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REAL question about piracy at sea
Just getting into the cruising lifestyle.. saw a lame post here about piracy
on the sea, but it did bring to mind some stories I've heard about problems people have had, especially in Mexico. My questions a Is piracy a problem at all really? Or only in certain areas and only rarely? Is the government seizure of boats in Mexican water a problem? A family friend was in Mexican water when his boat was boarded and searched by, apparently, the Federales. He had a couple of shotguns on board for protection. They arrested him, charged him with running guns, and extorted a bunch of money before letting him go, but they kept the boat and the guns. Common? |
Falky foo wrote:
Just getting into the cruising lifestyle.. saw a lame post here about piracy on the sea, but it did bring to mind some stories I've heard about problems people have had, especially in Mexico. My questions a Is piracy a problem at all really? Or only in certain areas and only rarely? Is the government seizure of boats in Mexican water a problem? A family friend was in Mexican water when his boat was boarded and searched by, apparently, the Federales. He had a couple of shotguns on board for protection. They arrested him, charged him with running guns, and extorted a bunch of money before letting him go, but they kept the boat and the guns. Common? If what you say happened in Mexico, then that sounds like corruption, not piracy. :^) Piracy is a problem in certain parts of the world. Go here for this week's piracy report: http://www.iccwbo.org/ccs/imb_piracy...acy_report.asp -Jim |
"Jim" wrote in message ... Falky foo wrote: Just getting into the cruising lifestyle.. saw a lame post here about piracy on the sea, but it did bring to mind some stories I've heard about problems people have had, especially in Mexico. My questions a Is piracy a problem at all really? Or only in certain areas and only rarely? Is the government seizure of boats in Mexican water a problem? A family friend was in Mexican water when his boat was boarded and searched by, apparently, the Federales. He had a couple of shotguns on board for protection. They arrested him, charged him with running guns, and extorted a bunch of money before letting him go, but they kept the boat and the guns. Common? If what you say happened in Mexico, then that sounds like corruption, not piracy. :^) Piracy is a problem in certain parts of the world. Go here for this week's piracy report: http://www.iccwbo.org/ccs/imb_piracy...acy_report.asp -Jim No, it is well known that if you have undeclared guns (no Mexico permit) on the boat, you will lose the boat and all gear aboard. Why do you think that other countries should have no say in their laws? |
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:56:12 GMT, "Falky foo"
wrote: Just getting into the cruising lifestyle.. saw a lame post here about piracy on the sea, but it did bring to mind some stories I've heard about problems people have had, especially in Mexico. My questions a Is piracy a problem at all really? Or only in certain areas and only rarely? Check out http://www.noonsite.com/General/Piracy and http://www.yachtpiracy.com/en/index.htm Good sources for current info. Judge for yourself. Mexico may be rough, but there's plenty rougher. R. |
Thanks for the info. Interestingly, all those maps show the vast majority
of piracy to be concentrated in the equatorial regions and close to land. When I imagine pirates I think of guys on a tall ship at sea with black sails and jolly rogers and eye patches with knives held in their teeth, but I guess most pirates aren't like that anymore. Seems like they make runs on small speedboats, and out in the Pacific on a cuise to Hawaii or wherever the chances of running into any are nil. "rhys" wrote in message ... On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:56:12 GMT, "Falky foo" wrote: Just getting into the cruising lifestyle.. saw a lame post here about piracy on the sea, but it did bring to mind some stories I've heard about problems people have had, especially in Mexico. My questions a Is piracy a problem at all really? Or only in certain areas and only rarely? Check out http://www.noonsite.com/General/Piracy and http://www.yachtpiracy.com/en/index.htm Good sources for current info. Judge for yourself. Mexico may be rough, but there's plenty rougher. R. |
You can view a lot of piracy information, including first hand
accounts of attacks on yachts on the cruisng website www.onpassage.com The address of the pirate page is http://www.onpassage.com/Emergency_M...te_attacks.htm |
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:20:13 -0400, rhys wrote:
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:56:12 GMT, "Falky foo" wrote: Just getting into the cruising lifestyle.. saw a lame post here about piracy on the sea, but it did bring to mind some stories I've heard about problems people have had, especially in Mexico. My questions a Is piracy a problem at all really? Or only in certain areas and only rarely? Check out http://www.noonsite.com/General/Piracy and http://www.yachtpiracy.com/en/index.htm Good sources for current info. Judge for yourself. Mexico may be rough, but there's plenty rougher. Albania is a hot bed of piracy? Albania? ~~ sheesh ~~ All the best, Tom -------------- "What the hell's the deal with this newsgroup... is there a computer terminal in the day room of some looney bin somewhere?" Bilgeman - circa 2004 |
They actually board tankers to rob the crew and steal the tv's radios, etc.
