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Geoff Schultz November 1st 04 09:34 PM

(Parallax) wrote in
om:

"Falky foo" wrote in message
.com...
That's some freaky ****!!


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
"Geoff Schultz" wrote


It's not like you're sailing along whne you suddenly see a skull
and crossbones appear on the horizon and then you're boarded with

grappling
hooks. That's the stuff of movies.

Don't be so sure, Geoff, just last month I was sailing along when I
spotted this boat
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/999784.JPG
headed straight towards me. Closer & closer he charged, till he
was in range, then I emptied the 12 gauge at him and he turned
away. And this was in MD.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_





Government seizure of boats in Mexico IS a problem.

A friend of mine was sailing from FL to belize when he stopped in
Cancun because he was having trouble breathing. He went to a doc
there who advised him to immediately return to the US for treatment so
he left his 34' boat there. It was seized by the authorities there
for violating his time to stay. He was unable to contact anyone in
Mexico while he was in treatment so was unable to extend his stay if
that was even possible. He got a lawyer in mexico but was not
successful. He got US officials to intervene to no avail. At one
time he even asked me to fly to cancun with him and swim out to her
and sail away in the night but I said no. Eventually, the Mexicans
told him the boat had been sold. The message: Do not sail to mexico.


Lots and lots of people sail through Mexico each year and don't have any
problems. I've sailed through Mexico and found the military and
officals to be very polite. I've been in the NW Caribbean for 3 years
now and have never heard of anything like this and believe me, you'd
hear about it on the SSB nets. The major complaint has been the
increase in port fees at Isla Mujares and the requirement to use an
agent.

You need to get a paper called an Importante (spelling) from Customs.
There's a Customs office at the airport in Cancun. It's an easy process
and is free. And they even speak English! This will allow you to keep
your boat in Mexico and import goods for your boat duty free.

I know lots of people who have kept their boat in Isla Mujares for years
without any problems. Follow the regulations and you won't have any
problems. Just like the US.

-- Geoff


Wayne.B November 1st 04 09:39 PM

On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 18:20:00 -0400, "Scott Vernon"
wrote:

I emptied the 12 gauge at him and he turned away.


===========================

Was that at the start or finish of the race?


Wayne.B November 1st 04 11:24 PM

On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 21:34:35 GMT, Geoff Schultz
wrote:

Follow the regulations and you won't have any
problems. Just like the US.


================================

Is it possible to get the regulations in english language text?

Translating government legalese with high school level spanish skills
strikes me as a recipe for disaster.


Falky foo November 2nd 04 05:49 AM

No ****, I live in San Diego and I've never been to Mexico. I try to stay
out of third-world countries with mostly corrupt governments. Not to go too
far off topic here, but one of our TV stations here in SD transmits from
Baja, and is required to air Mexican governmental announcements from time to
time. There are two announcements, one saying that the vast majority of
crime in Mexico is unreported and if you're kidnapped or raped or whatever
you should report it to the police. The second one is an advertisement for
the entire Mexican senate saying Don't lose faith in us we're trying really
hard.

I think I'll stay out of Mexico.





"Parallax" wrote in message
om...
"Falky foo" wrote in message

.com...
That's some freaky ****!!


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
"Geoff Schultz" wrote


It's not like you're sailing along whne you suddenly see a skull and
crossbones appear on the horizon and then you're boarded with

grappling
hooks. That's the stuff of movies.

Don't be so sure, Geoff, just last month I was sailing along when I
spotted this boat
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/999784.JPG
headed straight towards me. Closer & closer he charged, till he was
in range, then I emptied the 12 gauge at him and he turned away.
And this was in MD.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_





Government seizure of boats in Mexico IS a problem.

A friend of mine was sailing from FL to belize when he stopped in
Cancun because he was having trouble breathing. He went to a doc
there who advised him to immediately return to the US for treatment so
he left his 34' boat there. It was seized by the authorities there
for violating his time to stay. He was unable to contact anyone in
Mexico while he was in treatment so was unable to extend his stay if
that was even possible. He got a lawyer in mexico but was not
successful. He got US officials to intervene to no avail. At one
time he even asked me to fly to cancun with him and swim out to her
and sail away in the night but I said no. Eventually, the Mexicans
told him the boat had been sold. The message: Do not sail to mexico.




