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OT--O'Reilly accuser in deep debt
The DRUDGE REPORT has obtained O'Reilly accuser Andrea Mackris' financial
records which show a combined debt of nearly $100,000! FOXNEWS producer Andrea Mackris, who filed a multimillion dollar sexual harassment suit against top talker O'Reilly earlier this month, has I.O.U's scatted throughout the financial world, records show. Mackris was making $93K a year when she returned to FOXNEWS in 2004 [she earned $69,088 in 2003], but records dated October 18 show she holds $37,578 in credit card debt, and $61,913 in student loans. "It appears Ms. Mackris was living way beyond her means," a source close to the situation told DRUDGE late Thursday. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Damn. If she's "living way beyond her means", then *I'm* in deep ****. $100k in debt? That's it? I'm in the hock for about a million-five. |
NOYB wrote:
The DRUDGE REPORT has obtained O'Reilly accuser Andrea Mackris' financial records which show a combined debt of nearly $100,000! Did Drudge report that O'Reilly offered to cough up $2 million if Ms. Mackie walked away? -- Jesus was the ultimate liberal progressive revolutionary of all history. The conservative religious and social structure that he defied hated and crucified him. They examined His life and did not like what they saw. He aligned himself with the poor and the oppressed. He challenged the religious orthodoxy of his day. He advocated pacifism and loving our enemies. He liberated women and minorities from oppression. He healed on the Sabbath and forgave adulterers and prostitutes. He associated with drunks and other social outcasts. He rebuked the religious right of his day because they embraced the letter of the law instead of the Spirit. He loved sinners and called them to himself. Jesus was the original Liberal. He was a progressive, and he was judged and hated for it. It was the self-righteous religionists that he rebuked and he called them hypocrites. The primary issues of Christian Liberalism were birthed when Jesus spoke the profoundly prophetic words found in Matthew 25: 31-46. These scriptures reveal God's heart for the poor, the sick and other neglected people through out history. Christians should read this text and judge for themselves which of the two groups mentioned there more accurately reflect the political parties of today. His Liberalism lives on today and the issues have not changed much. |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: The DRUDGE REPORT has obtained O'Reilly accuser Andrea Mackris' financial records which show a combined debt of nearly $100,000! Did Drudge report that O'Reilly offered to cough up $2 million if Ms. Mackie walked away? Yes. I'm not a big fan of O'Reilly because he's smug and arrogant...even when he's not doing his show. It's one thing to be that way as part of your schtick...but I'm convinced that he's just one miserable SOB in real life. |
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: The DRUDGE REPORT has obtained O'Reilly accuser Andrea Mackris' financial records which show a combined debt of nearly $100,000! Did Drudge report that O'Reilly offered to cough up $2 million if Ms. Mackie walked away? Yes. I'm not a big fan of O'Reilly because he's smug and arrogant...even when he's not doing his show. It's one thing to be that way as part of your schtick...but I'm convinced that he's just one miserable SOB in real life. I should contact him...for $2 million, I'll listen to him breathe heavy. - Jesus was the ultimate liberal progressive revolutionary of all history. The conservative religious and social structure that he defied hated and crucified him. They examined His life and did not like what they saw. He aligned himself with the poor and the oppressed. He challenged the religious orthodoxy of his day. He advocated pacifism and loving our enemies. He liberated women and minorities from oppression. He healed on the Sabbath and forgave adulterers and prostitutes. He associated with drunks and other social outcasts. He rebuked the religious right of his day because they embraced the letter of the law instead of the Spirit. He loved sinners and called them to himself. Jesus was the original Liberal. He was a progressive, and he was judged and hated for it. It was the self-righteous religionists that he rebuked and he called them hypocrites. The primary issues of Christian Liberalism were birthed when Jesus spoke the profoundly prophetic words found in Matthew 25: 31-46. These scriptures reveal God's heart for the poor, the sick and other neglected people through out history. Christians should read this text and judge for themselves which of the two groups mentioned there more accurately reflect the political parties of today. His Liberalism lives on today and the issues have not changed much. |
In article . net, NOYB wrote: The DRUDGE REPORT has obtained O'Reilly accuser Andrea Mackris' financial records which show a combined debt of nearly $100,000! FOXNEWS producer Andrea Mackris, who filed a multimillion dollar sexual harassment suit against top talker O'Reilly earlier this month, has I.O.U's scatted throughout the financial world, records show. Mackris was making $93K a year when she returned to FOXNEWS in 2004 [she earned $69,088 in 2003], but records dated October 18 show she holds $37,578 in credit card debt, and $61,913 in student loans. "It appears Ms. Mackris was living way beyond her means," a source close to the situation told DRUDGE late Thursday. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Damn. If she's "living way beyond her means", then *I'm* in deep ****. $100k in debt? That's it? I'm in the hock for about a million-five. $37k in credit card debt is BIG trouble for someone making $100k a year. If that's true and she simply was trying to play an extortion game then she's finished both professionally and personally. If notm then OReilley is. The problem with believing her, for me, is that she came BACK after the original harassment AND she had a different job. I could see her leaving and then suing - but it makes NO sense to get harassed, leave, then COME BACK for a second dose of the harassment - unless it wasn't harassment! -- -- Karl Denninger ) Internet Consultant & Kids Rights Activist http://www.denninger.net My home on the net - links to everything I do! http://scubaforum.org Your UNCENSORED place to talk about DIVING! http://www.spamcuda.net SPAM FREE mailboxes - FREE FOR A LIMITED TIME! http://genesis3.blogspot.com Musings Of A Sentient Mind |
