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....for catching Saddam. I hope the guy spent the last 8 months in various 8
foot holes...'cause it'll prepare him for the next several months before he
is shot.

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NOYB wrote:
...for catching Saddam. I hope the guy spent the last 8 months in various 8
foot holes...'cause it'll prepare him for the next several months before he
is shot.



Indeed, but in reality, BFD.

The United States military hasn't won a war against a notable adversary
since 1945, and in *that* war, we were engaged with our allies in
efforts to rid the world of dictatorships and military machines that
came close to taking over the world. We fought to a draw in Korea, we
had out butts handed to us in Vietnam, and, since then, we've used our
might correctly and incorrectly in a series of little bitty wars against
fifth-rate powers. Like Iraq.

It is a minor victory, and I mean minor, for our forces to have captured
Saddam alive so he can be put on trial.

After his capture was announced, there was a car bomb explosion in Iraq
that killed 17 people, or so I heard on the news.

So, as soon as you get over the five point bump in the polls that this
will give Bush (and a bump in the polls was all Iraq ever was about),
ask yourself these questions:

1. Is the US safer from terrorist attacks now than it was yesterday?
If so, what proof have you to offer?

2. Where are the WMD that Iraq has or had?

3. Where is the proof of a direct, serious connection between Saddam and
Osama in terms of 9-11?

4. Is the Middle East any more safer or rational today?

5. Will hostilities cease in Iraq?

6. Should we expect a retaliatory strike from the Moslem world on US soil?


Hundreds of thousands of soldiers and seven months to find one man.

I can't help recall reading of some of the heroic events of WW II, in
which our troops, along with the troops of many other nations,
liberated, at great cost, entire nations, and were greeted in the
streets of the cities by huge crowds planting flowers and kisses on them.

Now, what have we? We captured Saddam Hussein.

Now what?








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On my TV they show Iraqi's dancing in the streets all over Iraq.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
...for catching Saddam. I hope the guy spent the last 8 months in
various 8
foot holes...'cause it'll prepare him for the next several months before
he
is shot.



Indeed, but in reality, BFD.

The United States military hasn't won a war against a notable adversary
since 1945, and in *that* war, we were engaged with our allies in
efforts to rid the world of dictatorships and military machines that
came close to taking over the world. We fought to a draw in Korea, we
had out butts handed to us in Vietnam, and, since then, we've used our
might correctly and incorrectly in a series of little bitty wars against
fifth-rate powers. Like Iraq.

It is a minor victory, and I mean minor, for our forces to have captured
Saddam alive so he can be put on trial.

After his capture was announced, there was a car bomb explosion in Iraq
that killed 17 people, or so I heard on the news.

So, as soon as you get over the five point bump in the polls that this
will give Bush (and a bump in the polls was all Iraq ever was about),
ask yourself these questions:

1. Is the US safer from terrorist attacks now than it was yesterday?
If so, what proof have you to offer?

2. Where are the WMD that Iraq has or had?

3. Where is the proof of a direct, serious connection between Saddam and
Osama in terms of 9-11?

4. Is the Middle East any more safer or rational today?

5. Will hostilities cease in Iraq?

6. Should we expect a retaliatory strike from the Moslem world on US soil?


Hundreds of thousands of soldiers and seven months to find one man.

I can't help recall reading of some of the heroic events of WW II, in
which our troops, along with the troops of many other nations,
liberated, at great cost, entire nations, and were greeted in the
streets of the cities by huge crowds planting flowers and kisses on them.

Now, what have we? We captured Saddam Hussein.

Now what?








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On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 11:20:06 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

NOYB wrote:
...for catching Saddam. I hope the guy spent the last 8 months in various 8
foot holes...'cause it'll prepare him for the next several months before he
is shot.



Indeed, but in reality, BFD.

The United States military hasn't won a war against a notable adversary
since 1945, and in *that* war, we were engaged with our allies in
efforts to rid the world of dictatorships and military machines that
came close to taking over the world. We fought to a draw in Korea, we
had out butts handed to us in Vietnam, and, since then, we've used our
might correctly and incorrectly in a series of little bitty wars against
fifth-rate powers. Like Iraq.

It is a minor victory, and I mean minor, for our forces to have captured
Saddam alive so he can be put on trial.

After his capture was announced, there was a car bomb explosion in Iraq
that killed 17 people, or so I heard on the news.

