OT--Terrorist behind September 11 strike was trained by Saddam
 

On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:29:07 +0000, NOYB wrote:


The second item contains a report of how Iraqi intelligence, helped
by
"a small team from the al-Qaeda organisation", arranged for an
(unspecified) shipment from Niger to reach Baghdad by way of Libya and
Syria.

Iraqi officials believe this is a reference to the controversial
shipments of uranium ore Iraq acquired from Niger to aid Saddam in his
efforts to develop an atom bomb, although there is no explicit reference
in the document to this.

I think, at least this part, is BS. IMO uranium from Niger has been
totally debunked. An interesting read:

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?031027fa_fact

OT--Terrorist behind September 11 strike was trained by Saddam
 

NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:


Does this link Saddam to 9/11?
(Filed: 12/14/2003)


A document discovered by Iraq's interim government details a

meeting

between the man behind the September 11 attacks and Abu Nidal, the
Palestinian terrorist, at his Baghdad training camp. Con Coughlin

reports.


For anyone attempting to find evidence to justify the war in Iraq,

the

discovery of a document that directly links Mohammed Atta, the al-Qaeda
mastermind of the September 11 attacks, with the Baghdad training camp

of

Abu Nidal, the infamous Palestinian terrorist, appears almost too good

to be

true.


Your answer may be found in the last phrase of the sentence...

"...too good to be true."


Perhaps. However, what *would* it take to convince someone like yourself
that there was a definitive link?



Some Bush-ite from Faux News probably planted the document.



Sure. That's why the reporting of such a document is nowhere to be found on
Fox's website.



May I submit a better question is just how dangerous would it be to
allow that motley bunch of extreme loons from the left to get back into
power??

Harry is just an example of how they will happily bag their own country
& even more happily see citizens & brave soldiers at risk if it furthers
their political aims.

Bush is continuing to do a good job in routing out these terrorists &
as always the US & allied armed men & women are performing
magnificently, with some truly sad loss of life. Again the left seem to
think allied casualties are nothing more than a political opportunity
for them; the average US citizen will use the ballot to meter out it's
punishment to these lefty grubs in it's own good time.

If nothing else Harry serves as a public insight into just how dumb &
sick the left is, so ensuring Bush's second term & a much better chance
that the world economy might still avoid a meltdown.

Good work Harold keep those lies a comin' you sick *******.

K

OT--Terrorist behind September 11 strike was trained by Saddam
 

"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:29:07 +0000, NOYB wrote:


The second item contains a report of how Iraqi intelligence,
helped
by
"a small team from the al-Qaeda organisation", arranged for an
(unspecified) shipment from Niger to reach Baghdad by way of Libya and
Syria.

Iraqi officials believe this is a reference to the controversial
shipments of uranium ore Iraq acquired from Niger to aid Saddam in his
efforts to develop an atom bomb, although there is no explicit reference
in the document to this.

I think, at least this part, is BS. IMO uranium from Niger has been
totally debunked.

Actually, the uranium from Niger report hasn't been totally debunked.
British intelligence stands by its original story. If you remember, it was
CIA employee Valerie Plame's husband, Joseph Wilson, who made the claim that
he could find no evidence of the uranium transfer...and his bias is
evidenced by his maxed out campaign contributions to the Democratic Party
and John Kerry's campaign...and by the anti-war piece he wrote for Nation
magazine in February.

OT--Terrorist behind September 11 strike was trained by Saddam
 

On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:10:52 +0000, NOYB wrote:


"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:29:07 +0000, NOYB wrote:


The second item contains a report of how Iraqi intelligence,
helped
by
"a small team from the al-Qaeda organisation", arranged for an
(unspecified) shipment from Niger to reach Baghdad by way of Libya and
Syria.

Iraqi officials believe this is a reference to the controversial
shipments of uranium ore Iraq acquired from Niger to aid Saddam in his
efforts to develop an atom bomb, although there is no explicit
reference in the document to this.

I think, at least this part, is BS. IMO uranium from Niger has been
totally debunked.

