NOYB wrote:

Samer Saado, an employee at a Damascus flower shop, said he didn't care
about Saddam but felt overwhelming sadness for Iraq and the entire Arab
world.

"What the Americans are doing in Iraq and everywhere else is humiliating.
There's nothing to say we're not next in line," he said.
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In fact, there's everything to say that they *are* next in line...especially
when Saddam spills the beans about the WMD's he shipped there.



1. I doubt Saddam will spill any beans in WMD that will be helpful.

2. If we invade yet another underdeveloped Moslem country for our own
political purposes, the rest of the world will turn against us and there
will be a huge price to pay.

Bush shot his wad in Iraq. He isn't about to go into Syria or, in fact,
any nation that presents a real threat to the United States. Like, say,
North Korea.


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NOYB wrote:

Samer Saado, an employee at a Damascus flower shop, said he didn't care
about Saddam but felt overwhelming sadness for Iraq and the entire Arab
world.

"What the Americans are doing in Iraq and everywhere else is
humiliating.
There's nothing to say we're not next in line," he said.
-------------------------------------------------

In fact, there's everything to say that they *are* next in
line...especially
when Saddam spills the beans about the WMD's he shipped there.



1. I doubt Saddam will spill any beans in WMD that will be helpful.

He'll do anything he can to save his skin.


2. If we invade yet another underdeveloped Moslem country for our own
political purposes,

It wasn't political.

the rest of the world will turn against us

They already had turned against us. Even before 9/11, did you see the type
of anti-US bull**** coming out of the UN? Countries like Lybia and Cuba
were sitting on Human Rights committees and criticizing the US for human
rights violations. Puh-leeze. We've been the World's punching bag ever
since the fall of the SOviet Union.

and there
will be a huge price to pay.

With whom?


Bush shot his wad in Iraq. He isn't about to go into Syria or, in fact,
any nation that presents a real threat to the United States. Like, say,
North Korea.

He'll go into Syria immediately after winning the election...unless, of
course, Saddam can point to the exact location of the WMD's before then.

NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

Samer Saado, an employee at a Damascus flower shop, said he didn't care
about Saddam but felt overwhelming sadness for Iraq and the entire Arab
world.

"What the Americans are doing in Iraq and everywhere else is
humiliating.
There's nothing to say we're not next in line," he said.
-------------------------------------------------

In fact, there's everything to say that they *are* next in
line...especially
when Saddam spills the beans about the WMD's he shipped there.



1. I doubt Saddam will spill any beans in WMD that will be helpful.

He'll do anything he can to save his skin.

Saddam is going to be executed. Period.



2. If we invade yet another underdeveloped Moslem country for our own
political purposes,

It wasn't political.


Of course it was. The incompetent idiot you admire so much, aka The
Smirking Chimp, was dying in the polls. The invasion of Iraq helped him
for a while.



the rest of the world will turn against us

They already had turned against us. Even before 9/11, did you see the type
of anti-US bull**** coming out of the UN? Countries like Lybia and Cuba
were sitting on Human Rights committees and criticizing the US for human
rights violations.

Libya and Cuba are not the rest of the world.



Puh-leeze. We've been the World's punching bag ever
since the fall of the SOviet Union.

and there
will be a huge price to pay.

With whom?

With the Moslems, of course. They don't need a government to back their
terrorist operations. They've already proved they can set up shop right
in your home state.




Bush shot his wad in Iraq. He isn't about to go into Syria or, in fact,
any nation that presents a real threat to the United States. Like, say,
North Korea.

He'll go into Syria immediately after winning the election...unless, of
course, Saddam can point to the exact location of the WMD's before then.

Bush isn't going anywhere. The terrorist bombings restarted in Iraq
right after it was announced that Saddam had been captured. What's Bush
going to do? Walk away from Iraq and into Syria? Puh-lease.


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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

Samer Saado, an employee at a Damascus flower shop, said he didn't
care
about Saddam but felt overwhelming sadness for Iraq and the entire
Arab
world.

"What the Americans are doing in Iraq and everywhere else is
humiliating.
There's nothing to say we're not next in line," he said.
-------------------------------------------------

In fact, there's everything to say that they *are* next in
line...especially
when Saddam spills the beans about the WMD's he shipped there.



1. I doubt Saddam will spill any beans in WMD that will be helpful.

He'll do anything he can to save his skin.

Saddam is going to be executed. Period.



2. If we invade yet another underdeveloped Moslem country for our own
political purposes,

It wasn't political.


Of course it was. The incompetent idiot you admire so much, aka The
Smirking Chimp, was dying in the polls. The invasion of Iraq helped him
for a while.



the rest of the world will turn against us

They already had turned against us. Even before 9/11, did you see the
type
of anti-US bull**** coming out of the UN? Countries like Lybia and Cuba
were sitting on Human Rights committees and criticizing the US for human
rights violations.

Libya and Cuba are not the rest of the world.

You missed the point. The sentiment in the UN was so strongly anti-American,
that two of the World's worst countries on human rights were allowed to sit
on a Human Rights committee that criticized the United Sates.




Puh-leeze. We've been the World's punching bag ever
since the fall of the SOviet Union.

and there
will be a huge price to pay.

