On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:27:29 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:38:14 -0500, Dave Hall wrote:


This country was founded by and became the predominate home to Christian
following people. That's a matter of fact, not a statement of religious
intent. Sort of like saying that this is a English speaking country. The
predominate language is English. You can speak something else, but it's
not our problem if you can't follow the majority.

I don't buy it. You lump all Christians together like they are
homogenous, but that is not the case. While 52% of this country is
Protestant, they are not all the same religion. Roman Catholics are
another 24%, but according to this site, they are clearly not Christian.

Any religion which uses Christ as its centerpiece, IMHO is a
"Christian" faith. They may differ in subtle forms of biblical
interpretation, but they share the common element of Christ.

The divide and conquer strategy won't fly in this case.

http://www.born-again-christian.info/catholics.htm

Personally, I would think Catholics are Christian, but use the site to
show there isn't an easy way to lump religions together.

Anyone is entitled to have an opinion. Anyone can put up a website.
There are many people who have agendas. There are nutcases who are
claiming that aircraft were't responsible for the attacks on 9/11, and
that they were the result of missiles.

Dave

On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 08:55:18 -0500, Dave Hall wrote:


I don't buy it. You lump all Christians together like they are
homogenous, but that is not the case. While 52% of this country is
Protestant, they are not all the same religion. Roman Catholics are
another 24%, but according to this site, they are clearly not Christian.

Any religion which uses Christ as its centerpiece, IMHO is a "Christian"
faith. They may differ in subtle forms of biblical interpretation, but
they share the common element of Christ.

The divide and conquer strategy won't fly in this case.

LOL, people were persecuted for those "subtle forms of biblical
interpretation". I am not trying to divide and conquer. Christians are
*not* an homogeneous group, never have been.

thunder wrote:
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 08:55:18 -0500, Dave Hall wrote:


I don't buy it. You lump all Christians together like they are
homogenous, but that is not the case. While 52% of this country is
Protestant, they are not all the same religion. Roman Catholics are
another 24%, but according to this site, they are clearly not Christian.

Any religion which uses Christ as its centerpiece, IMHO is a "Christian"
faith. They may differ in subtle forms of biblical interpretation, but
they share the common element of Christ.

The divide and conquer strategy won't fly in this case.

LOL, people were persecuted for those "subtle forms of biblical
interpretation". I am not trying to divide and conquer. Christians are
*not* an homogeneous group, never have been.



Worry not...at some point in the not-too-distant future, various
Christian groups will declare war on each other, and start shooting each
other's followers for supremacy over the Divided States of Jesusville.
They are, after all, not much different from the Sunnis and the Shi'ites.

I plan to cheer on both sides.



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thunder wrote:
LOL, people were persecuted for those "subtle forms of biblical
interpretation". I am not trying to divide and conquer. Christians are
*not* an homogeneous group, never have been.



Worry not...at some point in the not-too-distant future, various
Christian groups will declare war on each other, and start shooting each
other's followers for supremacy over the Divided States of Jesusville.
They are, after all, not much different from the Sunnis and the Shi'ites.

I plan to cheer on both sides.

Harry's extremist viewpoint is reflective of those who are the movers and
shakers in the democratic party. This is the reason their candidate lost,
and why they lost seats in the house and senate. The majority of those who
voted for Bush are not the right wing extremist Harry likes to talk about,
they would have loved to vote for a moderate presidential candidate. Kerry
was not that candidate.

Worry not...at some point in the not-too-distant future, various
Christian groups will declare war on each other, and start shooting each
other's followers for supremacy over the Divided States of Jesusville.
They are, after all, not much different from the Sunnis and the Shi'ites.

I plan to cheer on both sides.

If history can be considered a guide to human nature (something that changes
very little over time), that idea isn't oh so far out there. All the
intra-faith European wars and massacres aside, we've had a fair share of
similar incidents here in the US.


A not so distant cousin of mine founded a religion just under 200 years ago,
here in the United States. (His grandmother was a Gould from my Massachusetts
line....)

Seems that he and his followers ran into just a bit of trouble, expecially in
the early years:


From a source randmly selected from hundreds...


http://www.sinc.sunysb.edu/stu/dcann/exterm.htm


"On October 27, 1838, Missouri Governor Lilburn W. Boggs issued an executive
order that condoned the killing of Mormons residing in Missouri. It stated that
"The Mormons must be treated as enemies and must be exterminated or driven from
the state, if necessary for the public good. Their outrages are beyond all
description. If you can increase your force, you are authorized to do so, to
any extent you may think necessary." The execution of this order led to violent
conflict and the eventual migration of the Mormons from Missouri to Illinois,
where they stayed until their exodus to Utah."

Gould 0738 wrote:
Worry not...at some point in the not-too-distant future, various
Christian groups will declare war on each other, and start shooting each
other's followers for supremacy over the Divided States of Jesusville.
They are, after all, not much different from the Sunnis and the Shi'ites.

I plan to cheer on both sides.

If history can be considered a guide to human nature (something that changes
very little over time), that idea isn't oh so far out there. All the
intra-faith European wars and massacres aside, we've had a fair share of
similar incidents here in the US.


A not so distant cousin of mine founded a religion just under 200 years ago,
here in the United States. (His grandmother was a Gould from my Massachusetts
line....)

Seems that he and his followers ran into just a bit of trouble, expecially in
the early years:


From a source randmly selected from hundreds...


http://www.sinc.sunysb.edu/stu/dcann/exterm.htm


"On October 27, 1838, Missouri Governor Lilburn W. Boggs issued an executive
order that condoned the killing of Mormons residing in Missouri. It stated that
"The Mormons must be treated as enemies and must be exterminated or driven from
the state, if necessary for the public good. Their outrages are beyond all
description. If you can increase your force, you are authorized to do so, to
any extent you may think necessary." The execution of this order led to violent
conflict and the eventual migration of the Mormons from Missouri to Illinois,
where they stayed until their exodus to Utah."




Not far removed from some of the comments of the righties who post here
and who greet those who disagree with them with the "advice" that they
oought to leave the country. The gun-nutsies, of course, add their bit:
leave the country...or else.



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On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 10:10:15 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 08:55:18 -0500, Dave Hall wrote:


I don't buy it. You lump all Christians together like they are
homogenous, but that is not the case. While 52% of this country is
Protestant, they are not all the same religion. Roman Catholics are
another 24%, but according to this site, they are clearly not Christian.

Any religion which uses Christ as its centerpiece, IMHO is a "Christian"
faith. They may differ in subtle forms of biblical interpretation, but
they share the common element of Christ.

The divide and conquer strategy won't fly in this case.

LOL, people were persecuted for those "subtle forms of biblical
interpretation". I am not trying to divide and conquer. Christians are
*not* an homogeneous group, never have been.

This is 2004, not 1200.

Dave

On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:39:38 -0500, Dave Hall wrote:


LOL, people were persecuted for those "subtle forms of biblical
interpretation". I am not trying to divide and conquer. Christians are
*not* an homogeneous group, never have been.

This is 2004, not 1200.

And still not homogeneous.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in576978.shtml