Bush vs. Saddam
 

On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:24:45 -0800, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...

"jps" wrote in message

You've got to work on your ranting skills. I'd like you to quote from my
post where I said killing Iraqi kids was OK. My only point in the whole
thread is that these people are known to have planted shields in the past,
and that fact impacts on their credibility in the present. Nothing in that
premise condones the killing of kids.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
news:9N2Cb.7842

..... News reports of dead children -
those must be in my imagination.

Not at all, the report are real, and tragic. What is under-reported is
the fact that the target terrorists were successfully hit, target
venues were vetted in advance as clear of civilians, attack pilots saw
no children in the target area (in the one case that involved an open
field), and that the "placement" of civilian casualties is commonplace
in that part of the world, since they know full well that CNN will run
the story over and over and over. Ex post facto reports of civilian
casualties must of necessity be looked upon with a jaundiced eye.

I think my rantings are well-placed. You attempted to decrement the
validity of Doug's complaint of dead children by citing the fact that
these vermin use children as shields.

My point is: we would treat a perp who's thought responsible for
violence or murder in the states as hostile and ready for death by any
SWAT team. We would never consider taking him out if we knew he was
surrounded by kids.

If the kids are brown and half-way around the world it just doesn't
matter as much.

So much for our moral superiority.

Key words, jps, "...if we knew..."

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

Bush vs. Saddam
 

"jps" wrote in message

....We would never consider taking him out if we knew he was
surrounded by kids.

And I believe the same principle applies in Iraq. If we know.

Bush vs. Saddam
 

On 13 Dec 2003 07:00:38 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

JohnH wrote in message . ..

Basskisser, we all agree that you think and write as well as you can. We
understand.

Can you oppose, with accuracy, the above statement?

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

Who is "we"? Have you had meetings or something to come up with the
above? Now,anything of any intelligence to interject?

The 'we' includes all who do not disagree with my post. Do you disagree with it?

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

Bush vs. Saddam
 

In article ,
88 says...

Key words, jps, "...if we knew..."

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

We knew, how do you think we targeted the bomb?

It's a choice more easily made halfway around the world when the kids
are progeny of the "enemy" we're trying to "liberate."

There was complete outrage when we did the same thing to Randy Weaver
and the freak in Waco.

There's no outrage when they're brown.

Bush vs. Saddam
 

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 12:31:25 -0800, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...

Key words, jps, "...if we knew..."

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

We knew, how do you think we targeted the bomb?

It's a choice more easily made halfway around the world when the kids
are progeny of the "enemy" we're trying to "liberate."

There was complete outrage when we did the same thing to Randy Weaver
and the freak in Waco.

There's no outrage when they're brown.

Are you stating that we knew we were about to bomb children? You do, of course,
have some back up for this statement. Or is this simply your opinion of the
armed forces of this country?

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

Bush vs. Saddam
 

In article ,
88 says...
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 12:31:25 -0800, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...

Key words, jps, "...if we knew..."

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

We knew, how do you think we targeted the bomb?

It's a choice more easily made halfway around the world when the kids
are progeny of the "enemy" we're trying to "liberate."

There was complete outrage when we did the same thing to Randy Weaver
and the freak in Waco.

There's no outrage when they're brown.

Are you stating that we knew we were about to bomb children? You do, of course,
have some back up for this statement. Or is this simply your opinion of the
armed forces of this country?

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

The report I heard said they had specifically sighted him and the
location was phoned in for either an air strike or another form of
precision attack.

If a target walks into a house and you have no idea what's in the house
besides the target, is it okay just to bomb?

jps

Bush vs. Saddam
 

Yes

"jps" wrote in message
...
In article ,
88 says...
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 12:31:25 -0800, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...

Key words, jps, "...if we knew..."

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

We knew, how do you think we targeted the bomb?

It's a choice more easily made halfway around the world when the kids
are progeny of the "enemy" we're trying to "liberate."

There was complete outrage when we did the same thing to Randy Weaver
and the freak in Waco.

There's no outrage when they're brown.