Karl Denninger wrote:
In article . net, NOYB wrote: The DRUDGE REPORT has obtained O'Reilly accuser Andrea Mackris' financial records which show a combined debt of nearly $100,000! FOXNEWS producer Andrea Mackris, who filed a multimillion dollar sexual harassment suit against top talker O'Reilly earlier this month, has I.O.U's scatted throughout the financial world, records show. Mackris was making $93K a year when she returned to FOXNEWS in 2004 [she earned $69,088 in 2003], but records dated October 18 show she holds $37,578 in credit card debt, and $61,913 in student loans. "It appears Ms. Mackris was living way beyond her means," a source close to the situation told DRUDGE late Thursday. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Damn. If she's "living way beyond her means", then *I'm* in deep ****. $100k in debt? That's it? I'm in the hock for about a million-five. $37k in credit card debt is BIG trouble for someone making $100k a year. If that's true and she simply was trying to play an extortion game then she's finished both professionally and personally. If notm then OReilley is. Naw. Rush isn't finished...and he's a druggie. The problem with believing her, for me, is that she came BACK after the original harassment AND she had a different job. Really? That must be why O'Reilly offered her $2 million to walk away, eh? -- Jesus was the ultimate liberal progressive revolutionary of all history. The conservative religious and social structure that he defied hated and crucified him. They examined His life and did not like what they saw. He aligned himself with the poor and the oppressed. He challenged the religious orthodoxy of his day. He advocated pacifism and loving our enemies. He liberated women and minorities from oppression. He healed on the Sabbath and forgave adulterers and prostitutes. He associated with drunks and other social outcasts. He rebuked the religious right of his day because they embraced the letter of the law instead of the Spirit. He loved sinners and called them to himself. Jesus was the original Liberal. He was a progressive, and he was judged and hated for it. It was the self-righteous religionists that he rebuked and he called them hypocrites. The primary issues of Christian Liberalism were birthed when Jesus spoke the profoundly prophetic words found in Matthew 25: 31-46. These scriptures reveal God's heart for the poor, the sick and other neglected people through out history. Christians should read this text and judge for themselves which of the two groups mentioned there more accurately reflect the political parties of today. His Liberalism lives on today and the issues have not changed much. |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: The DRUDGE REPORT has obtained O'Reilly accuser Andrea Mackris' financial records which show a combined debt of nearly $100,000! Did Drudge report that O'Reilly offered to cough up $2 million if Ms. Mackie walked away? Yes. I'm not a big fan of O'Reilly because he's smug and arrogant...even when he's not doing his show. It's one thing to be that way as part of your schtick...but I'm convinced that he's just one miserable SOB in real life. I should contact him...for $2 million, I'll listen to him breathe heavy. Why not? You are used to it, even when you do it in the name of the unions and the dems. |
In article , Harry Krause wrote: Karl Denninger wrote: In article . net, NOYB wrote: The DRUDGE REPORT has obtained O'Reilly accuser Andrea Mackris' financial records which show a combined debt of nearly $100,000! FOXNEWS producer Andrea Mackris, who filed a multimillion dollar sexual harassment suit against top talker O'Reilly earlier this month, has I.O.U's scatted throughout the financial world, records show. Mackris was making $93K a year when she returned to FOXNEWS in 2004 [she earned $69,088 in 2003], but records dated October 18 show she holds $37,578 in credit card debt, and $61,913 in student loans. "It appears Ms. Mackris was living way beyond her means," a source close to the situation told DRUDGE late Thursday. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Damn. If she's "living way beyond her means", then *I'm* in deep ****. $100k in debt? That's it? I'm in the hock for about a million-five. $37k in credit card debt is BIG trouble for someone making $100k a year. If that's true and she simply was trying to play an extortion game then she's finished both professionally and personally. If notm then OReilley is. Naw. Rush isn't finished...and he's a druggie. The problem with believing her, for me, is that she came BACK after the original harassment AND she had a different job. Really? That must be why O'Reilly offered her $2 million to walk away, eh? Due to the extortion game of the rad left (that would include you) it is often cheaper to pay people to shut up than fight. That has nothing to do with whether their complaint has merit. On the other hand, her returning back to work for OReilly after having left for another netwokr, when the supposed behavior was going on BEFORE that point, is highly suspicious to me. It owuld take firm and absolute PROOF that she was actualy being harassed were iI on the jury for me to believe her. She's going to have trouble meeting that burden, I suspect. -- -- Karl Denninger ) Internet Consultant & Kids Rights Activist http://www.denninger.net My home on the net - links to everything I do! http://scubaforum.org Your UNCENSORED place to talk about DIVING! http://www.spamcuda.net SPAM FREE mailboxes - FREE FOR A LIMITED TIME! http://genesis3.blogspot.com Musings Of A Sentient Mind |