Just because the thugs are on water, they call them pirates, vs. robbers on land. Somehow it brings to mind those movie images. -- Keith __ Adult, n.: One old enough to know better. "Falky foo" wrote in message om... Thanks for the info. Interestingly, all those maps show the vast majority of piracy to be concentrated in the equatorial regions and close to land. When I imagine pirates I think of guys on a tall ship at sea with black sails and jolly rogers and eye patches with knives held in their teeth, but I guess most pirates aren't like that anymore. Seems like they make runs on small speedboats, and out in the Pacific on a cuise to Hawaii or wherever the chances of running into any are nil. "rhys" wrote in message ... On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:56:12 GMT, "Falky foo" wrote: Just getting into the cruising lifestyle.. saw a lame post here about piracy on the sea, but it did bring to mind some stories I've heard about problems people have had, especially in Mexico. My questions a Is piracy a problem at all really? Or only in certain areas and only rarely? Check out http://www.noonsite.com/General/Piracy and http://www.yachtpiracy.com/en/index.htm Good sources for current info. Judge for yourself. Mexico may be rough, but there's plenty rougher. R. |
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:20:13 -0400, rhys wrote: On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:56:12 GMT, "Falky foo" wrote: Just getting into the cruising lifestyle.. saw a lame post here about piracy on the sea, but it did bring to mind some stories I've heard about problems people have had, especially in Mexico. My questions a Is piracy a problem at all really? Or only in certain areas and only rarely? Check out http://www.noonsite.com/General/Piracy and http://www.yachtpiracy.com/en/index.htm Good sources for current info. Judge for yourself. Mexico may be rough, but there's plenty rougher. Albania is a hot bed of piracy? Albania? ~~ sheesh ~~ All the best, Tom -------------- "What the hell's the deal with this newsgroup... is there a computer terminal in the day room of some looney bin somewhere?" Bilgeman - circa 2004 Albania is the Columbia of Europe. Was odd that Clinton went to bat for them in the Serb / Albanian conflict. But Clinton did like drugs according to his brother. |
On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 04:03:35 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:20:13 -0400, rhys wrote: On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:56:12 GMT, "Falky foo" wrote: Just getting into the cruising lifestyle.. saw a lame post here about piracy on the sea, but it did bring to mind some stories I've heard about problems people have had, especially in Mexico. My questions a Is piracy a problem at all really? Or only in certain areas and only rarely? Check out http://www.noonsite.com/General/Piracy and http://www.yachtpiracy.com/en/index.htm Good sources for current info. Judge for yourself. Mexico may be rough, but there's plenty rougher. Albania is a hot bed of piracy? Albania? ~~ sheesh ~~ Albania is the Columbia of Europe. Was odd that Clinton went to bat for them in the Serb / Albanian conflict. But Clinton did like drugs according to his brother. But, but, but..... There aren't any people IN Albania!! :) Later, Tom |
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 04:03:35 GMT, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:20:13 -0400, rhys wrote: On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:56:12 GMT, "Falky foo" wrote: Just getting into the cruising lifestyle.. saw a lame post here about piracy on the sea, but it did bring to mind some stories I've heard about problems people have had, especially in Mexico. My questions a Is piracy a problem at all really? Or only in certain areas and only rarely? Check out http://www.noonsite.com/General/Piracy and http://www.yachtpiracy.com/en/index.htm Good sources for current info. Judge for yourself. Mexico may be rough, but there's plenty rougher. Albania is a hot bed of piracy? Albania? ~~ sheesh ~~ Albania is the Columbia of Europe. Was odd that Clinton went to bat for them in the Serb / Albanian conflict. But Clinton did like drugs according to his brother. But, but, but..... There aren't any people IN Albania!! :) Later, Tom You are saying the 3,544,808 (July 2004 est.) residents are not really people? |
On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:42:16 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 04:03:35 GMT, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:20:13 -0400, rhys wrote: On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:56:12 GMT, "Falky foo" wrote: Just getting into the cruising lifestyle.. saw a lame post here about piracy on the sea, but it did bring to mind some stories I've heard about problems people have had, especially in Mexico. My questions a Is piracy a problem at all really? Or only in certain areas and only rarely? Check out http://www.noonsite.com/General/Piracy and http://www.yachtpiracy.com/en/index.htm Good sources for current info. Judge for yourself. Mexico may be rough, but there's plenty rougher. Albania is a hot bed of piracy? Albania? ~~ sheesh ~~ Albania is the Columbia of Europe. Was odd that Clinton went to bat for them in the Serb / Albanian conflict. But Clinton did like drugs according to his brother. But, but, but..... There aren't any people IN Albania!! :) You are saying the 3,544,808 (July 2004 est.) residents are not really people? No - not at all. I was under impression that there weren't ANY residents of Albania for some reason. :) Which brings up an interesting point. Is Albania still a Communist Republic? Later, Tom "Beware the one legged man in a butt kicking contest - he is there for a reason." Wun Hung Lo - date unknown |
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:16:07 -0500, "Keith"
wrote: They actually board tankers to rob the crew and steal the tv's radios, etc. Just because the thugs are on water, they call them pirates, vs. robbers on land. Somehow it brings to mind those movie images. -- Keith The old pirates were thugs on water too. Modern pirates don't seem willing to undertake the expense and logistics of maintaining large ships anymore. The small fast boats they use seem to work well for them. |