So, as soon as you get over the five point bump in the polls that this
will give Bush (and a bump in the polls was all Iraq ever was about),
ask yourself these questions:

1. Is the US safer from terrorist attacks now than it was yesterday?
If so, what proof have you to offer?

Absolutely. Saddam has been captured. What proof do you have to the contrary?


2. Where are the WMD that Iraq has or had?

Still under ground, in a neighboring country, or destroyed.

3. Where is the proof of a direct, serious connection between Saddam and
Osama in terms of 9-11?

No more needed.

4. Is the Middle East any more safer or rational today?

Yes.

5. Will hostilities cease in Iraq?

Probably not. But they haven't ceased in Ohio either.

6. Should we expect a retaliatory strike from the Moslem world on US soil?

We should be prepared, within reason, for a strike.


Hundreds of thousands of soldiers and seven months to find one man.

So what?

I can't help recall reading of some of the heroic events of WW II, in
which our troops, along with the troops of many other nations,
liberated, at great cost, entire nations, and were greeted in the
streets of the cities by huge crowds planting flowers and kisses on them.

Now, what have we? We captured Saddam Hussein.

Now what?

Now we see what happens, Harry. You will continue to frantically search for
anything negative about the USA that you can find. You will then blame it on
Bush.

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

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On my TV they show Iraqi's dancing in the streets all over Iraq.

Callin out, across the sand
Are you ready for a brand new beat?
Saddam's caught and the time is right
For dancin in the street

They're dancin down in Baghdad
and in old Takrit
Don't forget the Kuwait City
All we need are soldiers, soldiers,
There are soldiers everywhere
Better damn well dance
While we've got the chance
For Faux US TV.

It doesn't matter what you wear
But you better get out there.....

(This brief musical interlude sponsored by Halliburton Corp. We now return you
to our regularly scheduled double handful of disaster) :-)

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Whoa there! That maybe the way things are done out in the Everglades....but
in the 'real world' a trial will be included somewhere in your senario.

NOYB wrote in message
m...
...for catching Saddam. I hope the guy spent the last 8 months in various
8
foot holes...'cause it'll prepare him for the next several months before
he
is shot.

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JohnH wrote:


Now we see what happens, Harry. You will continue to frantically search for
anything negative about the USA that you can find. You will then blame it on
Bush.

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

I think the USA is a great county, and I don't for a moment confuse the
greatness of the USA with the political garbage now in control of it.
Hopefully we will survive Bush and the rest of the neoCon trash.


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Are you suggesting that the Iraqi's are not pleased that SH has been
captured? CNN feels that it is a "monumental day in history", is it because
they are paid off by Halliburton Corp?

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
On my TV they show Iraqi's dancing in the streets all over Iraq.

Callin out, across the sand
Are you ready for a brand new beat?
Saddam's caught and the time is right
For dancin in the street

They're dancin down in Baghdad
and in old Takrit
Don't forget the Kuwait City
All we need are soldiers, soldiers,
There are soldiers everywhere
Better damn well dance
While we've got the chance
For Faux US TV.

It doesn't matter what you wear
But you better get out there.....

(This brief musical interlude sponsored by Halliburton Corp. We now return
you
to our regularly scheduled double handful of disaster) :-)

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Are you suggesting that the Iraqi's are not pleased that SH has been
captured? CNN feels that it is a "monumental day in history", is it because
they are paid off by Halliburton Corp?

I suspect that most Iraqi's are very pleased that Saddam Hussein has been
captured.
My satiricial jab was in response to "dancing in the street". People behave
differently in front of TV camears and large numbers of heavily armed soldiers.
They aim to please.

Good thing SH is gone. But when watching the dancers, don't forget that the
jubilant crowd around the statue toppling last spring was later revealed to be
a staged-for-TV event.

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On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 17:11:14 +0000, Jack Meholf wrote:

Are you suggesting that the Iraqi's are not pleased that SH has been
captured? CNN feels that it is a "monumental day in history", is it
because they are paid off by Halliburton Corp?

Are you suggesting that *all* Iraqis are pleased that SH has been
captured? It's great that he has been captured, but there is still a long
road ahead.

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"thunder" wrote in message
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On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 17:11:14 +0000, Jack Meholf wrote:

Are you suggesting that the Iraqi's are not pleased that SH has been
captured? CNN feels that it is a "monumental day in history", is it
because they are paid off by Halliburton Corp?

