"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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RGrew176 wrote:
From: (Gould 0738)

And the first World Trade Center bombing took place on Clinton's. So,
he
blew
it too I guess.



Yup. Let's not reelect Clinton, either.








Again, you seem to miss the point. You want to have it both ways.
Anything that
happens with Bush in the chair is his fault but anything that happened
under
the previous administration is not their fault.

Go figure.


Bush refuses to take responsibility for anything. Or even admit he's
made mistakes.

Because he hasn't made any.



Once again, are you kidding or just delusional?


Ok, I believe he made a mistake by underestimating just how partisan,
pig-headed and vicious the Democrats can be in an election year...even
when we're in the middle of a war.


He also underestimated how much kerry would lie in an attempt to get
elected.

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NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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RGrew176 wrote:
From: (Gould 0738)

And the first World Trade Center bombing took place on Clinton's. So,
he
blew
it too I guess.



Yup. Let's not reelect Clinton, either.








Again, you seem to miss the point. You want to have it both ways.
Anything that
happens with Bush in the chair is his fault but anything that happened
under
the previous administration is not their fault.

Go figure.


Bush refuses to take responsibility for anything. Or even admit he's
made mistakes.

Because he hasn't made any.



Once again, are you kidding or just delusional?


Ok, I believe he made a mistake by underestimating just how partisan,
pig-headed and vicious the Democrats can be in an election year...even when
we're in the middle of a war.


BWAHHAAAAA!!! You make a statment like that, and have th audacity to
call Democrats partisan!!!!!!!!!

"Jelle" wrote in message
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Jeff Rigby wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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favor of letting everyone
vote.....I
think that you need to have a vested interest.......i.e. only
property
owners should vote on whether to increase property taxes.

basskisser wrote:
"P. Fritz" wrote in message
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Furthermore, I am not necessarily in

That's a good little Nazi! Make sure that people who are allowed to
vote fit YOUR agenda.....

There needs to be some compromise Harry. People who have been working
all
their lives investing in property as their retirement have been **** on
in
this country. We are exposed to lawyers because our investment is not
in
a 401K or home and we have to carry massive amounts of insurance. Three
times our net worth because we are lawyer bait.

If that is the fault of the gouvernment, go vote for a party that wants to
do something about that. (You can't because your duopoly system makes sure
that both parties are exactly the same and only intend to push the other
party to the extremes.)

I did vote for a party that is TRYING to do something about it. The Limits
on legal liability proposed by Bush if followed thru on the state level will
help. For instance, my wife just rear ended a pickup truck that in turn hit
an old Toyota car. The only damage to the car was a dinted trunk lid. That
woman is suing for $300,000, the limits of my liability. She had
preexisting neck injuries from another accident she had two years ago. So
the MRI shows, they say, additional injuries from this accident. NOT
POSSIBLE, I could have kicked the trunk lid enough to dent it. Did I
mention that the trunk lid was not latched...it was held down by a bungie
cord.


AND we are being taxed to death without fair representation.
tax does not equal representation for a long time, and to my knowledge it
never has in the US.

I have property in three countys and can only vote in one countys local
election.

Do I understand you correctly that because you have more property than
average, you claim you should have more representation? What part of 'one
man one vote' don't you understand? (yup, women have votes too)

How do I insure the other two countys are being run efficently or
honest.
You can't. you can buy property, but you cannot buy democratic rights.
So you would not be in favor of shareholder rights or the declaration of
rights.

I pay taxes for schools and have no children, I pay for county services
on
vacant land, I pay for emergency services and a fire department for
vacant
land.

So could we change the laws to allow me to vote for county offices in
countys where I own property?

No, I would propose a law where the county can disown any property not
owned
by its residents

Wow, a wolf in sheeps clothing. With an attitude like that we would have NO
investment in property. EVERYONE would be renting from the state. Gee we
have that now, I pay and have no rights. Seems like renting to me.

Also, I'd like to see the ballet non-standardized so that at a minimum
people would have to be able to read the name to properly vote. That to
me
is a fair compromise with those who would require a minimum standard to
vote. Otherwise a vote is bought with money or lies. If the voter is
not
bright enough to tell when they are being lied to they most likely can't
read.

Sure, and i suppose it is their own fault that they can't read properly.
Have you ever tought abouth howcome you have so many functional
illiterates
in a country with forced schooling?

Yes I have. Ther is no one simple answer except they don't care. They will
be provided for by the state, no one starves anymore do they?

Your btw, is a thinly veiled attack on the rights of the poor and
disadvantaged. Considering your wealthy status, I can see why you'd want
to
do that. But don't call your country a democracy anymore then, ok?

Wealthy status, I live on what the government considers just above the
poverty level. I have invested in property for the last 30 years for my
retirement. I worked 60 hour weeks for 20 years, now at 53 I work only 50
hours a week.
Attack the poor, I am the poor. Think about my attitude. Everything I have
is exposed to lawyers, I worked for 30 years to have enough to retire on and
it could be taken away in an instant. Everywhere I turn someone wants a
part of it. I have no say in how much they can take or what they do with it
and you attack me. Think about what you are saying...you say I have no
rights, leave if you don't like it. Who is the dictator, the wolf, the
grasshopper who steals the ants larder saved for the winter.

Why do you think the wealthy would want to attack the rights of the poor.
There is obviously a bent in your thought processes that you need to
examine. You must assume that I have money because someone gave it to me.
No one can honestly accumulate money because it's too hard. It is hard. It
takes work and sacrifice. Some people can't imagine this.

I did. I think it is wasted on you, as it will not change your mind. It
just
gives me some munition to laugh about your country when the marching and
razzia's start.

--
onvriendelijke groeten/kind regards,

Jelle