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/al.html
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:42:16 GMT, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 04:03:35 GMT, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:20:13 -0400, rhys wrote: On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:56:12 GMT, "Falky foo" wrote: Just getting into the cruising lifestyle.. saw a lame post here about piracy on the sea, but it did bring to mind some stories I've heard about problems people have had, especially in Mexico. My questions a Is piracy a problem at all really? Or only in certain areas and only rarely? Check out http://www.noonsite.com/General/Piracy and http://www.yachtpiracy.com/en/index.htm Good sources for current info. Judge for yourself. Mexico may be rough, but there's plenty rougher. Albania is a hot bed of piracy? Albania? ~~ sheesh ~~ Albania is the Columbia of Europe. Was odd that Clinton went to bat for them in the Serb / Albanian conflict. But Clinton did like drugs according to his brother. But, but, but..... There aren't any people IN Albania!! :) You are saying the 3,544,808 (July 2004 est.) residents are not really people? No - not at all. I was under impression that there weren't ANY residents of Albania for some reason. :) Which brings up an interesting point. Is Albania still a Communist Republic? Later, Tom "Beware the one legged man in a butt kicking contest - he is there for a reason." Wun Hung Lo - date unknown |
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 03:43:16 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote: http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/al.html Neat - thanks. Later, Tom |
Yes, piracy is a problem. Around central america, honduras, the n.
coast of venezuela, private sailing vessels are attacked. i'm a ham radio operator and have personally been involved in 2 rescues over the last few years. not many, unless, of course, it's your boat and you get shot. rescue is iffy. the honduran navy, for example, does not operate at night. On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:56:12 GMT, "Falky foo" wrote: Just getting into the cruising lifestyle.. saw a lame post here about piracy on the sea, but it did bring to mind some stories I've heard about problems people have had, especially in Mexico. My questions a Is piracy a problem at all really? Or only in certain areas and only rarely? Is the government seizure of boats in Mexican water a problem? A family friend was in Mexican water when his boat was boarded and searched by, apparently, the Federales. He had a couple of shotguns on board for protection. They arrested him, charged him with running guns, and extorted a bunch of money before letting him go, but they kept the boat and the guns. Common? --------------------------- to see who "wf3h" is, go to "qrz.com" and enter 'wf3h' in the field |
As someone who's spent 6-8 months per year for the last 5 years in
Central and South America I will agree that these things do happen. Then again, open up your newpaper and see what goes on in your area. Most people would never go anywhere if they read the crime reports for the cities that they were interested in visiting. The majority of time it's petty theft that you need to be worred about. Dinghies, motor, stuff you left on the side of the boat, etc. And most of the time taking basic precautions will prevent a large portion of this. (Then again I had my dinghy and 15 HP motor stollen in Roatan, Honduras when it was lifted on davits and locked to the boat. I suspect that was due to us giving a ride to a local who scoped out the situation. Don't get me going on Honduras...) Be aware of your surroundings and listen to the radio nets. You'll figure out where not to go. A lot of times these acts of "piracy" occur in areas which are known to be dangerous and a stupid cruiser will anchor there alone. It's not like you're sailing along whne you suddenly see a skull and crossbones appear on the horizon and then you're boarded with grappling hooks. That's the stuff of movies. -- Geoff (Bob) wrote in : Yes, piracy is a problem. Around central america, honduras, the n. coast of venezuela, private sailing vessels are attacked. i'm a ham radio operator and have personally been involved in 2 rescues over the last few years. not many, unless, of course, it's your boat and you get shot. rescue is iffy. the honduran navy, for example, does not operate at night. On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:56:12 GMT, "Falky foo" wrote: Just getting into the cruising lifestyle.. saw a lame post here about piracy on the sea, but it did bring to mind some stories I've heard about problems people have had, especially in Mexico. My questions a Is piracy a problem at all really? Or only in certain areas and only rarely? Is the government seizure of boats in Mexican water a problem? A family friend was in Mexican water when his boat was boarded and searched by, apparently, the Federales. He had a couple of shotguns on board for protection. They arrested him, charged him with running guns, and extorted a bunch of money before letting him go, but they kept the boat and the guns. Common? --------------------------- to see who "wf3h" is, go to "qrz.com" and enter 'wf3h' in the field |
"Geoff Schultz" wrote
It's not like you're sailing along whne you suddenly see a skull and crossbones appear on the horizon and then you're boarded with grappling hooks. That's the stuff of movies. Don't be so sure, Geoff, just last month I was sailing along when I spotted this boat http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/999784.JPG headed straight towards me. Closer & closer he charged, till he was in range, then I emptied the 12 gauge at him and he turned away. And this was in MD. -- Scott Vernon Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_ |
That's some freaky ****!!
"Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... "Geoff Schultz" wrote It's not like you're sailing along whne you suddenly see a skull and crossbones appear on the horizon and then you're boarded with grappling hooks. That's the stuff of movies. Don't be so sure, Geoff, just last month I was sailing along when I spotted this boat http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/999784.JPG headed straight towards me. Closer & closer he charged, till he was in range, then I emptied the 12 gauge at him and he turned away. And this was in MD. -- Scott Vernon Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_ |
"Falky foo" wrote in message .com...
That's some freaky ****!! "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... "Geoff Schultz" wrote It's not like you're sailing along whne you suddenly see a skull and crossbones appear on the horizon and then you're boarded with grappling hooks. That's the stuff of movies. Don't be so sure, Geoff, just last month I was sailing along when I spotted this boat http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/999784.JPG headed straight towards me. Closer & closer he charged, till he was in range, then I emptied the 12 gauge at him and he turned away. And this was in MD. -- Scott Vernon Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_ Government seizure of boats in Mexico IS a problem. A friend of mine was sailing from FL to belize when he stopped in Cancun because he was having trouble breathing. He went to a doc there who advised him to immediately return to the US for treatment so he left his 34' boat there. It was seized by the authorities there for violating his time to stay. He was unable to contact anyone in Mexico while he was in treatment so was unable to extend his stay if that was even possible. He got a lawyer in mexico but was not successful. He got US officials to intervene to no avail. At one time he even asked me to fly to cancun with him and swim out to her and sail away in the night but I said no. Eventually, the Mexicans told him the boat had been sold. The message: Do not sail to mexico. |
On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 18:20:00 -0400, "Scott Vernon"
wrote: I emptied the 12 gauge at him and he turned away. =========================== Was that at the start or finish of the race? |
On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 21:34:35 GMT, Geoff Schultz
wrote: Follow the regulations and you won't have any problems. Just like the US. ================================ Is it possible to get the regulations in english language text? Translating government legalese with high school level spanish skills strikes me as a recipe for disaster. |
No ****, I live in San Diego and I've never been to Mexico. I try to stay
out of third-world countries with mostly corrupt governments. Not to go too far off topic here, but one of our TV stations here in SD transmits from Baja, and is required to air Mexican governmental announcements from time to time. There are two announcements, one saying that the vast majority of crime in Mexico is unreported and if you're kidnapped or raped or whatever you should report it to the police. The second one is an advertisement for the entire Mexican senate saying Don't lose faith in us we're trying really hard. I think I'll stay out of Mexico. "Parallax" wrote in message om... "Falky foo" wrote in message .com... That's some freaky ****!! "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... "Geoff Schultz" wrote It's not like you're sailing along whne you suddenly see a skull and crossbones appear on the horizon and then you're boarded with grappling hooks. That's the stuff of movies. Don't be so sure, Geoff, just last month I was sailing along when I spotted this boat http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/999784.JPG headed straight towards me. Closer & closer he charged, till he was in range, then I emptied the 12 gauge at him and he turned away. And this was in MD. -- Scott Vernon Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_ Government seizure of boats in Mexico IS a problem. A friend of mine was sailing from FL to belize when he stopped in Cancun because he was having trouble breathing. He went to a doc there who advised him to immediately return to the US for treatment so he left his 34' boat there. It was seized by the authorities there for violating his time to stay. He was unable to contact anyone in Mexico while he was in treatment so was unable to extend his stay if that was even possible. He got a lawyer in mexico but was not successful. He got US officials to intervene to no avail. At one time he even asked me to fly to cancun with him and swim out to her and sail away in the night but I said no. Eventually, the Mexicans told him the boat had been sold. The message: Do not sail to mexico. |
REAL question about piracy at sea
Check out how the Russian Navy dealt with the Somalis - it's all in Russian,