Karl Denninger wrote:
In article , Harry Krause wrote: Karl Denninger wrote: In article . net, NOYB wrote: The DRUDGE REPORT has obtained O'Reilly accuser Andrea Mackris' financial records which show a combined debt of nearly $100,000! FOXNEWS producer Andrea Mackris, who filed a multimillion dollar sexual harassment suit against top talker O'Reilly earlier this month, has I.O.U's scatted throughout the financial world, records show. Mackris was making $93K a year when she returned to FOXNEWS in 2004 [she earned $69,088 in 2003], but records dated October 18 show she holds $37,578 in credit card debt, and $61,913 in student loans. "It appears Ms. Mackris was living way beyond her means," a source close to the situation told DRUDGE late Thursday. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Damn. If she's "living way beyond her means", then *I'm* in deep ****. $100k in debt? That's it? I'm in the hock for about a million-five. $37k in credit card debt is BIG trouble for someone making $100k a year. If that's true and she simply was trying to play an extortion game then she's finished both professionally and personally. If notm then OReilley is. Naw. Rush isn't finished...and he's a druggie. The problem with believing her, for me, is that she came BACK after the original harassment AND she had a different job. Really? That must be why O'Reilly offered her $2 million to walk away, eh? Due to the extortion game of the rad left (that would include you) it is often cheaper to pay people to shut up than fight. Now, Karl...be nice...just because I hope a woman takes you to the cleaners That has nothing to do with whether their complaint has merit. Perhaps you ought to read up some more on the case. O'Reilly isn't denying it...he just is ****ed at how much money the lady wants. -- Jesus was the ultimate liberal progressive revolutionary of all history. The conservative religious and social structure that he defied hated and crucified him. They examined His life and did not like what they saw. He aligned himself with the poor and the oppressed. He challenged the religious orthodoxy of his day. He advocated pacifism and loving our enemies. He liberated women and minorities from oppression. He healed on the Sabbath and forgave adulterers and prostitutes. He associated with drunks and other social outcasts. He rebuked the religious right of his day because they embraced the letter of the law instead of the Spirit. He loved sinners and called them to himself. Jesus was the original Liberal. He was a progressive, and he was judged and hated for it. It was the self-righteous religionists that he rebuked and he called them hypocrites. The primary issues of Christian Liberalism were birthed when Jesus spoke the profoundly prophetic words found in Matthew 25: 31-46. These scriptures reveal God's heart for the poor, the sick and other neglected people through out history. Christians should read this text and judge for themselves which of the two groups mentioned there more accurately reflect the political parties of today. His Liberalism lives on today and the issues have not changed much. |
In article , Harry Krause wrote: That has nothing to do with whether their complaint has merit. Perhaps you ought to read up some more on the case. O'Reilly isn't denying it...he just is ****ed at how much money the lady wants. Denying a conversation took place is not necessary. For it to be harassment the attention must be unwanted. Further, the accuser must not have initiated the attention. There are allegations (from friends of the accuser!) that she not only wanted the attention, but she explicitly SOLICITED it, and bragged prior to going back that she was going to use it in exactly this way. Again, Harry, under exactly WHAT scenario does someone who is being sexually harassed and ESCAPES TO ANOTHER JOB AT A DIFFERENT COMPANY, VOLUNTARILY comes back to not only the same position she held WHILE BEING HARASSED but comes back to the same job with the same boss who was doing the harassing? That's going to be a nearly-impossible sales job to make to ANY jury, and both you and I know it. -- -- Karl Denninger ) Internet Consultant & Kids Rights Activist http://www.denninger.net My home on the net - links to everything I do! http://scubaforum.org Your UNCENSORED place to talk about DIVING! http://www.spamcuda.net SPAM FREE mailboxes - FREE FOR A LIMITED TIME! http://genesis3.blogspot.com Musings Of A Sentient Mind |
Karl Denninger wrote:
In article , Harry Krause wrote: That has nothing to do with whether their complaint has merit. Perhaps you ought to read up some more on the case. O'Reilly isn't denying it...he just is ****ed at how much money the lady wants. Denying a conversation took place is not necessary. For it to be harassment the attention must be unwanted. Further, the accuser must not have initiated the attention. There are allegations (from friends of the accuser!) that she not only wanted the attention, but she explicitly SOLICITED it, and bragged prior to going back that she was going to use it in exactly this way. You're really walking the plank now, Karl. Again, Harry, under exactly WHAT scenario does someone who is being sexually harassed and ESCAPES TO ANOTHER JOB AT A DIFFERENT COMPANY, VOLUNTARILY comes back to not only the same position she held WHILE BEING HARASSED but comes back to the same job with the same boss who was doing the harassing? The woman was assured that O'Reilly had learned his lessons and would behave. That's going to be a nearly-impossible sales job to make to ANY jury, and both you and I know it. -- -- Jesus was the ultimate liberal progressive revolutionary of