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Don White October 6th 04 09:46 PM

And you thought you bought a 'lemon'
 
Those four subs Britain sucked us into buying keep getting worse.
http://novascotia.cbc.ca/regional/se...coutimi2004100
6

Maybe we should have picked up a couple from the Russians.



Don White October 6th 04 09:49 PM


make that...
http://novascotia.cbc.ca/



NOYB October 6th 04 09:51 PM


"Don White" wrote in message
...
Those four subs Britain sucked us into buying keep getting worse.

http://novascotia.cbc.ca/regional/se...coutimi2004100
6

Maybe we should have picked up a couple from the Russians.


Nawww. Russian troops always had a funny glow about them after getting off
a 6 month stint aboard one of their nuclear subs.




Short Wave Sportfishing October 6th 04 10:03 PM

On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 20:49:20 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


make that...
http://novascotia.cbc.ca/


Why does Canada need a submarine fleet?

Take care.

Tom

"The beatings will stop when morale improves."
E. Teach, 1717


Gary Warner October 6th 04 10:10 PM


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 20:49:20 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


make that...
http://novascotia.cbc.ca/


Why does Canada need a submarine fleet?


Why does the US ??




NOYB October 6th 04 10:45 PM


"Gary Warner" wrote in message
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in

message
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On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 20:49:20 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


make that...
http://novascotia.cbc.ca/


Why does Canada need a submarine fleet?


Why does the US ??


To bomb Nova Scotia.



John Smith October 6th 04 11:16 PM




"Don White" wrote in message
...
Those four subs Britain sucked us into buying keep getting worse.
http://novascotia.cbc.ca/regional/se...coutimi2004100
6

Maybe we should have picked up a couple from the Russians.



Maybe Canada should have been more on top of things, such as technical, QA
and QC specifications as well as acceptance testing.



JimH October 7th 04 12:16 AM


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 18:16:02 -0400, "John Smith"
wrote:


Maybe Canada should have been more on top of things, such as technical, QA
and QC specifications as well as acceptance testing.


Never buy anything british.


Why?



Stanley Barthfarkle October 7th 04 12:57 AM


Why does Canada need a submarine fleet?



So that when the Muslim extremists take control of the Canadian government,
they'll be ready to invade the USA...

:)



Short Wave Sportfishing October 7th 04 01:11 AM

On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 23:57:04 GMT, "Stanley Barthfarkle"
wrote:

Why does Canada need a submarine fleet?


So that when the Muslim extremists take control of the Canadian government,
they'll be ready to invade the USA...


In submarines?

All the best,

Tom
--------------

"What the hell's the deal with this newsgroup...
is there a computer terminal in the day room of
some looney bin somewhere?"

Bilgeman - circa 2004

Wayne.B October 7th 04 01:29 AM

On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 19:16:12 -0400, "JimH" wrote:

Never buy anything british.


Why?


====================================

Lucas: Prince of Darkness

MG: Might Go


Don White October 7th 04 03:55 AM


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 20:49:20 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


make that...
http://novascotia.cbc.ca/


Why does Canada need a submarine fleet?

Take care.

Tom

Enforce fishing regulations, intercept smugglers etc. We do have a long
coastline..east, west and arctic. The US navy encouraged us also. Seems
they wanted to practice their equipment on very quiet diesel/electrics.



Don White October 7th 04 03:58 AM


"NOYB" wrote in message
link.net...

"Gary Warner" wrote in message
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in

message
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On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 20:49:20 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


make that...
http://novascotia.cbc.ca/

Why does Canada need a submarine fleet?


Why does the US ??


To bomb Nova Scotia.


No sir!...Subs required to liberate Florida from the motley crew now runnng
it and turn over to the Cuban people.



Don White October 7th 04 04:01 AM


"John Smith" wrote in message
...



"Don White" wrote in message
...
Those four subs Britain sucked us into buying keep getting worse.

http://novascotia.cbc.ca/regional/se...coutimi2004100
6

Maybe we should have picked up a couple from the Russians.



Maybe Canada should have been more on top of things, such as technical, QA
and QC specifications as well as acceptance testing.

We got suckered by a low ball offer...but now the costs of updating to
Canadian standards are adding up.



Short Wave Sportfishing October 7th 04 11:04 AM

On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 02:55:26 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 20:49:20 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


make that...
http://novascotia.cbc.ca/


Why does Canada need a submarine fleet?