but the end result is pretty clear. Bet the Somalis don't target the Russians much any more... http://true-turtle.livejournal.com/85315.html The commentary from another cruiser: Not exactly politically correct but probably very effective. RUSSIAN NAVY CAPTURES SOMALI PIRATES How about that - The Russians captured the Pirates, tied them up, put them on the boats, then set them all on fire - puff no more Pirates! NO POLITICAL CORRECTNESS BS HERE! This video shows Russian Navy commandos on a Somalian pirate ship shortly after the pirates had captured a Russian oil tanker. The Euro Union navy that patrols these waters would not interfere because they feared there could be casualties. All explanations are in Russian with a single exception of when a wounded pirate says something in English and the Russian soldier says "This is not a fishing boat". All conversations between the commandos are in Russian. If you don't understand Russian, the pictures speak for themselves. The soldiers freed their compatriots and the tanker. The Russian Navy Commandos moved the pirates back to their own (pirate) ship, searched the pirate ship for weapons and explosives and then they left the ship and exploded it with all remaining pirates hand-cuffed to it. The commandos sank the pirate ship along with the pirates and without any court proceedings, lawyers etc. That is, they used the anti-piracy laws of the 18th and 19th centuries where the captain of the rescuing ship has the right to decide what to do with the pirates. Usually, they were hung. I would think from now on, Russian ships will not be targets for Somali pirates. L8R Skip, still fairing -- Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain |
REAL question about piracy at sea
In article , says...
Check out how the Russian Navy dealt with the Somalis - it's all in Russian, but the end result is pretty clear. Bet the Somalis don't target the Russians much any more... http://true-turtle.livejournal.com/85315.html The commentary from another cruiser: Not exactly politically correct but probably very effective. RUSSIAN NAVY CAPTURES SOMALI PIRATES How about that - The Russians captured the Pirates, tied them up, put them on the boats, then set them all on fire - puff no more Pirates! NO POLITICAL CORRECTNESS BS HERE! This video shows Russian Navy commandos on a Somalian pirate ship shortly after the pirates had captured a Russian oil tanker. The Euro Union navy that patrols these waters would not interfere because they feared there could be casualties. All explanations are in Russian with a single exception of when a wounded pirate says something in English and the Russian soldier says "This is not a fishing boat". All conversations between the commandos are in Russian. If you don't understand Russian, the pictures speak for themselves. The soldiers freed their compatriots and the tanker. The Russian Navy Commandos moved the pirates back to their own (pirate) ship, searched the pirate ship for weapons and explosives and then they left the ship and exploded it with all remaining pirates hand-cuffed to it. The commandos sank the pirate ship along with the pirates and without any court proceedings, lawyers etc. That is, they used the anti-piracy laws of the 18th and 19th centuries where the captain of the rescuing ship has the right to decide what to do with the pirates. Usually, they were hung. I would think from now on, Russian ships will not be targets for Somali pirates. L8R Skip, still fairing I don't believe in fighting of any kind. I believe that we could have used diplomacy to handle this situation. If we could sit down with the Somalis and make them see the harm that they are causing, surely they would quit. |
REAL question about piracy at sea
On 7/12/11 12:34 PM, Harryk wrote:
In , says... Check out how the Russian Navy dealt with the Somalis - it's all in Russian, but the end result is pretty clear. Bet the Somalis don't target the Russians much any more... http://true-turtle.livejournal.com/85315.html The commentary from another cruiser: Not exactly politically correct but probably very effective. RUSSIAN NAVY CAPTURES SOMALI PIRATES How about that - The Russians captured the Pirates, tied them up, put them on the boats, then set them all on fire - puff no more Pirates! NO POLITICAL CORRECTNESS BS HERE! This video shows Russian Navy commandos on a Somalian pirate ship shortly after the pirates had captured a Russian oil tanker. The Euro Union navy that patrols these waters would not interfere because they feared there could be casualties. All explanations are in Russian with a single exception of when a wounded pirate says something in English and the Russian soldier says "This is not a fishing boat". All conversations between the commandos are in Russian. If you don't understand Russian, the pictures speak for themselves. The soldiers freed their compatriots and the tanker. The Russian Navy Commandos moved the pirates back to their own (pirate) ship, searched the pirate ship for weapons and explosives and then they left the ship and exploded it with all remaining pirates hand-cuffed to it. The commandos sank the pirate ship along with the pirates and without any court proceedings, lawyers etc. That is, they used the anti-piracy laws of the 18th and 19th centuries where the captain of the rescuing ship has the right to decide what to do with the pirates. Usually, they were hung. I would think from now on, Russian ships will not be targets for Somali pirates. L8R Skip, still fairing I don't believe in fighting of any kind. I believe that we could have used diplomacy to handle this situation. If we could sit down with the Somalis and make them see the harm that they are causing, surely they would quit. Unfortunately, we have a few juvenile delinquents in rec.boats who specialize in spoofing the posting IDs of those other posters they don't like. The post immediately above was not from me. Yet another reason for moderated newsgroups. |