all history. The conservative religious and social structure that he defied hated and crucified him. They examined His life and did not like what they saw. He aligned himself with the poor and the oppressed. He challenged the religious orthodoxy of his day. He advocated pacifism and loving our enemies. He liberated women and minorities from oppression. He healed on the Sabbath and forgave adulterers and prostitutes. He associated with drunks and other social outcasts. He rebuked the religious right of his day because they embraced the letter of the law instead of the Spirit. He loved sinners and called them to himself. Jesus was the original Liberal. He was a progressive, and he was judged and hated for it. It was the self-righteous religionists that he rebuked and he called them hypocrites. The primary issues of Christian Liberalism were birthed when Jesus spoke the profoundly prophetic words found in Matthew 25: 31-46. These scriptures reveal God's heart for the poor, the sick and other neglected people through out history. Christians should read this text and judge for themselves which of the two groups mentioned there more accurately reflect the political parties of today. His Liberalism lives on today and the issues have not changed much. |
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 21:35:07 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:
The DRUDGE REPORT has obtained O'Reilly accuser Andrea Mackris' financial records which show a combined debt of nearly $100,000! Who cares? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Damn. If she's "living way beyond her means", then *I'm* in deep ****. $100k in debt? That's it? I'm in the hock for about a million-five. You must be among "the rich" that everyone in politics is always talking about. :-) No one else could owe that much - who would lend it? |
Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 21:35:07 GMT, "NOYB" wrote: The DRUDGE REPORT has obtained O'Reilly accuser Andrea Mackris' financial records which show a combined debt of nearly $100,000! Who cares? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Damn. If she's "living way beyond her means", then *I'm* in deep ****. $100k in debt? That's it? I'm in the hock for about a million-five. You must be among "the rich" that everyone in politics is always talking about. :-) No one else could owe that much - who would lend it? Maybe he had to repeat dental school a few times... -- Jesus was the ultimate liberal progressive revolutionary of all history. The conservative religious and social structure that he defied hated and crucified him. They examined His life and did not like what they saw. He aligned himself with the poor and the oppressed. He challenged the religious orthodoxy of his day. He advocated pacifism and loving our enemies. He liberated women and minorities from oppression. He healed on the Sabbath and forgave adulterers and prostitutes. He associated with drunks and other social outcasts. He rebuked the religious right of his day because they embraced the letter of the law instead of the Spirit. He loved sinners and called them to himself. Jesus was the original Liberal. He was a progressive, and he was judged and hated for it. It was the self-righteous religionists that he rebuked and he called them hypocrites. The primary issues of Christian Liberalism were birthed when Jesus spoke the profoundly prophetic words found in Matthew 25: 31-46. These scriptures reveal God's heart for the poor, the sick and other neglected people through out history. Christians should read this text and judge for themselves which of the two groups mentioned there more accurately reflect the political parties of today. His Liberalism lives on today and the issues have not changed much. |
Harry Krause wrote:
Maybe he had to repeat dental school a few times... Gotta admit Harry, that one was good for sprayed keyboard. LOL Eisboch |
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 20:34:20 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 21:35:07 GMT, "NOYB" wrote: The DRUDGE REPORT has obtained O'Reilly accuser Andrea Mackris' financial records which show a combined debt of nearly $100,000! Who cares? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Damn. If she's "living way beyond her means", then *I'm* in deep ****. $100k in debt? That's it? I'm in the hock for about a million-five. You must be among "the rich" that everyone in politics is always talking about. :-) No one else could owe that much - who would lend it? You would be surprised. We sold our house up on Webster Lake this summer for mumbelmumbletyillion and with less than 5% down, the couple got a "jumbo" mortgage in about the same time as a regular mortgage. Neither one of them were great shakes in the wages department - he was a wage/contract attorney for an insurance company and she was a paralegal with a local attorney. People are betting that in the long run, they will win the inflation lottery. The broker told us that, while not common, they aren't all the uncommon either. Later, Tom ----------- "Angling may be said to be so like the mathematics that it can never be fully learnt..." Izaak Walton "The Compleat Angler", 1653 |
Eisboch wrote:
Harry Krause wrote: Maybe he had to repeat dental school a few times... Gotta admit Harry, that one was good for sprayed keyboard. LOL Eisboch Well, it's about $10,000 to $40,000 a year or so for a place like Tufts. -- Jesus was the ultimate liberal progressive revolutionary of all history. The conservative religious and social structure that he defied hated and crucified him. They examined His life and did not like what they saw. He aligned himself with the poor and the oppressed. He challenged the religious orthodoxy of his day. He advocated pacifism and loving our enemies. He liberated women and minorities from oppression. He healed on the Sabbath and forgave adulterers and prostitutes. He associated with drunks and other social outcasts. He rebuked the religious right of his day because they embraced the letter of the law instead of the Spirit. He loved sinners and called them to himself. Jesus was the original Liberal. He was a progressive, and he was judged and hated for it. It was the self-righteous religionists that he rebuked and he called them hypocrites. The primary issues of Christian Liberalism were birthed when Jesus spoke the profoundly prophetic words found in Matthew 25: 31-46. These scriptures reveal God's heart for the poor, the sick and other neglected people through out history. Christians should read this text and judge for themselves which of the two groups mentioned there more accurately reflect the political parties of today. His Liberalism lives on today and the issues have not changed much. |
In article , Harry Krause wrote: Karl Denninger wrote: In article , Harry Krause wrote: That has nothing to do with whether their complaint has merit. Perhaps you ought to read up some more on the case. O'Reilly isn't denying it...he just is ****ed at how much money the lady wants. Denying a conversation took place is not necessary. For it to be harassment the attention must be unwanted. Further, the accuser must not have initiated the attention. There are allegations (from friends of the accuser!) that she not only wanted the attention, but she explicitly SOLICITED it, and bragged prior to going back that she was going to use it in exactly this way. You're really walking the plank now, Karl. Again, Harry, under exactly WHAT scenario does someone who is being sexually harassed and ESCAPES TO ANOTHER JOB AT A DIFFERENT COMPANY, VOLUNTARILY comes back to not only the same position she held WHILE BEING HARASSED but comes back to the same job with the same boss who was doing the harassing? The woman was assured that O'Reilly had learned his lessons and would behave. Yeah, right. So says she. If he can produce the friend who allegedly claims that she was madly in lust with him, and subsequent to her stint at CNN claimed that she was going to go back and destroy him by extorting him with these claims her case collapses. Just watch the fireworks - O'Reilly has already asked for a show cause on discovery of any (if there are any) tapes - if she's got 'em, she better pray to God that she didn't make any in a two-party consent state, or she goes to prison for wiretapping statute violations as well (those be felonies, my friend, one per recording.) I don't care for O'Reilly, but this one smells like extortion to me. Kinda like if Lewinsky had sued the President alleging that the BJs she gave him were "harassment"! -- -- Karl Denninger ) Internet Consultant & Kids Rights Activist http://www.denninger.net My home on the net - links to everything I do! http://scubaforum.org Your UNCENSORED place to talk about DIVING! http://www.spamcuda.net SPAM FREE mailboxes - FREE FOR A LIMITED TIME! http://genesis3.blogspot.com Musings Of A Sentient Mind |
In article , Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 20:34:20 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 21:35:07 GMT, "NOYB" wrote: The DRUDGE REPORT has obtained O'Reilly accuser Andrea Mackris' financial records which show a combined debt of nearly $100,000! Who cares? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Damn. If she's "living way beyond her means", then *I'm* in deep ****. $100k in debt? That's it? I'm in the hock for about a million-five. You must be among "the rich" that everyone in politics is always talking about. :-) No one else could owe that much - who would lend it? You would be surprised. We sold our house up on Webster Lake this summer for mumbelmumbletyillion and with less than 5% down, the couple got a "jumbo" mortgage in about the same time as a regular mortgage. Neither one of them were great shakes in the wages department - he was a wage/contract attorney for an insurance company and she was a paralegal with a local attorney. People are betting that in the long run, they will win the inflation lottery. The broker told us that, while not common, they aren't all the uncommon either. Yep. Real estate is driving it. If you can collateralize it, you can get the money. But that's not truly "in hock", because there are assets backing the note(s). If you don't pay, they take the house. Credit card debt is unsecured. But I've seen card issuers do absolutely crazy things, particularly if you shop around to the different issuers and take out as many cards as you can. Its not hard to run up $30k in credit card debt on a $100k salary - the issuers will let you do it, although its suicidal for them since there's not a snowball's chance in hell they will get it all back. I know someone who had income of about $25k who was able to run over $35k in card debt before the issuers caught up with them and it got ugly. And no, they didn't own a house either - they were renting! -- -- Karl Denninger ) Internet Consultant & Kids Rights Activist http://www.denninger.net My home on the net - links to everything I do! http://scubaforum.org Your UNCENSORED place to talk about DIVING! http://www.spamcuda.net SPAM FREE mailboxes - FREE FOR A LIMITED TIME! http://genesis3.blogspot.com Musings Of A Sentient Mind |
Karl Denninger wrote:
In article , Harry Krause wrote: Karl Denninger wrote: In article , Harry Krause wrote: That has nothing to do with whether their complaint has merit. Perhaps you ought to read up some more on the case. O'Reilly isn't denying it...he just is ****ed at how much money the lady wants. Denying a conversation took place is not necessary. For it to be harassment the attention must be unwanted. Further, the accuser must not have initiated the attention. There are allegations (from friends of the accuser!) that she not only wanted the attention, but she explicitly SOLICITED it, and bragged prior to going back that she was going to use it in exactly this way. You're really walking the plank now, Karl. Again, Harry, under exactly WHAT scenario does someone who is being sexually harassed and ESCAPES TO ANOTHER JOB AT A DIFFERENT COMPANY, VOLUNTARILY comes back to not only the same position she held WHILE BEING HARASSED but comes back to the same job with the same boss who was doing the harassing? The woman was assured that O'Reilly had learned his lessons and would behave. Yeah, right. So says she. If he can produce the friend who allegedly claims that she was madly in lust with him, and subsequent to her stint at CNN claimed that she was going to go back and destroy him by extorting him with these claims her case collapses. Just watch the fireworks - O'Reilly has already asked for a show cause on discovery of any (if there are any) tapes - if she's got 'em, she better pray to God that she didn't make any in a two-party consent state, or she goes to prison for wiretapping statute violations as well (those be felonies, my friend, one per recording.) Heheheh. Doubtful. Not with a sexual kink. Which O'Reilly maybe. I don't care for O'Reilly, but this one smells like extortion to me. Kinda like if Lewinsky had sued the President alleging that the BJs she gave him were "harassment"! Yes, well, you have an interesting attitude towards women. -- Jesus was the ultimate liberal progressive revolutionary of all history. The conservative religious and social structure that he defied hated and crucified him. They examined His life and did not like what they saw. He aligned himself with the poor and the oppressed. He challenged the religious orthodoxy of his day. He advocated pacifism and loving our enemies. He liberated women and minorities from oppression. He healed on the Sabbath and forgave adulterers and prostitutes. He associated with drunks and other social outcasts. He rebuked the religious right of his day because they embraced the letter of the law instead of the Spirit. He loved sinners and called them to himself. Jesus was the original Liberal. He was a progressive, and he was judged and hated for it. It was the self-righteous religionists that he rebuked and he called them hypocrites. The primary issues of Christian Liberalism were birthed when Jesus spoke the profoundly prophetic words found in Matthew 25: 31-46. These scriptures reveal God's heart for the poor, the sick and other neglected people through out history. Christians should read this text and judge for themselves which of the two groups mentioned there more accurately reflect the political parties of today. His Liberalism lives on today and the issues have not changed much. |
In article , Harry Krause wrote: Karl Denninger wrote: The woman was assured that O'Reilly had learned his lessons and would behave. Yeah, right. So says she. If he can produce the friend who allegedly claims that she was madly in lust with him, and subsequent to her stint at CNN claimed that she was going to go back and destroy him by extorting him with these claims her case collapses. Just watch the fireworks - O'Reilly has already asked for a show cause on discovery of any (if there are any) tapes - if she's got 'em, she better pray to God that she didn't make any in a two-party consent state, or she goes to prison for wiretapping statute violations as well (those be felonies, my friend, one per recording.) Heheheh. Doubtful. Not with a sexual kink. Which O'Reilly maybe. If she made the tapes in a two-party consent state she's cooked Harry. And let's not forget her email to a friend.... "I'm having a wonderful time here. I love the people. I'm home and I will never leave again." - The accuser in an email to one of her friends just a few days before she filed her suit. Now remember Harry, the suit alleges that the harassment not only went on through her entire first stint at Fox, but re-commeced immediately after she went back to work there. Yet "I'm home and will never leave again" is what she tells one of her friends? Uh huh. Sounds like someone who was being harassed to me. My take on it? Mackris may or may not have been in financial trouble. She may or may not have plotted going back to Fox specifically for the purpose of extortion. But if the "harassment" was in fact initiated by her and was consensual, then her demand for money IS extortion and/or blackmail, and she's got both a civil and potential criminal problem. I don't care for O'Reilly, but this one smells like extortion to me. Kinda like if Lewinsky had sued the President alleging that the BJs she gave him were "harassment"! Yes, well, you have an interesting attitude towards women. I believe that neither man or woman has a right to abuse the other. That includes either attempting to extort money from the other. I can't see how she gets past her own comments to her closest friends, some of whom have apparently turned on her due to her filing this action. Oh well - back to boats - you do have something boating-related to post here, right?. -- -- Karl Denninger ) Internet Consultant & Kids Rights Activist http://www.denninger.net My home on the net - links to everything I do! http://scubaforum.org Your UNCENSORED place to talk about DIVING! http://www.spamcuda.net SPAM FREE mailboxes - FREE FOR A LIMITED TIME! http://genesis3.blogspot.com Musings Of A Sentient Mind |
