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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 04:03:35 GMT, "Calif Bill"
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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:20:13 -0400, rhys wrote:

On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:56:12 GMT, "Falky foo"
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Just getting into the cruising lifestyle.. saw a lame post here about
piracy
on the sea, but it did bring to mind some stories I've heard about
problems
people have had, especially in Mexico. My questions a

Is piracy a problem at all really? Or only in certain areas and only
rarely?

Check out http://www.noonsite.com/General/Piracy and
http://www.yachtpiracy.com/en/index.htm

Good sources for current info. Judge for yourself. Mexico may be
rough, but there's plenty rougher.

Albania is a hot bed of piracy?

Albania?

~~ sheesh ~~

Albania is the Columbia of Europe. Was odd that Clinton went to bat for
them in the Serb / Albanian conflict. But Clinton did like drugs
according
to his brother.

But, but, but.....

There aren't any people IN Albania!! :)

Later,

Tom

You are saying the 3,544,808 (July 2004 est.) residents are not really
people?

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:42:16 GMT, "Calif Bill"
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 04:03:35 GMT, "Calif Bill"
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:20:13 -0400, rhys wrote:

On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:56:12 GMT, "Falky foo"
wrote:

Just getting into the cruising lifestyle.. saw a lame post here about
piracy
on the sea, but it did bring to mind some stories I've heard about
problems
people have had, especially in Mexico. My questions a

Is piracy a problem at all really? Or only in certain areas and only
rarely?

Check out http://www.noonsite.com/General/Piracy and
http://www.yachtpiracy.com/en/index.htm

Good sources for current info. Judge for yourself. Mexico may be
rough, but there's plenty rougher.

Albania is a hot bed of piracy?

Albania?

~~ sheesh ~~

Albania is the Columbia of Europe. Was odd that Clinton went to bat for
them in the Serb / Albanian conflict. But Clinton did like drugs
according
to his brother.

But, but, but.....

There aren't any people IN Albania!! :)

You are saying the 3,544,808 (July 2004 est.) residents are not really
people?

No - not at all. I was under impression that there weren't ANY
residents of Albania for some reason. :)

Which brings up an interesting point. Is Albania still a Communist
Republic?

Later,

Tom

"Beware the one legged man in a butt
kicking contest - he is there for a
reason."

Wun Hung Lo - date unknown

On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:16:07 -0500, "Keith"
wrote:

They actually board tankers to rob the crew and steal the tv's radios, etc.
Just because the thugs are on water, they call them pirates, vs. robbers on
land. Somehow it brings to mind those movie images.

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Keith
The old pirates were thugs on water too. Modern pirates don't seem
willing to undertake the expense and logistics of maintaining large
ships anymore. The small fast boats they use seem to work well for
them.

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/al.html

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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:42:16 GMT, "Calif Bill"
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 04:03:35 GMT, "Calif Bill"
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:20:13 -0400, rhys wrote:

On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:56:12 GMT, "Falky foo"
wrote:

Just getting into the cruising lifestyle.. saw a lame post here
about
piracy
on the sea, but it did bring to mind some stories I've heard about
problems
people have had, especially in Mexico. My questions a

Is piracy a problem at all really? Or only in certain areas and
only
rarely?

Check out http://www.noonsite.com/General/Piracy and
http://www.yachtpiracy.com/en/index.htm

Good sources for current info. Judge for yourself. Mexico may be
rough, but there's plenty rougher.

Albania is a hot bed of piracy?

Albania?

~~ sheesh ~~

Albania is the Columbia of Europe. Was odd that Clinton went to bat
for
them in the Serb / Albanian conflict. But Clinton did like drugs
according
to his brother.

But, but, but.....

There aren't any people IN Albania!! :)

You are saying the 3,544,808 (July 2004 est.) residents are not really
people?

No - not at all. I was under impression that there weren't ANY
residents of Albania for some reason. :)

Which brings up an interesting point. Is Albania still a Communist
Republic?

Later,

Tom

"Beware the one legged man in a butt
kicking contest - he is there for a
reason."

Wun Hung Lo - date unknown

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 03:43:16 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/al.html

Neat - thanks.

Later,

Tom

Yes, piracy is a problem. Around central america, honduras, the n.
coast of venezuela, private sailing vessels are attacked. i'm a ham
radio operator and have personally been involved in 2 rescues over the
last few years. not many, unless, of course, it's your boat and you
get shot.

rescue is iffy. the honduran navy, for example, does not operate at
night.