REAL question about piracy at sea
"Harryk" wrote in message
m... On 7/12/11 12:34 PM, Harryk wrote: In , says... Check out how the Russian Navy dealt with the Somalis - it's all in Russian, but the end result is pretty clear. Bet the Somalis don't target the Russians much any more... http://true-turtle.livejournal.com/85315.html The commentary from another cruiser: Not exactly politically correct but probably very effective. RUSSIAN NAVY CAPTURES SOMALI PIRATES How about that - The Russians captured the Pirates, tied them up, put them on the boats, then set them all on fire - puff no more Pirates! NO POLITICAL CORRECTNESS BS HERE! This video shows Russian Navy commandos on a Somalian pirate ship shortly after the pirates had captured a Russian oil tanker. The Euro Union navy that patrols these waters would not interfere because they feared there could be casualties. All explanations are in Russian with a single exception of when a wounded pirate says something in English and the Russian soldier says "This is not a fishing boat". All conversations between the commandos are in Russian. If you don't understand Russian, the pictures speak for themselves. The soldiers freed their compatriots and the tanker. The Russian Navy Commandos moved the pirates back to their own (pirate) ship, searched the pirate ship for weapons and explosives and then they left the ship and exploded it with all remaining pirates hand-cuffed to it. The commandos sank the pirate ship along with the pirates and without any court proceedings, lawyers etc. That is, they used the anti-piracy laws of the 18th and 19th centuries where the captain of the rescuing ship has the right to decide what to do with the pirates. Usually, they were hung. I would think from now on, Russian ships will not be targets for Somali pirates. L8R Skip, still fairing I don't believe in fighting of any kind. I believe that we could have used diplomacy to handle this situation. If we could sit down with the Somalis and make them see the harm that they are causing, surely they would quit. Unfortunately, we have a few juvenile delinquents in rec.boats who specialize in spoofing the posting IDs of those other posters they don't like. The post immediately above was not from me. Yet another reason for moderated newsgroups. It was pretty obvious it was not from you, HarryK. Way too passive to be the output of a bully like you. LOL! Do I know you or do I know you? -- Gregory Hall |
REAL question about piracy at sea
In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says... On 7/12/11 12:34 PM, Harryk wrote: In , says... Check out how the Russian Navy dealt with the Somalis - it's all in Russian, but the end result is pretty clear. Bet the Somalis don't target the Russians much any more... http://true-turtle.livejournal.com/85315.html The commentary from another cruiser: Not exactly politically correct but probably very effective. RUSSIAN NAVY CAPTURES SOMALI PIRATES How about that - The Russians captured the Pirates, tied them up, put them on the boats, then set them all on fire - puff no more Pirates! NO POLITICAL CORRECTNESS BS HERE! This video shows Russian Navy commandos on a Somalian pirate ship shortly after the pirates had captured a Russian oil tanker. The Euro Union navy that patrols these waters would not interfere because they feared there could be casualties. All explanations are in Russian with a single exception of when a wounded pirate says something in English and the Russian soldier says "This is not a fishing boat". All conversations between the commandos are in Russian. If you don't understand Russian, the pictures speak for themselves. The soldiers freed their compatriots and the tanker. The Russian Navy Commandos moved the pirates back to their own (pirate) ship, searched the pirate ship for weapons and explosives and then they left the ship and exploded it with all remaining pirates hand-cuffed to it. The commandos sank the pirate ship along with the pirates and without any court proceedings, lawyers etc. That is, they used the anti-piracy laws of the 18th and 19th centuries where the captain of the rescuing ship has the right to decide what to do with the pirates. Usually, they were hung. I would think from now on, Russian ships will not be targets for Somali pirates. L8R Skip, still fairing I don't believe in fighting of any kind. I believe that we could have used diplomacy to handle this situation. If we could sit down with the Somalis and make them see the harm that they are causing, surely they would quit. Unfortunately, we have a few juvenile delinquents in rec.boats who specialize in spoofing the posting IDs of those other posters they don't like. The post immediately above was not from me. Yet another reason for moderated newsgroups. You dumfoch spoofer! If I really felt like that I wouldn't be here, I'd be at my own google group. So go **** up a rope, you spoofer. |