"Karl Denninger" wrote in message news:AhWdd.47444$UA.44405@lakeread08... In article . net, NOYB wrote: The DRUDGE REPORT has obtained O'Reilly accuser Andrea Mackris' financial records which show a combined debt of nearly $100,000! FOXNEWS producer Andrea Mackris, who filed a multimillion dollar sexual harassment suit against top talker O'Reilly earlier this month, has I.O.U's scatted throughout the financial world, records show. Mackris was making $93K a year when she returned to FOXNEWS in 2004 [she earned $69,088 in 2003], but records dated October 18 show she holds $37,578 in credit card debt, and $61,913 in student loans. "It appears Ms. Mackris was living way beyond her means," a source close to the situation told DRUDGE late Thursday. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Damn. If she's "living way beyond her means", then *I'm* in deep ****. $100k in debt? That's it? I'm in the hock for about a million-five. $37k in credit card debt is BIG trouble for someone making $100k a year. At any given point, if you took a snapshot of my credit card debt, it's probably $15-20k. But it's paid off in full every month and I have never--not even once-- paid interest on it. Just stating that she has $37k in credit card debt doesn't tell us if she carries that over from month-to-month, or if she just so happened to make several large purchases right before they checked her financial statement. Hell, she's a producer. It's conceivable that she outlays her expenses every month on a personal card, and then Fox reimburses her. That being said, I think she deserves to lose this suit. If things were so bad when she first left Fox for CNN, then why did she come back for more? And why did she wait to complain until after O'Reilly had already filed a $60 million lawsuit against her for trying to extort him? Her motives were evil and disingenuous from the start. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see it come out that this was a concerted behind-the-scenes plan by those on the Left to discredit a person who they perceive as a threat. |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Karl Denninger wrote: In article . net, NOYB wrote: The DRUDGE REPORT has obtained O'Reilly accuser Andrea Mackris' financial records which show a combined debt of nearly $100,000! FOXNEWS producer Andrea Mackris, who filed a multimillion dollar sexual harassment suit against top talker O'Reilly earlier this month, has I.O.U's scatted throughout the financial world, records show. Mackris was making $93K a year when she returned to FOXNEWS in 2004 [she earned $69,088 in 2003], but records dated October 18 show she holds $37,578 in credit card debt, and $61,913 in student loans. "It appears Ms. Mackris was living way beyond her means," a source close to the situation told DRUDGE late Thursday. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Damn. If she's "living way beyond her means", then *I'm* in deep ****. $100k in debt? That's it? I'm in the hock for about a million-five. $37k in credit card debt is BIG trouble for someone making $100k a year. If that's true and she simply was trying to play an extortion game then she's finished both professionally and personally. If notm then OReilley is. Naw. Rush isn't finished...and he's a druggie. Society draws a distinction between addictions to illicit drugs and addictions to drugs that are legal but obtained illicitly. The problem with believing her, for me, is that she came BACK after the original harassment AND she had a different job. Really? That must be why O'Reilly offered her $2 million to walk away, eh? O'Reilly didn't offer the money. Attorneys for Fox News offered the money. It's sometimes cheaper to make things go away than to fight them in court and in the news. |
"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 21:35:07 GMT, "NOYB" wrote: The DRUDGE REPORT has obtained O'Reilly accuser Andrea Mackris' financial records which show a combined debt of nearly $100,000! Who cares? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Damn. If she's "living way beyond her means", then *I'm* in deep ****. $100k in debt? That's it? I'm in the hock for about a million-five. You must be among "the rich" that everyone in politics is always talking about. :-) No one else could owe that much - who would lend it? shrug That's what I kept asking myself each time they approved another one of my loan apps. |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 21:35:07 GMT, "NOYB" wrote: The DRUDGE REPORT has obtained O'Reilly accuser Andrea Mackris' financial records which show a combined debt of nearly $100,000! Who cares? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Damn. If she's "living way beyond her means", then *I'm* in deep ****. $100k in debt? That's it? I'm in the hock for about a million-five. You must be among "the rich" that everyone in politics is always talking about. :-) No one else could owe that much - who would lend it? Maybe he had to repeat dental school a few times... Not if my life depended on it. Our lab was on the ground floor, and clinics were on the third floor. It was a game among the instructors to have us run up and down the stairs as many times as possible while the poor patient sat there wondering if his/her student dentist just quit school and went home. |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: Harry Krause wrote: Maybe he had to repeat dental school a few times... Gotta admit Harry, that one was good for sprayed keyboard. LOL Eisboch Well, it's about $10,000 to $40,000 a year or so for a place like Tufts. My dental school ran about $15000/yr for in-state tuition, plus books and supplies. Of course, I also needed money for living expenses...and I borrowed some extra to float me for the 4 1/2 months that I couldn't practice after graduation while I was waiting for my board results. I graduated with just a bit over $105,000 in school debt. The total figure that I mentioned is (from highest to lowest): house, business loan, school loan, car loans (2), business line of credit, and miscellaneous same-as-cash deals for 3 A/C's, 2 x-ray units, and a server that I had to buy this year. The school loan is locked at 7% over 30 years, and you can't consolidate at a lower rate once you've already done it once. The only other loan that has an interest rate over 5% right now is the damn business purchase loan that I got in 1999. I got that one with no co-signer for 100% of the purchase price of the practice...but the only way the lender would agree to no co-signer was if they could lock me in with a steep early-payoff penalty for the first 7 years of the 10 year note. |