Flying Pig[_2_] July 12th 11 05:28 PM

REAL question about piracy at sea
 
Check out how the Russian Navy dealt with the Somalis - it's all in Russian,
but the end result is pretty clear. Bet the Somalis don't target the
Russians much any more...
http://true-turtle.livejournal.com/85315.html

The commentary from another cruiser:


Not exactly politically correct but probably very effective.

RUSSIAN NAVY CAPTURES SOMALI PIRATES
How about that - The Russians captured the Pirates, tied
them up, put them on the boats, then set them all on fire - puff no more
Pirates!
NO POLITICAL CORRECTNESS BS HERE!

This video shows Russian Navy commandos on a Somalian
pirate ship shortly after the pirates had captured a Russian oil tanker.
The Euro Union navy that patrols these waters would not interfere because
they feared there could be casualties.
All explanations are in Russian with a single exception of
when a wounded pirate says something in English and the Russian soldier says
"This is not a fishing boat". All conversations between the commandos are
in Russian. If you don't understand Russian, the pictures speak for
themselves.

The soldiers freed their compatriots and the tanker. The
Russian Navy Commandos moved the pirates back to their own (pirate) ship,
searched the pirate ship for weapons and explosives and then they left the
ship and exploded it with all remaining pirates hand-cuffed to it.
The commandos sank the pirate ship along with the pirates
and without any court proceedings, lawyers etc. That is, they used the
anti-piracy laws of the 18th and 19th centuries where the captain of the
rescuing ship has the right to decide what to do with the pirates. Usually,
they were hung.

I would think from now on, Russian ships will not be
targets for Somali pirates.



L8R

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Harryk July 12th 11 05:34 PM

REAL question about piracy at sea
 
In article , says...

Check out how the Russian Navy dealt with the Somalis - it's all in Russian,
but the end result is pretty clear. Bet the Somalis don't target the
Russians much any more...
http://true-turtle.livejournal.com/85315.html

The commentary from another cruiser:


Not exactly politically correct but probably very effective.

RUSSIAN NAVY CAPTURES SOMALI PIRATES
How about that - The Russians captured the Pirates, tied
them up, put them on the boats, then set them all on fire - puff no more
Pirates!
NO POLITICAL CORRECTNESS BS HERE!

This video shows Russian Navy commandos on a Somalian
pirate ship shortly after the pirates had captured a Russian oil tanker.
The Euro Union navy that patrols these waters would not interfere because
they feared there could be casualties.
All explanations are in Russian with a single exception of
when a wounded pirate says something in English and the Russian soldier says
"This is not a fishing boat". All conversations between the commandos are
in Russian. If you don't understand Russian, the pictures speak for
themselves.

The soldiers freed their compatriots and the tanker. The
Russian Navy Commandos moved the pirates back to their own (pirate) ship,
searched the pirate ship for weapons and explosives and then they left the
ship and exploded it with all remaining pirates hand-cuffed to it.
The commandos sank the pirate ship along with the pirates
and without any court proceedings, lawyers etc. That is, they used the
anti-piracy laws of the 18th and 19th centuries where the captain of the
rescuing ship has the right to decide what to do with the pirates. Usually,
they were hung.

I would think from now on, Russian ships will not be
targets for Somali pirates.



L8R

Skip, still fairing


I don't believe in fighting of any kind. I believe that we could have
used diplomacy to handle this situation. If we could sit down with the
Somalis and make them see the harm that they are causing, surely they
would quit.

Harryk July 12th 11 05:45 PM

REAL question about piracy at sea
 
On 7/12/11 12:34 PM, Harryk wrote:
In , says...

Check out how the Russian Navy dealt with the Somalis - it's all in Russian,
but the end result is pretty clear. Bet the Somalis don't target the
Russians much any more...
http://true-turtle.livejournal.com/85315.html

The commentary from another cruiser:


Not exactly politically correct but probably very effective.