Actually, the uranium from Niger report hasn't been totally debunked.
British intelligence stands by its original story. If you remember, it
was CIA employee Valerie Plame's husband, Joseph Wilson, who made the
claim that he could find no evidence of the uranium transfer...and his
bias is evidenced by his maxed out campaign contributions to the
Democratic Party and John Kerry's campaign...and by the anti-war piece he
wrote for Nation magazine in February.

Read the above. It says Iraq *acquired* uranium from Niger. There is no
evidence of this. The documents that sent Wilson to Niger have been
proven and accepted to be forgeries. What the British claim is
that they have additional information that Iraq *sought* to buy uranium
from Niger. That information is most likely from French intelligence.

http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/...International/

http://www.washtimes.com/world/20030...4149-3172r.htm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/life/thisw...999291,00.html

And again, to put the pieces together:

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?031027fa_fact

OT--Terrorist behind September 11 strike was trained by Saddam
 

"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:10:52 +0000, NOYB wrote:


"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:29:07 +0000, NOYB wrote:


The second item contains a report of how Iraqi intelligence,
helped
by
"a small team from the al-Qaeda organisation", arranged for an
(unspecified) shipment from Niger to reach Baghdad by way of Libya
and
Syria.

Iraqi officials believe this is a reference to the
controversial
shipments of uranium ore Iraq acquired from Niger to aid Saddam in
his
efforts to develop an atom bomb, although there is no explicit
reference in the document to this.

I think, at least this part, is BS. IMO uranium from Niger has been
totally debunked.

Actually, the uranium from Niger report hasn't been totally debunked.
British intelligence stands by its original story. If you remember, it
was CIA employee Valerie Plame's husband, Joseph Wilson, who made the
claim that he could find no evidence of the uranium transfer...and his
bias is evidenced by his maxed out campaign contributions to the
Democratic Party and John Kerry's campaign...and by the anti-war piece
he
wrote for Nation magazine in February.

Read the above. It says Iraq *acquired* uranium from Niger.

No it doesn't. It talks of an "unspecified" shipment from Niger to
Baghdad...which was shipped with the help of al qaeda via Lybia and Syria.


There is no
evidence of this. The documents that sent Wilson to Niger have been
proven and accepted to be forgeries. What the British claim is
that they have additional information that Iraq *sought* to buy uranium
from Niger. That information is most likely from French intelligence.


http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/...e0308/BNPrint/
International/

http://www.washtimes.com/world/20030...4149-3172r.htm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/life/thisw...999291,00.html

And again, to put the pieces together:

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?031027fa_fact

OT--Terrorist behind September 11 strike was trained by Saddam
 

On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:47:16 +0000, NOYB wrote:


"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:10:52 +0000, NOYB wrote:


"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:29:07 +0000, NOYB wrote:


The second item contains a report of how Iraqi intelligence,
helped
by
"a small team from the al-Qaeda organisation", arranged for an
(unspecified) shipment from Niger to reach Baghdad by way of Libya
and
Syria.

Iraqi officials believe this is a reference to the
controversial
shipments of uranium ore Iraq acquired from Niger to aid Saddam in
his
efforts to develop an atom bomb, although there is no explicit
reference in the document to this.

I think, at least this part, is BS. IMO uranium from Niger has been
totally debunked.

Actually, the uranium from Niger report hasn't been totally debunked.
British intelligence stands by its original story. If you remember,
it was CIA employee Valerie Plame's husband, Joseph Wilson, who made
the claim that he could find no evidence of the uranium transfer...and
his bias is evidenced by his maxed out campaign contributions to the
Democratic Party and John Kerry's campaign...and by the anti-war piece
he
wrote for Nation magazine in February.

Read the above. It says Iraq *acquired* uranium from Niger.

No it doesn't. It talks of an "unspecified" shipment from Niger to
Baghdad...which was shipped with the help of al qaeda via Lybia and Syria.