On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:56:12 GMT, "Falky foo"
wrote:

Just getting into the cruising lifestyle.. saw a lame post here about piracy
on the sea, but it did bring to mind some stories I've heard about problems
people have had, especially in Mexico. My questions a

Is piracy a problem at all really? Or only in certain areas and only
rarely?

Is the government seizure of boats in Mexican water a problem? A family
friend was in Mexican water when his boat was boarded and searched by,
apparently, the Federales. He had a couple of shotguns on board for
protection. They arrested him, charged him with running guns, and extorted
a bunch of money before letting him go, but they kept the boat and the guns.

Common?



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As someone who's spent 6-8 months per year for the last 5 years in
Central and South America I will agree that these things do happen.
Then again, open up your newpaper and see what goes on in your area.
Most people would never go anywhere if they read the crime reports for
the cities that they were interested in visiting.

The majority of time it's petty theft that you need to be worred about.
Dinghies, motor, stuff you left on the side of the boat, etc. And most
of the time taking basic precautions will prevent a large portion of
this. (Then again I had my dinghy and 15 HP motor stollen in Roatan,
Honduras when it was lifted on davits and locked to the boat. I suspect
that was due to us giving a ride to a local who scoped out the
situation. Don't get me going on Honduras...)

Be aware of your surroundings and listen to the radio nets. You'll
figure out where not to go. A lot of times these acts of "piracy" occur
in areas which are known to be dangerous and a stupid cruiser will
anchor there alone.

It's not like you're sailing along whne you suddenly see a skull and
crossbones appear on the horizon and then you're boarded with grappling
hooks. That's the stuff of movies.

-- Geoff


(Bob) wrote in :

Yes, piracy is a problem. Around central america, honduras, the n.
coast of venezuela, private sailing vessels are attacked. i'm a ham
radio operator and have personally been involved in 2 rescues over the
last few years. not many, unless, of course, it's your boat and you
get shot.

rescue is iffy. the honduran navy, for example, does not operate at
night.

On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:56:12 GMT, "Falky foo"
wrote:

Just getting into the cruising lifestyle.. saw a lame post here about
piracy on the sea, but it did bring to mind some stories I've heard
about problems people have had, especially in Mexico. My questions
a

Is piracy a problem at all really? Or only in certain areas and only
rarely?

Is the government seizure of boats in Mexican water a problem? A
family friend was in Mexican water when his boat was boarded and
searched by, apparently, the Federales. He had a couple of shotguns
on board for protection. They arrested him, charged him with running
guns, and extorted a bunch of money before letting him go, but they
kept the boat and the guns.

Common?



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and enter 'wf3h' in the field

"Geoff Schultz" wrote


It's not like you're sailing along whne you suddenly see a skull and
crossbones appear on the horizon and then you're boarded with
grappling
hooks. That's the stuff of movies.

Don't be so sure, Geoff, just last month I was sailing along when I
spotted this boat
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/999784.JPG
headed straight towards me. Closer & closer he charged, till he was
in range, then I emptied the 12 gauge at him and he turned away.
And this was in MD.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_

That's some freaky ****!!


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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"Geoff Schultz" wrote


It's not like you're sailing along whne you suddenly see a skull and
crossbones appear on the horizon and then you're boarded with
grappling
hooks. That's the stuff of movies.

Don't be so sure, Geoff, just last month I was sailing along when I
spotted this boat
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/999784.JPG
headed straight towards me. Closer & closer he charged, till he was
in range, then I emptied the 12 gauge at him and he turned away.
And this was in MD.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_

"Falky foo" wrote in message .com...
That's some freaky ****!!


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
"Geoff Schultz" wrote


It's not like you're sailing along whne you suddenly see a skull and
crossbones appear on the horizon and then you're boarded with
grappling
hooks. That's the stuff of movies.

Don't be so sure, Geoff, just last month I was sailing along when I
spotted this boat
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/999784.JPG
headed straight towards me. Closer & closer he charged, till he was
in range, then I emptied the 12 gauge at him and he turned away.
And this was in MD.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_





Government seizure of boats in Mexico IS a problem.

A friend of mine was sailing from FL to belize when he stopped in
Cancun because he was having trouble breathing. He went to a doc
there who advised him to immediately return to the US for treatment so
he left his 34' boat there. It was seized by the authorities there
for violating his time to stay. He was unable to contact anyone in
Mexico while he was in treatment so was unable to extend his stay if
that was even possible. He got a lawyer in mexico but was not
successful. He got US officials to intervene to no avail. At one
time he even asked me to fly to cancun with him and swim out to her
and sail away in the night but I said no. Eventually, the Mexicans
told him the boat had been sold. The message: Do not sail to mexico.