RUSSIAN NAVY CAPTURES SOMALI PIRATES
How about that - The Russians captured the Pirates, tied
them up, put them on the boats, then set them all on fire - puff no more
Pirates!
NO POLITICAL CORRECTNESS BS HERE!

This video shows Russian Navy commandos on a Somalian
pirate ship shortly after the pirates had captured a Russian oil tanker.
The Euro Union navy that patrols these waters would not interfere because
they feared there could be casualties.
All explanations are in Russian with a single exception of
when a wounded pirate says something in English and the Russian soldier says
"This is not a fishing boat". All conversations between the commandos are
in Russian. If you don't understand Russian, the pictures speak for
themselves.

The soldiers freed their compatriots and the tanker. The
Russian Navy Commandos moved the pirates back to their own (pirate) ship,
searched the pirate ship for weapons and explosives and then they left the
ship and exploded it with all remaining pirates hand-cuffed to it.
The commandos sank the pirate ship along with the pirates
and without any court proceedings, lawyers etc. That is, they used the
anti-piracy laws of the 18th and 19th centuries where the captain of the
rescuing ship has the right to decide what to do with the pirates. Usually,
they were hung.

I would think from now on, Russian ships will not be
targets for Somali pirates.



L8R

Skip, still fairing


I don't believe in fighting of any kind. I believe that we could have
used diplomacy to handle this situation. If we could sit down with the
Somalis and make them see the harm that they are causing, surely they
would quit.



Unfortunately, we have a few juvenile delinquents in rec.boats who
specialize in spoofing the posting IDs of those other posters they don't
like. The post immediately above was not from me.

Yet another reason for moderated newsgroups.

Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. July 12th 11 05:54 PM

REAL question about piracy at sea
 
"Harryk" wrote in message
m...
On 7/12/11 12:34 PM, Harryk wrote:
In , says...

Check out how the Russian Navy dealt with the Somalis - it's all in
Russian,
but the end result is pretty clear. Bet the Somalis don't target the
Russians much any more...
http://true-turtle.livejournal.com/85315.html

The commentary from another cruiser:


Not exactly politically correct but probably very
effective.

RUSSIAN NAVY CAPTURES SOMALI PIRATES
How about that - The Russians captured the Pirates,
tied
them up, put them on the boats, then set them all on fire - puff no more
Pirates!
NO POLITICAL CORRECTNESS BS HERE!

This video shows Russian Navy commandos on a Somalian
pirate ship shortly after the pirates had captured a Russian oil tanker.
The Euro Union navy that patrols these waters would not interfere
because
they feared there could be casualties.
All explanations are in Russian with a single
exception of
when a wounded pirate says something in English and the Russian soldier
says
"This is not a fishing boat". All conversations between the commandos
are
in Russian. If you don't understand Russian, the pictures speak for
themselves.

The soldiers freed their compatriots and the tanker.
The
Russian Navy Commandos moved the pirates back to their own (pirate)
ship,
searched the pirate ship for weapons and explosives and then they left
the
ship and exploded it with all remaining pirates hand-cuffed to it.
The commandos sank the pirate ship along with the
pirates
and without any court proceedings, lawyers etc. That is, they used the
anti-piracy laws of the 18th and 19th centuries where the captain of the
rescuing ship has the right to decide what to do with the pirates.
Usually,
they were hung.

I would think from now on, Russian ships will not be
targets for Somali pirates.



L8R

Skip, still fairing


I don't believe in fighting of any kind. I believe that we could have
used diplomacy to handle this situation. If we could sit down with the
Somalis and make them see the harm that they are causing, surely they
would quit.



Unfortunately, we have a few juvenile delinquents in rec.boats who
specialize in spoofing the posting IDs of those other posters they don't
like. The post immediately above was not from me.

Yet another reason for moderated newsgroups.




It was pretty obvious it was not from you, HarryK. Way too passive to be the
output of a bully like you. LOL!

Do I know you or do I know you?

--
Gregory Hall



Harryk July 12th 11 06:15 PM

REAL question about piracy at sea
 
In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...