Enforce fishing regulations, intercept smugglers etc. We do have a long
coastline..east, west and arctic. The US navy encouraged us also. Seems
they wanted to practice their equipment on very quiet diesel/electrics.


Ah - now that makes some sense. There are a bunch of those little
critters around.

I'm sorry that one of the crew died, but as I was reading that article
I parsed the Captain's name as Luc Picard. :)

Man, I need to get a life.

Later,

Tom

Short Wave Sportfishing October 7th 04 11:07 AM

On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 20:29:50 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 19:16:12 -0400, "JimH" wrote:

Never buy anything british.


Why?


Lucas: Prince of Darkness

MG: Might Go


Hey, one of my prized collector pieces is a '68 Triumph Trophy 250
motorcycle.

It's never failed to start in almost forty years.

So there.

Neener, neener...

All the best,

Tom
--------------

"What the hell's the deal with this newsgroup...
is there a computer terminal in the day room of
some looney bin somewhere?"

Bilgeman - circa 2004

Short Wave Sportfishing October 7th 04 11:28 AM

On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 02:58:38 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"Gary Warner" wrote in message
...

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in

message
...
On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 20:49:20 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


make that...
http://novascotia.cbc.ca/

Why does Canada need a submarine fleet?


Why does the US ??


To bomb Nova Scotia.


No sir!...Subs required to liberate Florida from the motley crew now runnng
it and turn over to the Cuban people.


The Cubans own Florida de facto anyway - makes sense to me.

Later,

Tom


JimH October 7th 04 12:42 PM


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 19:16:12 -0400, "JimH" wrote:


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 18:16:02 -0400, "John Smith"
wrote:


Maybe Canada should have been more on top of things, such as technical,
QA
and QC specifications as well as acceptance testing.


Never buy anything british.


Why?


You are kidding, right?

An electrical fire. Duh! Look in the dictionary under Lucas and you'll
probably see a picture of *some* sort of vehicle burning.

IMHO, british=poor quality.... and that includes high priced crap like
Rolls Royce .... the last one I rode in squeaked like a buggy and Land
Rover....



That's a pretty broad brush you are using there Gene.

I can list not one but thousands of defects in American made products
resulting in property damager or physical injury. Does one then conclude
that all American products are crap?



JimH October 7th 04 01:13 PM


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 07:42:45 -0400, "JimH" wrote:




That's a pretty broad brush you are using there Gene.

I can list not one but thousands of defects in American made products
resulting in property damager or physical injury. Does one then conclude
that all American products are crap?


Personally, I don't know of any british products I would own. I do own
many American products that have proven to be safe and of good value.

If you wish to conclude that American products are flawed, present an
imminent danger, and are not of good value, I suggest you buy british.

Come to think of it.... I'll bet you could get one hell of a deal on
a Canadian registered, british made, sub lying off the coast of
Ireland.
--



Quick, look up Gene.....the point of my post just flew over your head.



basskisser October 7th 04 02:13 PM

"NOYB" wrote in message hlink.net...
"Gary Warner" wrote in message
...

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in

message
...
On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 20:49:20 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


make that...
http://novascotia.cbc.ca/

Why does Canada need a submarine fleet?


Why does the US ??


To bomb Nova Scotia.


Idiot. If you had your way, you'd bomb everything and everybody that
doesn't have a Bush/Cheney sticker. You know they are traitors, if
they don't have one, right?

Jon Smithe October 7th 04 02:30 PM

NYOB,
How about if you first take out all the liberal wackos in rec.boats? Once
you have purged rec.boats you can then bomb Nova Scotia.

PS while you are at it, bomb the French Canadians also.


"basskisser" wrote in message
om...
"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...
"Gary Warner" wrote in message
...

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in

message
...
On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 20:49:20 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


make that...
http://novascotia.cbc.ca/

Why does Canada need a submarine fleet?


Why does the US ??


To bomb Nova Scotia.


Idiot. If you had your way, you'd bomb everything and everybody that
doesn't have a Bush/Cheney sticker. You know they are traitors, if
they don't have one, right?




JimH October 7th 04 02:39 PM


"Jon Smithe" wrote in message
news:6yb9d.205177$D%.171146@attbi_s51...
NYOB,
How about if you first take out all the liberal wackos in rec.boats? Once
you have purged rec.boats you can then bomb Nova Scotia.

PS while you are at it, bomb the French Canadians also.


Make sure Don White is there when you do it.