Huh? "Iraqi officials believe this is a reference to the controversial
shipments of uranium ore Iraq acquired from Niger to aid Saddam in his
efforts to develop an atom bomb, although there is no explicit reference
in the document to this."

OT--Terrorist behind September 11 strike was trained by Saddam
 

"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:47:16 +0000, NOYB wrote:


"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:10:52 +0000, NOYB wrote:


"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:29:07 +0000, NOYB wrote:


The second item contains a report of how Iraqi intelligence,
helped
by
"a small team from the al-Qaeda organisation", arranged for an
(unspecified) shipment from Niger to reach Baghdad by way of Libya
and
Syria.

Iraqi officials believe this is a reference to the
controversial
shipments of uranium ore Iraq acquired from Niger to aid Saddam in
his
efforts to develop an atom bomb, although there is no explicit
reference in the document to this.

I think, at least this part, is BS. IMO uranium from Niger has been
totally debunked.

Actually, the uranium from Niger report hasn't been totally debunked.
British intelligence stands by its original story. If you remember,
it was CIA employee Valerie Plame's husband, Joseph Wilson, who made
the claim that he could find no evidence of the uranium
transfer...and
his bias is evidenced by his maxed out campaign contributions to the
Democratic Party and John Kerry's campaign...and by the anti-war
piece
he
wrote for Nation magazine in February.

Read the above. It says Iraq *acquired* uranium from Niger.

No it doesn't. It talks of an "unspecified" shipment from Niger to
Baghdad...which was shipped with the help of al qaeda via Lybia and
Syria.

Huh? "Iraqi officials believe this is a reference to the controversial
shipments of uranium ore Iraq acquired from Niger to aid Saddam in his
efforts to develop an atom bomb, although there is no explicit reference
in the document to this."'

The memo cited in the news report talks of an "unspecified" shipment. The
news report itself says "Iraqi officials believe this is reference to the
controversial shipments of uranium". The original Italian document proved
to be forgery...but MI6 stands by their intel that said that Iraq indeed did
seek uranium. I feel you just can't say for sure that an attempt to
purchase uranium never took place.

OT--Terrorist behind September 11 strike was trained by Saddam
 

"NOYB" wrote in message
...


Nidal is a Palestinian terrorist. Not an Iraqi terrorist.
What does that tell you?

What about the fact that many of the the 9-11 terrorists made Florida
their home and in fact received their training there...

Perhaps we should bomb the crap out of Florida.

Florida is part of the US. You're showing your hatred for our country
once
again.

No, Einstein. He's pointing out that a terrorists place of training does not
automatically assign guilt to that country. If the world ran according to
your logic, then the U.S.A. would be guilty of harboring terrorists. After
all, they *did* learn to fly those planes at flight schools here, not
abroad.

OT--Terrorist behind September 11 strike was trained by Saddam
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message news:3knDb.12069

No, Einstein. He's pointing out that a terrorists place of training does
not
automatically assign guilt to that country. If the world ran according to
your logic, then the U.S.A. would be guilty of harboring terrorists. After
all, they *did* learn to fly those planes at flight schools here, not
abroad.

There's a world of difference between sending people to a flight school as
innocuous individuals under false pretenses, and setting up a paramilitary
training camp with the express approval and financial support of the host
country. You do see that, don't you?

OT--Terrorist behind September 11 strike was trained by Saddam
 

"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
news:3knDb.12069

No, Einstein. He's pointing out that a terrorists place of training does
not
automatically assign guilt to that country. If the world ran according
to
your logic, then the U.S.A. would be guilty of harboring terrorists.
After
all, they *did* learn to fly those planes at flight schools here, not
abroad.

There's a world of difference between sending people to a flight school as
innocuous individuals under false pretenses, and setting up a paramilitary
training camp with the express approval and financial support of the host
country. You do see that, don't you?



Yes. And a meeting between two people in Baghdad doesn't necessarily
constitute a training camp. Or, if it does, then the same thing applies to a
Muslim house of worship in New Jersey, in which case the port authority may
be liable for helping terrorists get from Manhattan to Jersey City
repeatedly.