On 7/12/11 12:34 PM, Harryk wrote:
In , says...

Check out how the Russian Navy dealt with the Somalis - it's all in Russian,
but the end result is pretty clear. Bet the Somalis don't target the
Russians much any more...
http://true-turtle.livejournal.com/85315.html

The commentary from another cruiser:


Not exactly politically correct but probably very effective.

RUSSIAN NAVY CAPTURES SOMALI PIRATES
How about that - The Russians captured the Pirates, tied
them up, put them on the boats, then set them all on fire - puff no more
Pirates!
NO POLITICAL CORRECTNESS BS HERE!

This video shows Russian Navy commandos on a Somalian
pirate ship shortly after the pirates had captured a Russian oil tanker.
The Euro Union navy that patrols these waters would not interfere because
they feared there could be casualties.
All explanations are in Russian with a single exception of
when a wounded pirate says something in English and the Russian soldier says
"This is not a fishing boat". All conversations between the commandos are
in Russian. If you don't understand Russian, the pictures speak for
themselves.

The soldiers freed their compatriots and the tanker. The
Russian Navy Commandos moved the pirates back to their own (pirate) ship,
searched the pirate ship for weapons and explosives and then they left the
ship and exploded it with all remaining pirates hand-cuffed to it.
The commandos sank the pirate ship along with the pirates
and without any court proceedings, lawyers etc. That is, they used the
anti-piracy laws of the 18th and 19th centuries where the captain of the
rescuing ship has the right to decide what to do with the pirates. Usually,
they were hung.

I would think from now on, Russian ships will not be
targets for Somali pirates.



L8R

Skip, still fairing


I don't believe in fighting of any kind. I believe that we could have
used diplomacy to handle this situation. If we could sit down with the
Somalis and make them see the harm that they are causing, surely they
would quit.



Unfortunately, we have a few juvenile delinquents in rec.boats who
specialize in spoofing the posting IDs of those other posters they don't
like. The post immediately above was not from me.

Yet another reason for moderated newsgroups.


You dumfoch spoofer! If I really felt like that I wouldn't be here, I'd
be at my own google group. So go **** up a rope, you spoofer.

Canuck57[_9_] July 12th 11 06:47 PM

REAL question about piracy at sea
 
On 12/07/2011 10:28 AM, Flying Pig wrote:
Check out how the Russian Navy dealt with the Somalis - it's all in Russian,
but the end result is pretty clear. Bet the Somalis don't target the
Russians much any more...
http://true-turtle.livejournal.com/85315.html

The commentary from another cruiser:


Not exactly politically correct but probably very effective.

RUSSIAN NAVY CAPTURES SOMALI PIRATES
How about that - The Russians captured the Pirates, tied
them up, put them on the boats, then set them all on fire - puff no more
Pirates!
NO POLITICAL CORRECTNESS BS HERE!

This video shows Russian Navy commandos on a Somalian
pirate ship shortly after the pirates had captured a Russian oil tanker.
The Euro Union navy that patrols these waters would not interfere because
they feared there could be casualties.
All explanations are in Russian with a single exception of
when a wounded pirate says something in English and the Russian soldier says
"This is not a fishing boat". All conversations between the commandos are
in Russian. If you don't understand Russian, the pictures speak for
themselves.

The soldiers freed their compatriots and the tanker. The
Russian Navy Commandos moved the pirates back to their own (pirate) ship,
searched the pirate ship for weapons and explosives and then they left the
ship and exploded it with all remaining pirates hand-cuffed to it.
The commandos sank the pirate ship along with the pirates
and without any court proceedings, lawyers etc. That is, they used the
anti-piracy laws of the 18th and 19th centuries where the captain of the
rescuing ship has the right to decide what to do with the pirates. Usually,
they were hung.

I would think from now on, Russian ships will not be
targets for Somali pirates.



L8R

Skip, still fairing


Yep, old ways work best. Slit their wrists and walk the plank. That is
if they don't catch a fatal bullet first. No repeat offenses and no
cost of trial and keep.

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