 years who sustained multiple
puncture wounds to her forearm, thumb, and chest while trying to help her
dog, which had been hit by a car; and a woman aged 75 years who was bitten
while she was trying to prevent her dog from attacking an Emergency Medical
Technician who was attempting to transport her from home by ambulance.



"John S" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 20:50:07 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers"
wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...



One night someone tried to break into the store by using a
suction-circular glass cutter on the front door. When my father arrived,
there was Marvin sitting inside by the door, a round hole in the door
and, in front of Marvin on the concrete floor...a bitten-off thumb.

LOL, I remember telling that story when we would go camping.


Wow, it's really getting piled deep! These stories never cease to amaze
me!
Next the 35' lobster boat will grow to 50'.

He said he didn't answer the "question". He did not say which one. Funny,
you chose to comment on the question he(harry) DID answer and not the one he
didn't? And how is asking to return a ng to normal an "insulting
question"???

Me thinks this guy might have you dems pegged pretty good....clearly:-)

Don

"Garth Almgren" wrote in message
...
Around 11/3/2004 4:38 PM, M-Tech wrote:

What I *do* see a problem with is Mark trimming Tom's original post to
make it appear that Harry hadn't addressed Tom's questions at all, and
that's just dishonest.

And I'm not even as "bright" as a democrat:-)

Clearly. :)


--
~/Garth - 1966 Glastron V-142 Skiflite: "Blue-Boat"
"There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing about in boats."
-Kenneth Grahame, The Wind in the Willows

On 11/4/2004 3:49 PM, M-Tech wrote:

Funny,
you chose to comment on the question he(harry) DID answer and not the one he
didn't?

No, I commented on that one too, as you noted below.

And how is asking to return a ng to normal an "insulting
question"???

Read it again: "Since you obviously failed to convert enough voters to
sway the election would you please give up your attempts and let's turn
this back into a boating newsgroup?"

As phrased, it was both insinuatory and misleading, therefore insulting;
an obvious troll - not what this newsgroup needs to return to "normal."


Me thinks this guy might have you dems pegged pretty good....clearly:-)

Nope, he's off by a nautical mile.


--
~/Garth - 1966 Glastron V-142 Skiflite: "Blue-Boat"
"There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing about in boats."
-Kenneth Grahame, The Wind in the Willows

Oh good lord man. You've just crossed the line between democrat and went
right into liberal!!

The question was neither insinuating or misleading. On the contrary, it was
pretty damned direct!! The guy simply asked if he was going to stop posting
about politics and post about boats!! He may be a "troll". But since he
didn't question the man's life style, relatives, IQ, health, welfare OR
accuse him of sleeping with farm animals I simply cannot see the connection
with "insulting".

Over and out:-)

Don

"Garth Almgren" wrote in message
...
On 11/4/2004 3:49 PM, M-Tech wrote:

Funny, you chose to comment on the question he(harry) DID answer and not
the one he didn't?

No, I commented on that one too, as you noted below.

And how is asking to return a ng to normal an "insulting question"???

Read it again: "Since you obviously failed to convert enough voters to
sway the election would you please give up your attempts and let's turn
this back into a boating newsgroup?"

As phrased, it was both insinuatory and misleading, therefore insulting;
an obvious troll - not what this newsgroup needs to return to "normal."


Me thinks this guy might have you dems pegged pretty good....clearly:-)

Nope, he's off by a nautical mile.


--
~/Garth - 1966 Glastron V-142 Skiflite: "Blue-Boat"
"There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing about in boats."
-Kenneth Grahame, The Wind in the Willows

"WaIIy" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 21:10:26 GMT, "Dr. Dr. Smithers"
wrote:

Did I ever tell you about the time I was parking with a my girlfriend and
heard on the radio about a man who escaped from the jail. He only had one
hand and a claw where he other hand should have been. We heard a
scratching
on the side of the car, so I started the car up and peeled out of there.
When I got to her house, I went around to open her door, and their was a
claw hanging on her door handle.

If that was not freaky enough, I then went home and saw a window was
broken,
but it didn't look like anyone had actually gone into my house. When I
opened the door, I could hear my dog chocking on something. I went over,
opened his mouth and their in his mouth was a thumb that was stuck in his
throat.


Right about then your girlfriend said :

"Is that your thumb or are you happy to see me?"

How did you know?

On 11/4/2004 4:56 PM, M-Tech wrote:

Oh good lord man. You've just crossed the line between democrat and went
right into liberal!!

Hmm. I can't remember ever *not* being a liberal....

I think it's time to stick a fork in this thread and get back to boats. :)



--
~/Garth - 1966 Glastron V-142 Skiflite: "Blue-Boat"
"There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing about in boats."
-Kenneth Grahame, The Wind in the Willows

On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 19:56:01 -0500, "M-Tech"
wrote:

Oh good lord man. You've just crossed the line between democrat and went
right into liberal!!

The question was neither insinuating or misleading. On the contrary, it was
pretty damned direct!! The guy simply asked if he was going to stop posting
about politics and post about boats!! He may be a "troll". But since he
didn't question the man's life style, relatives, IQ, health, welfare OR
accuse him of sleeping with farm animals I simply cannot see the connection
with "insulting".

Over and out:-)

Don

"Garth Almgren" wrote in message
...
On 11/4/2004 3:49 PM, M-Tech wrote:

Funny, you chose to comment on the question he(harry) DID answer and not
the one he didn't?

No, I commented on that one too, as you noted below.

And how is asking to return a ng to normal an "insulting question"???

Read it again: "Since you obviously failed to convert enough voters to
sway the election would you please give up your attempts and let's turn
this back into a boating newsgroup?"

As phrased, it was both insinuatory and misleading, therefore insulting;
an obvious troll - not what this newsgroup needs to return to "normal."


Me thinks this guy might have you dems pegged pretty good....clearly:-)

Nope, he's off by a nautical mile.


--
~/Garth - 1966 Glastron V-142 Skiflite: "Blue-Boat"
"There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing about in boats."
-Kenneth Grahame, The Wind in the Willows


What have you got against farm animals?

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!