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Jon Smithe October 18th 04 01:04 AM

It would even be better if you could read the scale. He is his approval
ratings without the pretty graph.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Pre...4/bush_ja.html


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:46:08 -0400, thunder
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:42:40 +0000, Jon Smithe wrote:


What I think is funny is the left wingers in here who think I am a Rush
Ditto head who would just vote for whoever the Republican Party tells me
to vote for. ; )



If I were just a little more cynical, I would be thinking the Republican
Party should be telling you to vote for Kerry. Another Bush
administration, has the potential to destroy the Republican Party, a la
Nixon's Watergate. It took Ronald Reagan to re-vitalize the Republicans,
and I don't see any Reagans in the immediate future, Arnold included.

An interesting look at Bush's approval ratings:

http://img69.exs.cx/img69/7638/aprov...lert_chart.gif


Ohhhhhh - pretty.

Later,

Tom




Jon Smithe October 18th 04 01:09 AM

Bush votes with his heart and his convictions, but I think he is too easily
swayed by those around him, and does not have the intellect to understand
the nuances involved.

Kerry might be intelligent, but he is a whore would sell his own mother if
it would get a vote. The fact that Kerry came home and rallied against the
war in VN does not bother me, no one in their right mind thought that we
were going to do anything, but find a face saving way out of it. It was
obvious that NVN was going to overrun SVN from about 1970 on.


"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:50:58 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:42:40 GMT, "Jon Smithe"
wrote:

John,
My problem is trying to decide who sucks worse. To be honest, at his
point,
I think Kerry's as president with a majority republican house and senate
might be the best solution.


~~ snippity snip ~~

I have often thought that way myself, but my problem with Senator
Kerry is a lot deeper that I originally thought. I just can't get
past some issues that really annoy me and have had since his early
days in MA politics.

And I don't like President Bush and what he's done to the educational
system in this country among other things.

What to do - what to do....

Take care.

Tom

"The beatings will stop when morale improves."
E. Teach, 1717


Kerry evokes a very negative visceral reaction in me. Jane Fonda did
too. I really believe that Kerry will say or do anything which he
considers will garner a vote from his audience. I don't believe Bush
is that dishonest.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

There are 10 kinds of people in the world,
those who can do binary and those who can't!




P. Fritz October 18th 04 01:16 AM


"Jon Smithe" wrote in message
news:DQDcd.488385$8_6.409363@attbi_s04...
Bush votes with his heart and his convictions, but I think he is too

easily
swayed by those around him, and does not have the intellect to

understand
the nuances involved.


It is not that he doesn't have the intellect to understand the
nuances,,,,,,he doesn't care about them......as you said he votes with his
heart and convictions.


Kerry might be intelligent, but he is a whore would sell his own mother

if
it would get a vote. The fact that Kerry came home and rallied against

the
war in VN does not bother me, no one in their right mind thought that we
were going to do anything, but find a face saving way out of it. It was
obvious that NVN was going to overrun SVN from about 1970 on.


Kerry is a arrogant socialist liebral that seeks power. Why didn't he
resign his Senate seat to run for prez?




"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:50:58 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:42:40 GMT, "Jon Smithe"
wrote:

John,
My problem is trying to decide who sucks worse. To be honest, at his
point,
I think Kerry's as president with a majority republican house and

senate
might be the best solution.

~~ snippity snip ~~

I have often thought that way myself, but my problem with Senator
Kerry is a lot deeper that I originally thought. I just can't get
past some issues that really annoy me and have had since his early
days in MA politics.

And I don't like President Bush and what he's done to the educational
system in this country among other things.

What to do - what to do....

Take care.

Tom

"The beatings will stop when morale improves."
E. Teach, 1717


Kerry evokes a very negative visceral reaction in me. Jane Fonda did
too. I really believe that Kerry will say or do anything which he
considers will garner a vote from his audience. I don't believe Bush
is that dishonest.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

There are 10 kinds of people in the world,
those who can do binary and those who can't!






Short Wave Sportfishing October 18th 04 01:22 AM

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 00:04:30 GMT, "Jon Smithe"
wrote:

It would even be better if you could read the scale. He is his approval
ratings without the pretty graph.


It would be even better if it was in 3D. You could wear those little
colored glasses and stuff.

Take care.

Tom

"The beatings will stop when morale improves."
E. Teach, 1717


Short Wave Sportfishing October 18th 04 01:23 AM

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 00:09:07 GMT, "Jon Smithe"
wrote:

Bush votes with his heart and his convictions, but I think he is too easily
swayed by those around him, and does not have the intellect to understand
the nuances involved.

Kerry might be intelligent, but he is a whore would sell his own mother if
it would get a vote. The fact that Kerry came home and rallied against the
war in VN does not bother me, no one in their right mind thought that we
were going to do anything, but find a face saving way out of it. It was
obvious that NVN was going to overrun SVN from about 1970 on.


It's more personal than that. One has to do with John Edwards who I
think is as evil a person as ever existed on this planet. The other
has to do with Senator Kerry himself. The third deals with both of
them and their personal moral "convictions".

As to the President and his cohorts - I'm totally disgusted.

Later,

Tom
-----------
"Angling may be said to be so
like the mathematics that it
can never be fully learnt..."

Izaak Walton "The Compleat Angler", 1653

Jon Smithe October 18th 04 01:40 AM


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
It's more personal than that. One has to do with John Edwards who I

think is as evil a person as ever existed on this planet. The other
has to do with Senator Kerry himself. The third deals with both of
them and their personal moral "convictions".


I believe their moral convictions changed depending upon what will either
make them money or get them votes. Kerry jumped on Edwards bandwagon
because he hoped it would get him a few swing states. They really don't
have any personal moral convictions, which is what I meant by "Kerry would
sell his mother if he would help him".




Gould 0738 October 18th 04 04:41 AM

I agree with your dad, but...

I guess I'd rather have the trouble I know than risk the trouble I
don't.


When you're sick with a terminal cancer, that "unknown" drug just may do
wonders.
Unlikely that it would make things worse. :-)



Gould 0738 October 18th 04 04:42 AM

Gould,
Your father is correct, both candidates suck. Bush sucks, but you forgot
that Kerry sucks just as bad.



Reportedly seen on a bumper sticker:

Kerry, '04 He sucks less. :-)

thunder October 18th 04 05:02 AM

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 00:02:42 +0000, Jon Smithe wrote:

It really is bad having such two sad sacks to vote for, and I am concerned
that the extremes of either party are going to be our downfall. Until the
moderates get involved in the primaries and helping by volunteering
extremely early in the primaries, we will continue to get the **** we have
had for the last two elections.

Frick or Frack which one to vote for.


I wouldn't limit that comment to the last two elections. Our candidates
don't seem to be selected, they seem to be appointed. In a country of 250
million, is this the best we can do? But then, in a democracy, we get the
government we deserve.

thunder October 18th 04 06:18 AM

On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:16:06 -0400, P. Fritz wrote:


"Jon Smithe" wrote in message
news:DQDcd.488385$8_6.409363@attbi_s04...
Bush votes with his heart and his convictions, but I think he is too

easily
swayed by those around him, and does not have the intellect to

understand
the nuances involved.


It is not that he doesn't have the intellect to understand the
nuances,,,,,,he doesn't care about them......as you said he votes with his
heart and convictions.


Ah, damn the facts, it's a faith based Presidency based on Bush's
"instincts".

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/101704A.shtml


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