Short Wave Sportfishing October 7th 04 02:57 PM

On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 13:30:42 GMT, "Jon Smithe"
wrote:

NYOB,
How about if you first take out all the liberal wackos in rec.boats? Once
you have purged rec.boats you can then bomb Nova Scotia.

PS while you are at it, bomb the French Canadians also.


Why is the song "Blame Canada" running around in my head?

DAMN YOU - DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!!!! :)

Take care.

Tom

"The beatings will stop when morale improves."
E. Teach, 1717

Jon Smithe October 7th 04 03:10 PM

SWS,
Yup, it is all Canada's fault. If we bomb Canada to dust, it will solve all
of our problems.

DAMN CANADIANS!

;)

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 13:30:42 GMT, "Jon Smithe"
wrote:

NYOB,
How about if you first take out all the liberal wackos in rec.boats? Once
you have purged rec.boats you can then bomb Nova Scotia.

PS while you are at it, bomb the French Canadians also.


Why is the song "Blame Canada" running around in my head?

DAMN YOU - DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!!!! :)

Take care.

Tom

"The beatings will stop when morale improves."
E. Teach, 1717




Gould 0738 October 7th 04 04:20 PM

NYOB,
How about if you first take out all the liberal wackos in rec.boats? Once
you have purged rec.boats you can then bomb Nova Scotia.

PS while you are at it, bomb the French Canadians also.


Make sure Don White is there when you do it.



Regular right wing love fest, it is.

JimH October 7th 04 04:48 PM


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
NYOB,
How about if you first take out all the liberal wackos in rec.boats?
Once
you have purged rec.boats you can then bomb Nova Scotia.

PS while you are at it, bomb the French Canadians also.


Make sure Don White is there when you do it.



Regular right wing love fest, it is.


I thought you said you kill filed me Chuck.



Gould 0738 October 7th 04 05:05 PM

I thought you said you kill filed me Chuck.

I think you sneaked in again by adding a "2" to your handle.

I'll just ignore you until you demonstrate an ability to conduct rational
discussions and/or stop tweaking your moniker.

Doug Kanter October 7th 04 05:27 PM


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 19:16:12 -0400, "JimH" wrote:


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 18:16:02 -0400, "John Smith"
wrote:


Maybe Canada should have been more on top of things, such as technical,

QA
and QC specifications as well as acceptance testing.


Never buy anything british.


Why?


You are kidding, right?

An electrical fire. Duh! Look in the dictionary under Lucas and you'll
probably see a picture of *some* sort of vehicle burning.

IMHO, british=poor quality.... and that includes high priced crap like
Rolls Royce .... the last one I rode in squeaked like a buggy and Land
Rover....


At least they make amazing garden tools. There's no such thing as a decent
border spade or fork made in the USA any more.



JimH October 7th 04 05:28 PM


"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
I thought you said you kill filed me Chuck.


I think you sneaked in again by adding a "2" to your handle.

I'll just ignore you until you demonstrate an ability to conduct rational
discussions


Fine with me.

You may want to practice what you preach also. ;-)



Matt Lang October 7th 04 07:19 PM

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in message . ..
On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 20:49:20 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


make that...
http://novascotia.cbc.ca/


Why does Canada need a submarine fleet?


Easy .. after having only spent 1 Billion (so far) on a gun registry
... they realized the tax payer still had money which can be wasted on
something same retarded....

One should put these people who make these decissions IN these subs
and let them sail away ...

Matt

Matt Lang October 7th 04 07:20 PM

"Don White" wrote in message ...
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 20:49:20 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


make that...
http://novascotia.cbc.ca/


Why does Canada need a submarine fleet?

Take care.

Tom

Enforce fishing regulations, intercept smugglers etc. We do have a long
coastline..east, west and arctic. The US navy encouraged us also. Seems
they wanted to practice their equipment on very quiet diesel/electrics.



Those smugglers are probably already scared to death to be chased down
(or should we say "floated down") by these subs! HAHAHAHAHA ;)


Matt

Matt Lang October 7th 04 07:22 PM

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote in message . ..
On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 23:57:04 GMT, "Stanley Barthfarkle"
wrote:

Why does Canada need a submarine fleet?


So that when the Muslim extremists take control of the Canadian government,
they'll be ready to invade the USA...


In submarines?

All the best,


Yes! So, be scared! Be very scared! ;)

And thats fuel efficent DIESEL submarines ! hahahahha
The last one purchased actually currently uses ZERO gph, a new record.

Matt

Don White October 7th 04 07:24 PM


"basskisser" wrote in message
om...