Are you suggesting that *all* Iraqis are pleased that SH has been
captured? It's great that he has been captured, but there is still a long
road ahead.

Isn't it interesting? When CNN shows footage of a soldier who represents our
worst, laughing about what a gas it was to shoot someone, the Bush Borg crew
assumes it's staged or constructed. When CNN shows footage of people dancing
in the streets, the same Borg assume that it's accurate and totally
representative of the entire reality in Iraq.

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On 14 Dec 2003 17:00:19 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

On my TV they show Iraqi's dancing in the streets all over Iraq.

Callin out, across the sand
Are you ready for a brand new beat?
Saddam's caught and the time is right
For dancin in the street

They're dancin down in Baghdad
and in old Takrit
Don't forget the Kuwait City
All we need are soldiers, soldiers,
There are soldiers everywhere
Better damn well dance
While we've got the chance
For Faux US TV.

It doesn't matter what you wear
But you better get out there.....

(This brief musical interlude sponsored by Halliburton Corp. We now return you
to our regularly scheduled double handful of disaster) :-)

Ainl't it a bitch when something good happens! Damn, I hope the Dow goes up
another thousand points in the next few months. Y'all will be crying your poor
eyeballs out!

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

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Yeah, we'll give the guilty ******* a fair trial and then shoot him!

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Whoa there! That maybe the way things are done out in the
Everglades....but
in the 'real world' a trial will be included somewhere in your senario.

NOYB wrote in message
m...
...for catching Saddam. I hope the guy spent the last 8 months in
various
8
foot holes...'cause it'll prepare him for the next several months before
he
is shot.

OT--Congratulations to the 4th ID
 

Yeah, we'll give the guilty ******* a fair trial and then shoot him!


Shooting is way too easy. I say we just turn him over to the Kurds and let them
handle it. I'm sure they have something more biblical (Koranical?) in mind.
Saddam being killed by the infidel doesn't do anything for our relations with
Islam. This is and always was an Islamic problem. It's time we backed away and
let things take their natural course.
Maybe we should put his nuts in a vice for a few weeks until he rats out all
his other cronies and tells us about the WMDs but a live kicking and screaming
Saddam should be publically handed over to Islamic authorities and we drive off
smiling, knowing we did the right thing.

OT--Congratulations to the 4th ID
 

Ainl't it a bitch when something good happens! Damn, I hope the Dow goes up
another thousand points in the next few months. Y'all will be crying your
poor
eyeballs out!

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD


???????????

What the heck does the capture of Saddam Hussein have to do with the Dow going
up or down? It's been going up pretty nicely, lately, and SH wasn't caught
until this morning.

You righties sure get things confused.

I heard a RW talk show host today suggest that "Democrats should get down on
their knees and beg the forgiveness of our men and women in the military!"
Really? How 'bout the Democrats *in* the military? Who are they supoosed to
apolgize to- and for what?

Saddam Hussein hasn't h ad effective control in Iraq since last spring. I'm
very glad he's been captured- but it is tough to imagine how that is going to
change very much.

And good news for you, John. You guys couldn't show the WMD existed. You
couldn;'t show how Iraq's nuclear weapons program existed. You couldn't show
how an imminent threat to the US existed. But, congratulations.....there can no
longer be any doubt that Saddam Hussein existed. :-)

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"Greg" wrote in message
...

This is and always was an Islamic problem. It's time we backed away and
let things take their natural course.

When's the last time to saw an ad for a video game, and it said "Thrill as
you crush enemies by letting things take their natural course!" The game
doesn't exist, therefore George Bush has no frame of reference for such
tactics.

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"Jack Meholf" wrote in message news:SQ0Db.390652$ao4.1290141@attbi_s51...
Are you suggesting that the Iraqi's are not pleased that SH has been
captured? CNN feels that it is a "monumental day in history", is it because
they are paid off by Halliburton Corp?

I believe that they are quite pleased, at least SOME OF THEM, that
Saddam is gone. I also believe that they are quite displeased with the
fact that BushCo is occupying their country, and trying to tell them
what god to pray to, etc., etc. It's a damned shame that the
conservatives can't seem to grasp that their are cultural differences
in this world, and it isn't up to the U.S. to make every country bow
to God and Rush.