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 20:34:20 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 21:35:07 GMT, "NOYB" wrote: The DRUDGE REPORT has obtained O'Reilly accuser Andrea Mackris' financial records which show a combined debt of nearly $100,000! Who cares? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Damn. If she's "living way beyond her means", then *I'm* in deep ****. $100k in debt? That's it? I'm in the hock for about a million-five. You must be among "the rich" that everyone in politics is always talking about. :-) No one else could owe that much - who would lend it? You would be surprised. We sold our house up on Webster Lake this summer for mumbelmumbletyillion and with less than 5% down, the couple got a "jumbo" mortgage in about the same time as a regular mortgage. Bought my house in April with 5% down, jumbo mortgage at prime+1/4% (4.25%) locked for 5 years , a second line floating and indexed to prime, no points at closing, and no PMI. The houses appreciate so fast down here (especially on the water), it's a no-risk proposition for the bank. In 2003, the median home price was about $290k in Naples. Early in the year, the median was over $380k. Just a few weeks ago, I read that this Summer, the *median* hit $430k. Next April, if rates are still low, I'm rolling the first and second loans into one conventional 30-year fixed, since by then, I'll have the necessary 20% equity (I already do, but banks don't like to reappraise within one year). I'll then get a second line to do some improvements around the house, and pay-off the school loan so that I can start writing off the $600+ /month interest that I'm currently paying on that loan. Maybe that's why I don't see a problem with the deficit...since I'm operating the same way, but on a micro-miniature scale. Debt is necessary in order to grow. An economy coming out of a recession is no different from a start-up company taking on a lot of up-front debt. |
"Karl Denninger" wrote in message news:od_dd.36189$bk1.12485@fed1read05... In article , Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 20:34:20 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 21:35:07 GMT, "NOYB" wrote: The DRUDGE REPORT has obtained O'Reilly accuser Andrea Mackris' financial records which show a combined debt of nearly $100,000! Who cares? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Damn. If she's "living way beyond her means", then *I'm* in deep ****. $100k in debt? That's it? I'm in the hock for about a million-five. You must be among "the rich" that everyone in politics is always talking about. :-) No one else could owe that much - who would lend it? You would be surprised. We sold our house up on Webster Lake this summer for mumbelmumbletyillion and with less than 5% down, the couple got a "jumbo" mortgage in about the same time as a regular mortgage. Neither one of them were great shakes in the wages department - he was a wage/contract attorney for an insurance company and she was a paralegal with a local attorney. People are betting that in the long run, they will win the inflation lottery. The broker told us that, while not common, they aren't all the uncommon either. Yep. Real estate is driving it. If you can collateralize it, you can get the money. But that's not truly "in hock", because there are assets backing the note(s). If you don't pay, they take the house. More likely, they'll rework the loan to an interest only or negative am loan until you can pay. Credit card debt is unsecured. But I've seen card issuers do absolutely crazy things, particularly if you shop around to the different issuers and take out as many cards as you can. I pay off debt on depreciating assets as rapidly as possible. Credit cards get paid off in full every month. Conversely, on rapidly-appreciating assets (like my house), I see no problem in paying as little principle as possible. Its not hard to run up $30k in credit card debt on a $100k salary - the issuers will let you do it, although its suicidal for them since there's not a snowball's chance in hell they will get it all back. Unless your home appreciates enough to draw a line of credit against it. I know someone who had income of about $25k who was able to run over $35k in card debt before the issuers caught up with them and it got ugly. And no, they didn't own a house either - they were renting! It's crazy. The banks will lend people money on an unsecured item like a credit card, but probably turned that guy down for a secured home loan. |
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The DRUDGE REPORT has obtained O'Reilly accuser Andrea Mackris' financial records which show a combined debt of nearly $100,000! FOXNEWS producer Andrea Mackris, who filed a multimillion dollar sexual harassment suit against top talker O'Reilly earlier this month, has I.O.U's scatted throughout the financial world, records show. Mackris was making $93K a year when she returned to FOXNEWS in 2004 [she earned $69,088 in 2003], but records dated October 18 show she holds $37,578 in a href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=1&k=credit%20card" onmouseover="window.status='credit card'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;"credit card/a debt, and $61,913 in student loans. "It appears Ms. Mackris was living way beyond her means," a source close to the situation told DRUDGE late Thursday. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Damn. If she's "living way beyond her means", then *I'm* in deep ****. $100k in debt? That's it? I'm in the hock for about a million-five. Proud of that? I'm quite proud of the fact that I'm working on being debt free. I don't care for paying interest. I've not had a car payment in five years. I pay double house payments more months out of the year than single payments, paying down the principal. |
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