Idiot. If you had your way, you'd bomb everything and everybody that
doesn't have a Bush/Cheney sticker. You know they are traitors, if
they don't have one, right?




Nuke'em NOYB is quite a piece of work. Right now we have four cruise ships,
including the QM2, docked at our downtown. If he bombed us, he'd be killing
thousands of his fellow citizens.



Matt Lang October 7th 04 07:25 PM

"John Smith" wrote in message ...
"Don White" wrote in message
...
Those four subs Britain sucked us into buying keep getting worse.
http://novascotia.cbc.ca/regional/se...coutimi2004100
6

Maybe we should have picked up a couple from the Russians.



Maybe Canada should have been more on top of things, such as technical, QA
and QC specifications as well as acceptance testing.


Or get the hint from the fact that the brits put these lemmons out of
service very quickly...

But be assured that some canadian decission makers have very full bank
acounts now ..


Matt

Matt Lang October 7th 04 07:26 PM

"Don White" wrote in message ...
"John Smith" wrote in message
...



"Don White" wrote in message
...
Those four subs Britain sucked us into buying keep getting worse.

http://novascotia.cbc.ca/regional/se...coutimi2004100
6

Maybe we should have picked up a couple from the Russians.



Maybe Canada should have been more on top of things, such as technical, QA
and QC specifications as well as acceptance testing.

We got suckered by a low ball offer...but now the costs of updating to
Canadian standards are adding up.


I'd say someone pocketed a lot of money for approving that deal ...

and they failed to upgrade to important canadian standards like:

1. Motor runs
2. Doesnt self ignite

Matt

Don White October 7th 04 07:32 PM


"JimH" wrote in message
...

"Jon Smithe" wrote in message
news:6yb9d.205177$D%.171146@attbi_s51...
NYOB,
How about if you first take out all the liberal wackos in rec.boats?

Once
you have purged rec.boats you can then bomb Nova Scotia.

PS while you are at it, bomb the French Canadians also.


Make sure Don White is there when you do it.

Do you think you could find me?? Canada is a lot bigger than Afghanistan
and you still haven't found your quarry there.
I'm feeling pretty safe.



Matt Lang October 7th 04 08:41 PM

"Jon Smithe" wrote in message news:6yb9d.205177$D%.171146@attbi_s51...
NYOB,
How about if you first take out all the liberal wackos in rec.boats? Once
you have purged rec.boats you can then bomb Nova Scotia.

PS while you are at it, bomb the French Canadians also.



Before we get carried away: I was wondering how you "bomb" with a sumbarine ;)

Matt

Matt Lang October 7th 04 08:45 PM

"JimH" wrote in message ...
"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 19:16:12 -0400, "JimH" wrote:


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 18:16:02 -0400, "John Smith"
wrote:


Maybe Canada should have been more on top of things, such as technical,
QA
and QC specifications as well as acceptance testing.


Never buy anything british.


Why?


You are kidding, right?

An electrical fire. Duh! Look in the dictionary under Lucas and you'll
probably see a picture of *some* sort of vehicle burning.

IMHO, british=poor quality.... and that includes high priced crap like
Rolls Royce .... the last one I rode in squeaked like a buggy and Land
Rover....



That's a pretty broad brush you are using there Gene.

I can list not one but thousands of defects in American made products
resulting in property damager or physical injury. Does one then conclude
that all American products are crap?



Well, I for sure would be a little hesitant buying their diesel subs ! ;)

Matt

Matt Lang October 7th 04 08:47 PM

"Don White" wrote in message ...
Those four subs Britain sucked us into buying keep getting worse.
http://novascotia.cbc.ca/regional/se...coutimi2004100
6

Maybe we should have picked up a couple from the Russians.


or have them surveyed before handing over loads of cash ;)

Matt

Doug Kanter October 7th 04 10:04 PM

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 16:27:41 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


At least they make amazing garden tools. There's no such thing as a

decent
border spade or fork made in the USA any more.


Wrong.....


http://www.floriantools.com/Merchant...de=landscaping


http://www.floriantools.com/Merchant...de=landscaping

....for example.


Yeah.....right! Meanwhile, Smith & Hawken has spectacular spades & forks,
made in England, for $50-$60. My ex-wife has the 25 yr old steel versions we
bought together, without a speck of rust or a dent in their ash handles. How
does this Florian outfit get away with $215.00? :-) I think it's because
they're located in Martha Stewart territory.




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