REAL question about piracy at sea
On 12/07/2011 10:28 AM, Flying Pig wrote:
Check out how the Russian Navy dealt with the Somalis - it's all in Russian, but the end result is pretty clear. Bet the Somalis don't target the Russians much any more... http://true-turtle.livejournal.com/85315.html The commentary from another cruiser: Not exactly politically correct but probably very effective. RUSSIAN NAVY CAPTURES SOMALI PIRATES How about that - The Russians captured the Pirates, tied them up, put them on the boats, then set them all on fire - puff no more Pirates! NO POLITICAL CORRECTNESS BS HERE! This video shows Russian Navy commandos on a Somalian pirate ship shortly after the pirates had captured a Russian oil tanker. The Euro Union navy that patrols these waters would not interfere because they feared there could be casualties. All explanations are in Russian with a single exception of when a wounded pirate says something in English and the Russian soldier says "This is not a fishing boat". All conversations between the commandos are in Russian. If you don't understand Russian, the pictures speak for themselves. The soldiers freed their compatriots and the tanker. The Russian Navy Commandos moved the pirates back to their own (pirate) ship, searched the pirate ship for weapons and explosives and then they left the ship and exploded it with all remaining pirates hand-cuffed to it. The commandos sank the pirate ship along with the pirates and without any court proceedings, lawyers etc. That is, they used the anti-piracy laws of the 18th and 19th centuries where the captain of the rescuing ship has the right to decide what to do with the pirates. Usually, they were hung. I would think from now on, Russian ships will not be targets for Somali pirates. L8R Skip, still fairing Yep, old ways work best. Slit their wrists and walk the plank. That is if they don't catch a fatal bullet first. No repeat offenses and no cost of trial and keep. -- Now the real war is on Obama-debt, to save America's future. And do it for your kids sake....and ignore the selfish fleabags... |
REAL question about piracy at sea
On 12/07/2011 10:34 AM, Harryk wrote:
In , says... Check out how the Russian Navy dealt with the Somalis - it's all in Russian, but the end result is pretty clear. Bet the Somalis don't target the Russians much any more... http://true-turtle.livejournal.com/85315.html The commentary from another cruiser: Not exactly politically correct but probably very effective. RUSSIAN NAVY CAPTURES SOMALI PIRATES How about that - The Russians captured the Pirates, tied them up, put them on the boats, then set them all on fire - puff no more Pirates! NO POLITICAL CORRECTNESS BS HERE! This video shows Russian Navy commandos on a Somalian pirate ship shortly after the pirates had captured a Russian oil tanker. The Euro Union navy that patrols these waters would not interfere because they feared there could be casualties. All explanations are in Russian with a single exception of when a wounded pirate says something in English and the Russian soldier says "This is not a fishing boat". All conversations between the commandos are in Russian. If you don't understand Russian, the pictures speak for themselves. The soldiers freed their compatriots and the tanker. The Russian Navy Commandos moved the pirates back to their own (pirate) ship, searched the pirate ship for weapons and explosives and then they left the ship and exploded it with all remaining pirates hand-cuffed to it. The commandos sank the pirate ship along with the pirates and without any court proceedings, lawyers etc. That is, they used the anti-piracy laws of the 18th and 19th centuries where the captain of the rescuing ship has the right to decide what to do with the pirates. Usually, they were hung. I would think from now on, Russian ships will not be targets for Somali pirates. L8R Skip, still fairing I don't believe in fighting of any kind. I believe that we could have used diplomacy to handle this situation. If we could sit down with the Somalis and make them see the harm that they are causing, surely they would quit. If they are in the act of piracy, just blow them out of the water. No introductions necessary. -- Now the real war is on Obama-debt, to save America's future. And do it for your kids sake....and ignore the selfish fleabags... |
REAL question about piracy at sea
On Jul 12, 11:28*am, "Flying Pig" wrote:
Check out how the Russian Navy dealt with the Somalis - it's all in Russian, but the end result is pretty clear. *Bet the Somalis don't target the Russians much any more...http://true-turtle.livejournal.com/85315.html "The Euro Union navy that patrols these waters would not interfere because they feared there could be casualties." Yeah, they're own... |
