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NOYB October 7th 04 03:48 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
was one of 10 to vote against Head Start, one of four to vote

against
banning plastic weapons that can pass through metal detectors.

Plastic weapons? Did he really say that? I can't believe that

nonsense
is
still floating around. At least with current technology, a gun

still
needs
metal to surround the round in the chamber, even if the rest of

the
thing is
made of a composite material. Was Edwards referring to plastic

eating
utensils? :-)

The point was the Cheney voted against banning such weapons, not

that
they exist.

jps

OK, but it should be embarrassing to even mention the existence of

such
things. Even the anti-gun lobby doesn't talk about it any more. :-)




It's quite possible to make a handgun out of plastic, and carry a pen
whose barrel also serves as the chamber liner.


Yeah, but:
1) How quickly could you reload after the first shot before someone with

an
attitude (like me) ripped a lunch tray off one of the seats and beat you

to
death with it?

and

B) It's common knowledge that even a large caliber round like a .44

would
not do enough damage to bring down a plane. Even if it could, It would

take
quite an engineering feat to design a plastic thing with a removable

metal
tube that would withstand a powerful round, not to mention the need for

it
to remain intact while being fired.

..oh....and:

III: You'd have to assemble it. Go back to the lunch tray. :-)



You're splitting hairs. The question was whether a plastic gun could be
slipped aboard an airliner. The answer is, yes, since the barrel liner
could be brought aboard as part of a writing pen.

As for "some assembly required," well, there's always sneaking off to
the head.


As for doing it, well, I'll leave that to one of right-wing nutcases who
log on here...terrorism is the bailiwick of the conservatives.


Conservatives are for "legal" guns...not zip guns assembled in airplane
lavoratories.




Harry Krause October 7th 04 05:22 PM

WaIIy wrote:
On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 10:25:13 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

As for doing it, well, I'll leave that to one of right-wing nutcases who
log on here...terrorism is the bailiwick of the conservatives.


Yes and shirking is the bailiwick of the liberals.

If it wasn't for the brave conservatives of the American Revolution, we
would still be speaking english.


Wally, Wally, Wally...in those times, the conservatives supported the
Crown.



--
"...vice president (Cheney), I'm surprised to hear him talk about
records. When he was one of 435 members of the United States House, he
was one of 10 to vote against Head Start, one of four to vote against
banning plastic weapons that can pass through metal detectors. He voted
against the Department of Education. He voted against funding for
Meals on Wheels for seniors. He voted against a holiday for Martin
Luther King. He voted against a resolution calling for the release of
Nelson Mandela in South Africa. It's amazing to hear him criticize
either my record or John Kerry's."

- Senator John Edwards, 10/05/04

Harry Krause October 7th 04 06:28 PM

WaIIy wrote:
On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 12:22:06 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

WaIIy wrote:
On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 10:25:13 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

As for doing it, well, I'll leave that to one of right-wing nutcases who
log on here...terrorism is the bailiwick of the conservatives.

Yes and shirking is the bailiwick of the liberals.

If it wasn't for the brave conservatives of the American Revolution, we
would still be speaking english.


Wally, Wally, Wally...in those times, the conservatives supported the
Crown.


Well, I had a 50/50 chance of getting it right.


Ahhhh...you're planning to stand in for Dubya at the next Council of
Warmongering?

--
"...vice president (Cheney), I'm surprised to hear him talk about
records. When he was one of 435 members of the United States House, he
was one of 10 to vote against Head Start, one of four to vote against
banning plastic weapons that can pass through metal detectors. He voted
against the Department of Education. He voted against funding for
Meals on Wheels for seniors. He voted against a holiday for Martin
Luther King. He voted against a resolution calling for the release of
Nelson Mandela in South Africa. It's amazing to hear him criticize
either my record or John Kerry's."

- Senator John Edwards, 10/05/04

Harry Krause October 7th 04 08:36 PM

WaIIy wrote:
On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 13:28:39 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

WaIIy wrote:
On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 12:22:06 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

WaIIy wrote:
On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 10:25:13 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

As for doing it, well, I'll leave that to one of right-wing nutcases who
log on here...terrorism is the bailiwick of the conservatives.

Yes and shirking is the bailiwick of the liberals.

If it wasn't for the brave conservatives of the American Revolution, we
would still be speaking english.

Wally, Wally, Wally...in those times, the conservatives supported the
Crown.

Well, I had a 50/50 chance of getting it right.


Ahhhh...you're planning to stand in for Dubya at the next Council of
Warmongering?


Yes I am. I'll send you a postcard from Iran.



Better stop on ebay first for a real gasmask (the ones we issue our
troops are one-shot jobbies), and some kevlar armor NOT made by the
lowest bidder...

--
"...vice president (Cheney), I'm surprised to hear him talk about
records. When he was one of 435 members of the United States House, he
was one of 10 to vote against Head Start, one of four to vote against
banning plastic weapons that can pass through metal detectors. He voted
against the Department of Education. He voted against funding for
Meals on Wheels for seniors. He voted against a holiday for Martin
Luther King. He voted against a resolution calling for the release of
Nelson Mandela in South Africa. It's amazing to hear him criticize
either my record or John Kerry's."

- Senator John Edwards, 10/05/04

basskisser October 8th 04 05:28 PM

"NOYB" wrote in message hlink.net...
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
was one of 10 to vote against Head Start, one of four to vote

against
banning plastic weapons that can pass through metal detectors.

Plastic weapons? Did he really say that? I can't believe that

nonsense
is
still floating around. At least with current technology, a gun

still
needs
metal to surround the round in the chamber, even if the rest of

the
thing is
made of a composite material. Was Edwards referring to plastic

eating
utensils? :-)

The point was the Cheney voted against banning such weapons, not

that
they exist.

jps

OK, but it should be embarrassing to even mention the existence of

such
things. Even the anti-gun lobby doesn't talk about it any more. :-)




It's quite possible to make a handgun out of plastic, and carry a pen
whose barrel also serves as the chamber liner.

Yeah, but:
1) How quickly could you reload after the first shot before someone with

an
attitude (like me) ripped a lunch tray off one of the seats and beat you

to
death with it?

and

B) It's common knowledge that even a large caliber round like a .44

would
not do enough damage to bring down a plane. Even if it could, It would

take
quite an engineering feat to design a plastic thing with a removable

metal
tube that would withstand a powerful round, not to mention the need for

it
to remain intact while being fired.

..oh....and:

III: You'd have to assemble it. Go back to the lunch tray. :-)



You're splitting hairs. The question was whether a plastic gun could be
slipped aboard an airliner. The answer is, yes, since the barrel liner
could be brought aboard as part of a writing pen.

As for "some assembly required," well, there's always sneaking off to
the head.


As for doing it, well, I'll leave that to one of right-wing nutcases who
log on here...terrorism is the bailiwick of the conservatives.


Conservatives are for "legal" guns...not zip guns assembled in airplane
lavoratories.


Do you mean like THESE polymer weapons?:

http://www.gunsandammomag.com/ga_han...ymer_progress/


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