With whom?

With the Moslems, of course.

Only the fundamentalist Muslims...and my answer, then, is: "So what." If
you're trying to argue that our presence in the Middle East will give rise
to future terrorists, then you're mistaken. It will not turn a peace-loving
Muslim into a cold-hearted killer. It will only expose the so-called
"moderates" as the "sleeper cells" that they really are.







Bush shot his wad in Iraq. He isn't about to go into Syria or, in fact,
any nation that presents a real threat to the United States. Like, say,
North Korea.

He'll go into Syria immediately after winning the election...unless, of
course, Saddam can point to the exact location of the WMD's before then.

Bush isn't going anywhere.

If the WMD's are in Syria, we're going there. Perhaps sooner than next
November if our intel is 100%. However, he will more likely wait until
after the election.

The terrorist bombings restarted in Iraq
right after it was announced that Saddam had been captured. What's Bush
going to do? Walk away from Iraq and into Syria? Puh-lease.

He won't walk away from Iraq. He'll walk away from trying to police the
cities...and he'll walk away from the manhunt for Saddam. However, our
troops will withdraw from the cities, set up bases along the borders of
Iran, Saudi Arabia, and especially Syria, and be poised to strike Syria on a
moments notice. It's no coincidence that Bush announced economic sanctions
on Syria the same weekend in which Saddam is captured. Damascus should
expect much harsher words and actions in the very near future.

NOYB wrote:


Bush isn't going anywhere.

If the WMD's are in Syria, we're going there. Perhaps sooner than next
November if our intel is 100%. However, he will more likely wait until
after the election.


Puh-lease. Bush can't figure out what he is going to do as "chump of
state" two weeks from now.

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message

The terrorist bombings restarted in Iraq
right after it was announced that Saddam had been captured.

Simply not true, Harry, stop perpetuating this lie. It was determined
rather quickly that what you continuously refer to as terrorist bombing (I
think you also claimed 17 dead a while ago) was in reality gasoline
canisters ignited by stray bullets fired in celebration [an unfortunate
side-effect of this local custom] with no injuries.

John Gaquin wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message

The terrorist bombings restarted in Iraq
right after it was announced that Saddam had been captured.

Simply not true, Harry, stop perpetuating this lie. It was determined
rather quickly that what you continuously refer to as terrorist bombing (I
think you also claimed 17 dead a while ago) was in reality gasoline
canisters ignited by stray bullets fired in celebration [an unfortunate
side-effect of this local custom] with no injuries.




Really?

Hmmm:

Car Bomb Kills At Least 17 Iraqi Police




The Associated Press

December 14, 2003, 6:29 PM EST

KHALDIYAH, Iraq -- A suspected suicide attacker detonated a car bomb
outside an Iraqi police station Sunday near Baghdad, killing at least 17
people and wounding 33 others, hours before the announcement of Saddam
Hussein's capture, the U.S. military said. No Americans were involved.

Also Sunday, an American soldier was killed trying to defuse a roadside
bomb. In the evening, after celebrations in the capital over the news of
Hussein's arrest, three barrels of gasoline mounted on a pickup truck
exploded in central Baghdad. No one was hurt, and it was not clear
whether the explosion was an accident or an attack.

The device that killed the U.S. soldier was placed on a telephone pole
next to the road near al-Haswah, 25 miles south of Baghdad. The soldier,
an explosives disposal specialist, approached the bomb to disarm it when
it exploded.

He was the 452nd soldier to die in Iraq, according to Defense Department
statistics; 313 service members have been killed by hostile action since
the start of the war on March 20.

The car bombing in Khaldiyah, 50 miles west of Baghdad, killed police
officers, city workers and civilian bystanders, U.S. Army Lt. Col. Jeff
Swisher said. No American soldiers were in the area when the bomb
exploded, the military said.

An emergency room administrator at a hospital in the nearby city of
Ramadi put the death toll even higher -- 21 killed and more than 20
wounded. Many victims were Iraqi police officers and workers sweeping
the street outside the district police office, said hospital
administrator Haitham Bahar Taha.

The attack took place after Hussein was arrested near the city of Tikrit
to the north Saturday evening, but before Iraqi and U.S. officials
announced the capture.


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"Harry Krause" wrote in message news:brj276

Really?

Hmmm:

Car Bomb Kills At Least 17 Iraqi Police

Yup. You're right on that one - I missed that story, and thought you were
referring to the explosion in Baghdad. Mea Culpa.

"John Gaquin" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message

The terrorist bombings restarted in Iraq
right after it was announced that Saddam had been captured.

Simply not true, Harry, stop perpetuating this lie. It was determined
rather quickly that what you continuously refer to as terrorist bombing (I
think you also claimed 17 dead a while ago) was in reality gasoline
canisters ignited by stray bullets fired in celebration [an unfortunate
side-effect of this local custom] with no injuries.



How much of an interval does there need to be between Saddam's capture and
the resumption of attacks, in order to prove that his capture was a
non-event, as far as the insurgents are concerned? Or, what is the point of
the "right after" discussion?

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message

...Or, what is the point of
the "right after" discussion?

Now moot. I responded to a Harry post, but with inadequate information re
that event. See above post.