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"You've gone around the country suggesting that there is some
connection. There is not," Edwards said. "And in fact the CIA is now
about to report that the connection between al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein
is tenuous at best."


So is there no connection? Or is there a connection that's "tenuous at
best". Talk about your flip-flops!

IMO, there's enough circumstantial evidence (and quite a bit of hard
evidence) showing a link at least as far back as the end of the first
Persian Gulf War.


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NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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"You've gone around the country suggesting that there is some
connection. There is not," Edwards said. "And in fact the CIA is now
about to report that the connection between al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein
is tenuous at best."


So is there no connection? Or is there a connection that's "tenuous at
best". Talk about your flip-flops!



There's nothing there. More and more Bushfolk are coming out and saying
just that. There's an equivocation here and there to CYA, but there is
nothing there. The Secretary of State has said so, the Secretary of
Defense has said so, the 9-11 Commission has said so, the new CIA report
will just about say so, and Bremer this week said the Bush war strategy
was flawed from the get-go.

It looks as if later today, Bush will once again try to obfuscate his
way out of this bull****.

The debate Friday will bring up what Rummy, Bremer, and the CIA say this
week...and that will NOT help Bush...unless Bush suddenly caves and
'fesses up that he ****ed up...and he won't.

Bush should do better this Friday, performance-wise. While I think Bush
is a crappy speaker and presenter, he isn't as bad as he was in the
first debate, and the questions will be softer and less focused, because
they are coming from ordinary folk.

Friday night will be a Mulligan for Bush. But if the audience Friday
sticks mostly to domestic issues...he may be in real trouble, because he
doesn't have much to say that the man in the street...or in the
audience...will think rings true.




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"...vice president (Cheney), I'm surprised to hear him talk about
records. When he was one of 435 members of the United States House, he
was one of 10 to vote against Head Start, one of four to vote against
banning plastic weapons that can pass through metal detectors. He voted
against the Department of Education. He voted against funding for
Meals on Wheels for seniors. He voted against a holiday for Martin
Luther King. He voted against a resolution calling for the release of
Nelson Mandela in South Africa. It's amazing to hear him criticize
either my record or John Kerry's."

- Senator John Edwards, 10/05/04
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On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 10:12:04 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:



Friday night will be a Mulligan for Bush. But if the audience Friday
sticks mostly to domestic issues...he may be in real trouble, because he
doesn't have much to say that the man in the street...or in the
audience...will think rings true.


It is my understanding the questions will be submitted by the audience,
and selected, by Gibson, just prior to the meeting. The mix is to be
50/50, foreign policy - homeland security, on the one hand, and economic
policy - domestic policy on the other.
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