Are you stating that we knew we were about to bomb children? You do, of
course,
have some back up for this statement. Or is this simply your opinion of
the
armed forces of this country?

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

The report I heard said they had specifically sighted him and the
location was phoned in for either an air strike or another form of
precision attack.

If a target walks into a house and you have no idea what's in the house
besides the target, is it okay just to bomb?

jps

Bush vs. Saddam
 

"jps" wrote in message
...
In article ,
88 says...
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 12:31:25 -0800, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...

Key words, jps, "...if we knew..."

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

We knew, how do you think we targeted the bomb?

It's a choice more easily made halfway around the world when the kids
are progeny of the "enemy" we're trying to "liberate."

There was complete outrage when we did the same thing to Randy Weaver
and the freak in Waco.

There's no outrage when they're brown.

Are you stating that we knew we were about to bomb children? You do, of
course,
have some back up for this statement. Or is this simply your opinion of
the
armed forces of this country?

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

The report I heard said they had specifically sighted him and the
location was phoned in for either an air strike or another form of
precision attack.

If a target walks into a house and you have no idea what's in the house
besides the target, is it okay just to bomb?

Absolutely...in the same way that I think it's appropriate to shoot down a
hijacked airliner if it can be determined the hijackers are planning to
kamikaze the plane into a densely populated target.

Bush vs. Saddam
 

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 14:43:29 -0800, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 12:31:25 -0800, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...

Key words, jps, "...if we knew..."

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

We knew, how do you think we targeted the bomb?

It's a choice more easily made halfway around the world when the kids
are progeny of the "enemy" we're trying to "liberate."

There was complete outrage when we did the same thing to Randy Weaver
and the freak in Waco.

There's no outrage when they're brown.

Are you stating that we knew we were about to bomb children? You do, of course,
have some back up for this statement. Or is this simply your opinion of the
armed forces of this country?

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

The report I heard said they had specifically sighted him and the
location was phoned in for either an air strike or another form of
precision attack.

If a target walks into a house and you have no idea what's in the house
besides the target, is it okay just to bomb?

jps

This situation is much different from that of our purposely bombing children,
which is what you have been implying. You, thunder, and Harry -- birds of a
feather...!

John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

Bush vs. Saddam
 

On 16 Dec 2003 03:52:09 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

(Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ...
On 13 Dec 2003 07:03:59 -0800, (basskisser) wrote:

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Did I miss anything?

Yes. The neurotransmitters between your axons.
\
Idiot. You've not given one sentence that opposes, with accuracy,
anything in the original post.

You asked for a difference between Saddam and Bush...and I told you that one
difference is that Saddam would kill you if you were an Iraqi and posted
such a question.

If you don't agree with the answer, then offer a rebuttal. In absence of
such, it becomes obvious that when unable to offer a reasonable response,
you simply revert to name-calling.

So,I take it that you haven't read the newest version of the Patriot Act?

Personally, I've read it. But I didn't see in it anywhere that allows
Bush to kill you simply for making your original post to this thread.
If you find such a provision, please point it out. Otherwise we'll just
have to assume that you were being specious with your line above and
really have no legitimate rebuttal.

Oh, you poor person. Here you try to come off on this newsgroup as a
know it all, and then say something that stupid! You want an exact
"provision" in the Patriot Act allowing Bush to kill someone for
writing to a newsgroup? That is just plain stupid, Steve, and you know
it.

Great! You're admitting that you were stupid to mention the Patriot Act
as a rebuttal to the argument that one difference between Bush and
Saddam is that Saddam would kill you if you were an Iraqi and made this
post and Bush wouldn't kill you as an American who made this post.

But, there are many, many provisions for the detention of someone who
is just *thought* to be subversive. Who knows where this detention
could lead.....hmm, kinda like Saddam in Iraq, huh?

The fact that you think it's "kinda like Saddam in Iraq" is proof that
you're a moron who makes stupid posts without understanding a thing
about what you're posting. Your understanding of politics and law is
just as deficient as your understanding of physics and engines has
proven to be.

Steve