Harry Krause wrote:
WaIIy wrote:

On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 00:37:49 -0400, "Gary Warner"
wrote:


Edwards was really classy when he took a shot at Cheney about his
daughter.


You mean, when Edwards complimented the Cheney family for supporting
each other as a family, and for sticking up for the rights of their gay
daughter instead of disowning her or not talking about it, or when
Cheney thanked Edwards for his kind words?


Was it really necessary for Edwards to even introduce the subject of
Cheney's family issues?

Slick cheap shot in my book.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
WaIIy wrote:

On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 00:37:49 -0400, "Gary Warner"
wrote:


Edwards was really classy when he took a shot at Cheney about his
daughter.


You mean, when Edwards complimented the Cheney family for supporting
each other as a family, and for sticking up for the rights of their gay
daughter instead of disowning her or not talking about it, or when
Cheney thanked Edwards for his kind words?


Was it really necessary for Edwards to even introduce the subject of
Cheney's family issues?

Slick cheap shot in my book.

Eisboch

It was appropriate because the moderate brought up the subject of the
the GOP's main wedge issue this fall, trying to ban gay marriage.

--
We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the
son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of
them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and
incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah.

What, me worry?

Was it really necessary for Edwards to even introduce the subject of
Cheney's family issues?

Slick cheap shot in my book.

Eisboch


You may be right.

I hadn't considered the effect such a remark would have on people who consider
homosexuality a vile, deviant, "sin" rather than a biological anomaly.

A liberal hears, "So and so has a lesbian daughter," and to us it sounds like,
"The
Jones family has a kid who is left handed."

Conservatives hear the same remark and perhaps some of them conclude, "The
Jones family must have done a crappy job of raising their kids if one of them
turned out queer. They should have taken them to church more often. How sad to
think that nice young woman is condemned to burn in hell for all eternity."

If Edwards had a malicious intent when he commented on Cheney's daughter and
the support the Cheney family has extended to her, then the comments that it
was a "shot" have some legs.

If a conservative had made that comment, it is more likely that it would have
been malicious than when the same comment is made by a moderate or a liberal.
Goes to frame of reference.

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Was it really necessary for Edwards to even introduce the subject of
Cheney's family issues?

Slick cheap shot in my book.

Eisboch


You may be right.

I hadn't considered the effect such a remark would have on people who
consider
homosexuality a vile, deviant, "sin" rather than a biological anomaly.

A liberal hears, "So and so has a lesbian daughter," and to us it sounds
like,
"The
Jones family has a kid who is left handed."

Conservatives hear the same remark and perhaps some of them conclude, "The
Jones family must have done a crappy job of raising their kids if one of
them
turned out queer. They should have taken them to church more often. How
sad to
think that nice young woman is condemned to burn in hell for all
eternity."

If Edwards had a malicious intent when he commented on Cheney's daughter
and
the support the Cheney family has extended to her, then the comments that
it
was a "shot" have some legs.

If a conservative had made that comment, it is more likely that it would
have
been malicious than when the same comment is made by a moderate or a
liberal.
Goes to frame of reference.




LOL! You are about as non partisan as Dennis Kucinich.

"JimH" wrote in message
...

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Was it really necessary for Edwards to even introduce the subject of
Cheney's family issues?

Slick cheap shot in my book.

Eisboch


You may be right.

I hadn't considered the effect such a remark would have on people who
consider
homosexuality a vile, deviant, "sin" rather than a biological anomaly.

A liberal hears, "So and so has a lesbian daughter," and to us it sounds
like,
"The
Jones family has a kid who is left handed."

Conservatives hear the same remark and perhaps some of them conclude,
"The
Jones family must have done a crappy job of raising their kids if one of
them
turned out queer. They should have taken them to church more often. How
sad to
think that nice young woman is condemned to burn in hell for all
eternity."

If Edwards had a malicious intent when he commented on Cheney's daughter
and
the support the Cheney family has extended to her, then the comments
that
it
was a "shot" have some legs.

If a conservative had made that comment, it is more likely that it would
have
been malicious than when the same comment is made by a moderate or a
liberal.
Goes to frame of reference.




LOL! You are about as non partisan as Dennis Kucinich.

Typical of a liebral.....they are ashamed of themselves.

In article ,
says...


Typical of a liebral.....they are ashamed of themselves.

If you had a brain in your head, you might understand why Americans
should be ashamed of themselves. We hired the village idiot to run the
country.

jps

jps wrote:
In article ,
says...


Typical of a liebral.....they are ashamed of themselves.

If you had a brain in your head, you might understand why Americans
should be ashamed of themselves. We hired the village idiot to run the
country.

jps


There's the rub...he has no brain in his head. The twerp is barely
literate...he probably thinks Dubya speaks English "good."

--
"...vice president (Cheney), I'm surprised to hear him talk about
records. When he was one of 435 members of the United States House, he
was one of 10 to vote against Head Start, one of four to vote against
banning plastic weapons that can pass through metal detectors. He voted
against the Department of Education. He voted against funding for
Meals on Wheels for seniors. He voted against a holiday for Martin
Luther King. He voted against a resolution calling for the release of
Nelson Mandela in South Africa. It's amazing to hear him criticize
either my record or John Kerry's."

- Senator John Edwards, 10/05/04

jps wrote:

We hired the village idiot to run the country.

When did b'asskisser become president?

-- Charlie

In article ,
says...


jps wrote:

We hired the village idiot to run the country.

When did b'asskisser become president?

-- Charlie

There's more than one village in the country. Are you running this
year?

Charles wrote in message ...
jps wrote:

We hired the village idiot to run the country.

When did b'asskisser become president?

-- Charlie

Are you trying to make a point, or just being stupid, as usual?