Felsenmeer wrote:

Same here... had to dodge powerboats whilst canoeing across crossing Crooked
Lake. What scares me more than Bush getting re-elected is that it looks
like the country in general has swung even further to the right.

Liberals will never get it. Contrary to their deluded thinking, the
overwhelming majority of people in this country are conservative and
always have been. Whenever liberalism manages to gain a toe-hold, it's
slapped down in the next election cycle. Americans don't want a
liberal/progressive/socialist country, period. Thank goodness for that!

It's one
thing if the president doesn't give a **** about the environment; it's
something altogether different (and *much* worse) when the president AND the
electorate don't care.

Nonsense! While it's definitely true that most Americans consume/waste
too much, recycle too little and don't put environmental concerns above
issues like values, security and economics, there is still enough
concern to prevent an environmental catastrophy. You watch, once the
economy recovers fully, there will be a push toward stronger
environmental policies. In some ways it's sad, but environmentalism only
comes to the forefront when we can afford it. For example, we
desperately need to reinstate the gas-guzzler tax or something similar,
but to do so now would drive the economy back into recession.

Whether you believe it or not, there is nothing that prevents one from
being both conservative and pro-environment.