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Bush vs. Saddam
"jps" wrote in message Ex post facto reports of civilian casualties must of necessity be looked upon with a jaundiced eye. Whew, that's a pretty sick perspective. What do you think the time limit should be on dead children? We spend thousands of man hours looking for a pretty girl in N. Dakota and don't blink an eye when 9 kids and then another 6 are killed by mistake. It just doesn't matter as much when they're brown, does it? I know it is always convenient for you to try to play a race card in political arguments, thinking you can preempt the moral high ground, but you really ought to be careful. When a miserable little **** makes an insulting and presumptuous statement like yours, you have no idea of the background of the person to whom you're directing your remarks. Suffice it to say that you simply don't know what you're talking about. But that's really not the point of the original post. There have been numerous documented cases in several countries in the mid-east of governments using their own people, including children, as human shields. When these people get killed, news outlets, including American sources, are more than willing to blast the story ad nauseam, with little or no reference to the fact that these people were likely placed in harm's way by their own government, by force. There have been cases in both Iraq wars wherein there were civilian casualties resulting from explosions with which US tactical operations had no connection. In virtually all these cases there was video feed available within minutes from al Jazeera or al Arabiya of injured children being rushed to hospitals, blood soaked, wailing adults, etc. Injuries and deaths very real and very tragic, but no one, including US news sources, asks how the local Arab news crews happened to be in exactly the right spot so quickly, and no one, including US news sources, gives any credence to the US Forces' statements that this was not a result of their operations. History has shown, for the benefit of those who care to pay attention, that these governments and military forces will create their own "collateral damage" for consumption by the ever-gluttonous international news agencies. Anyone who *does not* look upon these reports with at least some initial skepticism is being naive in the extreme. |
Bush vs. Saddam
"K Smith" wrote in message
... Doug Kanter wrote: " Tuuk" wrote in message ... Wow, your out to lunch on all those points. Are you sure you read the newspaper or just looking at the pictures? Well...we are sort of improving our score over the past week, in terms of getting rid of those annoying Iraqi children. Come on you lefties are loony toons!! These people have to take responsibility for themselves, eventually, if they harbour terrorists then they put themselves & their families at risk. So, you're positive that the children killed this week came from families which supported the Taliban? Or, would you like some condiments with your dish of crow? |
Bush vs. Saddam
"basskisser" wrote in message om... "NOYB" wrote in message hlink.net... I think the difference is that if you were an Iraqi living under Saddam, and you posted this, you'd be tortured to death...right after watching 50 guys gang-rape your wife, sister, and daughter. Are you stupid, or just trying to sound that way? You asked "So, it started me to wondering, just what is the difference between the Saddam regime, and the US regime?" And I replied: "I think the difference is that if you were an Iraqi living under Saddam, and you posted this, you'd be tortured to death...right after watching 50 guys gang-rape your wife, sister, and daughter." If there was anything stupid about my response it's that I actually took the time to give a reasonable answer to an absurd rhetorical question. |
Bush vs. Saddam
"basskisser" wrote in message om... "NOYB" wrote in message hlink.net... "basskisser" wrote in message om... Did I miss anything? Yes. The neurotransmitters between your axons. \ Idiot. You've not given one sentence that opposes, with accuracy, anything in the original post. You asked for a difference between Saddam and Bush...and I told you that one difference is that Saddam would kill you if you were an Iraqi and posted such a question. If you don't agree with the answer, then offer a rebuttal. In absence of such, it becomes obvious that when unable to offer a reasonable response, you simply revert to name-calling. |
"Adolph" Bush
And don't forget how much safer all those Iraqis feel right now after we
came along and took care of all those evil-doers. It sort of reminds me how safe I feel now that I read that Osama bin Laden has us right where he wants us, especially now that every Muslim in the world hates us now. That Bush guy is so great that a lot of folks around here are starting to call him "Adolph" and his entourage is referred to as "the Fourth Reich." Think about it, invading other countries without cause for the sole reason of advancing our own economic greed. No, I haven't forgotten weapons of mass destruction. Did we ever find those? And for those of you who are sure they are over there, you need to call in those GPS coordinates to our troops over there that are looking; they need all the help they can get, especially before election time. And yes, I really am a patriot, a real, live Viet Nam era vet who honorably served in the US Army and came out with a DD214 and an Honorable Discharge, which is more than we can say for all the rest of the chickenhawks in our regime. Except for Colin Powell (and they don't even listen to him) neither Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney or Wolfowitz did anything in the service when they really had a chance to wear the green. No one really even knows where Bush was when he was supposed to be serving, except he lost his flying certification because he didn't show up. He sure isn't talking about it, is he? Here are his impressive qualifications: RESUME of GEORGE W. BUSH EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE LAW ENFORCEMENT: I was arrested in Kennebunkport, Maine in 1976 for driving under the influence of alcohol. I pled guilty, paid a fine, and had my driver’s license suspended for 30 days. My Texas driving record has been “lost” and is not available. MILITARY: I joined the Texas Air National Guard and went AWOL. I refused to take a drug test or answer any questions about my drug use. By joining the Texas Air National Guard, I was able to avoid combat duty in Vietnam. COLLEGE: I graduated from Yale University. I was a cheerleader. PAST WORK EXPERIENCE: I ran for U.S. Congress and lost. I began my career in the oil business in Midland, Texas in 1975. I bought an oil company, but couldn’t find any oil in Texas. The company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock. I bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using taxpayer money. With the help of my father and our friends in the oil industry (including ENRON CEO Ken Lay), I was elected Governor of Texas. ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS GOVERNOR: I changed Texas pollution laws to favor power and oil companies, making Texas the most polluted state in the Union. During my tenure, Houston replaced Los Angeles as the most smog-ridden city in America. I cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas treasury to the tune of billions in borrowed money. I set the record for the most executions by any Governor in American history. With the help of my brother, the Governor of Florida, and my father’s appointments to the Supreme Court, I became President after losing by over 500,000 votes. ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT: I invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing cost of over one billion dollars per week. I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the U.S. Treasury. I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in U.S. history. I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period. I set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the U.S. stock market. I am the first president in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record. I set the all-time record for most days on vacation in any one-year period. After taking-off the entire month of August, I presided over the worst security failure in U.S. history. I am supporting development of a nuclear “Tactical Bunker Buster,” a WMD. In my State Of The Union Address, I lied about our reasons for attacking Iraq, and then blamed the lies on our British friends. I set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips by a U.S. president. In my first year in office over 2-million Americans lost their jobs and that trend continues every month. I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period. I appointed more convicted criminals to my administration than any president in U.S. history. I set the record for the least amount of press conferences than any president since the advent of television. I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was revealed. I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history. I have cut health care benefits for war veterans and support a cut in duty benefits for active duty troops and their families—in wartime. I have set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously protest me in public venues (15 million people) shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind. I’ve broken more international treaties than any president in U.S. history. I’m proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in U.S. history. My “poorest millionaire,” Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her. I am the first president in U.S. history to order an unprovoked, pre-emptive attack and the military occupation of a sovereign nation. I did so against the will of the United Nations, the majority of U.S. citizens, and the world community. I created the Ministry of Homeland Security, the largest bureaucracy in the history of the United States government. I am the first president in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission. I withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of Law. I refused to allow inspectors access to U.S. prisoners of war “detainees”) and thereby have refused to abide by the Geneva Convention. I am the first president in history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. election). I am the all-time U.S. and world record-holder for receiving the most corporate campaign donations. My largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one of my best friends, Kenneth Lay, presided over the largest corporate bankruptcy fraud in U.S. history. My political party used the Enron private jets and corporate attorneys to assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court during my election decision. I have protected my friends at Enron and Halliburton against investigation or prosecution. More time and money was spent investigating the Monica Lewinsky affair than has been spent investigating one of the biggest corporate rip-offs in history. I garnered the most sympathy for the U.S. after the World Trade Center attacks and less than a year later made the U.S. the most hated country in the world, the largest failure of diplomacy in world history. I am first president in history to have a majority of Europeans (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and security. I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts. I have so far failed to fulfill my pledge to bring Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein to justice. RECORDS AND REFERENCES: All records of my tenure as Governor of Texas are now in my father’s library, sealed, and unavailable for public view. All records of SEC investigations into my insider trading and my bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view. All records or minutes from meetings that I, or my Vice-President, attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review. Please consider my experience when voting in 2004 - |
Bush vs. Saddam
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ...
"K Smith" wrote in message ... Doug Kanter wrote: " Tuuk" wrote in message ... Wow, your out to lunch on all those points. Are you sure you read the newspaper or just looking at the pictures? Well...we are sort of improving our score over the past week, in terms of getting rid of those annoying Iraqi children. Come on you lefties are loony toons!! These people have to take responsibility for themselves, eventually, if they harbour terrorists then they put themselves & their families at risk. So, you're positive that the children killed this week came from families which supported the Taliban? Or, would you like some condiments with your dish of crow? Is that a side dish to go along those tasty dead children? There is nothing quite as satisfying as dropping cluster bombs on small childen. They do squeal so. |
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Bush vs. Saddam
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:27:34 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message . com... "NOYB" wrote in message thlink.net... I think the difference is that if you were an Iraqi living under Saddam, and you posted this, you'd be tortured to death...right after watching 50 guys gang-rape your wife, sister, and daughter. Are you stupid, or just trying to sound that way? You asked "So, it started me to wondering, just what is the difference between the Saddam regime, and the US regime?" And I replied: "I think the difference is that if you were an Iraqi living under Saddam, and you posted this, you'd be tortured to death...right after watching 50 guys gang-rape your wife, sister, and daughter." If there was anything stupid about my response it's that I actually took the time to give a reasonable answer to an absurd rhetorical question. Which wasn't understood by basskisser, the self-appraised 'thinker'. John On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD |
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