REAL question about piracy at sea
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 12:45:57 -0400, Harryk
wrote: On 7/12/11 12:34 PM, Harryk wrote: In , says... Check out how the Russian Navy dealt with the Somalis - it's all in Russian, but the end result is pretty clear. Bet the Somalis don't target the Russians much any more... http://true-turtle.livejournal.com/85315.html The commentary from another cruiser: Not exactly politically correct but probably very effective. RUSSIAN NAVY CAPTURES SOMALI PIRATES How about that - The Russians captured the Pirates, tied them up, put them on the boats, then set them all on fire - puff no more Pirates! NO POLITICAL CORRECTNESS BS HERE! This video shows Russian Navy commandos on a Somalian pirate ship shortly after the pirates had captured a Russian oil tanker. The Euro Union navy that patrols these waters would not interfere because they feared there could be casualties. All explanations are in Russian with a single exception of when a wounded pirate says something in English and the Russian soldier says "This is not a fishing boat". All conversations between the commandos are in Russian. If you don't understand Russian, the pictures speak for themselves. The soldiers freed their compatriots and the tanker. The Russian Navy Commandos moved the pirates back to their own (pirate) ship, searched the pirate ship for weapons and explosives and then they left the ship and exploded it with all remaining pirates hand-cuffed to it. The commandos sank the pirate ship along with the pirates and without any court proceedings, lawyers etc. That is, they used the anti-piracy laws of the 18th and 19th centuries where the captain of the rescuing ship has the right to decide what to do with the pirates. Usually, they were hung. I would think from now on, Russian ships will not be targets for Somali pirates. L8R Skip, still fairing I don't believe in fighting of any kind. I believe that we could have used diplomacy to handle this situation. If we could sit down with the Somalis and make them see the harm that they are causing, surely they would quit. Unfortunately, we have a few juvenile delinquents in rec.boats who specialize in spoofing the posting IDs of those other posters they don't like. The post immediately above was not from me. Yet another reason for moderated newsgroups. True, too true. And, one might add, so are you. MYA |
REAL question about piracy at sea
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 13:15:56 -0400, Harryk
wrote: In article , naled24511 says... On 7/12/11 12:34 PM, Harryk wrote: In , says... Check out how the Russian Navy dealt with the Somalis - it's all in Russian, but the end result is pretty clear. Bet the Somalis don't target the Russians much any more... http://true-turtle.livejournal.com/85315.html The commentary from another cruiser: Not exactly politically correct but probably very effective. RUSSIAN NAVY CAPTURES SOMALI PIRATES How about that - The Russians captured the Pirates, tied them up, put them on the boats, then set them all on fire - puff no more Pirates! NO POLITICAL CORRECTNESS BS HERE! This video shows Russian Navy commandos on a Somalian pirate ship shortly after the pirates had captured a Russian oil tanker. The Euro Union navy that patrols these waters would not interfere because they feared there could be casualties. All explanations are in Russian with a single exception of when a wounded pirate says something in English and the Russian soldier says "This is not a fishing boat". All conversations between the commandos are in Russian. If you don't understand Russian, the pictures speak for themselves. The soldiers freed their compatriots and the tanker. The Russian Navy Commandos moved the pirates back to their own (pirate) ship, searched the pirate ship for weapons and explosives and then they left the ship and exploded it with all remaining pirates hand-cuffed to it. The commandos sank the pirate ship along with the pirates and without any court proceedings, lawyers etc. That is, they used the anti-piracy laws of the 18th and 19th centuries where the captain of the rescuing ship has the right to decide what to do with the pirates. Usually, they were hung. I would think from now on, Russian ships will not be targets for Somali pirates. L8R Skip, still fairing I don't believe in fighting of any kind. I believe that we could have used diplomacy to handle this situation. If we could sit down with the Somalis and make them see the harm that they are causing, surely they would quit. Unfortunately, we have a few juvenile delinquents in rec.boats who specialize in spoofing the posting IDs of those other posters they don't like. The post immediately above was not from me. Yet another reason for moderated newsgroups. You dumfoch spoofer! If I really felt like that I wouldn't be here, I'd be at my own google group. So go **** up a rope, you spoofer. Er. Just wondering. How does one get invited to your moderated group? Does one first have to become a horse's ass like you? MYA |
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